Haruna, There is fine line between a genuine thread for discussion and one that flames. I am hoping that all subscribers will take it upon ourselves to learn to differentiate the two. Not self-censorship but shared responsibility in keeping the L a wonderful bantaba. Malanding Haruna Darbo wrote: > Kukeh, > > I tend to lean toward Suntou forwarding notes from Mathew and anyone > else. Also I appreciate Pasamba and any one else to challenge such > notes. I do honour and appreciate you for advising sobriety in as much > as the exchanges go. Perhaps the need to have Suntou forward his notes > here would encourage Mathew to subscribe if only as an intermittent > contributor. > > When challenged, Mathew can peruse the archives or I encourage Suntou > to forward any challenges to him so he can respond in good time if he > wished. This will help keep Ellen lively and dynamic. And you will not > be accused of restricting comment. > > It may be extremely difficult to change personalities and their > entertainment values. And it may take away from your valuable time > trained toward commoner good. As long as the subscriber or contributor > is of adult age and sound mind, the onus ought to be on them to act > with propriety and a modicum of sobriety. No one needs a subscription > to access the archives and anyone can subscribe or be sponsored to > join us should they wish. In fact I will encourage active participants > to alert inactive (archive-rover) participants whenever a challenge is > directed their way that did not issue from any comment he/she made > here. This will afford the maligned an opportunity to defend > themselves. I say only deceased persons and minors ought not be > challenged here. Even that is only a wish of mine. I may not be able > to affect others' compass. > > Anyway Kukeh, I appreciate your guardianship and wisdom. That is why I > don't want you to overwhelm yourself for nought. > Haruna. > > In a message dated 4/21/2009 1:39:54 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Dr Jaiteh, just for this topic allow Mathew to respond to any > question directed at him. After this, i reserve the right to > forward writings i find appealing. of course, Mathew like Halifa > have been around in Gambian journalistic circles for a long time > and they all deserve our attention. This doesn't mean, accepting > what they say or following them, it only means giving others a > chance to have their say. I thank you Dr Jaiteh for the diplomatic > way you handle sensitive issues here. As an elder, i say balalma > for making you over watchful on material emanating from my angle. > But i have done the best to be respectful and polite. On issues of > national interest, it is unwise to be a tiger without claws, just > puffing. I respect bailo and will continue to do so. We share > something more important than party political differences. > Suntou > > --- On *Tue, 21/4/09, Malanding Jaiteh /<[log in to unmask]>/* wrote: > > From: Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: Mathew K Jallow's item > To: [log in to unmask] > Date: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009, 6:26 PM > > Pasamba, > I believe we are giving this thread undeserved attention. In addition > Mathew is not a member of the L to respond to any queries. I am > confident that Suntou recognize folly in forwarding it in the first > place and would recall it if he could. This is one of those rare moments > MUNYAL/ SABARR is called for. > > Malanding Jaiteh > > > > pasamba jow wrote: > > Demba, > > Mathew has no credibility and cannot be taken seriously. I just have a > > few questions for him > > How can a person who was visited by the military brass to offer him a > > ministerial post stand in the street like a spectator and even run > > away?Which storey building was this and who is the owner.?What > > relation does Halifa have with the owner to run into a building?Can he > > name one Gambian who is still alive as witness? > > I hope he will help us by answering these questions. I remember that > > day vividly and was in constant contact with Halifa and other PDOIS > > members. I will await his response. > > Pasamba > > > > "True peace is not merely the absence of tension; it is the presence > > > of justice." Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. > > > > --- On *Tue, 4/21/09, Demba Baldeh /<[log in to unmask]>/* wrote: > > > > From: Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> > > Subject: Re: Mathew K Jallow's item > > To: [log in to unmask] > > Date: Tuesday, April 21, 2009, 3:39 AM > > > > Did Matthew not know who Halifa was at the time? Ask uncle DA if > > Matthew did not know who Halifa was. Who would confused Halifa, > > Sedia and Sam Sarr with anyone else in the Gambia? > > You know guys credibility is about everything. Without credibility > > a story and its teller has no validity. Suntu and Matthew are in > > the same boat "Rebels wihtout a course" looking for > attention > > in anyway they can get it. > > > > The mind is a terrible thing to waste and knowledge without common > > sense is a sad combination. Dr. King once said " If a man cannot > > find something to die for, then they probably are not worth > living" > > > > Thanks > > > > > > > > On Mon, Apr 20, 2009 at 4:39 PM, yanks dabo <[log in to unmask] > > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > > > Suntu > > > > I told you Bailo won't be happy with your revelation, but > tell > > him to get lost. > > What's wrong with Halifa leaving a trail of dust behind him. > > Only that dim-wit, > > Muhammed Drammeh, would regard that as cowardice; then you > > wonder what > > is wrong with being cowardice after all. > > > > James Boswell wrote in the "life of Samuel Johnson", > 1971: > > > > "/It is thus that mutual cowardice keeps us in peace. / > > /Were one half of mankind brave and one half cowards, / > > /the brave would be always beating the cowards. / > > /Were all brave, they would lead a very uneasy life; / > > /all would be continually fighting: but being all cowards, / > > /we go very well". / > > > > Therefore, being cowards is not criminal after all for it > > keeps us in peace. > > In fact *all mortals are cowards for they fear dead*, simple! > > > > Yanks > > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 