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This is the bible narration, but didn't the Quran have the same narration?] Mams.
OK Mams. So what is your problem?
[This is Ramadan, the month of concentration to the knowledge of God and asking oneself the question (why things happen the way the do).] Mams.
God/Allah made all things. It is therefore not my purview WHY the things God/Allah created, interact the way they do. I am only interested in the yield of those interactions and my role in that yield.
[Analysing the history can pave ones way forward. Ramadan Mubarak to all.] Mams.
Exactly. The history does not tell you the why? it tells you the How. It however conjures up the why. And what better way for Mams to conjure up the why than to affect that part of the why that is his purview and let Waalimang conjure20up the part that is Waalimang's purview? Lakum Deenikum Walyadeen. This is the most comprehensive code in all religion.
[Haruna go away from me and stop having funny mind here I am on my research for the truth and Haruna silo is not the answer so far........???????] Mams.
Why would you tell me to go away when you admit that "so far" Harunasilo (one word) does not provide you answer to your global problems? Bear with me Mams. We will get there. I am not manufacturing any new ideas. I am synthesising old ideas as the seasons change. I encourage you to accord me consideration. You have admitted yourself that you have not found answers yet to your anxieties. WHy would=2 0you discourage another option in solution matrices????? Do you know what you want Mams? For all you know, your answers could reside within yourself=2
0and you are not aware. In Ron's convoluted idiocy below, the man went round and round to arrive at his starting point. Cluelessness. He does admit that since God/Allah created Man, then God/Allah can do with Man as he pleases. Could it be that the solution to Ron's and mams' problems reside in their souls? Ron further engages in tortured reasoning by agonying himself as to what came first; The chicken or the egg? What difference does it make if ROn thought it were the consciousness and not the theft that yielded Adam and Eve expulsion from the Hadiqa? The trigger mechanism is theft. That is what you and I have control over. I don't even know why I'm going through this with you. Like I advised Karim, you're on a mission to render us all clueless like yourself. Misery loves company. Don't tell me to go away. You go away. Haruna. And don't bring us what Ron or Richard thinks about stuff. I'm sick and tired of the idiots. How do you know these thoughts don't come to them when they are under the influence in a pub or on a beach somewhere???? How do you know they are not part of our number who fell through the cracks of Campama like Yahya did? Beware the analyser of WHY? Don't humbug me.
IT”S A GOD THING…
In Genesis chapter three, Adam and Eve had eaten the forbidden fruit. Then along comes God and found them hiding as the result of hearing him calling them. Adam tells God that they hid themselves because they were naked. Then God asks the question, “Who told you that you were naked?” Think about it, nothing concerning Adam and eve was any different as far as their appearance.
After all, they were naked when they were created were they not? There was however one thing that was not the same. The difference according to this story was in their mind. All of a sudden they discover that God must have goofed. I mean, shouldn’t God have clothed them as soon as he created them? I mean, sure enough, they certainly were naked. The problem was not that they were naked; the problem was they20found it to be all wrong.
They were the same as when God created them, yet all of a sudden, now they now found themselves as unacceptable. The God of Genesis set the trap and they took the bait. Had they done anything that God did not want them to do? Absolutely not! Yes, they had done what God had told them not to do, but they had not done what he never wanted them to do.
Why did God forbid them to eat from the tree of knowledge if in fact he wanted them to, and knew that they would? And how did he know they would? And if he knew they would why put the tree t here in the first place? He knew that they would, because they were his offspring. You might say he knew that his spirit within man would always rebel when something impedes upon
its freedom. It’s a God thing.
Sin consciousness ultimately self destructs, but before it does, it destroys mans efforts to improve upon Gods creation, which has never been anything but perfect from the very beginning. As the story goes, it started with the first man and woman and has been doing Gods work ever since. Check out Romans chapter seven in the New Testament.
Paul describes a mans experience who is sin conscious. This thing called sin consciousness was created long before Moses gave the law to Israel . Then according to the O.T. Moses produces the “book of the law.8 0 We see in Romans seven a miserable existence that stems from the attempt to keep the law of God, or was it the Law of Moses? I guess you could say it was b
oth.
I see that in John’s gospel he does not give God the credit for giving the law but puts the blame on Moses. Isn’t this interesting? Quoting John, “For the law came by Moses, but grace and truth came by Jesus Christ.” Actually, it is both God and man that came forth with this principle we know as law. This was the sovereignty of Creative intelligence at work deep within man.
A very good bible teacher that I once sat under once said that Gods revealed will was that men keep the law. His unrevealing will was that he br eak it. When I heard this I understood why that was. Until this ego man is brought to the end of himself to see that any of his efforts to clothe himself will only end in a
ttracting more failure to overcome, he will find himself in the only hell there ever was and he alone creates it.
In Genesis chapter three, Adam hid under his fig leaves as the result of seeing his nakedness as evil. Gods question of “who told you that you were naked?” to me, creates another question. He could have went on to say, “And what’s wrong with naked?” “I made you exactly the way you were, why have you attempted to improve upon my creation?” “Why do you find evil where there is none existing?” Ah, but it did exist! It was now incorporated within the mind of Adam which is the only place it has ever existed. Adam believed he had disobeyed God and as a result he hid. Did Adam disobey God?
When I was a young Christian seeking Gods face for answers, the fact that God created the troublesome tree of knowledge was a mystery to me. I had been taught that God knew all things from the beginning to the end. I would say to the Lord, if you knew that the majority of your offspring would be lost, why then did you create them the way you did. How could a God who is Love do that?
I somehow knew that one day little by little each question I asked would eventually be answered. What I did not realize then, was that when a question is finally answered, by this time there are more that pop up that are mysteries to me. Today I realize that I must experience life and it is life that God uses to answer me. God put within me a conscience. When I live according to it, I find peace.
At first my conscience answers to law. “Do this and live, do that and die.” This is when as a novice I attempt to clothe myself with the fig leaves I’ve gathered. As I live this way {for I don’t know how to stop attempting to behave} the law that I create becomes the cross that ultimately puts me to death. One day I wake up to find that the only thing that can die is that which isn’t real anyway. As the false identity dies, the one I’ve always been is all that’s left.
I discover there is blindness in me that has created every cross that worked to put to death the old creation that my mind programmed to law had created. “The soul that sins shall die” says the scripture, and the only thing that can possibly die in Gods creation is that which is illusion anyway. “The letter kills but the spirit gives life,” wrote Paul, and these two are two ends of the same stick. The Spirit comes as the law does its work. Here is to me the bottom line.
If God is Light and he is, and God is Love, and he is, if God is infinite intelligence and he is, and I see problems in his creation, then those problems that I see are the reflections of the darkness that still resides within me. That’s ok… as man I’m on my way home. I’ve not as yet arrived,
but The closer I get however, the more his light becomes a blinding force. The closer I get to home, the more will be my view of God and only God for even now, I do know that nothing else exists.
Ron. Sigler.
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