Uncle Mathew,
 
Thank you for sharing your thoughts with us here and I respect your right and privilege to yield further understandings.
I have been one of the folks who commented on the points in your notes and have been disquieted by your inordinate
(not improper) focus on Yahya's criminality. I will share with you why I took exception in places.
 
[In a message dated 3/19/2009 6:25:49 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
Hi folks, Mathew wish to respond to some comments regarding his interview.
below is his reaction: S, please post for me. thanks.]
 
I thank our Suntou for forwarding your thoughts to Ellen.
 
[It is unfortunate that of all the issues raised in my interview with Pa Nderry, someone would chose to hightlight the one issue that is most divisive and contentious.]
Indeed Uncle. It is equally unfortunate you must admit, that of all of Yahya's criminality you chose to highlight his intractable tribalism. The other points you raised in the interview
are scarcely contentious. You will admit perhaps that your readers are in agreement with all the other issues and that there could therefore be no contention where there is agreement 
in the main. So naturally, the only points of contention would be highlighted in review.
 
[Surprisingly too, it was found convenient to dismiss my acknowledgement that Jammeh has victimized more Jolas that probably any other tribe, and that Gambian Jolas hate him
just as much as anyone else.] Mathew.
 
I did not dismiss this point of yours. What I share with you is that Yahya's victimization of other, Jola or no Jola, is criminal. Not tribalist. Would you agree? Whether Gambian Jolas hate
Yahya more or just as much as anyone else certifies the proposition that Yahya may not be tribalist. An insiduous criminal maybe, but not tribalist.  
 
[No one is more sensitive to the issues of tribe and its potency than I, but I am one who refuse to let political correctness get in the way objective analysis, even if it hurts a few.] Mathew.
 
Out of courtesy I will grant that your sensitivity to tribalism and its potency is superlative. However, I encourage you to pause and look again at your objective analysis to see if you
can discern the perspective of your "detractors". It should comfort you that none of these "detractors" is known to hang a lantern on political correctness; Bailo, Pa Musa, Haruna. It would therefore be unreasonable for us to requisition political correctness of other. Hell I couldn't save my life if it depended on political correctness.
 
[It is true Gambia's problems are not problems of tribe, but no one will deny that it is the power and sympathy of tribe that is primarily driving Jammeh's agenda now, even if the larger percentage of jammeh enforces are Jolas from Casamance. ] Mathew.
 
Part of Gambia's problems issue from tribal considerations as it is the case in all multi-ethnic nations. The difference is whether Gambia recognises that and is trained toward ameliorating its
negative impacts on National life. Perhaps we cannot see that because one person Yahya Jammeh seems to control National life so. I agree with you that tribal considerations are the achilles'
heel of Yahya's criminality. The larger percentage of those Jammeh enforcers who are Jola are accomplices in Yahya's crimes. I could not discern Yahya or the accomplices being tribalist by
that criminal enterprise. This is not to say that neither Yahya nor those accomplices are not tribalist. They could very well be. BUT NOT by virtue of their criminality. I think Mathew if you are
supremely sensitive to tribalism and its attendant malaise, you will agree with me that what you have shared in your interview and in this defense does not a tribalist make of Yahya.
 
[I don't want to nor would I stoop to Jammeh's level, but I refuse to disregard the fact the 50% of all the ministerial positions are held by Jolas;] Mathew.
 
I commend you Uncle for rising above the gratuitous criminality of Yahya. The fact that 50% of all ministerial positions in Gambia  are held by Jolas does not a tribalist make of Yahya. Besides
those Jola ministers may be as qualified as any other citizen. And if their citizenship is questionable, then obviously it is criminal of Yahya to appoint them ministers in Gambia. But we have not established that the Jola ministers are not Gambian citizens yet have we?
 
[or that for the past ten years only one Fula has ever been appointed minister; Fatoumata Tambajang, and her term was brief.] Mathew.
 
The fact that only one Fula has ever been appointed minister by Yahya, and to a brief term, is ill-advised, even unconscionable. But that still does not make Yahya a tribalist. That is a matter
of sagacity and proprietary discretion.
 
[But it does not end there. For the past eight years there has only been one Mandinka minister as far as I know.] Mathew.
 
Like the Fula situation above, the Mandinka situation is perhaps ill-advised, even unconscionable, but does not a tribalist make of Yahya.
 
[Additionally, no one will deny that almost everyone in the highest eclehons of bureaucratic power is either from the Fonis, Kombos or the Greater Banjul/Serekunda area. The military, NIA, States Guard and Police are all headed by Jolas, and in governmental institutions where a Jola is not the head, a Jola would occupy one of the most positions in that agency. I guess it is too early to forget the case of the recently disgraced and now indited Lamin Sabi Sanyang, who was more powerful than Dodou Bammy Jagne or every other ambassador he served under. Given the ratio of Jolas to Fulas or mandinkas, what are the chances that they would hold a disproportionate number of higer civil service positions?] Mathew.
 
All these instances you shared above Uncle point more to potential malfeasance and criminality than to the tribalism of Yahya. The questions we ought to be focusing on are Yahya's criminal conduct and the prospective prosecution of that criminality. You will agree with me that if you let a fox guard a hen-house, the chances of decimating your koop are extremely high.
 
[Also, what are the chances of Jolas to Fulas or Mandinkas or provincial residents to those of the Kombos and Greater Banjul/Serekunda.] Mathew.
 
