From: Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Fw: Re: Re: voting patterns in the gambia
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, 8 October, 2008, 6:22 PM

--- On Wed, 8/10/08, Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Re: voting patterns in the gambia To: "Mo Baldeh" <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wednesday, 8 October, 2008, 6:12 PM Mo   I don't agree !!!   The Opposition in URD made sure no seat was unopposed.. Buba had to be nominated because he rejoined PPP at a time when all their candidates were already selected for the elections.  As a result, Sir Dawda had to make him an NOMINATED MP  in pursuance to the 1970 Constitution   By the way, I am really enjoying the deabte on this topic. The 1987 General Elections brings back some fond memories. Only God knows how PPP were able to win 30 seats out of a total of 36 seats.  --- On Wed, 8/10/08, Mo Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Mo Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Re: voting patterns in the gambia To: [log in to unmask] Date: Wednesday, 8 October, 2008, 5:48 PM Point taken, Sanusi. Let's say that in 1987, he got nominated by the PPP as their candidate and went unopposed. Thanks. Mo. From: Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wednesday, October 8, 2008 12:37:56 PM Subject: Fw: Re: voting patterns in the gambia --- On Wed, 8/10/08, Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: voting patterns in the gambia To: "Mo Baldeh" <[log in to unmask]> Date: Wednesday, 8 October, 2008, 5:36 PM Mr Baldeh   Point of order!!    Buba never contested for the Jimara Constituency during the 1987 General Elections. What actually happen is this: Following Ousainou Baldeh 's defeat from Omar Sey in the Basse Bye-Elections, Buba made swift application of rejoining PPP with the sole aim of "destroying" the newly informed GPP . As a result of  Buba's successful contribution in destroying GPP's power base in the URD region  he was rewarded with being NOMINATED as MP by President Jawara.   --- On Wed, 8/10/08, Mo Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Mo Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: voting patterns in the gambia To: [log in to unmask] Date: Wednesday, 8 October, 2008, 4:09 AM Hi Suntou, It seems you may have misunderstood my posting. In 1982, Buba did not contest in Jimara but in Basse against Kebba Krubally.  He did eventually contest and win the seat in Jimara in the 1987 and 1992 parliamentary elections.  M.C. Jallow was the MP for Jimara and not for Toumana, as you stated below. Additionally, Kebba Krubally resided in Basse and not in Kabakama. Thanks, Mo. ----- Original Message ---- From: SUNTOU TOURAY <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Tuesday, October 7, 2008 6:09:18 AM Subject: Re: voting patterns in the gambia Thanks Mo for that clarifications. I wasn't aware that Buba was a protest candidate. Indeed in this current era, there are many such candidates standing in elections. just like Buba, most of this candidates would still go back to their original party of choice instead of joining alternative parties like PDOIS or UDP. I was very young during the 1982 elections, but since it was AK who partly brought me up in Banjul and then Bakau, i was in the know about some few things. The point Haruna is emphasising is also valid, that is multi-lingualism. one has to respect Buba for that, i was told few days ago by a man from basse who knew both Buba and Kebba Krubally very well. he said that, Buba during the 1982 election campaign use to visit Kebba Krubally his rival in Jimara at his Kabakanma residence, take off his shoes as a mark of respect and give him both hands. Buba's courtesy to Mr Krubally was so high, he baffled most of his loyal supporters. that his how diplomatic Buba was. i like him. he indeed made some big mistakes by playing the big piper to make Yahya acceptable to elders in the second republic. Buba's Dad Micheal Baldeh was also a good politician. The other points you stated Mo is also noteworthy. Tumana where Jallow Veterinary use to contest is a heavily Jahanka/Mandingo strong hold, yet the late Jallow Veterinary (RIP) a delightful personality, speaks fluent fula, mandinka like i have never heard in my life. he was the MP for that area. and also the GPP uncle Hasan Musa Camara. i know him very well. he use to vist us in my uncle's home in Mansajang. A true politician and a good speaker. he too won elections in Toumana. MC cham too won elections in Toumana. this spirit of PPP's politics was fascinating. The Basse/Mansajang contingent were wining elections in Toumana and Jimara area. They are not natives of those areas and also the tribal barrier was not an issue for the educated fula candidates. it has to be noted that all the candidates express themselves in the language of their electorates. This is quiet unique for us from URD. That is one reason i like basse. Buba with some of his weakness is my favourite crowd pleaser. Retire humbly Buba wherever you are. Time permiting, the election pattern in the kombos will be narrated. the candidature of Banjul's famous Badara Njie in the heart of kombo will looked into. --- On Mon, 6/10/08, Mo Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Mo Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: voting patterns in the gambia To: [log in to unmask] Date: Monday, 6 October, 2008, 9:56 PM Hi Suntou,   I think you may have mixed up some of your details in your recent article on  parliamentary elections during Jawara's era. You may note that Buba Baldeh contested against Kebba Krubally in 1982. The independent candidates of '82 were actually 'rebel' PPP militants whose tickets had been turned down by their party leadership, despite the over-whelming support they had received from their respective constituencies.  