"Hell no I CANNOT imagine or understand why anyone would impair themselves with alcoholic beverages let alone drink themselves to a listless stupor. There are a lot you assume about me Suntou that the good Lord will make you pay for." Haruna Haruna, don't you start misunderstanding me. I mean that statement in the sense folks are free to indulge their fancy, i thought Haruna will be the last person not to understand some Soninkes sticking to their guns. I don't mean it in a way that Haruna knows or accept the consumption of dolo. Good that you allow me to clarify. In the early 90's in Mansajang, we have this Manneh kunda fellow, who is an extended family to me. He refuse to bulge from the Kaubanka tradition of afternoon wine drinking. I can't remember how many times his brothers and family took him to the Mansajang mosque for bapstism. This man will change for two or three days. The next thing you see is, he is falling all over the place from Basse Mansuwan kunda (sum-sum drinking spot). He is Kabunka for life, and nothing can change him. At the end of the day, a man got to do what he is comfortable with. He believes in his history and heritage, likewise the Wallis in Wulli have change, but not all of them. I will tolerate them, simply they are people who chose to live that life. Only Allah guide to his way, we can only wish good for others. By the way, the king Walli never had a child. so the Senko business was for him to get one, an inheritor. You don't involve a Senko unless, all your wives are childless. your uncle for life.. nna sunkari sukuro leeh, kana kee barindin kaliya tii suntou --- On Thu, 3/9/09, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Documentaries: Aftermath of the 1981 Kukoi Rebellion & Senko-A Mandinka Cultural Film To: [log in to unmask] Date: Thursday, 3 September, 2009, 4:06 PM I am glad this was ancient history for Wulli Suntou because it makes no sense at all. Forget un-islamic. The children of the other wives started perishing out of neglect and reckless abandon. How could one man care for 100 children let alone 200??? So good on you Wulli. And don't tell me Allah helped him take care of them. Allah does not condone idiocy.  And what do you mean by: "The Wallis according to oral narrations were the founding rulers of Wulli, and to this day, some Wallis in Wulli are sticking to the Soninke tradition of gulping Maja dolo and getting high in broad day light. Can you imagine that. yeah you can."? Hell no I CANNOT imagine or understand why anyone would impair themselves with alcoholic beverages let alone drink themselves to a listless stupor. There are a lot you assume about me Suntou that the good Lord will make you pay for. I forgive you because it is insignificant to me what you imagine about me but Allah, Subhaanahu wa-Ta-Aalaa cleanses souls. I have too much important work to do to impair my mind for one second. I urge you to reconsider your demarche.  Thanx for shedding more light on the Senko affair. I don't even know enough about Soninkes to be one. Don't piss me off men. Stay khappy. I do want you when you have time, to comb the Qur'An and share with us everywhere that a Wife's OBEDIENCE to the Husband is OBLIGATORY. When you do, please shar e with us the actual verse/s and then the translation if you so desire. But the actual verse in English alphabets. For example: Laa Hawala Wa-laa khuwwata, Illaa Bi-Llaahi Al-Aliyyul Atheem. And please only the Quran for now. We will get to the Hadiths later. Ok later Aligater. Haruna. Don't friggin piss me off again.  -----Original Message----- From: SUNTOU TOURAY <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Thu, Sep 3, 2009 2:40 am Subject: Re: Documentaries: Aftermath of the 1981 Kukoi Rebellion & Senko-A Mandinka Cultural Film Haruna, i will also add my voice to yours in thanking Buharry's tireless efforts in connecting us with the past. Not all history speaks volume, and Senko business was a long, long time ago misadventure by the Wally dynasty who hailed from Kaabu. The Wallis according to oral narrations were the founding rulers of Wulli, and to this day, some Wallis in Wulli are sticking to the Soninke tradition of gulping Maja dolo and getting high in broad day light. Can you imagine that. yeah you can. Any way, ancient kings use to take liberty, that was their past time and the infertile Mansa was no exception. Mystery and mysticism has always involve some form of contact with spirits world. But Wulli has rid it self of such Senka dun. I did a comment on the subject back in August 2008, here is my brief take on it:  Friday, 29 August 2008 SENKO, A PRE-ISLAMIC RITUAL IN WULLI www.suntoumana.blogspot.com watch this video of a pre-Islamic ritual in wulli. the act is perform by a man who only his guide can identify, known in Mandingo as jobo. this person is of communal importance. he perform for the community in dispelling evil spirits. the association of jnn's are central to his powers. but the sad part is before one becomes a senko, he must sacrifice his sister to the snake, who will later die. this was a believe in pre-Islamic wulli, but since islamisation banish all such practises, the community re-enact the performance of the senko (a from of kankuran). check it out, for non-mandinka speakers, sorry. www.onegambia.com/media/mansa_janlali.wmv Posted by SUNTOU TOURAY at 06:59 0 comments Links to this post --- On Thu, 3/9/09, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wr ote: From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: Documentaries: Aftermath of the 1981 Kukoi Rebellion & Senko-A Mandinka Cultural Film To: [log in to unmask] Date: Thursday, 3 September, 2009, 1:58 AM Buharry,  Once again thanx. This is the man (Sir Dawda Jawara) who was replaced by the accident of a human being Yahya Jammeh.  On the other clip SENKO. I never was aware of this story in Wulli. I'm sure glad they did away with it. Wonder how Uncle Sidia feels about these malignant lore? WHen I speak with him next, I'll ask him. Meanwhile Suntou what do you think? I understand to become a Senko, you would have had to have seen a Jinn (virus) who trains you to become a Senko. And you had to give your daughter to a friggin snake in the woods????????????? What.? I wonder why they never looked at the CHief's diet to figure out what impeded the efficacy of his spermatozoa. That could have helped many a man today. Now we don't have Senko and we still have men who can't have kids of their own. They don't have the luxury of marrying 100 wives to have one child. Wonder what the wife who bore him children was feeding him????? I would look into that wife for clues and answers. S trange stuff men. Thanx again Buharry. Haruna. -----Original Message----- From: Momodou Buharry Gassama <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Wed, Sep 2, 2009 5:11 am Subject: Documentaries: Aftermath of the 1981 Kukoi Rebellion & Senko-A Mandinka Cultural Film Hi! Two new videos (documentaries) have been added to the Raaki Gambian films page. They are: - Picking Up the Pieces - This is a documentary about the aftermath of the Kukoi rebellion in 1981. - Senko - This is a Mandinka cultural documentary. My Mandinka is substandard. Maybe the Mandinka speakers can help with a proper interpretation of the film. The permanent links to these videos can be found at the link below. Those who have linked to the page when the videos were temporarily shown and replaced by others are hereby informed that the links to these videos are now permanent. Anyone who wishes to link to the videos is granted permission to do so. Thanks. The link is: http://www.raaki.com/gambia.html Thanks and have a good day. 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