I am Kejau from Posten, as you said, from Gambia, obviously. The rest are personal as I do not know you, nor should you know whether I am married or the grade of my child. I have met some of your prophets and hereby rest my case. I am not continuing this debate anymore. Delist me if you wish. but call me my name, please and I wish to avoid argumentation as adviced from daily hadith and thats my prerogative, as it is yours to worship who you please, but with due respect to the rest of us Muslings and Christians, etc.

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From: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Haruna Darbo

To: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:GAMBIA-L @LISTSERV.ICORS.ORG">[log in to unmask]

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 11:39 PM

Subject: Re: Daily Hadith: Avoiding Argumentation

Ok. So who are you. Really? Where are you from, Afrika? Are you of major age? Major age being 18 at Ellen. Are you married? DO you hae children? Are they of school-going age and what grade level are they? What is your religion? Who are your prophets? What type of house do you worship God in? What country do you now reside in?

I want you to know I am neither a CHristian nor a Musling. I have many prophets some of who are:
Me myself and I
My Children
My parents
ATT
Uncle Ousainou
Lenrie Peters (AGUH)
Hassan Musa
Uncle Halifa
Uncle Sidia
Karamba
President Obama
President Carter
Niamorkono
JDAM
Kukeh
Bilal
Galleh
James Ndow
Suntouni
Mams
Jabou
Kaybehtoh
Saiks (Where's that guy anyway?)
Bai Beran Sarr
Ndambu
ML Sillah
Mr. Kanyi
Kanyibaa Kanyi
Laye
Pa Pierre
Camara Laye
The African CHild
PM Sidibeh
Karim Wade
Evian
Caesar
Olfactor
Saihou Mballow
Sanusi
Dr. Saine
Yero
Demba
Ginny
Dukureh The Amarikan
Charlo
Father Mose
Banka (Ballero)
Dave
Sukuta
FJC
Saal
Dibassey
Dibba
Mariama
Saloum
Muhammad (Gaddafi)
Al Hussein
Fodeba
Yanks
Yanks
Yanks
Lamin
Cherno/Jados
Mams
Sana
Bani
And this is by no means an exhaustive list. I'm just saying.

I look forward eagerly to your answers.

-----Original Message-----
From: Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask] .ORG
Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2009 5:52 pm
Subject: Re: Daily Hadith: Avoiding Argumentation
Haruna,

I apologise for calling you Ruin, since you dont like it and I might take your advice and go away or introduce myself. I hope and pray that you use your immense energy and intelligence to help us get rid of our Satan, Yaya Jammeh. That may explain my reaction. I advice, if I am to take yours, that you build bridges with likeminded folks, for the sake of freedom, God and country. That is why I am here, for God and country, inter alia! I apologise for jumping like a poncurpine.
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From: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Haruna Darbo

To:< /B> [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]

Sent: Tuesday, June 30, 2009 3:21 PM

Subject: Re: Daily Hadith: Avoiding Argumentation

Kaybehtoh,
You could be right. Maybe if we try this another way you can educate us a bit further.

[-----Original Message----- From: Kejau Touray [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Tue, Jun 30, 2009 2:53 am Subject: Re: Daily Hadith: Avoiding Argumentation

Oh yes I know you Haruna Darboe and you know me.] Kaybehtoh.

I do know you call yourself Kejau and I don't think it does you justice. no pun intended. So you are now Kaybehtoh. I think.

[FYI blasphemy is talking shit about our religion,] Kaybehtoh.

Settle down. First things first. Meantime, ask your oustaz what Blasphemy is? What is your religion?

[our prophet] Kaybehtoh.

Who is your prophet?

[and our mosques] Kaybehtoh.

WHere are your mosques? How did they become "your" mosques Kaybehtoh?

[and churches] Kaybehtoh.

And where are your churches? How did they become your churches? And which is your religion?

[and not subscribing to any oof your Goddamned religions,] Kaybehtoh.

How20do you know the other religions are God-damned? Blasphemy??? Should you seek legal and psychological counsel. If your religion is Islam, Do you worship Allah in both mosques and churches? Why and or why not?

[hence my intial advice for you to seek legal counsel,] Kaybehtoh.

Don't get ahead of yours elf. WHo do yo u think you are?

