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Haruna Darbo,Good morning] Mr. Touray. Back at you Mr. Touray. You can call me Mr. Darbo. [Given the current political climate in the Gambia, I think the question should not be about whether or not the Gambia opposition can unite behind a competent leader.] Mr. T I agree with you. Really. That is why when Evian shared that obvious, I ascended to it and suggested that that premise is our starting point. It is moot. Therefore repeating it ad-infinitum is not valuable to advance the conversation. Eve n without being given the current political climate in Gambia. That premise is still valid and moot. I am pleased you also recognize that the current if natural advantage of a political climate is a given. Has been since 1994. Your qualifier "competent" I think ought to be the purview of the led wouldn't you think? Why burden your postulation so? Leader presumes competence for the led unless you assert the led is clueless and therefore the tyrant will determine competence of their leader for them. When you postulate, do not assume folk understand what you mean especially in more august conversation. It is clueless ambiguity that derailed your opportunities. Try to be a bit more precise. [We have seen that happen in many places in the world.] Mr. Touray. I don't understand. We have seen what happen all over the world. Please inform us further. [The question should be about whether or not our opposition leaders are ready to stand up to the challenge.] Mr. T What challenge? [If their goal is to improve the wellbeing of the Gambian people, they must unite to achieve this noble goal.] Mr. T There you go again with this UNITE sermon. What do you mean by UNITE? I am getting worried here about you confusing all of us all over again. [How could they blow up the chance we had in 2006?] Mr. T The chance we had in 2006 was the same chance we had in 2003 and all years prior up to 1994. The chance does not change. It is magnified after each succeeding minute. While we languish in ambiguous sermon. [How many innocent Gambians have been arrested, detained, tortured, and harassed by the government between 2006 and now?] Mr. T I lost count. Our Suntou and Laye were gonna attempt to catalog that. [Many times these victims are not the opposition leaders, but innocent Gambian citizens who are often their supporters.] Mr. T I beg to differ Mr. T. The opposition leaders as well as their supporters have borne the brunt of Yahya. That is why they formed opposition parties. The status-quo was unacceptable and untenable for any Gambian. So don't separate the opposition leaders from their supporters. What you envisage is chaos and mob-rule. [Worst still, the opposition leaders rarely demand justice for these victims. They languish in filthy detention centers across the country.] Mr. T. If the opposition leaders come from the oppressed masses and they are still oppressed themselves, how can you find them guilty for indifference Mr. T? This is not healthy. [Does one man’s ambition to rule the Gambia more important than a united front to change this dangerous path the Gambia is set on?] Mr. T NO. I presume you are talking about Yahya aren't you? This is not clear because I don't see anyone holding brief for Yahya's claim to continued leadership.=2 0And if any opposition leader does not have ambition to lead Gambia, I suggest their partisans tie them up and choose another leader. And if any of them have ambition to lead Gambia as an alternative to Yahya leading your behind, And a coalition is the most reasonable way for them to come closer to leading Gambia, why on earth would leadership of Gambia and coalescing of fortunes be mutually exclusive. Mr. T are you alright? What're you talking about? Unawares, you share with us that you want the opposition to "unite" and that the "union" must be led by any one of them. Then you share with us your fear that one particular opposition party leader is infirmed of mind because even though he/she wishes to be leader of Gambia, he/she does not wish to be elected leader. Do you see the automatic confusion Mr. T???? The road to national leadership begins with the leadership of a political party. If any of the opposition leaders tells you or feigns to you that they do not desire to lead Gambia, show them the way to Campama. Or tell them you're late for home. That you need to run. [We will not forgive the opposition leaders for their failure to exploit the best opportunity we had in so many years.] Mr. T So you create an artificial enemy for yourself,=2 0you try to divorce them from their supporters, you try to impose more competent leader for them, and to cap the cockamayme scheme, you ask them to friggin unite. What is wrong with you? Don't you see how you're turning into Yahya unawares yourself? [Many of us don’t accept the fact that under current conditions, no single opposition party in the Gambia can defeat the APRC.] Mr. T. Mr. T I don't understand you very well. Forget the earlier confusions. This one is the kicker. Many of us DON'T ACCEPT the FACT that under current conditions, NO SINGLE OPPOSITION PARTY in Gambia can DEFEAT the APRC. I think you meant to share that ALL of us ACCEPT the fact that NO SINGLE OPPOSITION PARTY by itself can remove Yahya from the presidency of Gambia. Don't you? While you ponder what you really intended to convey, I caution you against substituting Yahya with APRC. As we continue this conversation, we must by default accept that APRC is as much a victim of Yahya as the opposition parties are. Do you believe that? If you don't believe that, you are