Evian,
 
I didn't know you got such a warped sense of propriety.
 
[In a message dated 4/23/2009 6:15:52 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
Listen! Who is talking about sending SPAM on this forum? Life is so full of contradictions.
Billai, Walai, Talai.] Evian.
 
Haruna, send SPAM???? What do you take SPAM to be Evian??? You're a sick man.
And what have I ever done at Ellen that comes close to SPAMMING???

[I believe that Muhammed Drammeh betrayed his own guidelines. Drammeh initially advised that Ousainou should not be deemed to be a coward for seeking sanctuary at the Senegalese High Commission but then not not only did he, Drammeh, subsequently personally try to prosecute Ousainou he ultimately went to the extent of sentencing Ousainou to life on the 'Island-of-no-return-from-cowardice'.] Evian.
 
And what do you call that??? Temporary insanity or bipolar disposition??? Either way, Dramane is therefore not fit to communicate with us here until he gets help for his condition. Subscription at Ellen presumes sound body and mind.
 
[Seriously, If Ousainou were a coward or a selfish opportunist, he would have by now joined the APRC regime in some capacity. Nonetheless;] Evian.
 
How so? What does that have to do with cowardice or bravery?
 
[Ousainou is better advised to publicly stand up more against the abuses of  power by Jammeh and his cohorts. This is what is expected of the leader of any opposition party, much more so from that of the largest opposition party in The Gambia.] Evian.
 
And what is Ousainou doing every day of his life???? You don't even know what standing up to Yahya or abuse looks like if it were to hit you upside the head.  You think writing a letter to Yahya is standing up to him???? Very funny.

[I suppose Muhammed could have been angered by the veiled and open personal attacks and insinuations against Halifa Sallah but that's simply no excuse to follow in the footsteps of the perpetrators. Two wrongs cannot make it right.] Evian.
 
And where are the veiled and open personal attacks and insinuations against Halifa Sallah??? Just because you are confused doesn't mean your dreams have come true Evian.

[Finally, I believe that Grand dad Masoud Haruna Darboe is only in support of Malanding's decision against Drammeh because of Drammeh's castigation of Ousainou Darboe.] Evian.
 
NO. You believed wrong.
 
[The same Haruna would have been praising the Lord and probably also singing 'Sonnah Mariama Woh' had Muhammed Drammeh's tirades been directed against Comrade Halifa,] Evian.
 
No. You're wrong again.
 
[the Freedom Fighter that Haruna loves to hate.] Evian.
 
Which Freedom Fighter???? And no I do not love to hate Halifa or hate to love him.
 
[Sheer Double Standards!] Evian.
 
I know.
 
[I was taught that a good person must strive to refrain from resorting to double standards except on the basis of merit.] Evian.
 
Evian, how can a good person resort to double standards based on merit????????????
Is it ever ok to resort to double standards????? You PDOISards got work to do on yourselves. Forget Halifa. You guys and gals are the ones who need help. No wonder PDOIS cannot gain ground despite all their efforts. Men. Do y'all ever reflect on yourselves Evian??? I say an inventory of the rank and file is due. How do we know there are not crazies in PDOIS who would not seek assistance from Campama for pride and fear of malnutrition sakes??? If I ever join PDOIS, I'm sending a good number of you guys to the insane asylum. That's probably why I haven't been imbited to join PDOIS. You're lucky. 

[Haruna, What is sauce for the goose must also be for the gander. Tu comprendez?!] Evian.
Bah Oui. Haruna.

Bailo

--- On Thu, 23/4/09, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Justice for Muhammed Drammeh
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Thursday, 23 April, 2009, 3:28 PM

JDAM,
 
I am awake even when I'm asleep. I'm like Yahya on that score.
 
