Haruna, Word has it the scorpions are particularly active during spring time. I am compelled to lift any restrictions (including limits on postings) that would impinge on their movement - for life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Malanding [log in to unmask] wrote: > Evian: > > Vantage point is another way of saying "point of view" or perspective. > > [While I'm here, let me answer a question you asked of me: I am asking > Haruna, What is wrong with fact finding or gathering evidence to bulid > up ones case as Halifa was doing when he was arrested?] Evian. > > Nothing is wrong with fact-finding missions. duplicitous and > endless fact-finding however beggars belief and is good sport. I did > not know Halifa was "fact-finding" to build up a case. Sorry. Who were > the plaintiffs and who were the defendants? Which court was the case > being heard in? You're too funny men. Investigative journalists go on > fact-finding missions for their publications. You might get some > traction Evian if you said Halifa was an investigative journalist for > Foroyaa but then that would betray the profuse coverage Foroyaa's > other "journalists" had given the matter. I must have missed where > Halifa retained counsel to prosecute his case after the fact-finding. > I want you to go on a fact-finding of "witch-hunting" and bring it to > me to file suit a class-action suit on your victims' behalf. Evian, > perhaps that was what Suntou's Oped was saying: > > That after the magnanimous self-sacrifice of Halifa, and having > gathered the facts necessary, what next? And that other Gambians are > encouraged to assist in making use of Halifa's facts. > > Oh I forgot, the facts gathered resided on a laptop that was seized > and purged. New Kambians!! > Haruna. Nzerekore mountain air is not good for your small lungs Evian. > MQJGDT. Darbo. Kukeh can I have some of your posting issues??? Or I > will go on a fact-finding to build a case against your consortium. > > Haruna. > > In a message dated 4/16/2009 3:11:09 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > > Ginny, > > You used "vantage point"; I told you my perception of what you > meant by it. If that does not tally with what you meant, then > explain what you meant. > Don't you for a moment think that we are not vantaged because we > have a leader like Yahya Jammeh. Ehh? If so you also had George W. > Bush. Didn't he screw up the whole world into a human rights and > economic recession before he left? > > Let me be brutally honest with you. YOU DO NOT HAVE ANY VANTAGE > POINT OVER ME IN MATTERS OF GAMBIAN AFFAIRS. YOU MAY HAVE THAT > OVER SUNTOU OR HARUNA OR YOUR PET DOG. > > New Amerikaaaans! They would not cease to amaze! > > Bailo > > > > > > --- On *Thu, 16/4/09, Ginny Quick /<[log in to unmask]>/* wrote: > > > From: Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]> > Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next? > To: [log in to unmask] > Date: Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 7:55 PM > > I find it interesting that although I didn't agree with Halifa's > motives being questioned, etc., all anyone could focus on was my > "vantage point" and take that to mean that I somehow thought > that my > opinion was superior to Gambians because I used the word "vantage > point". And oh yes, fixating on my use of the term "sliced > bread". > And I'd go back to Clarksville if I could, but that's about > 800 miles > from where I'm currently living now. I love it when people try to > insult you and they end up showing just how little they know about > you, and making themselves look utterly foolish in the process by > using words like "hibbies", i.e., Ginny I'm pissed and I'm back. > Please do not insult our intelligence again with such load of > crap. > Take that back to Clarksville will ya. I'm sure hibbies will > jump on > it in a jiffy. God!" > > And what is a hibbie? (running to find a dictionary) > > I find this to be a bit humorous, and you've once again proven > my point, thanks. > > Just for the record, I'm not criticizing Halifa in this case, > however, > I'm criticizing how others react to criticism of him. Let me also > state that I do not question his motives. I don't think he > was acting > in his own self-interest when he went on the fact-finding > mission and > was later arrested and charged. And I disagree with anyone > who wants > to insinuate that he was somehow trying to better himself > politically > by doing so, and that if he'd known he was going to get > arrested, he'd > have not gone on said fact-finding mission. > > I guess that's a load of crap? > > Ginny > > > > > > > On 4/16/09, bailo jallow <[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > Say Amen, Suntou. > > > > Bailo > > > > --- On Thu, 16/4/09, Muhammed Drammeh > <[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > > > From: Muhammed Drammeh <[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>> > > Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next? > > To: [log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]> > > Date: Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 4:57 PM > > > > Hi Suntu > > > > I think you are suffering from inferiority complex. May > Allah help you. > > > > > > > > Muhammad Bai Drammeh Bin Alhagie Sheihu Muhammad Lamin > Drammeh Bin Muhammad > > Kanday Drammeh bin Muhammad Kissima Drammeh bin Foday Drammeh > > > > --- On Thu, 16/4/09, SUNTOU TOURAY <[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > > > From: SUNTOU TOURAY <[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>> > > Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next? > > To: [log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]> > > Date: Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 4:49 PM > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Buharry, Thanks for the enquiry. As you rightly said, i did > mention that He > > stood up to bully. But you have to remember, that statement > was based on the > > initial news stories conveying the manners of his arrest. > > After evaluating all his comments pre and post his release, > I have no doubt > > that, there is a likelihood of political point scoring. > > Again. if you read my comments properly, you would identify > my giving credit > > to the man for some issues and hoping that, the noise that > his arrest > > generated wasn't going to die down with the soundbites. > > I have seen few postings in praise of the bravery and > gallantry of Halifa, i > > did not dispute all of that. But the fact that he utilise > the media more > > than the other leaders doesn't make him the only opposition > leader to have > > spoken on the subject or even did personal enquiry of the > people affected. > > Halifa as a politician knows how to use the media to his > advantage, thus > > feeding the frenzy and hysteria that always surrounds him > from the few key > > drum beat party followers that feed on his every word. This > is not bad in > > itself, but on serious matters like this, political point > scoring are not > > what is appropriate. > > I did not write the piece Buharry to make any one wary of > Halifa, but > > leaving politicians and their comments go unchecked is > dangerous. Yes, i > > know also, some will use every corner to try twist the > message in my piece > > in an attempt to discredit the analysis, but again, that is > expected in > > political dialogue. I am questioning Halifa the politician > Buharry, i hope > > you see it from that angle, just like the politicians in > Sweden and England > > are question for their motives. I know the usual suspects > will continue to > > come out until they feel, they have exonerate the man. But > the fact remains, > > Halifa will always be scrutinise just like other politicians. > > Thanks > > suntou > > > > --- On Thu, 16/4/09, Momodou Buharry Gassama > <[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > > > From: Momodou Buharry Gassama <[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>> > > Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next? > > To: [log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]> > > Date: Thursday, 16 April, 2009, 12:18 AM > > > > Hi Suntou! > > I remember you praising Halifa for "standing up to the > bully" after > > concurring with Modou Mboge in an earlier post that "the > community > > leaders, the women leaders, political leaders etc are all > mute but a > > few. The silence is killing." You even went further stating: > "Modou, > > you asked a legitimate question, but what about the hundreds of > > Gambians reading you here in the Gambia L forum? If the > elders back > > home are mute, one can argue that, may be they are afraid to > offend the > > system IE Yahya. But what about the capable brothers and > sisters in the > > G-L and G-Post? If they can be quiet in matters likes this, > what do you > > think will happen when they go to the Gambia?" That is why I > have > > trouble reconciling those positions with your latest position on > > Halifa's stance insinuating that he had ulterior motives in > "standing > > up to the bully" after all but a few of the leaders and > Diasporans kept > > quiet. Do you see the contradictions? First, all but few of > the leaders > > and others who should speak out against what was going on > kept quiet > > and