Hi Bro Haruna/Edie,
 
Thank you both for your rejoinders.
 
There are some lessons to learn from these happenings.
 
I wish everyone was here to read our commentaries.
 
Happy week ahead!
 
yj


 

There is no god but Allah (SWT) and Muhammad (SAW) is His messenger. Fear and Worship only Allah alone!




 

Date: Sun, 8 Nov 2009 16:41:49 -0500
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Major Hasan of the US Army
To: [log in to unmask]

Mams, this one I read. But for Ruth's endless questions, I'd say she is a great candidate for HarunaSilo. And you too. It is the natural extension of all this indecision on Ruth's part. HarunaSilo affords you contemporary answers to life's weightier questions that have not and cannot possibly be answered by the inadequate religions of Christianity, Islam, Mormonism, Bahaa'ULLah, and Hinduism.
 
If you have such questions, I encourage you to ask me and I shall endeavour to answer them to your satisfaction. In the view of HarunaSilo.
Haruna. 


-----Original Message-----
From: Edie Sidibeh <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sun, Nov 8, 2009 7:23 am
Subject: Re: Major Hasan of the US Army

The Masters of Light: The Mystery of Truth
As Received by Ruth Ryden
====================================

Humanity has been searching for Truth for centuries, trying to distinguish 
between fantasy, myths, teachings of many religions and philosophies and their 
own sense of rightness. The search continues. 
 
You have heard many teachers tell you that Truth is as you personally see it, 
that you must rely upon “your own Truth.” That is true only to a certain point, 
and applies to your own ability to relate what you hear to your own backgrounds 
and experiences, including all of the prior lifetimes spent in matter and upon 
all of the knowledge you have acquired in spirit. It is not a matter of what is 
really Truth, but of your ability to accept what is given as a reliable course 
of action in your own lives. Human beings are finally beginning to realize, by 
their own observation, the myriad differences that exist in every living 
incarnated being. Every one of you is unique from the standpoint of who and what 
you are and are becoming. Your own goals and purposes set you apart from every 
other human being, and your own background determines how you think and accept 
what you see and hear. 
 
Witnesses to an accident are interviewed and asked to describe the person 
involved. If the police are lucky they may get one or two descriptions that are 
at least similar. Each witness saw the person differently, according to their 
own concept of looks and actions. Many innocent people have been jailed unfairly 
because of an inaccurate description. Is it any wonder that people have such a 
hard time getting along with each other? Peace conferences between world leaders 
often get nowhere because the culture and concepts of different countries are 
simply incomprehensible to each other. Even the word “Peace” has many meanings 
to different cultures.
 
The divinely-inspired writings of ancient times, set down on paper and published 
all over the world as the Bible, the Torah, etc., are considered absolute Truth 
by millions of people. No matter that the writings have been edited and even 
changed many times over the decades. Regardless of their sometimes vague 
content, there is Truth and power in the words. Even so, devoted followers of 
the great Masters have a way of bending the meanings to suit their own needs and 
desires. Religious leaders are notorious for interpreting selected passages to 
influence their listeners to attend every service or to be more generous in 
their giving.
 
In the give and take of modern life, Truth has become a very scarce commodity. 
Business tycoons bend and shape facts to suit their own purposes and for the 
best return on their investments. Even when exact Truth is demanded by law, it 
is usually added to the bottom of a document in very small letters that few can 
see or bother to read. Insurance documents are intentionally written with pages 
and pages of so-called information, that no one wants to read at all. The 
advertising industry depends upon their ability to make things seem what they 
are not. Glorified pictures of a product, attended by dancing girls with few 
clothes, draw the viewer to the store to buy, hoping to retain some of that 
glorious image with the product. Usually, the product is not as advertised and 
is overpriced. Instead of learning the lesson, the same viewer will get hooked 
on another product the same way. It is a matter of brain-washing by the 
advertising community and is done very
 competently. Children are a grand target; they tend to believe everything they 
see and hear. Truth is a concept that is becoming very rare indeed.
 
