Calm down Masoud, there is no harm done by discussing small issues like this. But i will heed to your request, case close. i cannot go without thanking Karim that brilliant observation. Modou, i see your angle as well, thanks. Suntou On Thu, Nov 5, 2009 at 4:41 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Suntou, > > you're pissing me off. Why don't you let this go??? Let's say you're right > that Foroyaa/PDOIS had ulterior motives in the report. Would you want them > forever condemned to your disdain??? Does not Allah make for rehabilitation? > I mean would you not like to leave some room for improvement of Foroyaa and > or PDOIS? Afterall, there are humans writing the reports and stories. You > made your points. Serignbi, Evian, Dave and others made their points. I am > confident Foroyaa and or PDOIS will attach more weight to your anxieties > than those of their loyal sympathisers. That is the way organisations grow. > They will be shooting themselves in the foot should they ignore the concerns > of their detractors and opposition. The loyalists have various other reasons > for their sympathy with Foroyaa/PDOIS. You on the other hand have this one > reason for disdain. I submit it is much easier to win you over than insense > loyalists who have a multitude of reasons for their affinity. And > Foroyaa/PDOIS has intelligent folk. This is not overwhelming for them to > consider. > > I am getting sad here. And you know it takes a lot to sadden yours truly. > Haruna. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Tue, Nov 3, 2009 5:53 am > Subject: Re: FW: [>-<] Re: [>-<] Political opportunism (Foroyaas coverage > of Peters arrest) > > Very well said brother Bailo. The negative publicity is important to > understand in a proper context. The quotation is a general statement. It > implies that discussing about an issue make it popular, either for the wrong > or right reasons but the fact that it make people pay some attention to it > is a positive thing. > > It is on that basis, i expose the duplicity in the language Foroyaa > utilises in reporting the Peter's episode. Foroyaa may have highlighted some > aspect of the case, but any serious and critical reader cannot but equally > see the mirroring of matters towards their end. > Foroyaa mentioned that, they are still investigating the matter. One would > hope, since they have not conclusively gather enough facts on the > circumstances surrounding the case, they would restrain using specific and > definitive words in context to the people that attended the rally. (700 > people attended, mostly women and children). What is that conveying? > Gambians know, PDOIS/foroyaa see Serrekunda as their heart land although > the current party leader loses his seat to Sainey Jaiteh ( I will in future > analyse how he loses that seat and what some folks in Serrekunda east said > was the reason they boycott PDOIS candidate). > In a parochial society like the Gambia, when we say women and children, the > overiding assumption is that, the occasion is not serious. PDOIS uses such > words to technically emphasise the environment of the rally. > The other area which i made mention of were Foroyaa equally use the issue > to highlight their own activism is the question of the speech of Ousianou > Darboe. (in a gathering, we do hear elders complimenting each other by > saying: i have not much to say, elder x have said it all. This means let us > go along with what such person said.) > Foroyyaa was in essense deflating the speech of the biggest opposition > party in the Gambia. If this is not politics, i don't know what is. Other > observers are right in that Foroyaa did report the case, to them that is > enough, but to keen followers of UDP, it is a poison chalice. > Suntou Bolonba > > On Mon, Nov 2, 2009 at 10:22 PM, bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > >> Suntou said: >> >> "Finally, what PDOIS stalwarts must understand is, there is no bad >> publicity par say" >> >> Let no one deceive you about it; there is good publicity and there is bad >> publicity. As a reader of newspapers, you should have by now learnt to >> distinguish between the two. For instance, when a so-called leader goes on >> national television and threatens to kill someone else, believe me, that is >> bad publicity for the leader who issued the death threat. >> >> On the other hand, an institution such as Foroyaa, reknowned for >> investigating or asking questions about the disappearance of some people >> would naturally earns itself good publicity in their quest to account for >> disappeared people. >> >> Regretably, a minority of folks like you would nonetheless accuse Foroyaa >> of only being motivated by political opportunism