(And what is the Green Boys' mentality Paripanna???) Haruna. You don't know what a green boys' mentality is? OK, Here is what I will recommend that you add to your itinerary for your site seeing tour to Basse with uncle Suntou: While in the Kombos, before you leave for Basse, I suggest that you go to Baba Jobe's compound where you can see and interact with actual green boys. I know you guys would love to meet the witch hunters too because both of you are brave men. This experience will definitely put both of you in a comparable advantage on your on going debate against the PDOISards. Because you would have met the actual witch hunters and the green boys eyeball to eyeball as opposed to Halifa's method of running after their shadows. Probably they may be gracious to allow you spent the night at Baba Jobe's Hotel too. Von voyage! --- On Sat, 4/25/09, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: (no subject) / Paripanna / Jatta Njie, on Dramane & Yanks To: [log in to unmask] Date: Saturday, April 25, 2009, 8:40 PM Paripanna, I had shared with JDAM Wandifaa that I am awake even when I'm asleep. Like Yahya. So I wouldn't worry about Haruna being sleepy if I were you. C'est la meme chose. I will share some ideas with you here: [In a message dated 4/25/2009 6:17:57 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Et tu Masoud!] Jatta Njie. Bah oui! [Reading from the last couple of mails you sent in you sound like somebody sleepy. I do like your contributions here but not when you sound tired, sleepy or fixated on Mr. Drammeh.FYI Mr. Mballow had effectively address the question of Mr. Drammeh.] Jatta Njie. Addressed. I think Mballow addresses Dramane's pannafore on his own behalf. That does not have much to do with Haruna. [And you missed my point. My point was not whether lawyer Darboe becoming president or not; my point was, there is a sizable segment of the Gambian population that is tired of this green boys mentality.] Jatta Njie. And what is the Green Boys' mentality Paripanna??? [You get it?] Jatta Njie. I'm sorry I didn't get it my good friend. [Now you too go to sleep. Will ya?] Jatta Njie. And what'd I tell you about my sleep business???? dankuto leh beng tayma. Nka Malu-ilaleh. [And before you go to sleep note that UDP needs to win this segment too.] Jatta Njie. I imagine that would be UDP's purview. Wouldn't you say??? [And I am sorry if this mail come with no subject. It is not deliberate.] Jatta Njie. Don't fret my good lad. Its not important. [I am using a blackberry as opposed to a pc.] Jatta Njie. I hope you get electrocuted with these blackberries. Laye is another one who is permanently tethered to these gadgets. You better be careful. I think President Obama is unduly burdening himself now that he is President of the US. If he should ask me, I'll advise he jettison his blackberry, spruced-up and all. [Thanks!] Jatta Njie. Yeah I love you too gaddamit. Haruna. I am not pleased with you at this time. Maybe later. Haruna Darbo wrote: > Jatta Njie, > > I can assure you Yanks is not affecting Ousainou's chances of becoming > President of Gambia OR NOT becoming President of Gambia. Yanks is defending the > honour of his parent against an uncouth moron. > > Go back to sleep. Ousainou's political demarche for the people of Gambia > and his party goes on unabated, whether that leads him to become President or > not. The Presidency is not the overarching desire of such honourable men as > Ousainou, Hamat, OJ, Halifa, Hassan Musa, Waa, or Hon. Fatty. > > Haruna. > > In a message dated 4/25/2009 12:21:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, > [log in to unmask] writes: > Frankly, > I'm very disappointed that Yanks put up this animated attack against > Mr. Drammeh for his reference to lawyer Darbo as a coward.At this rate > you are coming across as one bad boy Uday Hussein on rehearsal. And I think > you are doing more damage at Mr. Darbo's chances of becoming > president than what you perceived Mr. Drammeh is doing.And I'm > urging Mr. Mballow to discourage that kind of tone > coming from an individual claiming to be an immediate family > member of lawyer Darbo. I urge Mr. Mballow to ask the family of lawyer Darbo > to refrain from validating the accusations that the Darbos > are untouchable. Sincerely, Lamin Jatta Muhammed > Drammeh wrote: > I will no longer respond to Yankuba Darboe unless he > is prepared to talk about issues. He does not deserved to to be responded to. > Let the members of the L make their own judgement. He has confirm to the L > that his support and defence of Darboe is based on nepotism which is sad. He > is still attacking me personally. Thus this will be my last response to Yanks > until he grows up. About your expectation of Halifa and co taking on