We saw a repeat of that political blunder in the last parliamentary elections when the APRC rejected more popular candidates and instead went for individuals who had not received the reqruired support from their constituents. Despite threats of dismissal from the party, most of these rejected candidates rebelled against their leadership and ran on an independent ticket.  Thus, the APRC ended up losing some seats to this 'soft' opposition. Subsequent to Buba's dismissal from parliament, his uncle Ousainou Baldeh contested for the seat under the NCP against Omar Sey, who was virtually a novice in the Basse political scene. The bye-elections were fiercely contested and regardless of all the pomp and inducements by the PPP, the results were pretty close.  When the polls closed on 31 December 1985, Omar Sey had won by 51 votes! Under the PPP, candidates could contest in any constituency once they got endorsed by their local committees. These 'mercenary' MPs did not necessarily have to reside in or originate from the constituencies they represented in the House. For instance, Assan Musa Camara hails from Mansajang but he represented Kantora; M.C. Cham is from Basse but was the MP for Tumana; and before he got succeeded by Buba Baldeh, M.C. Jallow had been sitting for Jimara at the legislature. For more details on the 1987 elections, I will refer you to one of Swaibou Touray's serialised articles on the political history of The Gambia as published in the Foroyaa issue of 27 August 2007. http://www.foroyaa.gm/modules/news/article.php?storyid=331   Thank you and keep up the political analysis! Momodou Baldeh. ----- Original Message ---- From: SUNTOU TOURAY <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Saturday, October 4, 2008 2:40:00 AM Subject: Re: voting patterns in the gambia Pa Musa was big personality and a great figure head. I was very young during the 1982 elections. but since AK Touray my Dad's younger brother contesting against Pa Musa, even us kids were in the know of events. Sandu being a cocktail of Fula, Sarahuleh, mandinka, Jahanka and Jola, politics was enjoyable at best. i can remember the stories about Pateh Sambaru, a key figure in sandu. politics even today is communal, but certain folks make leaders, this the mandinkas would call kandalu. a kanda is someone with a firm voice, who can sway public opinion. jawara's politics was more on that line. he utilises authoritative voices. Pa musa being famous and having statue that is difficult to ignore, his rivals were ever so determine to get rid of him by any means necessary. the sarahulehs wanted a representation, one of them to be their voice, eyes, hands and everything. the politics became punctuated by a language divide. my grand father was then the cheif, who passed away, so the cheiftency moved back to Diabuku. the sarahulehs wanted to be the chiefs and the MP. the Drammehs so to speak. Batapa won the earlier 1977 election. Pa musa lost. the voting pattern indicate langaue alliance, this is a powerful tool. but then sadly for Batapa, he was mad soon after the results where decleared. Haruna, many accussations started flying arround. the talk was that Pa musa made Batapa mad. how absoud! but this was believable as there was no other explanations your Dad's rivals could advance. your grand dad was a also a key player in Sandou. his islamic education and leading of islamic affairs made folks respect him a lot.. so stop messing about. Any way, whatever made Batapa crazy was unclear. a bye-election return Pa musa back to representing Sandou. then came the 1982 elections. a unique elections. where young blood clash with old school. the susas, the tamadins, the fula music groups, the mandinkas drumers. Hear Buba Baldeh was starting out in politics. remember that Buba's Dad was also a monumental figure in basse's politics and community. the fulas would do anything for his dad. but Buba knew unseating Omar Sey wouldn't be an easy task. he opted for Jimara another strong fula stronghold. he won that election more than convincinly. Buba being the great speaker he is, campaigned with AK Touray on an independent ticket. the issues was that sarahulesh wanted Pa musa out at all cost but the superstition of Batapa was still in folks memory. No one among them wanted to take on Pa Musa. he was feared for no reason at all. Then comes my step- dad then a court cleark. He was approached to challenge Pa musa which he did without any hesitation. to cut a long story short, Ak took most of the sarahuleh votes couple with some his other supporters. he won easily. the graceful thing is, Pa musa knew when to call it quit. he retired from contesting elections and assume diplomatic duties. he was a good son of sandou and we pray that Allah grant him Jannah. amen. I hope this short narrative helps. suntou. --- On Fri, 3/10/08, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: voting patterns in the gambia To: [log in to unmask] Date: Friday, 3 October, 2008, 5:06 PM Suntou,   Thank you for the political memories of my late father. I often hear stories of his political expeditions although I was too young or more focused on school to appreciate those dynamics. If anyone can, yourself, Hon. Hamat Bah, Buba Baldeh, Alhajie Touray, BaaTappa, Alajie Mpamara, Chief Jatta of Wulli, the then Kantora Chief, Ebrima, Sidia Jatta, and the multitudes who narrate untold stories to me to include the people of Sandu, can bear more vividly on it. The stories go far beyond electoral numbers and for me it is personal honour to more comprehensively remember my dear father.   