Arafang Suntou: Isabari. Ihako boying nye. Na naafoo be dooma...ke kendo le mu iti. Na mondinya mu Allah la baaro leti Arafang Suntu. Nga Allah tentu woolale. Ila moobaayaa taa yee moonya na mondinyaa to. Isabari baba yaa moy! Touray ngana manding mori...jong kelle faala...isabari! Thank you for partilally answering some of my questions about your perception of Baba's poem; even whereas you decided not to answer them initially. That is very nice of you. Have a great day. -Laye On Wed, Jan 13, 2010 at 2:55 PM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > Laye, your small mindedness is exposed yet again. There are thousand and > one villagers who are not affected by Baba's masterpiece, Including myself. > But it seems you are so petty, an independent analysis of interesting > subjects like this stale you. > There are countless radio station, Internet chat forums where, books are > criticise, poems subjected to vigorous commentaries, i refer you the 'riot > of writers', and BBC radio five live weekly book/film critics. > I don't bothered with love poems Laye, I respect Baba thus airing my views > on his poem. Bari as the Mandinka would say,, 'mondinya'. > Baba should distance himself completely from those whose sole way of > looking at broad issues is been defensive. He should also distance himself > from the clan crowds who unfortunately try to flood this topic for pettiness > sake. *Baba has written scores of satires, and critical pieces for over > fifteen years, so Laye, Baba don't need your protection or defending. Carry > on with man worshipping. * > *I think it is good for Baba and his writings that, people analyse his > thoughts in completely different ways. The attitude of faking accolades is > not taking us anywhere.* > *Thank you so so, a nice this so and so. This is nonsensical and > buffoonery. Let us be critical with issues, and stop pretending.* Laye, > you should have known that by now. your are incapable of winding me up. I > looked at the poem in two separate angle, one of them been the perception it > will have on a villagers, bearing in mind, only Baba can say for sure what > was going on in his mind at the time of penning the poem. The obvious > reference which is too simplistic is to look at the poem, stanza by stanza. > I took an overall view of the piece. The piece convey to us a critical > message. Me being a villager is not an issue. I have lived in more than four > cities in my life including our own, therefore, why should i be jitery over > a few line poem? > Baba, be aware of false pretenders, they clamour to let others think for > them, don't at all encourage them. There are those gambian writers who find > it hard to leave out arrogance in their writings, their personal prejudices > reflect in the smallest jot of ink drop, I have no time for those. > *My final word on the piece is that, the usage 'idiot' was an > exaggeration. No one is an idiot, if Yahya was an idiot he wouldn't have > been capable of ruling us for over fifteen years with all our Buhabas and > mister every disciplines up to today.* Therefore underestimating our > opponents makes us all idiots. If the poem is about some erstwhile editors > who can't seems to leave people' privacy alone, again they are not idiots, > since they have made us all fear their dirty hands. Laye, life is not a > simple road leading to Brikama. > Suntou > > On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 11:14 AM, A Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Baba: >> >> I think it's time you tone down the poems a bit. The Village Idiots are >> very jittery these days. You're causing too much heartache man.....tone it >> down bro, please. Perhaps a love poem will do next time. Village Idiots are >> romantic beasts too you know... >> >> -Laye >> >> >> On Mon, Jan 11, 2010 at 2:50 AM, Baba Galleh Jallow <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >> >>> Indeed, indeed Suntou. You display a very keen sense of perception in >>> your insightful and deep analysis of my poem. You definitively bring a fresh >>> new perspective to it and propose a discursive angle that is hard to beat. >>> Quite amazing, really. That's the spirit brother. Thanks and keep those >>> sharp intellectual juices flowing. >>> >>> Baba >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Sun, 10 Jan 2010 10:58:40 +0000 >>> From: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: Re: So The Village idoits call for some respect (In Maafanta) >>> >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> >>> The poetic license you use Baba allow me to see the village setting in >>> the poem as allusive. The village idiot paints a disrespectful picture. It >>> further cement the unfortunate attitude some has of villagers. It is good >>> that you expose to us your village roots, which is fine but sadly your poem >>> is too harsh on the villager in question. >>> The dissatisfaction in the poem is that, one would expect a season >>> writer or commentators like yourself to be open minded and less sarcastic of >>> your perceive targets. But in this case you were not. >>> The villager who may have incur your wrapt is place in and among the >>> union of villagers and bashed for crimes only you felt the pain about. >>> I am only expressing my take on the poem. I am sure you willl allow for >>> diverse analysis of it, since that is the essence of dropping it in the >>> public. >>> Another