[as my Oustas said: a little knowledge is dangerous, for you cannot know everything, Ruins!.] Kaybehtoh.

That makes two of us. And don't call me RUins. I don't like it. Don't piss me off already.

[I was here years ago,] Kaybehtoh.

WHere? Our community comprises folk not a place. And besides Ellen is a virtual place. We make it a community. So where were you years ago?

[and came back,] Kaybehtoh.

Where did you come back to?

[do I need an introduction, no!] Kaybehtoh.

Yes you do need an introduction to us. If you think Ellen is an endroit, and you were there, then you left, whether or not ownership of the property has changed, you are best advised to re-introduce yourself for grace. Otherwise, you have no claim to our "blasphemies". You do not have the locus standi.

[So follow your path and I follow mine.] Kaybehtoh.

Are you sure you want to allow me to follow my path? I couldn't care less what you follow.

[La Kumdinikum walyadeen....] Kaybehtoh.

Are you sure you know what the immediat e above means?????????? That is the $64,000.00 question.

[You think you are the only being here?] Kaybehtoh.

NO. We have Mams, Laye, Evian, JDAM, Bilal, Galleh, Caesar, Jabou, Kukeh, CHerno, Bala Musa, Karim, Pa Pierre, CHerno/Jados, Ginny, Niamorkono, Yours truly, Dukuray, Ma riama, Suntouni,=2 0Ma Yero, Father Mose. And then we have you. Who are you????

[You can ramble for hours and if anyone attempt a respond you go emotional and insulting. Def ol!] Kaybehtoh.

What does this have to do with you introducing yourself to us first????? And I'm a rambling wreck. If you were among us you should have known that. And after you know that, it should not be significant to you until you piss me off.

[Am here to stay and behind your slimy back I am gonna be, to point out your transgression and blasphemous tendencies.] Kaybehtoh.

OK you can stay here. But you cannot be in our community until you introduce yourself to us. And my back is not the least bit slimy. Transgression and Blasphemous tendencies?????? You like Mullah words don't you??? Well we'll educate you on what they really mean. I'll make keys for those shackles on your ankles. You are not properly educated. Stay with me here since you insist. We may end up making you a better person despite yourself. Remmember you and I will not throw tantrums yet. Until you piss me off. And that will probably take eternity for you.

[I was grateful to God for your second posting] Kaybehtoh.

I don't understand. What about my second notes is different from my pioneer notes on the issue of Shayateen??? Who is your Oustaz anyway? Or do you even have one?

[but disappointed just now.] Kaybehtoh.

Wonder why?

[I did not come here to please you, or anyone for that matter,] Kaybehtoh.

This is not the proper place to please me Kaybehtoh. WHen you volunteer or give to the Red Crescent or Red Cross, then you will please me. How's about it?

[I am here to exercise my freedom to associate and express myself.] Kaybehtoh.

With yourself???????? And I suppose the folk you found here do not have those freedoms.

[Everything is law dimwit!] Kaybehtoh.

And everything in that law is your religion and prophet. No wonder you perceive folk blaspheming all over the place. You are not making much sense Kaybehtoh. I mean I enjoined in the fight against Shayateen. I also proposed to share my religion. Then you jump up and down and contorted yourself in an immense ball like a porcupine ready to defend your religion and prophet (which we are yet to understand and acknowledge). Then a cool breeze wafted through the fangs. You unfurled to share with us that you were grateful to God for the breeze. And all of a sudden you tell us you are disappointed again by yours truly, a man who loves you immensely. What is your friggin problem????? You are a boat load of unrecognizable emoticons. Blasphemy my arse. The greatest blasphemer is he who cannot identify his religion, prophet, or house of worship. WHy don't you just calm down a bit and take advantage of this great community to educate and better yourself. Or we'll kick you o ut. Of the place its elf. WHo in the hell left Campama's gates open?????????? I love you men. I really do. (AGUH) Haruna. Now go away. Just don't join Evian in the concentric ditches. The big Dinko. Olfactor is there too. If you were part of our community, you would have known about Lochdinko.