My father's allure includes his careers as a teacher at Armitage in Georgetown and his students who honour me for one reason or the other for being one of his children. I am confident his efforts in teaching and politics had earned him both friends and enemies and I shall be ever proud of him for his singular desire for common prosperity and commoner salvation. If it were not for him, I will not have had the knowledge and discernments in religion, both Islam and Christianity. I have been impressed with his ever-optimistic view of the world before and after Gambia gained independence and he joined the PPP to do the people's business. My father spoke Fula, Sarahule, Mandinka, wollof, and Jola with equal ease. I did not grow up knowing which one of these ethnicities I would more likely belong to. Only that they are the languages of our community of which we are a part. Our ancestral home in Gambia lies between large Sarahule, Mandinka, Fula, and Jola communities. I remmember vividly when folk would share with us that the Darbos are an aberration in Sandu. We have not been exclusively aligned with any ethnicity but we welcomed all ethnicities. The colonial guest house in Sandu was erected behind our ancestral home. I have always wondered how that came to be? Perhaps in honour of our family's sacrifices with the colonial armies overseas. I would like your perspective on our family as I'm sure you are aware. The Tourays are our uncles by way of uncle Sidia and the late honourable chief of Wulli, Kabaa Jatta.    I adore and thank my father for having been my father. I am humbled by the admiration of folk whose lives he had impacted, one way or the other. The common thread in the stories was that he had been positive if unyielding force in the lives he touched. Indeed he has taught us to view his political opponents as our bretheren, only representing an alternative point of view. I therefore look forward, with honourable reminiscence, to your stories of him and from your point of view.   Haruna. MQJGDT. Darbo. Al Mu'Umin.       In a message dated 10/3/2008 2:57:10 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: http://suntoumana.blogspot.com   Thursday, 2 October 2008 Voting patterns in the Gambia The 1992 Election result and total MP party percentage score. THIS IS THE VOTES CAST FOR THE RESPECTIVE PARTY MP $B%F&D!V%F!Vc`TD%c%F!Vc`\D!V (BS. Overall votes percentage of vote The PPP TOTAL VOTES 109,059 54.23% The NCP 48,845 24.29% The GPP 13,937 6.93% The PDP 9,291 4.62% The PDOIS 4,632 2.30% The INDEPENDENTS 15,331 7.62 201,095 100% the total votes for the over all respective party MP's was as usual favourable to the PPP. the strange thing is, even the new party founded by eccentric business man Solo Darboe, The PDP collected more per head mp votes than PDOIS. another significant port of call is the existence of independent candidates in Gambian political land scape. With over 3 parties in our country, why do we still have independent candidates? is this a failure on the part of all our establish political parties? it will be interesting to analyse recent election trends. THE TOTAL PERCENTAGE FOR EACH PARTY LEADER IS HAS FOLLOWS: 1992 election DK JAWARA PPP 117,549 58.48% SHERIFF DIBBA NCP 44,639 22.21% ASSAN MUSA GPP 16,287 8.10% LAMIN BOJANG PDP 11,999 5.97% SEDIA JATTA PDOIS 10,543 5.24% 2O1,017 100% Source: the political history of the Gambia 1816-1994, pages 330-344. Initially my interest was about the voting pattern of my own constituency Sandu. But then it is apparent that there is a need to analyse the number of Gambians voting and their party of choice. It seems to me quiet an overwhelming number of Gambians aren $B%F&D!V%F!Vc`TD%c%F!Vc`\D!V (Bt voting in numbers. If our population is said to be over a million, then two hundred thousand odd voters is too minimal for effective democracy. Now coming to the election history of Sandu, where the honourable Musa S. Darboe dominated until his final retirement from contesting election after losing the 1982 general elections to Alhagie AK Touray. The vote counts for the candidates are: 1982 election Musa S Darboe scored PPP 2,480 Alhagie AK Touray Independent 3,193 Kissima AK Sillah NCP 250 This means AK Touray won the elections with a large margin. Musa Darboe was a heavy weight. Ak Touray did his campaign with the Basse's famous orator Buba Baldeh who contested in Jimara and won as an independent. Buba's fame and mass support was overwhelming, his car is sometimes lifted up by jubilant supporters. I will try to shed some light on the records of the late honourbale Musa S. Darboe's election results for the 1970's. the bye-election he won after Batapa was became insane. musa won the bye-election. more later. 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