22:03:59 +0000 > > From: [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > > Subject: Re: Mathew K Jallow's item > > To: [log in to unmask] > > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > > Suntou wrote: "I don't hate anyone".That cannot be > true, you > > know that and we know that. > > Suntou also stated: "Trust no politician, the game is > SELF." > > Trust me, the political profession contrary to your > > understanding is not always about SELF. Sir Edward Francis > > Small, Nelson Mandela, Mahatma Ghandi, Halifa Sallah, Seedia > > Jatta! > > > > Look before you leap and think before you write. > > > > Bailo > > > > > > i don't hate anyone. It is a political exchange, bringing > > what may be of interest to some members is not tantamount > > to hate. Our politics should pass the stage of sensoship > > and comfort zones. The item produce by Mathew can be > > challange and it should be challange. Those that mean, all > > card should be off the table for reconcialiation talks? > > Halifa trying to safe his life is no crime and it should > > not be. I will run if that means geting away from the > > thugs. He is no super-man. You are well aware Karim that, > > our own labour government is going through a bad patch. > > The party is under intensive scrutiny for many things, And > > rightly so. I, like many ordinary folks don't trust > > politicians, And that will include you Karim, haruna, Dr > > Jaiteh or whoever enters politics. Trust no politician, > > the game is SELF. > > > > > > --- On *Mon, 20/4/09, abdoukarim sanneh > > /<[log in to unmask] > > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>/* wrote: > > > > From: abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask] > > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > > Subject: Re: Mathew K Jallow's item > > To: [log in to unmask] > > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 5:10 PM > > > > Suntou > > To honest I agree with Dr Jaiteh's statement. I > don't > > know why you hate an individual as it is the problem. > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ > > Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:59:38 +0000 > > From: [log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > Subject: Re: Mathew K Jallow's item > > To: [log in to unmask] > > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > > > It is an instruction malanding, > > > > --- On *Mon, 20/4/09, Malanding Jaiteh > > /<[log in to unmask] > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>/* wrote: > > > > From: Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask] > > <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> > > Subject: Re: Mathew K Jallow's item > > To: [log in to unmask] > > <mailto:[log in to unmask]> > > Date: Monday, 20 April, 2009, 4:50 PM > > > > Suntou, I think you are a very fine man to go this > > lane. This is very low. I sincerely hope you will > > find time to re-examine you position. Malanding > > Jaiteh SUNTOU TOURAY wrote: > Suntou please post > > for me on the G-L. Thanks: > It was a warn > > Tabo-Koto July mid-morning in 1994. The time was > > around 9.30 am . The coup was in progress, but I > > did not know it yet. As I headed for the > > Latri-Kunda car park for The Daily Observer in > > Bakau, I notice something very strange. Everyone > > in Tabo-Koto and Fagi-Kunda seemed to be coming > > towards my direction and there were no moving > > vehicles on the roads. As I walked towards the car > > park, I kept asking people I met what was going > > on, but no one really knew. Around the Latri-Kunda > > market, I saw people I knew and went to them. They > > thought a coup was in progress, but were not sure. > > I decided to press on to Sere-Kunda. I walked all > > the way to Sere-Kunda market as many other people > > were also doing. Throughout the trip, military > > vehicles were coming and going either towards > > Brikama or Banjul . There was a large crowd of > > confused citizens around Sere-Kunda market who had > > idea what was going on either. Everyone saw what I > > saw; soldiers with guns driving ceaselessly up and > > down the streets. At the Sere- Kunda police > > station, a group of soldiers had surrounded the > > station; trapping all the police officers inside. > > Outside the station another crowd of curious > > onlookers gathered. I elbowed and shouldered my > > way through the crowd to a military officer > > standing outside the station main door, who liked > > like he was the leader of the military contingent > > and I asked him what was going on. > > "Mr. Jallow, get out of here.� He > said. I repeated my question and > > he repeated his answer. So I walked back. I was > > able to gather pieces of information here and > > there and I went to Sweabou Conateh's newspaper > > office at the Sere-Kunda market and called the > > Observer and the Point to file a report. I think I > > was the only reporter out and about gathering news > > on that day. > > Everyone else from the Observer to the Point and > Sweabou’s Gambia News > > were holed up in the safety of their offices. In > > any case, after three hours, I began to the long > > walk back to Fagi Kunda. Around the twin storey > > building near where the Brikama Highway branches > > into the Banjul and Sere- Kunda roads, I found a > > group of about five people standing by the side of > > the road talking rather animatedly. The gentleman > > in the middle was doing the talking while everyone > > else listened. I stopped to listen to what they > > were discussing, but within a few minutes, some > > military vehicles appeared in the distance around > > Bambo Nightclub, racing towards Brikama. As the > > military vehicles approached the gas station at > > the corner, the man in the center of the group > > turned around and without saying a word, bolted > > and ran inside the twin storey compound leaving a > > trail of dust behind him. I turned and looked at > > him disappear hurriedly behind gate of the > > compound leaving the other people behind. I could > > not believe what I was seeing. The man was none > > other than the brave savior, the hero, the > > sacrificial lamb. The man was Halifa Sallah. I > > turned around and headed for Fagi-Kunda and > > towards home. 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