And I can't believe you're crying about "INJUSTICE" for Dramane. Like you, I cherish freedom of speech and expression no matter how perverse. Because perversity itself is a matter of perception. No it is not about Dramane's right to the cherished freedoms. Dramane has gone over that bound when he started sending multiple identical salvos all trained on insulting a singular person Ousainou, the leader of a majority party in Gambia. Dramane was not accusing Ousainou of a crime or sharing his thoughts about a crime Ousainou committed. Dramane was engaged in SPAM, a violation of Ellen's code of conduct and therefore risks denying the rest of us realising a modicum of value from Ellen. Ellen is not Posten. I encourage Dramane to go back to Posten where he began his witch-hunting via SPAM. I am not sure Posten will condone that activity. I could be mistaken however. Nevertheless, Dramane seemed to begin by soliciting views on Ousainou's person. That effort ever so surreptitiously transmogrified into brazen insults and SPAM in total disregard to the rights of others to peaceably enjoy Ellen. Ellen is no place for SPAM.
 
So even if Dr. Jaiteh did not de-list Dramane, I am confident Ellen's listserv and host will discontinue the honour of providing the generous service for us. Ellen is not property of PDOISdrones JDAM.
 
And how could my name come up in your search for a watchman???? Do I look like a nocturnal herbivore???? Please. You disappoint me. And Mali or no Mali, I am always friggin awake. I couldn't care less if Dramane is watchman. I do not think he possesses the requisite acumen of the vrai Watchman. You sell the Watchman short on that score. Who is to say you're not the Watchman??? Nay, you are too honourable for banter of lowly creatures.
 
May we add you to the GESO revival team conversation???? Pretty please??
 
Haruna. 
 
In a message dated 4/23/2009 4:50:04 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:
Malangding
 
I know even our Malian friend - unless he is the elusive Watchman who just ran off that insufferable Ethiopian apologist for tyranny in The Gambia - must be in the very early hours of the US day, and as such, I do not expect a response for several hours. By the way, Haruna was suggested as a candidate, but his temperament, specialism, and dictum appears different from that of the Watchman, with the latter's milieu covering the broad sweep of western history from Antiquity, through the Renaissance, and Enlightenment, to the modern day democratic citadels where the refinements of those ideas are being continually practicalsied in the political realm. I don't suppose you know The Watchman, but let us know if you have any ideas who s/he is. 
 
Back to Drammeh, and the subject matter of this query. Is Drammeh's problem one of posting quota, as Mr Mali regularly cries about, or is he suspended/delisted for his views on Ousainou Darboe?  If the latter, I urge you to reconvene yourself, or the pertinent Committee, and reinstate his rights. We won't be a complete society without embracing all shades of view, and contrary to my respected political activist - Mballow - conversations around national issues should be as vigorous as possible. No matter how hurtful they may be, I reject the notion that serious national efforts are likely to collapse from the weight of a few verbal salvos. In any case, Drammeh met his match in Yanks, and I am angry at you for taking away a deevloping entertainment.
 
Please reconsider your decision on Drammeh. May be he knows The Watchman who drove the proxy Gambian, Dida Halake, from online Gambia.
 
 
 
 
 
LJDarbo

--- On Wed, 22/4/09, Baba Galleh Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: Baba Galleh Jallow <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Justice for Muhammed Drammeh
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Wednesday, 22 April, 2009, 4:32 PM

Dear Mr. Drammeh,
 
Yesterday I expressed the fact that I do not wish to get involved in your debate or the controversy surrounding it. Only the Gambi-L managers can help you out. I hope you understand my position. Thanks.
 
Baba
 

Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2009 08:17:31 -0700
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Justice for Muhammed Drammeh
To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
CC: [log in to unmask]

Dear All,
 
Can you interven so that I can send my contributions to the L? I have been denied that opportunity by the list managers. Please help!!!!!!

Muhammad Bai Drammeh Bin Alhagie Sheihu Muhammad Lamin Drammeh Bin Muhammad Kanday Drammeh bin Muhammad Kissima Drammeh bin Foday Drammeh



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