Jammeh > and removing him from power, I will respond separately not to you but the > members of the L. > Muhammad Bai Drammeh Bin Alhagie Sheihu > Muhammad Lamin Drammeh Bin Muhammad Kanday Drammeh bin Muhammad Kissima > Drammeh bin Foday Drammeh --- On Sat, 25/4/09, yanks dabo > <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > From: yanks dabo > <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Justice for Lawyer Darboe not Muhammed > Drammeh! To: [log in to unmask] Date: Saturday, 25 April, 2009, 12:50 > AM > "I believe that Muhammed Drammeh betrayed his own > guidelines. Drammeh initially advised that Ousainou should not be deemed to be > a coward for seeking sanctuary at the Senegalese High Commission but then not > not only did he, Drammeh, subsequently personally try to prosecute Ousainou he > ultimately went to the extent of sentencing Ousainou to life on the > 'Island-of-no-return-from-cowardice'. Seriously, If Ousainou were a coward or > a selfish opportunist, he would have by now joined the APRC regime in some > capacity" By Bailo Jallow Bailo; you speak the language of the quran in > the above statement, i could not add anything more to it. Unfortunately, the > only person who is still oblivion to this fact is Mr Drammeh. As he > wondered why he was condemed for his blasphemy. Lord Devlin once said " > a rebel is > right in thinking that he has a right to rebel > against society, but he was wrong to think that society would condone his > rebellion ". Mr Drammeh started his diatribe on 5 April 2009 on > the Gambia post. At first i did not want to read it or participate in it. > But the post was not enough for Mr Drammeh. So he brought it to the > Gambia L, who knows where else he was heading with it, if did hep him to put > sense in him, Fredomnewspaper, BBC, CNN. That was the reason for my > timely intervention, which was two weeks later on 17 April 2009. > Contrary to what Mr Drammeh struggled to allege, I did not start by > attacking him. I started by asking him to explain what was his yardstick > to confirm that Ousainou is a coward. He never bothered to > asnwer this. I tried to help him understand the rational behind Darboe's > actions. I even went as far as explaining to him that what > > Ousainou did was not cowardice but that of a Lawyer exercising his > convention right, under the 1951 Geneva convention. However, just > as Saihou Mbalow, Haruna, Suntu, Ginny, and many others had tried and > failed, I had also failed to convince this man that Ousainou is > not a coward. However, to make matters worst and unlike his reactions to > others, this ballooney started fabricating stories about me being chased by > Major Bojang. That was very much uncalled for, then he wondered why i had to > go after his lineage. The simple truth is that Drammeh thinks he is a > clever man, but he is a fool! He claimed that Ousainou is a coward; I am > a coward, because i ran away from Major Bojang; Haruna is a coward, because he > wouldn't bother responding to his emails. So, he expected me to do, > what derided, as "the Darboe thing". This hero boy failed > to understand that what he was > insinuating was an insult to > all Darboe's without realising. Yet he finds it offending that his > father was dragged into the banter. If > Drammeh only claimed to be a PDOIS, NADD, sympathiser, our exchanges > wouldn't have gone this far. Simply because, Drammeh, is not the > only Talibe of Halifa Sallah in this forum. However, his difference to > the rest is that they know their bounds whilst he doesn't. You can > support a party without insulting others. However, once you attack or > insult other people's party, you cannot expect them to condone your actions; > fact. Drammeh could have done a good job by just stating the fact that he > is a PDIOS supporter or even go further to praise Halifa, Sidia and Sam > as the power of trinity . Write books about their bravery and see if i > care! As far as I am concern, if Halifa, Sidia and Sam > are that > brave, they would scold Yahya by the throat > and drag him out of State House. But they have not done that yet, > have they? So what's the fuss about their gallantry? > As for the actions of Dr Jaiteh, I do not wish to comment. I knew > Dr Jaiteh at Kotu Bojang's compound in Brikama, i do not think he would > remember me now, that's if its the same Dr Jaiteh. I had high regards for the > man then then and will continue to have that for him now, even if he > decides to exclude me from his national bantaba. I had > been excluded from the Gambia post, then Yusupha and > George reinstate me few months ago without my authorisation. > However, i still chose not to contribute on there beacuse their actions > are only akin to that of Yahya Jammeh. I hate censureship