over their constant >> reporting of such disappearances. That's life. The struggle must go on. >> >> Bailo >> >> >> >> >> >> --- On *Mon, 2/11/09, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>* wrote: >> >> >> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> >> Subject: Re: FW: [>-<] Re: [>-<] Political opportunism (Foroyaas coverage >> of Peters arrest) >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Date: Monday, 2 November, 2009, 12:25 >> >> Uncle Modou, thanks for the fine comments and i appreciate the inputs. I >> also notwithstanding my continous disagrrement with some points you raised, >> commend your boldness in articulating a fitting defense of Foroyaa news >> paper. I hope those wishing for a balance argument would find it in the >> exchanges offered. >> Uncle Modou, i know any serious and well meaning Foroyya and PDOIS fan >> will defend the position of the paper as an objective media outlet just >> like the many out in the world wide web. But i cannot accept that argument >> simply because Foroyaa is the by-product of 'Voice of the Future', whcih was >> politically motivated information transmitter. Foroyaa is equally run by men >> who couple of years ago where vying for a political leadership position >> with the members of the UDP. >>  >> There may be a strong Chinise wall created by the publisers and editors of >> Foroyaa, but the overriding conflict of interest remains... Political-power >> play. I see the men at Foroyaa as normal human beings who have emotions and >> interests. There sacrifing life long interest among other things is to >> assume political office. Foroyaa thus became a tool where many young Gambian >> men and women are nurtured to understand and accept the ideology and >> propaganda message of PDOIS. >>  >> The head office of Foroyaa is seen as a shrine, a university, and the >> most suffisticated educational platform in the Gambia by the heads of the >> party. I am not oblivious to those facts Uncle Modou. The newspaper does not >> appeal to me base on one key principle: I cannot associate myself with the >> central message and philosophy of the party. >> The language utilised in the paper is more akin to the ideas peddle by >> the paper. >>  >> The issues i raised on the two article on the Femi Peter's arrest were >> arrived at after reppeated analysis. I wish to avoid trampling on the toes >> of decent people like you. But that is not to say, Foroyaa doesn't >> occasionally undergo a conflict of interest. >> Finally, what PDOIS stalwarts must understand is, there is no bad >> publicity par say. And Foroyaa/PDOIS hierachy are masters at responding at >> critics. My argument stands, the language was such that, the Peters arrest >> provided them an avenue to relay their message with a twist. >> Thanks >> >> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 3:47 AM, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]> >> > wrote: >> >>> Suntou, you are my Uncle instead and this also includes Haruna. >>> Henceforth I will address you both as such. I am now very comfortable to >>> discuss (as my uncle suggested) here and any other forum because my Uncle >>> Haruna, warmly welcomed me into the fold. Thank you my uncle. You - Uncle >>> Haruna, has made good points and I agree with you. Sure I will contribute on >>> any such type fund that is meant to assist in our fight against oppression >>> back home in the Gambia. With regards to the OLDF we have to spell out the >>> details that will government its operations and disbursement    etc, >>> etc. >>> Always count me in. >>> Back to Uncle Suntou I will first of all say Al-sabarry you and Dave >>> Manneh. The topic is you raised issues with Foroyaa’s reportage of the UDP >>> rally in Serekunda as being biased and opportunistic on the part of foroyaa >>> and PDOIS. I have forwarded points to prove you wrong that was in fact doing >>> what it has been doing for over two decades and even much more now during >>> this present predicament we have found our selves in. >>> >>> Uncle Suntou, forget about the argument with Dave Manneh, I think he was >>> just making a joke.  