thus failed in their responsibilities. Then Halifa spoke > and took a > > move that landed him at Mile Two and you praised him for > "standing up > > to the bully". Now you claim that he had ulterior motives for > > "standing > > up to the bully". Can you please help me understand how you > came to > > your conclusion? What do you base your insinuations on? I > want to keep > > an open mind and maybe even re-evaluate my position on > Halifa should > > you be able to throw some light on your claim that he had > ulterior > > motives for doing what he did. Thanks. > > Buharry. > > P.S. > > Please find the posts I quoted from below. > > D.S. > > ------------------ > > From: SUNTOU TOURAY [[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>] > > Date: 2009-03-11 23:18 > > To: <[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>> > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: Halifa charged > > DESPERADO. The end is here. Bravo Halifa for standing up to > the bully. > > Suntou > > > > ------------------------------------------------------- > > From: SUNTOU TOURAY [[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>] > > Date: 2009-03-10 16:42 > > To: <[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>> > > Cc: > > Subject: Re: Halifa Sallah Arrested By Sam Sarr on 09-03-09 > > > > Modou, an intersting statement: "Where are the elders of the > country, > > the religious leaders, the community leaders, the women leaders, > > political leaders etc are all mute but a few. The silence is > killing." > > M Mboge. > > > > Modou, you asked a legitimate question, but what about the > hundreds of > > Gambians reading you here in the Gambia L forum? If the > elders back > > home are mute, one can argue that, may be they are afraid to > offend the > > system IE Yahya. But what about the capable brothers and > sisters in the > > G-L and G-Post? If they can be quiet in matters likes this, > what do you > > think will happen when they go to the Gambia? they will > simply be quiet > > also. reverse psychology. > > Some may hide behind 'I don't time and what have you'. It is > bogus, > > we > > all make time for things that matters to us. and in this > freedom news > > paper and Gambia echo era, many of us read the news. how do > we do that? > > on the net. Modou you are right, the silence is killing. and > for sure, > > Yahya marvel at the fact only a few write about his crimes. > this is a > > moral boost for him. > > In U.K alone, i heard that more than 15 to 20 ex-military > officers > > claimed asylum here. among this folks are former lieutenants and > > captains. They knew what is wrong with our army and how yaya > use the > > army to get his way around. Apart from Alhagi kanteh and > Binneh Minteh, > > which one do hear say anything? Lets us pray, But God/Allah > require us > > to speak against injustice and suppression. We are the > elders tomorrow, > > the elders now are quiet and many among us are quiet today > even those > > whose immediate families have been harmed. Is this how the > western > > society works? be silent over bad happenings, they speak > out, even > > against children rights, women's rights, rapes, theft, > murders, let > > alone politics. many speak but have no interest in holding > political > > positions. let decency dictate. > > suntou > > > > --------------------------------------- > > > > ----Original Message---- > > From: [log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]> > > Date: 2009-04-15 23:41 > > To: <[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>> > > Subj: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next? > > > > Jabou, not to bore anyone, i see Halifa as a politician, if > you see him > > as something else, that is up to you. I cannot control your > thought > > processes neither can't you control mine. > > So please, cut the deceit talk. this is political > discussion, if anyone > > let it boil his/her blood, then you need to start seriously > thinking > > about future topics on Halifa as a politician. > > This is no deceit folks, this is an opinion. it doesn't > matter if > > anyone insult, that is expected in political exchanges. > > Deceit, that is a game of politicians especially those that > have been > > in it for twenty year plus. As you said, "Gambians are > waking up" we > > all hope so. You said some good things in our last > exchanges, and some > > erroneous postings, i analyse them on face value. If i am > the usual > > suspect in the Halifa questioning, then you guys are the usual > > defenders of the man. I see the usual names coming forward, > what does > > that tell us? > > What is Halifa's future plans