The world of politics is an important one, for out of the furor of the campaign 
trail and the ensuing elections come the men and women who become leaders of 
your countries. Television ads purporting to tell the Truth about the candidates 
are produced by professional ad men and women who really don’t care whether or 
not the image they create of the candidate is truthful or not; the idea is to 
get people out to vote for that person. As time goes on when that person is in 
office, reality becomes a rather sore point when compared with the promises and 
honorable image you voted for. Leaders of Middle East countries control their 
populations by using religion as a whip, threatening dire punishments if 
religious rules are not followed to the letter. This has denigrated to the point 
of shielding the real intent of the rulers to gain power and wealth, no matter 
how badly their people are treated. Even the most cruel and greedy leaders are 
venerated by their
 people, for they cannot see beyond the religious images they are given. Is it 
any wonder that young people today in any part of the world seldom have any real 
concept of Truth? It is an idea and a word that has little meaning, outside of 
the tendency to bend and use it for personal gain. 
 
The “Little White Lie” becomes a big black lie, when it is allowed to get out of 
hand. Parents have a difficult time of it today when their teen-agers are 
prodded by their peers to do exactly what they want to do and lie to their 
parents constantly about what they are doing, where they are doing it, and why 
they are doing it. No one wants to follow their kids around to check up on them, 
but it is rapidly coming to that. You say, come on, that has always been the way 
of things! Yes, of course, to some extent, but the attitude towards Truth today 
is much different because of the tremendous availability of television and 
electronic communication devices that can lead humanity down the wrong path 
entirely as wrongful messages and images fill the minds of young and old alike.
 
How does one find absolute Truth? How is it possible to sift through all of the 
inaccuracies and downright lies to find what is real? Reality and Truth have a 
partnership that can be a very dependable one, but it depends upon the 
individual to want to see them clearly and accept the facts, even if they are 
not to the advantage of that individual. Humanity has spent many years 
manufacturing a reality that fits their needs. Men and women spend time together 
and get married, taking for granted that the relationship will be one of love 
and understanding. Then comes the reality of who the mate really is and how they 
react to the everyday problems of life, marriage and parenthood. Divorce is 
taken for granted now when an inappropriate reality comes to light. How much 
wiser it would have been to get to know the person with whom you intend to spend 
your life. Day dreams and glorified images often do not hold up when reality 
finally enters  the picture.
 
Search for the real picture in anything you do or undertake. Taking someone’s 
word for it is a wonderful attitude, but gets a lot of people into trouble. In 
the world of tomorrow, a person’s word will be anchored in their very 
personalities, making it impossible to hold back the Truth. But, that time has 
not yet come. 
 
While seeking Truth in religious/spiritual writings or at the feet of 
religious/spiritual teachers, let your inner awareness question concepts that 
feel wrong and don’t hesitate to make a teacher dig for the very deepest 
explanation of what they are teaching. If they are using their students for 
their own means, those explanations will get very involved and soon come apart. 
There are inconsistencies even in the Bible that need to be examined and 
understood before you give your entire loyalty to what is written and published. 

 
Let’s examine what you consider Truth for yourselves. Have you actually come to 
the point where you speak out what you are really thinking or feeling? Have you 
the courage to tell someone they have hurt you – can you admit to mistakes you 
have made – can you tell the difference between making excuses for your actions 
and admitting to yourselves your mistakes? Truth produces Trust, another rare 
commodity today. 

If you find that others do not trust you for one reason or another, it’s time to 
do some serious self-searching. Trust is earned by truthfulness, loyalty, 
steadfastness, and an absolute determination not to cut corners on reality. It 
takes a person who has realized his/her spiritual wisdom and strength to be able 
to stay on this straight path, for society on Planet Earth has gone far astray 
in this matter. Guilt is a word that personifies the inner knowledge that IS 
Truth, constantly picking at the consciousness, reminding human beings that 
there is something that has not been put right – there is something amiss that 
must be paid for. How much better to start thinking about these things; write 
them down, then see what you can do to set them right.
 
How does one determine what is Truth and what is not? If something seems too 
good to be true, it usually isn’t. That is an old truism, but in these days of 
changes and miracles, give it a chance before dismissing something really 
wonderful! When the human mind has satisfied itself with the information it has 
discovered, it is then time to be quiet and present the question to the absolute 
discovery of Truth in the inner being. Let your inner spiritual self be the 
final judge. There is but one Truth – the determinations of the Supreme 
Intelligence that created all Truth. It is up to you to find that Truth within, 
no matter what the subject matter. It is there.
 