Instead, challenge my postings directly or we close >>> this chapter even if you would not acknowledge Foroyaa’s contribution in >>> the uncovering of events in our country. Dave, can I also call you Uncle? >>> Please let’s take him on issues and soon he will rely on facts before >>> jumping into conclusions to accuse others. >>> >>> >>> Referring to me as a PDOIS sympathizer and gloss over my points is not a >>> good way to discourse our national affairs as Uncle Haruna advised me to now >>> use. I am from Foroyaa. I have been an insider of the paper for many years >>> rising to the position of Sub-Editor. It is because of my knowledge of >>> things at that institution why I am trying to prove you wrong. >>> >>> As Oceanic stated in part, additionally, Foroyaa has to be re-registered >>> following the trial of editorial board members Seedia Jatta and Halifa in >>> 1994 due to their defiance of Decree No: 4. Legally, foroyaa is registered >>> just like any other newspaper that is operating in the Gambia. And since the >>> statement “Organ of PDOIS� has to be removed from the paper when >>> re-registering it, Foroyaa has evolved full cycle following in the footsteps >>> of many a newspaper especially in the developed world, that evolved from >>> party affiliated mediums to full fledge mainstream media institutions. This >>> is just a little of the history of foroyaa and it’s relation to the >>> history of the evolution of newspapers in other parts of the world to prove >>> to you that political had and do still own and run newspapers. I can tell >>> you since I came to the United States I have developed so much love in >>> watching MSNBC and will sometimes switch to FOX NEWS, to get the other side >>> of the news. Or do you want to tell me they are not run like Foroyaa is? The >>> Campaign for and against health reform here in the US tells a lot on this >>> issue. Those arguing for either side are politicians or journalists or both. >>> So Foroyaa is not committing any crime here. >>> >>> Remember Foroyaa was established as a result of the absence of an >>> alternative source of media in the Gambia back in the old days, and that >>> purpose is much more relevant in today’s Gambia than ever before. In >>> fact, the continued participation of the founders of PDOIS in the running of >>> Foroyaa is a necessity instead of anything else. Younger people like my self >>> handle most if not all the news items published in the paper. The editors >>> are there to serve as guarantors of the paper and ready to take full >>> responsibility in any eventuality. Am sharing this bit of how we work at >>> foroyaa for your information. >>> >>> On the issue that foroyaa hardly reports anything that is UDP must have >>> been rested now? Uncle Suntou, I did not say Foroyaa was defending UDP. What >>> I wrote was to prove your statement that Foroyaa hardly reports anything UDP >>> wrong. UDP is one out of many other political parties in the Gambia. >>> Foroyaa’s reports of events is not party based, it is people centered. In >>> fact the paper has virtually into a human rights advocating medium by >>> constantly and tirelessly reporting unlawful arrests and detentions. This is >>> what foroyaa does and it is because it is the only paper in the country >>> willing to do so, family members of persecuted victims always storm our >>> offices to lodge thier complains. >>> >>> This is what was happening during the witchcraft saga. Almost everyone in >>> the country was talking about the incidents but it was no where on the media >>> except Foroyaa. And you know what this led to. Halifa was arrested and have >>> to spend almost two weeks in detention. It is the same with the Chief Manneh >>> case, it is only Foroyaa that consistently reports on his disappearance and >>> locations of detentions. This what foroyaa does, and I can’t see any of >>> these as political opportunism. And even recently we have seen how the >>> APRC government’s attempt to get the protocol setting up the ECOWAS Court >>> amended was exposed leading to it’s defeat. >>> >>> My Uncle am stopping here for now. I know it is long and want to have >>> some good sleep as Uncle Haruna advised. >>> >>> Nyang >>> >>> --- On *Sun, 1/11/09, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]> >>> >* wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]> >>> > >>> Subject: Re: FW: [>-<] Re: [>-<] Political opportunism (Foroyaas coverage >>> of Peters arrest) >>> >>> To: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]> >>> Date: Sunday, 1 November, 2009, 1:15 >>> >>> Thanks Yero for clarifying that you are not a PDOIS member. I accept >>> that clarification in good faith. I know Yero you are a nice guy who >>> will hardly hide his real intentions. The wider issue i raised >>> concerning Foroyaa not publishing anything from Gainako stance, >>> reprinting an item from you is too insignificant to warrant >>> reconsidering the statement. >>> Secondly, I will not heed to what Modou Nyang said. I show the >>> reportage without any preconceive judgement. Any independent reader >>> who is not out to pacify or divert attention would see through the >>> articles in seconds. But when we for the sake exposing Yahya only >>> avoid clarifying issues like this, the talk of opposition unity will >>> be a mere