IE in politics? he did > mentioned that, if > > he loose his Serrekunda seat, he was going to venture in > Academia, i > > feel that, he can do both. thus allowing us to analyse his > political > > career from Magi Eleg to Voice of the future and presently > foroyaa, > > PDOIS and the defunct NADD. It is good opportunity to know > the work of > > politicians. Obama too is coming under scrutiny, that is the > spirit. > > Haruna has maintain his stance all along, that is defend > what should be > > defended and question what need questioning. If that means, > ENVY AND > > JEALOUSY, Jealousy of what? > > suntou > > > > --- On Wed, 15/4/09, Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > > > From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>> > > Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next? > > To: [log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]> > > Date: Wednesday, 15 April, 2009, 4:27 PM > > > > > > Haruna, > > > > I know you and those of like mind are proving yourselves to > be masters > > in the art to twisting good intentions into bad ones, or at > least you > > are giving it all you can, but let me re-iterate that what i > found > > amazing is your warped view regarding Halifa's intentiones > and nothing > > else.You know you cannot and will never be allowed to put > words into > > my mouth, especially disingenous ones. > > Away with malicious deceit, especially when it is intended > for those > > who do not deserve it and you know I am all for justice and > fairness. > > I have called Suntou out before on his mission of deciet and > malice > > against Halifa that he thinks he can disguise as civil > discourse and he > > flatly denied it but here we go again. > > Jabou Joh > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]> > > To: [log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Wed, 15 Apr 2009 8:30 am > > Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next? > > > > > > > > Evian, > > > > You're a beautiful man. Thank you also for copying what > Jabou had > > shared about my notes. I will take the opportunity to > address that for > > Laye and Jabou here. > > > > Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 7:50 PM > > Jabou shared: > > [Haruna wrote:"It was when the onerous exercise threatened PDOIS > > electoral fortunes that Halifa engaged in fact-finding, the > numerous > > rep orts and eye-witness accounts of it not-withstanding." > Wow!. Truly > > amazing.] > > Jabou Joh. > > > > Jabou, I'm glad you appreciate the above fact as "Truly > amazing". > > The > > response was as onerous as the original crime. This world is > full of > > mirages. In Halifa's case there is a confluence of mirages: > One of > > conscience and the other of interest-peddling. The > conscience part > > however triumphs over the interest-peddling part. > > > > [In a message dated 4/15/2009 8:15:38 A.M. Eastern Daylight > Time, > > [log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]> writes: > > > > > > > > > > Jabou, Please excuse my grand dad for when the Tiger is in > the Woods,] > > > > Evian I want you to know Tiger had already gone home when > Suntou shared > > his Oped and the vultures began to descend on him. For no > friggin > > reason. Trying to shut the man up. > > > > [he loses some of his reasoning faculties.] Evian. > > Do you really think yours truly skips a beat Evian? You > jettison your > > own Grand-dad for PDOISard bantanbilly? Mbeemi, Achu! Atay > watiladeh? > > Dang-Kutoo le bentehma. bahna! > > > > [Moreover, grand dad just cannot bring himself to give any > due credit > > to Halifa.] Evian. > > Do y ou ever read or understand my notes on Halifa?? They > are always > > chock-full of praise for Halifa's selfless efforts and > circumspect and > > sobriety for the clueless PDOISdrones. They want to sweep us > all up in > > their cluelessness. I am not a witch. > > > > [Why? Am yet to fully comprehend.] Evian. > > I gathered as much. You, like most other PDOISards will never be > > satisfied until I begin to worship Halifa for nought. It's > in your > > bloods. Its not your fault that's why I never get upset with a > > PDOISard. E-bukay Taw. Alla La kaybaaroo Lom wolbayti. > Ekoloobaliyaata, > > Ebuka-keybaa bunyaa! Ila Makkamol fanang mang Timma. Na > Fitiyaye deng > > fitiyaye so. Na Lebintiman dem. Ndasimma Nke Nta Hayinni!!! > > > > [Bailo] > > How are you getting along in your new home? I hope great. > Look forward > > to hearing you more often. You know your former employer is > > international should you not decide to change careers. > Personally I > > think you are exceptionally well suited for that line of > work. It > > screams out from your notes here and we are all proud of you. > > > > Haruna. > > > > --- On Tue, 14/4/09, Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > > > > > > From: Jabou Joh <[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>> > > Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next? > > To: [log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]> > > Date: Tuesday, 14 April, 2009, 7:50 PM > > > > > > Haruna wrote: > > > > "It was when the onerous exercise threatened PDOIS electoral > fortunes > > that Halifa engaged in fact-finding, the numerous reports > and eye- > > witness accounts of it not-withstanding." > > > > Wow!. Truely amazing. > > Jabou Joh > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]> > > To: [log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]> > > Sent: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 9:21 am > > Subject: Re: The Halifa Factor, what next? > > > > > > > > Laye, Good to hear you again. > > > > Allow me to chime in for a minute. > > > > I totally understand your sentiments vis-a-vis Halifa Sallah > and I > > share some of those sentiments. I also understand Suntou's > oped and I > > share some of his views. I am of equal opportunity > grace. What I see is > > that we risk taking this conversation to the sentimental and > ecumenical > > realm as is usually the case when we speak about Halifa, a > man who > > aspires to lead Gambia through the political party PDOIS. I > advise that > > we bear on sobriety. > > > > I take Suntou's oped as a fact-finding query given the fact that > > Gambians have a cynical view of politic king. Perhaps Suntou > can yield > > greater perspective on politics in this query. He is not to be > > dismissed for sentimental reasons however. It is natural for > a PDOISard > > to be up in arms when=2 0their party leader is questioned > but consider > > that with the requisite temerity and discernments, the > questioning, > > even if disdainful, can strengthen the leader as well as > improve our > > lot as a people. > > > > I commend Halifa for embarking on a fact-finding mission > into the witch- > > hunting saga as a human being. Witch-hunting is the > veritable insult to > > our collective consciences and acumen, especially one > sanctioned by > > Yahya, whose faculties are not readily discernible. You have > posited, > > and appropriately, that the onus of fact-finding in such > egregious > > matter is not the reserve of Halifa alone; to wit: "Halifa > Sallah is > > not and should not be the only person of dignified > conscience amongst > > the leaders or those who claim to be opposition leaders in > Gambia. What > > he has done and gone through demonstrates to all and sundry > that you, I > > and every human Gambian must not stand aside and look while > your fellow > > Gambian and human is being humiliated in the most degrading > manner." > > Laye, you will therefore agree with Suntou that all Gambians > have been > > equally incensed by the saga, but that Halifa being the > leader of PDOIS > > had wished to capitalize on common disdain to yield PDOIS > greater > > fortune. I am reminded that there are others in PDOIS like > Sam, Sidia, > > Amadou, Samba, Suleyman, who could have embarked on the same > fact- > > finding, but were they to have been arrested, they do not > stand an > > equal chance of relief as Halifa had. To whom much is given, > much more > > is expected. ;You will see that Halifa himself has shared > in his > > defense of the erroneous charges levelled against him by an > uncouth and > > clueless prosecutor, that he derived his rights from our common > > constitution and the fact that he is a leader of a political > party. Any > > journalist can embark on the fact-finding mission and by dint > > of Halifa's association with the PDOIS party organ Foroyaa, > he has > > added umph! These are some of the reasons you feel > comfortable in > > comparing > > Halifa to Gambia's other politicians who in your own words and > > disdainfully "claim to be opposition leaders in Gambia." You > know > > what > > happens to journalists who embark on fact-finding missions > including > > Foroyaa journalists. Politics therefore was a major factor > in both > > enabling Halifa to embark on a fact-finding mission. Were he > not leader > > of PDOIS, proprietor of Foroyaa, a respectable contributor > to the pan- > > African parliament, he may have or may not have entertained > the risks > > associated with fact-finding in Gambia. > > > > The broader picture therefore is that even though many > Gambians are > > incensed with the witch-hunting grafignette, our political > leaders, > > opposition or