vital area villagers will find discouraging is that, a man of >>> your statue is fit to become a broad base leader, but if your ink depict a >>> villager that tragic way, what hope should they have of Baba salvaging >>> anything for them. >>> The poem is bigger than the few line Baba. Villagers continue to say, the >>> setting was unhelpful. The villager in question may be guilty according to >>> you, since we can only assume here, only you are sure. Is Yahya Jammeh >>> indeed a villager? Are we villagers any more, yourself and all of us >>> absconded villagers. The story continuous. >>> No offense intended. >>> Suntou >>> >>> On Sat, Jan 9, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Baba Galleh Jallow <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >>> >>> Suntou, >>> >>> I am surprised at your interpretation of my poem as an assault on >>> villagers. I wonder where on earth you got the idea that I am calling all >>> villagers idiots. Let me just say loud and clear that I am a villager, my >>> father is a villager, and my mother is a villager. So are all my >>> grandparents and great grandparents. Indeed, I come from an ancestry of >>> villagers. That said, I will let you put the pieces together. >>> >>> Baba >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Sat, 9 Jan 2010 18:40:55 +0000 >>> From: [log in to unmask] >>> Subject: So The Village idoits call for some respect (In Maafanta) >>> >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> >>> *The latest Poem of Brother Gallah at Maafanta can be slice in many >>> different bits. Moreso using poetic license to allow for different >>> interpretation. Our famous villager is Yahya Jammeh. But this poem is not at >>> all an affair for Yahya. We the villagers demand that, town folks allow >>> us the respect we deserve. An end to little assault on villagers. Village >>> idoit, indeed, they may have read the masters avoid the obvious. treating >>> light weights issues with magic pens. Indirecting continuously whilst aiming >>> higher. I say, respect to villagers.* >>> *www.maafanta.com* >>> ** >>> *And so the tears flowed….* >>> *by Baba Galleh Jallow* >>> >>> And so the tears flowed >>> For the death of the children >>> Conceived in the throes of anger >>> Born into the arms of fear >>> Strangled by the claws of evil >>> Clad in garments of prickly good!! >>> >>> And so the tears flowed >>> At the demise of honest thought >>> At the rape of the people’s intellect >>> The bastardization of love and piety >>> The ascendancy of slimy rot >>> Donning the robes of high order!! >>> >>> And so the tears flowed >>> At the passing of the truthful bard >>> At the era of the village idiot >>> Turned saint >>> At the specter of the mean village crook >>> Turned champion defender of the poor!! >>> >>> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To >>> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >>> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search >>> in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >>> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact >>> the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >>> [log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Windows Live Hotmail: Your friends can get your Facebook updates, right >>> from Hotmail®.<http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_4:092009> >>> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To >>> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >>> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search >>> in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >>> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact >>> the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >>> [log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >>> >>> >>> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To >>> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >>> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search >>> in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >>> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact >>> the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >>> [log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Windows Live Hotmail: Your friends can get your Facebook updates, right >>> from Hotmail®.<http://www.microsoft.com/middleeast/windows/windowslive/see-it-in-action/social-network-basics.aspx?ocid=PID23461::T:WLMTAGL:ON:WL:en-xm:SI_SB_4:092009> >>> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To >>> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >>> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html >>> >>> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >>> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact >>> the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >>> [log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >>> >> >> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To >> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html >> >> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the >> List Management, please send an e-mail to: >> [log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >> > > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To > unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web > interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the > List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