talk. >>> Modou Nyang wrote at length, and my Uncles are Nyang, i was bais to >>> read all what he has to say. I can see uncle Nyang is clearly a PDOIS >>> sympathiser, so i don't wish to further iritate him. >>> Foroyaa was not in any way defending UDP. The statements are far from >>> that. >>> Unless PDOIS/Foroyaa realises that hiding behind word-play will never >>> be accepted by UDP and other Gambian readers to allow it to slip >>> through, their double standard wil be expose. I have no problems with >>> the men and women at PDOIS, i only have a problem with their >>> strategies. That is all. Finally, as you truely said, Gainako.com is >>> free blame on the subject, my only worry is, you convey a message for >>> PDOIS against other parties which is not of gainko original making. >>> Apart from that, 'fof noo bete'. Mbalen Jam. >>> Thanks >>> Suntou Bolonba >>> >>> On Sat, Oct 31, 2009 at 1:58 PM, Y Jallow <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>> >>> wrote: >>> > “I will not respond to the Gainako editors simply because both young >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > “The views of rival parties shouldn't be republished verbatim. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >  >>> http://suntoumana.blogspot.com/2009/10/why-yahya-can-never-change.html >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Hi Uncle  Suntou, >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Greetings. Anyway good to see you back on this debate. I personally had >>> to >>> > cancel posting a whole page I typed regarding this matter, because I >>> thought >>> > the temperature was too high for us to get trapped in the kind of >>> > distractions. I will keep this one simple while debating a loved one. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Please go ahead and rectify your first quote, because I am not a PDOIS >>> > supporter or member. I don’t belong to any political party or >>> organization >>> >>> > as at now. I am a sympathizer to the opposition and any other oppressed >>> > Gambian. I have said it over and over that I can only belong to a >>> coalition >>> > of all political parties. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > If what you said in Quote two above is to go by, then I will ask you to >>> > remove this piece you published about Yaya in Suntoumana. In fact this >>> is >>> > the person responsible for Gambia’s problems. >>> >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Anyways, FYI, and the greater readership we are neither PDOIS nor >>> Foroyaa. >>> > We complement Foroyaa’s effort, like any other news paper. We >>> complement >>> >>> > PDOIS like any other political party. Personally, I know your take is >>> on >>> > Foroyaa and PDOIS, and in fact not Gainako. I know this because we >>> > interacted enough for me to ascertain that. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > FYI, when I wrote a tribute on Dr. Lenrie Peters (of beloved memory), >>> it was >>> > all over the Point Newspaper and Foroyaa. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Besides, my humble advice for you is please sought to resolve your >>> > differences with PDOIS and Foroyaa. If it accumulates in you like >>> seemingly >>> > observed, it will make you jump on them anytime, in an effort to bring >>> them >>> > down -even when there is no need to do so. You should heed to Modou >>> Nyang's >>> > entire advice. Even though writing is subjected to different >>> interpretation, >>> > you probably missed the message on this one. It was in defense of the >>> > UDP. Anyways my dear, so much for a debate with you – you will not >>> hear from >>> > me on this so soon again. I am sure PDOIS and Foroyaa have enough men >>> and >>> >>> > women to defend their policies. >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > Later, & take care, >>> > >>> > yj >>> > >>> > There is no god but Allah (SWT) and Muhammad (SAW) is His messenger. >>> Fear >>> >>> > and Worship only Allah alone! >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> >> Date: Sat, 31 Oct 2009 12:34:34 +0000 >>> >> Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: [>-<] Political opportunism (Foroyaas coverage >>> of >>> >> Peters arrest) >>> >> From: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]> >>> >> To: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>; >>> [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]> >>> >> >>> >> [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by suntou touray >>> >> <[log in to unmask] <http:[log in to unmask]>> >>> ] >>> >> >>> >> >>> >> Oceanic, since a few folks hang onto your bona fide comments to gain a >>> >> window. I will then address you and hopefully that will do. Yes