Once the Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) passed by a man who was admonishing his brother regarding Haya and was saying, 'You are very shy, and I am afraid that might harm you.' On that, Allah's Apostle said, 'Leave him, for Haya is (a part) of Faith.' [Bukhari]I think this is where
the Hadith ended.
And [Haya is translated as modesty but includes self-respect, bashfulness, having
scruples, having awareness of Allah].
I didn't see shy in there. The man is about to lose his wife on account of his
undue shyness. Jah, I just wanted you to add some more discernmets like only
you can. You know we have impressionable minds like Mams. If you don't clear up
the confusion, he will remain silent with an oppressed mind from here on in.
I'm just saying. I am your companion in this journey remmember. I am not challenging
you or the writer. I don't even know when the forward ends and when you start speaking.
Forgive me for any anxiety. Remember Miranda tells us we can plead the 5th and that we
have a right to remain silent. That is when we are suspected of crime and arrested.
SO I wanted you to distinguish this restraint from demure modesty. Jah don't worry we
are in this together. Haruna. I will never challenge you on a Hadith. You have my word
on it.20Don't be so sensitive like Suntou.
From: Edi Jah <[log in to unmask]>
Mr Darbo, As I said here before this series is not my work, I only forward it here. To my understanding, the writer is not ''equating Shyness (for whatever reason) with modesty and moral restraint''. As the writer said ''Haya is translated as modesty but it includes all of the following meanings as well: self respect, bashfulness, having scruples, having awareness of Allah''. So if you swap haya for modesty & moral restraint, you will not capture the whole message. What you interpret as a restrained voice, could be interpreted differently by others. I am sure some of the writers on this forum are shy, but that will not stop them adding their two pence when they want to or find it necessary. Lost in translation, I thought you speak Arabic. Cheers, Edi Jah On 10/06/2009, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Jah, I like the Hadith but I encourage you to refine it a bit further. I > seem to get the impression you're equating Shyness (for whatever reason) > with modesty and moral restr aint. The brother could have been accmpanying > his sibling to ask fo the girl's hand in marriage. Ad he ws indifferently > shy. I look forward to more on this Wuld Ammi. Thanx for sharing. A > restrained voice is a burdened one. For whatever consideration. Haruna. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Edi Jah <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 8:17 am > Subject: Fwd: Daily Hadith - A Goodness Through and Through > > > > A Goodness Through and Through > > asul Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: “Modesty is a virtue > hrough and through, or said: Modesty is a goodness complete.” > Muslim] > Once the Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) passed by a man who was > dmonishing his brother regarding Haya and was saying, 'You are very > hy, and I am afraid that might harm you.' On that, Allah's Apostle > aid, 'Leave him, for Haya is (a part) of Faith.' [Bukhari] > This hadith tells us that there is nothing bad about modesty. > herefore, if something is purely good, then however much you have of > t, it can only be good for you. This is something to especially > emember in these times when ‘moral’ and ‘modest’ are portrayed as > backward,’ ‘oppressed' and 'under-confident.’ > A person with Haya does not show off his mind, body, or anything else. > aya is translated as modesty but > it includes all of the following > eanings as well: self respect, bashfulness, having scruples, having > wareness of Allah. This word is a prime example of how much is lost > n translation from Arabic to any other language.
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