and > cannot see a moral justification for it. For that reason i commend all those > who stand against > it here. I will go silent for now, but > will surely come back if i heard any more Lawyer Darboe diatribe. > I rest my case! Yanks Darboe The Darboe's don't run and > are not cowards, simple!!!! > > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:50:24 -0700 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: > Justice for Muhammed Drammeh -Thank you To: [log in to unmask] > > Dear All, > > I am very > grateful for all your effort in ensuring my right to participate in the > democratic process of The Gambia. > > Some of > you disagree with you but you still want my rights to express myself restored. > I cannot say anymore except to express my gratitude. > > > Members of the L know that my attacks on Darboe were not > personal at all and all I did is to talk about issues. My brother Musa Drammeh > won two elections for the PPP in 1987 and 1992 in Sandu. My cousin Chondi > Drammeh stood for election for the UDP in the 1997 parliamentary election and > lost. However much they are attacked I will not take it personally and I was > still opposed to the PPP even though Musa Drammeh was a parliamentary > secretary under the Jawara government. I oppose the APRC government even > though Susan Waffa-Ogoo who taught me English Language until I passed my > Common Entrance Examination was/is Secretary of state under Jammeh. My dad's > elder brother Alhagie Bineh Drammeh stood for the GPP in 1987 election. > Despite my relations with the above I will not react if they are attacked for > their policies. Despite Yankuba Darboe's relation with Darboe he should never > have > reacted the way he does simply because Darboe is his > relative. I only attacked the action of Darboe. As matter of fact I would not > have come to this conclusion should Yankuba Darboe not started trading in > insults. I was not allowed to contribute to the L while Yankuba was allowed to > continuously call me a liar. Despite all these I refrain initially to respond > to Yankuba in the way he started. Yankuba went as far as insulting my Dad who > has never ran for office of any sort. Thus there was no need to attack my dad > on the grounds of "emotional reactionarism". Some in in L call me a PDOIS > supporter. Yankuba Darboe went as far as calling me an NIA. He even accused me > of being an APRC supporter. No no no I have never been an NIA never will and I > have never supported the APRC and never will. however my opposition to Jammeh > is not geared towards the hatred of his language grouping. It is geared > towards my opposition towards his policies. I still have a very > > good relation with Susan Waffa-Ogoo despite our political difference. The last > time I was in The Gambia I even visited her home. As a matter of fact some of > Susan's friend thought that she was my mum. > > > Thus members of the L I support or oppose a parties simply > because of policies not because of "nepotic sentiments". > > > Members of the L may I inform you that it was my friend who > while in the services of The Gambia Red Cross Society, was shot dead in > headquarters of The Gambia Red Cross Society. This was my friend and his name > is Omar Barrow. When I went to The Gambia in 2004 I visited his widow Awa > Sanneh. If there is anyone who should be angry I should be the angriest. > I lost a personal friend. My anger however will never be geared towards > the hatred of Jammeh's tribe but my opposition of his policies. This is > what principled people do. They act and they do not react. I believe in a > Gambia of Productive economy, I believe in a Gambia where labour is rewarded > and not mere the labour power being paid for. I believe in a Gambia where > every one should live in liberty dignity and prosperity. I believe in an > enlightened Gambia. I believe in the Gambia where Presidential monarchy is > demystified. I believe in The Gambia where > every one say no > to exploitation, no to servitude, no to degradation, no to > cowardice, no to political bullying, no to dictatorship, no to megalomania, no > to tribalism, no to nepotism, no to opportunism and no to poverty. I > believe in The Gambia where there is equal opportunity for all. I believe in > my life time of in the life time of my grand children this will happen. > > > Members of the L we are all working > towards the common good of The Gambia. We will ever be true to The Gambia. It > is time that we start working for The Gambia. It is time we throw away the > vices of tribal sentiments and concentrate on the national interest. It is > time for honest leaders to emerge to at least to support the honest and brave > ones we have at the moment. 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