i have >>> >> bone to pick with Foroyaa. Now tell me, what is the paper, a >>> >> propaganda tool or a newspaper that we take as independent and >>> >> objective? >>> >> I am sure like me, you too and many other people vent their anger at >>> >> the continuous praise singing of the Observer news paper of our >>> >> dictator. We all know that paper regularly sings Jammeh's praises. >>> >> What is the difference between Foroyaa and Observer? >>> >> Foroyaa like the Observer can pretend to be covering news items >>> >> independently but that is all it is: pretending. >>> >> Now Oceanic, you made mention that you live in U.S, which main stream >>> >> U.S political party has its own newspaper? I am not saying, the main >>> >> stream broad sheet or tabloid papers don't favour one party as against >>> >> the other, but the issue is when politicians are directly involve in >>> >> the reporting, editorial, and publication of a newspaper. The matter >>> >> is suspect Oceanic. >>> >> >>> >> Foroyaa (PDOIS) used the paper to daily unearth venom's against the >>> >> PPP then, but did also publish response from the PPP to their views? >>> >> Coming to the matter at hand, look at the subject carefully, because I >>> >> am not treating your comments like that of the Pa Sambas of this >>> >> world. Fanatical sycophants with hate filled attitude to all comments >>> >> unfavourable to their saints. >>> >> I am taking your comments seriously, i expect the same from you. >>> >> >>> >> The headline of any newspaper convey a general message. The headline >>> >> of Foroyaa is sufficient to see through the facade the editors created >>> >> around themselves: >>> >> 1. The headline that 700 people attended the rally. >>> >> 2. The rally was mostly women and children >>> >> >>> >> Another days headline: >>> >> What did the police said to Peters. >>> >> In the coverage, they went to the extent of saying endlessly: >>> >> 1. The subject of meat shortage that Darboe spoke about was covered in >>> >> their paper. >>> >> 2. The subject of Jammeh involving in all sectors of Gambian economy >>> >> was also publicise by there paper. >>> >> What do you think they are not saying, but hoping readers can pick >>> out? >>> >> Let us understand that, Sarr the editor is also a politician. >>> >> Halifa a contributor to the paper is a politician >>> >> Suwaibou also another contributor is a politician >>> >> Amie Sillah a contributor is a politician >>> >> >>> >> Taking all of that into account and also knowing that PDOIS cannot >>> >> stand the fact that the UDP have a bigger majority than them. They are >>> >> willing to die than accept that fact, thus the uncompromising >>> >> sentiments coming from Halifa on daily basis. So how can Foroyaa >>> >> attached a specific figures to a rall? Why should they say, it was >>> >> women and children that were the majority out there? Why should they >>> >> be saying (all that Darboe said was reported by their paper). >>> >> >>> >> If the freedomnews paper, the Gambiajournal, Echo etc said such thing, >>> >> no one would raise eyebrows Oceanic. The case is different when the >>> >> intellectual who see no one has capable apart from them report on such >>> >> rival political matter. >>> >> If PDOIS also organise a rally and made mention that, "we too have >>> >> said what Darboe said" and the constitutions provides us such rights, >>> >> then the matter will be irrelevant, since the platform are the same >>> >> (rally). >>> >> >>> >> I will not respond to the Gainako editors simply because both young >>> >> men are keen PDOIS supporters, therefore they wouldn't be objective in >>> >> this matter. >>> >> The conflict of interest at PDOIS cannot be denied or ignored. The >>> >> attitude of the editorial board cannot also be ignored, so are the >>> >> die-hards in U.S. So the game is politics Oceanic, they will always be >>> >> quiet in matters were they play a political advantageous game. Peter's >>> >> arrest is unlawfully, the paper should concentrate on that and stop >>> >> playing smart games. We are ready to see through the paper and its >>> >> editor, with its sympathisers. Oceanic, thanks for your comments. This >>> >> is only my humble observation, i intend no malice. >>> >> Suntou Bolonba >>> >> >>> >> On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 11:18 PM, OCEANIC LAD <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]> >>> > >>> >> wrote: >>> >> > [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by OCEANIC LAD >>> >> > <[log in to unmask] <http:[log in to unmask]>> >>> ] >>> >> > >>> >> > >>> >> > My believe is bolongba has a bone to pick with PDOIS/Foroyaa.He >>> should >>> >> > just come out clean about it.How many more times