Possibly very high.
 
[I hope no one will insinuate that I am anti Jola, because that would be the hight of falacy. Just ask everyone in Nema Jola Kunda.] Mathew.
 
Uncle, I do not believe you are anti-Jola. However, I understand how another may perceive that, especially a Jola. And it is not a matter of fallacy or fact. It will have been a matter of unfortunate perception. We do not have to ask anyone, certainly not the folk of Nema Jola Kunda to verify your sentiments toward Jolas. They are no more Gambian than ourselves and besides, their acumen in discernments may not be superior to ours.
 
[In the interview, I put forward ideas and challenges we all face as gambians, and at the very least, I would have hoped that what merited real discussion is the way forward in the effort to rid us of Yahya Jammeh. I expect reasonableness and objectivity from all of us. calling me dillusional will not solve our problem, moreover I am not the problem; Jammeh is.] Mathew.
 
The recognition that you are not the problem, and that Yahya may be a bigger part of Gambia's problem is why we have been and continue to be trained on a way forward and efforts to rid us of Yahya. It is in fact why we shared our perceptions of you and your interview with Nderry. We are not just beginning to discuss a way forward or effort to rid ourselves of Yahya after your interview. Our very lives are consumed with that conversation. I am pleased you expect reasonableness and objectivity because that is exactly what Bailo and I were soliciting from you and our fellow citizens. In your interview, you shared with us what the NMRDG plans to do within the conversation of a way forward and ridding us of Yahya Jammeh. You shared the contours of the reasons why you began the organisation in the first place, and may I congratulate you on the founding of NMRDG for I think it is a laudable idea, but save for the allegation that Yahya is a tribalist, nothing about what you shared seemed contentious or new to me. Haruna.


--- On Wed, 18/3/09, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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Subject: Re: [>-<] An Interview by self proclaimed most qualified person to be President
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, 18 March, 2009, 2:04 PM

Exactly my sentiments Bailo. And further, we are diffusing Yahya's criminality with intractable tribalism when we should close ranks with our Jola folk (some of whom are our relatives) to dispense with the dishonour Yahya may be bringing on their good number.
Yahya's designs cannot and will not succeed. Uncle Mathew is falling prey to those designs of the criminal mind.
Haruna.


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Pa Musa,
 
I agree with your perspective.
 
The major problem that we are faced with in The Gambia is not a tribal problem. It therefore cannot be addressed resorting to such a potentially divisive strategy. No tribe in the Gambia is immune to the APRC regime's disregard for human rights and constitutionality. The Jamme-led regime is being supported and propped up by Gambians of all ethnicities. We the younger generation must therefore completely reject brother/uncle Matthew`s approach. Even if Yahya should be a manifest tribalist, we cannot redress the prevailing unfortunate situation by pursuing the same myopic and self-destructive path.
 
Greetings
 
Bailo

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Subject: Fw: [>-<] An Interview by self proclaimed most qualified person to be President
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Date: Wednesday, 18 March, 2009, 10:37 AM
--- On Wed, 18/3/09, Pamusa jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Pamusa jallow <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: [>-<] An Interview by self proclaimed most qualified person to be President
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Date: Wednesday, 18 March, 2009, 3:07 AM

The Spokesman of the National Movement for the Restoration of Democracy in The Gambia, Mathew K Jallow, says he doesn't care if President Yahya Jammeh20is captured or killed during the nation's efforts to oust his 15 year rule, which the NMRD-G image maker observes has been characterized by massive killing, torture, and maiming of political opponents.  A fierce critic of President Jammeh, Mathew Jallow said his new political Movement is committed to doing everything humanely possible to send Jammeh packing. As far as I am concerned, I dont give a damn how Jammeh gets out; all I want is for him to be gone back to where his black axxx came from, Casamance. Do you think I care about Jammeh wellbeing? Hell no. If he stops breathing right now I will be dancing over his nasty black ass corpse, Jallow posited.  Mr. Jallow in this exclusive interview with the Freedom Newspaper accuses President Jammeh of inciting unrest in The Gambia.  If Jammeh thinks that he can depend on the Jolas to remain in power, he is in for rude awakening. He does not know that there are more Fulas in Guinea Bissau alone than the entire 500,000 Jola population in the entire world. This is even a little more than the just the Fula population in The Gambia. If he wants to incite tribal war in our country, using the Jolas from Casamance, he is only inviting another calamity, he warns.  Below is the full text of the interview.  Please read on.
 
Folks,
 
The above link and headline is by my Koto and Domm bayy M. Mathew Jallow and I am aghast at the poor judgement in the reported choice of words...the problem of The Gambia is not a "Jola" problem and President Jammeh is as Gambian as Pap Saine and you and I...
 
the slave master borders are the last thing we should use in our arguments because they lack moral authority and last...for those of us in the Diaspora with citizenship and children with citizenship, we will be inflamed if anyone suggest we go back where we came from...just like right wing whites were attacked for questioning Barack Husein Obama's citizenship and loyalty to the US, so we must also reject those amongst us who raise the same spectre..it behoves all of us to set a higher standard than those we disparage...
 
In my humble opinion, this language is unacceptable and unhelpful and my Koto and Dommbayy has not only lost my vot e but also some of the respect I had for him for his life time experience and achievements!!!!
 
I regret!
Pa Musa Jallow
 
 


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