Suntou,
 
Don't you see you are focusing on the wrong ideas???? I wanted to tell Yanks this but I thought I'd milk the cow for what its worth and get my idea of local pilgrimages across once again, but wouldn't you know it; nervous nelly wants my dollars not my democracy. They go together Packo. You either take both or neither at all.
 
Let me help you along for a minute as much as we have a more prescient problem in La Guinea than to worry about a friggin Hajj for holy in Saffa:
 
So Yanks shares the problem is the Hajj Tour operator reneged on their responsibility to provide a flight home for the stranded Hajj makers. This means to me the Hajj tour operators were the vrai bandits. And since you have to wait till you get home to tie them up to baobab trees all across Kambia, Yanks now tells us to flip cartwheels over their inability to cope with the Makka bandits who take advantage of their distress to extort D200.00 a day for overstay. And you ask me to send dollars to dinar country so they can continue to afford the extortion. Why??? I can understand if you are raising funds to pay for alternative flights back home, but no, you want them to be able to continue to stay in Makka and Madina against their wishes.
 
I asked you to get in touch with the idiot Hajj minister but because you didn't see green, you brushed it off. You came up with a little know Zakaat fund but you don't seem to be serious about pursuing that. There is an embassy of Gambia in Saudia last I checked and you shared the Hajj is a holy pilgrimmage not a tourist demarche.
 
I can see if you're raising funds for an ad in the Harem newspaper to share their plight but as Ginny would quip, My God, what do you wanna do??????
 
And I know as soon as you get my friggin farthings, you'll be right back to organising to send your loved ones next year to the same Makka and Madina and not Kerewan. What is wrong with you Muslings? Can you not solve simple problems like this among yourselves????
 
We have a real emergency here OK???? La Guinea I mean. I said Yanks sounded like Yoran, but you're friggin Deepak Kalpo. Now where's Satish??? You're all partners in crime. And now you want us to drop everything and play dead with you???? Atakelajang. Ndasimma Nke Tooriya?
 
Haruna.




Date: Sat, 27 Dec 2008 00:14:18 +0000
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Subject: Re: Gambian Pilgrims Near Starvation in Mecca, Please everyone, your help is urgently needed!
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Masoud, stop trying to start world war three. Some of the pilgrims are said to be reselling the items they bought for gift and personal use. This is messy already.
we need your dollar right now not your democratic opinion.
suntou.

--- On Fri, 26/12/08, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Gambian Pilgrims Near Starvation in Mecca, Please everyone, your help is urgently needed!
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Friday, 26 December, 2008, 7:17 PM

Yanks my brother, I find you very amusing. I know Hous is not pleased with me right about now but I hope he will come around some other day, perhaps in asuncion.
 
[Date: Fri, 26 Dec 2008 14:31:35 +0000.. From: [log in to unmask]
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Though, I agree with you that Kerewan might be the affordable solution but i don't think it offers a holy solution and i learned that people go to Mecca for the latter.] Yanks.
 
Yanks, Why do you suppose Makka and Madina came to be regarded as holy? And for whom do you suppose? Remember idaplanes were not available to islam then!!

[Nonetheless, if we chose Kerewan next year, you know the Kiangkas won't attend] Yanks.
 
And why do you think the Jerusalemites, Tibetans, Kashmirites, Copenhagenites, Papua New Guineans, Honolulums, and Falklandites have not been attending the Hajj of Makka and Madina. I say the Kiangkas will have been up to something.
 
[and if it becomes successful. Jammeh will transfer its hosting to Kanilai the following years.] Yanks.
 
It is said my dear brother that immitation is the best form of flattery.
 
[Remember how the Roots Homecoming Festival became a Kanilai event.] Yanks.
 
YES. The idea was to bring the festival closer to the people of fonyi. That they may not get stranded in Kosemar.
 
[And you know a Kanilai Hijjo is definitely not a good idea.] Yanks.
 
I agree. Not for a Kosemarian. Nor is a Makka and Madina Hijjo for a Kerewanite. 

[On a serious note,] Yanks.
 
I am dead serious. What're you talking about????
 
[the plight of the Gambian pilgrims is bit complicated in that the Gambian authorities are reluctant to involve the Saudis or or make them aware of the situation.] Yanks.
 
I hate to break it to you bro but you're sounding like Yoran Van Der Sloot about the Kalpo brothers.
 
[They fear the Saudis might impose tougher restriction on the number of future pilgrims from the Country or institute tougher regimes on the country's ability to send pilgrims to mecca in the coming years.] Yanks.
 
So much for holy Hajj therefore. Wouldn't you say??? If it were holy, whatever that word means, the Saudis would be breaking down our doors to issue visas and free passage to Marwa.
 
[For that reason, the plight of our pilgrims has to be a Gambian affair, until when it is probably too late to call in for the Saudi help.] Yanks.
 
NO NO NOOOOOO! You ain't bringing me into your affairs. Let's just stay with your self-made affair. In pursuit of salvation for holy. 

[We should be reminded that there had been two casualties among the Gambian contigent this year and we don't want this toll to increase.] Yanks.
 
You get too easily excited. The toll won't increase. Don't worry. The Saudis will get wind of it before that happens. And how would you feel treating alien casualties on Saudi soil?? They are somewhat intelligent you know?? Don't worry. Be Happe'
 
[The causes of the two deaths still remain unexpalined.] Yanks.
 
