I lov ou Jah. Bilal. That's it. You can be so friggin funny when you wanna be. Evian is pulling you ever so slowly into that ditch of his. Be careful. I think you're great men. Haruna. -----Original Message----- From: Edi Jah <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 8:37 pm Subject: Re: Daily Hadith - A Goodness Through and Through Bailo, Thanks for the heads-up, please warn me if you see him coming. Maybe e wants to set up home in the Malian desert then; and turn all of us nto turban wearing, french speaking Tuaregs, Mbakoko. Just joking, lease don't aim at me my good friend. Edi On 11/06/2009, bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Edi, Haruna only understands broken Arabic from years of forced labour in Jamahiriyan Desert camps. Mind you, I gathered he is a Markman though. He could have been of better service to Gambians. Just joking! Bailo --- On Thu, 11/6/09, Edi Jah <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Edi Jah <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Daily Hadith - A Goodness Through and Through To: [log in to unmask] Date: Thursday, 11 June, 2009, 12:50 AM Mr Darbo, As I said here before this series is not my work, I only forward it here. To my understanding, the writer is not ''equating Shyness (for whatever reason) with modesty and moral restraint''. As the writer said ''Haya is translated as modesty but it includes all of the following meanings as well: self respect, bashfulness, having scruples,=2 0having awareness of Allah''. So if you swap haya for modesty & moral restraint, you will not capture the whole message. What you interpret as a restrained voice, could be interpreted differently by others. I am sure some of the writers on this forum are shy, but that will not stop them adding their two pence when they want to or find it necessary. Lost in translation, I thought you speak Arabic. Cheers, Edi Jah On 10/06/2009, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Jah, I like the Hadith but I encourage you to refine it a bit further. I > seem to get the impression you're equating Shyness (for whatever reason) > with modesty and moral restraint. The brother could have been accmpanying > his sibling to ask fo the girl's hand in marriage. Ad he ws indifferently > shy. I look forward to more on this Wuld Ammi. Thanx for sharing. A > restrained voice is a burdened one. For whatever consideration. Haruna. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Edi Jah <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Wed, 10 Jun 2009 8:17 am > Subject: Fwd: Daily Hadith - A Goodness Through and Through > > > > A Goodness Through and Through > > asul Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: “Modesty is a virtue > hrough and through, or said: Modesty is a goodness complete.� > Muslim] > Once the Prophet (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) passed by a man who was > dmonishing his brother regarding Haya and was saying, 'You are very > hy, and I am afra id that might harm you.' On that, Allah's Apostle > aid, 'Leave him, for Haya is (a part) of Faith.' [Bukhari] > This hadith tells us that there is nothing bad about modesty. > herefore, if something is purely good, then however much you have of > t, it can only be good for you. This is something to especially > emember in these times when ‘moral’ and ‘modest’ are portrayed as > backward,’ ‘oppressed' and 'under-confident.’ > A person with Haya does not show off his mind, body, or anything else. > aya is translated as modesty but > it includes all of the following > eanings as well: self respect, bashfulness, having scruples, having > wareness of Allah. 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