engaged in a massive waste of time calling for a "UNION" of opposition parties. This singular premise of collective derision of APRC is eating away at your erstwhile diligences. I think you need to get your brains checked. At Campama. Just to be sure. Or reconnoitre right. [Therefore the most practical cause of action is for the opposition to unite under one umbrella and challenge the APRC, by insisting on rule of law a nd fair play.] Mr. T As I suspected, you made an error in grammar. Now that you have inadvertently corrected the error, you share with us you want the opposition to unite under one umbrella. Are you saying you want a COALESCING of Opposition fortunes to prosecute the upcoming elections with one leader or is this another error in sermon???? If you mean what I suspect, and you agree that any of the opposition leaders is capable of leading the Gambia, but that you think all of them wish to be leader and ONE of them wishes to lead Gambia at the expense of a coalition that stands the best chance of removing Yahya, (therefore infirmed of mind), and denegrading the partisans of that individual, are you not saying that you desire the rest of the opposition to unite around one of the remaining opposition leaders and prosecute the elections and forgo the votes of the delinquent leader????????? And going by your claim that the cumulative votes of the opposition parties stands the best chance of removing Yahya, you want to push ahead ceding votes to Yahya. Are you sure you want a coalition of opposition parties to prosecute an election???????????????? That is the $64,000.00 question and believe it or not, that is what is playing on your conscience. Do you agree? Or at least do you agree that your scheme would not get past the first phase for conflicted reasoning sakes????????????????? I presume then that you mean Ousainou to be the delinquent leader who is by default infirmed of mind. It gets more complicated. More Gambians desire Ousainou to lead them (UDP). Some have been saved from the clutches of Yahya by Ousainou, from their summary execution, forget oppression. Hon. Hamat of NRP had seen value in forming an alliance with UDP. So now we have UDP/NRP. Combined, their votes exceed the votes of APRC, NADD, GMC. So assuming your premise is valid that Ousainou wishes to lead Gambia but that he desires to remove Yahya sans a coalition of opposition fortunes, you will agree with me that if Ousainou were to drop dead today (I know you're probably not hoping for that because Yahya will have free unmitigated reign on your behind), you will still not have a viable coalition without UDP/NRP votes or without a serious consideration that Hon. Hamat lead the prospective coalition. Your arithemetic is suspect. Can you accept Hon. Hamat leading the coalition????? If you can, we stand a better chance of appealing to Ousainou to nominate Hon. Hamat as UDP/NRP leader than forming a coalition. Don't forget that a Hamat-led UDP/NRP must still negotiate with NAgotacluewhatitis and GMC. You may want to speak with PDOIS to s ee if they can stomach that. [A united front will give birth to a formidable force that will not only win the election, but also set the stage for elaborate rectification to prevent the current status quo from returning.] Mr. T. Mr. T, whenever I hear the words "elaborate rectification", I run away from the politburo. Your elaborate rectification is the subtraction of APRC, UDP, NRP, GMC, PPP. Forget NDAM. What're you gonna rectify without the citizens, and with your 2 percenters?????? That is miniYahya. It doesn't even have the gumption to be full Yahya. [I think all the opposition leaders should approach the negotiations for a united front without preconditions.] Mr. T Are you sure??????????????????????????????????????????????? Because if you are, you are doing away with the MOU that encumbered your previous NADD. Talk about elaborate rectification before you get ahold of the oars. Burdensome, self-righteous fosse indignation, lethargic engineering, and the whole nine yards. I love you though despite yourself. [Furthermore, I don’t think subjective judgment about which party is strong or weak is relevant at this time.] Mr. T. What I shared with you were the extant conditions. I know you have your big head buried in the potopoto and you=2 0want to take us on another wild goose chase only to give us another untenable MOU. I will go along when you have your head examined. No not at MRC. Campama. [The synergy that would emerge from a united front would be stronger than any single party’s competencies. In fact, the urgency of the time requires us to act swiftly or risk further disintegration of our society. What is it going to be? Are we going to use the internet to make mockery of those on the ground resisting the current status quo, or are we going to use our collective wisdom to bring the opposition together for a higher moral cause? Each of us has a responsibility! Thanks ML] Mr. T Mr. T, do you believe what you say or do you like to talk to yourself often? You sound like John McCain. The Republicans wanted us to fear what we will have in Obama after Bush. That was before Madoff, AIG, Goldman Sachs, Sanford, Encin, Palin, Iraqi Sovereignty, etcetera. Ordinarily I would ask who the people are before I engage them in conversation, but for you that is not necessary. Tiger is at Turnberry. I wonder if you like or follow golf Mr. T. Whatever happened to the van? Haruna. I see a silver lining in your schemes though. --- On Wed, 7/15/09, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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