That happens all the time in Gambia. What is to say those casualties would not have occured had they not trekked to Makka in search of holy? Besides, is it not edifying to die in Makka and Madina??? Precisely why some effort to make it there while on their last breaths.
 
[For that reason one needs to be really worried and remain so untill the Pilgrims can return.] Yanks.
 
You are the one that wants to increase the death toll. Far away from Saffa. What good will it do you to worry about Allah's domain?
 
I feel you bro. But I think your worries will be wasted. How about purchasing ad-time on Makka radio to share their plight with the entire Saudi citizenry? You'll get more bang for the buck. Besides Suntou advised there is exactly such a Zakaat fund set aside for such purposes of pilgrim distress. Remember it is the Saudi Tourist industry we're talking about.
 
I'm sorry men. I just don't know how to impress the Kerewan idea on you.
Haruna.

Another worry is that nearly 95% of the pilgrims have no money on them in Saudi, that is the grimness of the plight.  As you have explained Saudis are not really good samaritan people especially to the black africans. That is the reason why we need to help our folks by sending something to feed someone for a day. The pilgrims plight is temporary and will be over once they return home.

Brethren Yanks





Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:58:57 -0500
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I don't talk to the Hajj minister and he doesn't take my calls ever since I threatened we were gonna have our own Hajj in Kerewan. And you went behind my back to send your loved ones to Madina.
 
I'll tell you one thing though, if there's anything to get him to spring into action, it will be the sight of 200 or so illegal Gambians at the souk. Trust me I know these Saudi idiots.
 
Haruna. Sorry men. Consider Kerewan for next year's Hajj. At least we can hitch a ride home from there. No need for idaplanes.




Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 23:13:07 +0000
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Haruna

You need to help us contact the Saudi Hajj Minister.

Suntu
i commend your initiative and you are quite right about the hotels not being charitable organisation. So you can imagine what will happen next, the Gambian pilgrims loitering in the streets of Mecca. May god forbid it.
 
The situation is very distressing. My old man is very old and i don't know how much more emotionally and psychologically he can take.

I can imagine how i will feel being stranded in Saudi for a day, more over a month for a 75 year old man.

I don't think i want to blame anyone yet, i will reserve that for later. For now i want my old man home.

Get in touch Suntu.

Brethren Yanks








Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 22:05:03 +0000
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Yanks, this is serious. The personal expenses is too much for many who have budgeted for a certain known time frame. The hotels in Saudi are private businesses and they will not suddenly turn charitable because Gambian pilgrims are stranded.
The bureaucracy is too much in Saudi for the hajj commission to take prompt action. It seems the private airlines disappointed their customers big time. It said that GIA didn't take part this year, so the fault is completely on private airlines who took up the responsibility.
I on my part will contact a Gambian expatriate friend of mine and see how they can help in alerting the hajj commission who may use the zakah funds to help our brothers and sisters. meanwhile, whatever help anyone can give, Allah will reward you abundantly.
Thanks Yanks. I hope your dad get home safely.
suntou

--- On Thu, 25/12/08, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
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Date: Thursday, 25 December, 2008, 9:40 PM

Settle down men. Have you contacted the Saudi Minister for Hajj for relief? What do I look like sending dollars to dinar country?
 
Take care men. May Allah be with you during Christmas.
Haruna.




Date: Thu, 25 Dec 2008 21:18:24 +0000
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Subject: Gambian Pilgrims Near Starvation in Mecca, Please everyone, your help is urgently needed!
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Brothers and Sisters, Gambians, Non Gambians, Muslims or None Muslims

Your Urgent Help in kindness is needed to rescue the Gambian Pilgrims in Mecca.


I'm just coming from talking to my dad in Mecca, who has just taken part in this year's
pilgrimage.  He explained the dire condition of the Gambian pilgrims in Mecca at present.

In simple terms, the Gambian pilgrims are stranded in Mecca. Their flight agents cannot tell them
when they will be returning home to their love ones. The only news they are getting is that
there is at current no flight arrangement in place to take them home.

The original flight company due to take them back have withdrawn from that arrangement
due to non payment. It is now going beyond five days since the first flight left for Banjul taking the
first batch of pilgrims. There is still a need for 2nd, 3rd, 4th and 5th flights in order to clear the remaining
stranded pilgrims.

However, due to the Christmass holidays in the west, the Gambian consulate in saudi is at currenttly facing difficulty 
in arranging for an alternative flight to return the remaining batches.

In the mean time, the pilgrims are being charged almost 200 Gambian Dalasis per day for their daily sustenance and they  have now been in Saudi for almost 40 days. As result of this prolonged period most pilgrims have no
money to afford their daily meals.

I have sent over £500 (2500 Saudi Dinar) to help my dad and few of his friends. But this is not enough and i can't help every one in there.

For that reason, i implore every one who can assist to help with whatever they can. You do not need to send money to me.
My best advice is that if you know someone in Saudi send the money directly to them through Western Union.

If you have a relative among the pilgrims and wants to contact them, please contact me on the number below and i will get a reliable someone who will assist you in locating them for you, so that you can speak to them and know their plight.

Those who can assist in arranging a flight company please get in touch with the Gambian consulate in Saudi, i don't know
their details as of yet. But i will try to get it.

Those who have influence in the Gambia government must urge the government to do something and do it urgently.

Please pass this message on and give every little help that we can.

Please note that you can get in touch with me on 07920404756.

Yanks Darboe

  




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