Ruth Ryden
 
From : Digest #22 from Ruth and the Masters of Light


--- On Sun, 8/11/09, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Major Hasan of the US Army
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Sunday, 8 November, 2009, 3:47
> 
> 
>  
>  
> 
> 
> JC,
>  
> I did not see Mr. Saidy's rejoinder because my
> mailbox was full and could 
> not receive any more Ellen postings. I am glad however that
> you forwarded it 
> with your response as I declog my mailbox. I must say I
> join Mr. Saidy in 
> encouraging sobriety on your part. I, like you, believe
> that all religious 
> adherents are equally capable of crime as they are of
> regeneration. So I am with 
> you in your urging of investigative authorities not to
> yield to emotive 
> fact-finding. I also would, along the lines of Mr.
> Saidy's caution, defer 
> to the military or police investigators once a CRIME
> has been committed, 
> whether the culprit is muslim, christian,
> harunamo, baha'I, hindu, or 
> adventist. I understand yours was caution to prevent
> backlash against 
> a religion for the crimes of its adherents, but in so
> doing while a crime 
> is being investigated, you risk defending the
> indefensible.
>  
> There are a lot of things done in
> DaarManso/Allah's name. Many a book has 
> been written in his/her name. All in the name of
> non-descript religion. 
> Nature, in her own defense against defamation, slander, and
> libel, has made room 
> for prosecution of religions. Any religion that cannot
> withstand the scrutiny 
> and the test of the truth, has long exhausted her
> welcome among the 
> children of nature. We must let the religions defend
> themselves.... For "they 
> are divine religions".
>  
> It is readily apparent that no religion is to blame
> for the actions, good 
> or bad, of their adherents. However, the value of the yield
> of religious 
> enterprises must be audited for DaarManso/Allah's
> sakes.
>  
> Haruna.
>  
> 
> In a message dated 11/7/2009 8:08:32 P.M. Eastern
> Standard Time, 
> [log in to unmask] writes:
> 
>   http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/11/07/washington.police.shooting/index.html
>     
>   http://www.cnn.com/2009/CRIME/10/28/michigan.fbi.shooting/index.html
>     
>   Hi 
>   Mr. Saidy,
>    
>   Thank you for sharing your analysis on the
> shooting spree that claimed 
>   a lot of lives. 
>    
>   I 
>   thought the above two links will expand this debate on
> the ongoing 
>   topic.
>    
>   I 
>   think I agree with the teacher of the wise Muhammad Ali,
> regarding condemning 
>   and shunning terror of all sorts. Terror is absolutely
> wrong, whether it is 
>   from government, individual or an organization(s).  Terror must be condemned 
and nib to
> 
>   the bud. Stamp Satan lower!! Lower, lower, lower, stamp
> satan 
> lower!
>    
>   yj
> 
> 
>   There is 
>   no god but Allah (SWT) and Muhammad (SAW) is His
> messenger. Fear and 
>   Worship only Allah alone!
> 
> 
> 
>   
> > Date: 
>   Sat, 7 Nov 2009 15:09:36 -0500
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > 
>   Subject: Re: Major Hasan of the US Army
> > To: 
>   [log in to unmask]
> > 
> > Hello Mr Jallow,
> > 
> > 
>   I agree with you that to lay the problem at the foot of
> Islam or Muslims is 
>   oversimplifying it. Bear in 
> > mind too that if what is reported in the 
>   news is true, that Major Hasan yelled
> "AllahuAkbar" while 
> > shooting 
>   innocent victims, religion cannot be discounted in
> piecing this whole thing 
>   together. 
> > 
> > There is such a thing call conscientious objector 
>   in the military and if Major Hasan hasnt invoked it, 
> > he could have, 
>   and if a board finds it credible, they will let him out
> of the military. He 
>   went to medical 
> > school on the military's dime and if he gets out 
>   under the conscientious objector discharge, the army 
> > will probably 
>   recoup the money spent on his schooling. 
> > 
> > Lastly, though you 
>   stressed that there is no excuse for Major Hasan's
> actions, you continued to 
>   delve 
> > into why people are disgruntled with America and its
> foreign 
>   policy. In a way, you are saying you dont 
> > agree with what happened 
>   but you understand why it happened. That is conjecture on
> your part and 
>   
> > it borders on what you struggled to escape from from
> the onset: 
>   Justifying Major Hasan's heinous 
> > actions.
> > 
> > What Major 
>   Hasan did is horrible and there is no justification for
> it. 
> > 
> > 
>   Saidy
> > 
> > 
>  
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