incumbent, are the ones most empowered to > prosecute our > > collective disdains and anxieties. This means that politics > is our > > legislative life. Whether Halifa engaged with ulterior=2 > 0political > > motives or not, is therefore immaterial to me. However, ordinary > > citizens are free to query his motives as much as they are > free to > > express repulsion at Yahya's motives and pantomime. It is in the > > explanation and general disposition of PDOIS and Halifa that > will yield > > attenuated fortunes. > > > > It is unwise to compare Halifa to our other opposition political > > leaders from both a human standpoint and from a colegial > view. That I > > think will be the height of conceit and an insult to our > collective > > intelligence. And it unfortunately furthers the strictly > political > > motive of Halifa and PDOIS. You will realize that we did not > get to the > > point of Yahya embarking on repulsive witch-hunting > exercises in a > > vacuum. Life is ever so dynamic. Yahya was enabled somehow and I > > suppose that has escaped us. That is the schematics of > politics that > > erodes most future and "pure" goodwill. > > > > What Suntou is trying to figure out, is whether there is > salvage value > > in the preliminary steps taken by Halifa and whether Halifa > can be > > instrumental in yielding that salvage value for commoner > good. I submit > > that the best way to achieve that is by all of us > enabling our other > > political leaders in APRC, UDP/NRP (NDP), PPP, GPP, and GDP to > > coordinate the prosecution of our legislative life as > Gambians. The > > days of bunker politics are waning and there are signs > everywhere for > > the astute. We did not see any amalgam of forces by our > political > > leaders when20Taf-Taf Yahya bereft of Gardens stole Brufut > Lands and > > dispossessed Brufutians, nor did we see the same when > Halfdiens were > > unscrupulously dispossessed of their homes in the name of port > > expansion.=2 0Witch-hunting and circumstance is tantalizing > and a gross > > violation of human rights. But so are the myriad precursor > trespasses > > that enabled it. You will realize that Halifa is not easily > amenable to > > coordination of effort with other opposition parties. > Glaring. The > > witch-hunting fact-finding could yield more tangible results > if it were > > actively coordinated. But PDOIS is on a mission that does > not seem to > > be common relief. It was when the onerous exercise > threatened PDOIS > > electoral fortunes that Halifa engaged in fact-finding, the > numerous > > reports and eye-witness accounts of it not-withstanding. > Halifa's > > initial statements on the saga betrays ignorance to warrant > a fact- > > finding. > > > > That is all for now. - Haruna. Allez-y!! > > > > > > > > > > In a message dated 4/14/2009 3:43:39 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > > [log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]> writes: > > Suntu: > > > > Halifa Sallah is not and should not be the only person of > dignified > > conscience amongst the leaders or those who claim to be > opposition > > leaders in Gambia. What20he has done and gone through > demonstrates to > > all and sundry that you, I and every human Gambian must not > stand > > aside and look while your fellow Gambian and human is being > humiliated > > in the most degrading manner.=2 0We should be thankful that > we know in > > Halifa, ONE Gambian that will stand up to the brutalities of the > > regime and would rather die or languish in jail than to sit > and see > > his fellow beings dehumanized in broad day light. To > insinuate that > > Halifa was looking for personal or political gain in the > exercise of > > liberating his conscience and dignifying the value of human > life, > > smirks of debilitating ignorance and an insult to his and our > > conscience...God forbid! > > > > -Laye > > > > On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 4:08 AM, <[log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]>> wrote: > >> An interesting oped to ponder Suntou. Discerner-in-Chief!!! > I think > > Yahya > >> shot himself in the foot. And I'm worried about our two bad > left- > > eyes. New > >> Kambians!!!! Haruna. You pamplemousse!!! > >> > >> In a message dated 4/13/2009 6:29:40 P.M. Eastern Daylight > Time, > >> [log in to unmask] > <mip:[log in to unmask]> writes: > >> > >> Monday, 13 April 2009 > >> > >> Halifa Factor In Gambia's Witch Hunt debacle > >> > >> By Suntou Touray > >> With the dust almost settled even though facts about the > Gambiaââ?¬â > > ?