----- Original Message -----

From: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Haruna Darbo

To: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]

Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 11:47 PM

Subject: Re: Daily Hadith: Avoiding Argumentation

Kaybehtoh, what're you mumbling in your moustache????
JDAM can perceive better investment of his valuable time. You hold your own briefs with Shayateen gaddamit. You get too easily excited. This is not a matter of law yet. It is laziness of retards. WHen you said Astaghfurullaah, what were you thunking? And Bilal already shared with us that Shayateen were Allah's creation/s. Somebody needs to keep shackles on you. In case you wanna jump up again for no friggin reason. And I thought you were at Posten . Only sober communicatio n takes place here. Or you can go back to where you came from. ANd did you introduce yourself to us yet???? NO. Well what're you waitin for??? FYI, you have to subscribe to cockamayme religions before you are deemed blasphemous of any. Kulen Baye??? I know JDAM encouraged you to read law but I don't wanna see your behind near a law school. You're better off reading Taliban law. I am very disapponted in you. ANd I am not terribly pleased with you. When you invite yourself to a community gathering, the honourable thing to do is to introduce yourself first. Do you know who you're talking to? Haruna. Trying to trivialize earth-shattering matter. Quel connerie!!

-----Original Message-----
From: Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Mon, Jun 29, 2009 5:42 pm
Subject: Re: Daily Hadith: Avoiding Argumentation

Thank God, I thought Sat an was your mate. Last time I checked blasphemy is still a crime covering all religions in=2 0US, unlike UK, where only the Christian faith presently enjoys that privilege. We might need to seek brief from LJD!

----- Original Message -----

From: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">Haruna Darbo

To: [log in to unmask] href="mailto:[log in to unmask]">[log in to unmask]

Sent: Sunday, June 28, 2009 5:21 PM

Subject: Re: Daily Hadith: Avoiding Argumentation

[-----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sun, Jun 28, 2009 10:02 am Subject: Re: Daily Hadith: Avoiding Argumentation

Here comes a more religious idiot; Haruiner, I really understand your point and
I have to admit, everyone is entitled to their on opinion whether or not is accepted by others.] Mams.
Mams don't worry. Bilal, yourself, Laye, Kejau, Ginny, Mar iama, JDAM, yours truly, and Karim are all
made from the same cloth. It is a patchwork quilt of indeterminate geometry and contour. I think you
have legitimate queries. Have had for a long time. Bilal and myself only differ from you in method but not in
substance. We will converge readily.

I thought your=2 0position merits highlighting so I have reproduced your s ynopsis here:

[In a message dated 6/28/2009 10:02:37 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes:From these arguments, I came to a conclusion that all religions are the same, with one God of different names. We are made to be dictators through the religious principles whereby many families will never let their children and wives to express themselves freely or have a voice in common decision making. We were en slaved through religions whereby you have to accept what is written in Quraan or Bible and their hadiths without complaining to avoid hell fire. I Believe in God but still have doubts about the religions. some will argue that (how can you believe in God's assistance and fail to believe His words)? I will respond; how can I know they are the veritable words of God? especially if as God changes the world, Religions buck divine dynamism. Edie] Mams.

Mams, I have culled this synopsis from your soliloquy below. Please excuse my erstwhile meddling there-in. Laye and Kejau, The didctators, dipstickators, fornicators, pathogens, viruses, thieves, rapists, murderers, philanderers, their jesters, etc. are the Shayateens.
I encourage you guys20and Mams to accompany Bilal and me on the eternal jour ney toward Mu'Umin. Haruna. I am taking my guest presently
to the Georgia Aquarium but I shall return. Don't forget Brazil plays USA soccer today. Check for local listings and schedule.

I also think the same way because it seems it is the same kind of politic the
west imposed on us that we still cannot free ourselves from. Earlier, I insist
on the fact that Bamba and Tejania religions could be the one God created for
black Muslims hence with those, we will feel more accepted and welcome than
Arab's religion that have once enslave us and still do not recognised us like
the white people do.

Somalia and other Muslim countries had and still having problems, how many
Islamic countries took greater amount of refugees or helping them financially
than the west did and still doing? If we however, believed everything in this
world is created by God and we also believe that God is never mistaking in
His creation, we should also believe whatever God creates is meant to be
use by human and any other cr eated; if not, it will not be created. It is human
who is always mistaking by over doing things to harm themselves on the
process.