would he criticize >>> >> > everything about foroyaa/PDOIS. >>> >> > I see nothing wrong in the foroyaa news or stories.They are very >>> >> > realistic and compared and contrast the political scene of the >>> Gambia. >>> >> > >>> >> > All what i know is whatever happens ,PDOIS and foroyaa shall remain >>> very >>> >> > significant in the political and social history of the Gambia. >>> >> > >>> >> > Demba Baldeh wrote: >>> >> >> Suntou, >>> >> >> >>> >> >>  In as much as you see Foroyaa as a newspaper you also have to >>> >> >> understand that the paper is an organ of a political party. So >>> only if you >>> >>> >> >> don't understand the role Foroyaa plays that you can be taken by >>> surprise >>> >> >> that they ponder towards their ideology. If UDP or any other >>> political >>> >>> >> >> party had a similar organ they will be promoting their brand more >>> than >>> >> >> anybody else. >>> >> >> >>> >> >>  How would you assess Suntou's blog report issues related to the >>> UDP??? >>> >>> >> >> vs PDOIS or APRC? Sometimes understanding political components goes >>> a long >>> >> >> way to help one analyse reports. If you see such a skewed report on >>> Gainako >>> >> >> or senegambia or other more independent papers may be you can call >>> them on >>> >> >> it.... >>> >> >> >>> >> >>  Hope that helps clarify so you don't try to make something out of >>> >> >> nothing... >>> >> >> >>> >> >>  Demba >>> >> >>  On Thu, Oct 29, 2009 at 4:28 AM, Dave Manneh < >>> [log in to unmask] <http:[log in to unmask]> >>> >> >> > wrote: >>> >> >>  Mr Touray, >>> >> >>  Please elaborate a little more if you would, on what constitutes >>> >>> >>> >> >> “Political Opportunism� on Forooya and/PDOIS’ part/s? >>> >> >>  I’ve read both links you provided, and I am still none the >>> wiser as to >>> >>> >> >> what could have raised your ire. >>> >> >>  I suppose most importantly too, why, in your view >>> >> >> should PDOIS and Foroyaa be two entities; independent and >>> separate from each >>> >> >> other? >>> >> >>  Kind Regards, >>> >> >>  Dave >>> >> >>  NB: Am at a loose-end presently; having finished one project and >>> not >>> >>> >> >> started on another. So I've spare time to indulge in cyber >>> chitchat. >>> >> >>  2009/10/29 suntou touray < [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>> >>> >> >>  [ This e-mail is posted to Gambia|Post e-Gathering by suntou >>> touray < >>> >> >> [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>> ] >>> >> >>  In has much i wish to avoid focusing on the style the foroyya >>> news >>> >>> >> >> paper adopted in reporting the UDP rally and subsiquent events, one >>> cannot >>> >> >> but comment on their strategic ploy to make the issue down bit. >>> >> >> The Foroyaa reportage culled from www.gainako.com higligthed >>> serious >>> >> >> opportunism on the part of Foroyaa the arm of PDOIS. They claim >>> that, >>> >> >> whatever was mention on the UDP rally was reported by their paper. >>> As >>> >> >> if rallies are the same as news paper items. If it is trust and >>> mutual >>> >> >> cooperation we are all advocating, the Foroyaa should change its >>> stance and >>> >> >> see to it that, their views or way is not the only way. We want to >>> respect >>> >> >> the persons and agendas of all the opposition, try >>> >> >> to bridge the gabs, therefore, Foroyaa activitiues on this issue is >>> >> >> unprofessional and politically bias. >>> >> >> >>> http://www.gainako.com/news/news/2009/10/29/public-meeting-by-political-parties-is-a-constitutional-political-and-civic-right-and-not-a-privilege.html >>> >> >> . >>> >> >>  In an earlier coverage on the episode, Foroyya went as far as >>> quote a >>> >>> >> >> number to the people that attended the rally. Were they guessing or >>> did they >>> >> >> actually count the number of people that attended the rally? >>> >> >> Foroyaa should do its best to always be seen to be independent of >>> >> >> PDOIS, if not their side of stories like this will be rejected >>> and/or taken >>> >> >> with a pinch of salt. >>> >> >> http://www.foroyaa.gm/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3750 >>> >> >> Suntou Bolonba >>> >> >> >>> >> >> >>>  ----------------------------gambiapost.NET------------------------------ >>> >>> >> >> SUBSCRIPTION: http://thegambiapostforum.com/membership >>> >> >> We thank you for joining our forum. The purpose of The Gambia Post >>> >> >> Forum is to provide a place for national discourse, a place where >>> we can >>> >> >> exchange ideas and share common interests. The Gambia Post is the >>> largest >>> >> >> Gambian online >>> >> >> community on the Web where a variety of issues are discussed. 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