¢s witch > >> hunting episode may all not be known, there=2 0is occasion > to reflect > > over the > >> whole encounter. Men dressed in red raided settlements in > search of > > witches. > >> They captured people of decent background and made them consume > > lethal > >> concoctions in the name of ridding them off witch craft > spirits. Some > > of the > >> captives died. Large numbers still remain in biting pains, > mostly > > deep in > >> their stomach. > >> Former Serrekunda East parliamentary member and sociologist > Halifa > > Sallah > >> was last month arrested and detained at mile 2 prisons for > over a > > week. This > >> was due to his decision to visit two villages over a witch > hunting > >> incidence. Halifa after his release commented that he went > on a fact > > finding > >> mission to the two villages. More accurately put he tried > to proof > > whether > >> the witch hunting story was actually true or false. > >> Halifa was arrested afterward because the government felt > that, he as > > an > >> ordinary citizen of the Gambia who seeking to impersonate > the work of > > the > >> police or state security agents. > >> No doubt Halifa by all regards played brave by what he did. > Why he > > did so > >> remains a question on wet lips. > >> Some people considered it a genuine move by Halifa to prove > what > > others > >> thought a mere rumour. To others Halifa was in a publicity > campaign > > for > >> himself and certainly scored political points whether he > preferred > > using > >> that or not. > >> From what came out of the encounter Halifa made us all to > know th at > > the > >> witch hunting story is real and the actions are sanctioned > by Gambia > >> government. > >> What next after knowing the true story still a valid > question for > > curious > >> onlookers. Will there be any lawsuit against the government > for the > > unlawful > >> conduct o f humiliating and harassing innocent Gambians? > >> The witch hunting episode ended up projecting Halifaââ?¬â?¢s > > political profile at > >> higher levels. He was a victim of arbitrary arrest but that > by itself > >> arrested the tormenting witch hunt at least until matters > settled > > over > >> Halifaââ?¬â?¢s own arrest and brief detention. The whole saga > > eventually shifted > >> from the witch hunting focusing on Halifa. That earned him > a high > > profile > >> victim of the unjust government crime of witch hunting. > >> Halifa made noise about the remote control Gambian > constitution loud > > enough. > >> He defended his action by quoting various sections of the > Gambian > >> constitution, a document he knows about inside out. Halifa > knows too > > well > >> also that document is serving one man and one man only, > Yahya Jammeh > > the > >> current Gambian head of state. Since many Gambians know for > a fact > > that > >> document is not protecting their human rights for a number > reasons > > one > >> wonders if there was any need for Halifa to labour over > > constitutionality > >> this fragrant government encounter with innocent citizens. > >> The gains of Halifaââ?¬â?¢s intervention can double20if he > was to > > help the victims > >> pursue claims of damage resulting from such inhuman > treatment. The > > victims > >> deserve good compensation. > >> The good efforts of Halifa placed him beyond the single > position of > > flag > >> bearer PDOIS /NADD to the lofty point of standing tall for > Gambian > > people in > >>20times of need. This is enough wakeup call for Gambians > over length > > and > >> breadth of the country to resist the advances of witch hunters. > > Halifa can > >> draft a comprehensive law suit against the government as > seen truly > > standing > >> up for the people. The point of departure would be the > constitution, > > a book > >> fully in Halifaââ?¬â?¢s firm grips. Impeachment > proceedings against > > > > the president > >> can be initiated, thus demonstrating severity human rights > > violations. > >> The law suits may not bear quicker results but to make the > government > > pay > >> victims. Through that citizens will go long way in exposing the > > severity of > >> state organized crimes. > >> We await Halifaââ?¬â?¢s future actions concerning the > witch hunting > > > > debacle. > >> Halifaââ?¬â?¢s political profile is undoubtedly boosted. Other > > gains > > exceed > >> individual political scores. Yahya should not have arrested > Halifa in > > the > >> first place. The only reason one would think he ordered his > arrest > > was to > >> cause wider divide among the ranks of the opposition. > >> Halifaââ?¬â?¢s followers have a talking point- our only > saviour > > they > > would say.20He > >> emerged hero of the hour. 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