Ok it could also be that it was shaytaan who demanded the creation to does
forbidding thing as a tools of power to influence others in avoiding to
be in hell fire20alone. Then again if God accepted that for-example; He is=2 0creating
competition for Himself because every creation wanted to be love by the
creator therefore The Creator should prevent and disallow others to take advantage
or make full of His or Her Creations

He gave us eyes to look at his creations and thank Him for their created, anything
that God don't want us to see will not be created why because He LOVE us even
He knows we don't love ourselves by not using our brains and senses to make
limitation in consuming His20created.

Is there a hidden agenda that God said about black people they don't want us to
know? In the Quran, there is nothing sinister or suspicious everything is clearly
written but contradicted with the action of the Arab people towards black people.

From these arguments, I came to a conclusion that all religion are the same
with one God of different names. We are made to be dictators through the
religions principles whereby many families will never let their children and
w ives to have voice in decision makings, we were enslaved through religions
whereby you have to accept what is written in Quraan or Bible and their hadiths
without complaining to avoid going to hell fire. I Believe in God but still have doubt
on the religions. some will argue that (how can you believe in God's assistance and
fail to believe His words)? I will respond how=2 0can I know they are the
true words from God; if God is changing the world yet the systems stay the same.
Edie

--- On Sun, 28/6/09, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Daily Hadith: Avoiding Argumentation
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Sunday, 28 June,202009, 4:25 AM

Muslim lawyers are screwed then. JDAM are a musling??? Damned if you do, Damned if you don't. Wait a minute. What did RasuluLLaah say about those who argue when they are right or wrong? Or those who argue for the indigenct of law? And how do you know you're wrong or right anyway??? I need some explanations from this Tirmidhi guy. And what I waan know is "Is Paradise beach located on the edge, in the middle, or at the apex (crater beach)? Thanx again Bilal for sharing.20These people screw us over and then tell us we can't argue with them. I know. Just like the other day, I was engaged in a heated conversation with a Musling. He tells me Muhammad is the seal of prophets. That no other prophet will come after Muhammad. I told him that's easy for Muslims to say. I told him we have our own prophets in Gambia and the US and we continue to have them. Don't get me wrong20Muhammad is a good guy, but I'm sure Muhammad didn't tell=2 0these knuckleheads that he were a prophet for all the world. None of the other prophets said that either. They knew the limits of their influences. And Muhammad's core teachings are those of modesty.

I have completed design of a way for Gambians to pray should they wish to worship Allah that way. I will develop prayers to go along with it that can be translated into all the languages of the world including Arabic and English. The prayer, to be done twice a day (break of dawn and at dusk), includes an array of Kalistenics. I shall sh are it here in due course. I received it from God/Allah in a dream.
Haruna. Limaa baina yadayya min thawraati wamubashira, birasoolin Ya'Atee min ba'adee Asmuhu Ahmad, Falammaa Jaa'Ahum bilbayyinaati, Khaaloo haathaa Sihrun Mubeenun. I know they were'nt relying on this.

-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Sat, Jun 27, 2009 4:2020pm
Subject: Fwd: Daily Hadith: Avoiding Argumentation

Avoiding Argumentation Rasul Allah (sal Allahu alaihi wa sallam) said: â€œWhoever does no t argue when he is in the wrong will have a home built for him20on the edge of Paradise. Whoever avoids it when he in the right will have a home built for him in the middle of Paradise. And whoever improves his own character, a home will be built for him in the highest part of Paradise.â€� [Tirmidhi] Arguing with people is strongly discouraged in Islam. We are to state our point of view and then leave it at that. Nor are we to involve ourselves in matters that do not affect a personâ€™s deen. Note that a person is to shun argumen t whether he is in the right or whether his stand is wrong. Both get houses built for them in Paradise. But since the person who knows that he is right finds i t more difficult to leave the argument and let things be, he/she is promised a greater reward. Arguing with people rarely gets anyone to change their minds. It usually only produces defensiveness and creates ill feelings between people. The issue becomes a matter of oneâ€™s ego and makes it more difficult for a person to change their stance. Allah (subhana wa taâ€™ala) lo ves to have Muslims live harmoniously with each other. Try this hadith out in practice, and you will see that your relations improve with people and=2 0that you have greater peace of mind. Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] Â¤Â4Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤ÂA 4Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤ 2¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤Â¤

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