Hello Rene,
I have always admired your tone. I thank you for this amicus of PDOIS and
your efforts to yield PDOIS a good turn always. That is all that can be expected
of a partisan.
Although I am convinced PDOIS has more significant issues to dispense with
than the ambiguity in her name, I will share some ideas with you on socialism
hoping you can share it with PDOIS. This is because it is the Socialism you have
addressed here.
The acronym PDOIS = Parti Democratique Pour L'independence et
socialisme.
Now in an English speaking country, a political party generally chooses
acronyms that portray her name in English. If we translate PDOIS in English, it
will be:
Democratic Party for Independence and Socialism.
And the acronym will have been DPIS, SPID, DIPS, or any permutation
thereof.
You could say that PDOIS could come up with no English acronym that is
easier on the tongue of the voter so they had to go to the French language to
develop PDOIS. ANd it is pronounced Doy. Now think about this for a minute. For
the large majority of Gambians, pronunciation of PDOIS (Doy) presents enormous
difficulties, much more than for instance SOPI-D or SPOD or PODI. This is where
PDOIS' first problem was. It appeared to many Gambians that PDOIS was an idea
hatched from Senegal (they had Parti Socialiste in Senegal) and given Halifa's
education and time in Senegal, it became apparent that the Gambians perceived
PDOIS speaking to the people of Senegal. Now you could dismiss this perception
outright, I am just here to share some ideas with you that were prevalent when I
first heard about PDOIS and that was in 1981. And if you dismiss it as
insignificant, you will agree with me that for an English
speaking population that is barely literate in English, the idea of a
political party with a French name, is a bit condescending or inconsiderate at
the very least. I hope you can yield value from this.
The second idea I wish to share with you and PDOIS, is that Socialism, by
its very nature is country or community-specific. There are no various
definitions of socialism. There is only one definition of socialism which is
what was construed by the originators of the idea. Remmember, socialism is a
heavily-debated concept, which material and its permutations you can find in the
treatises Marx, Engel, et al...... Therefore, I discourage you and PDOIS from
re-defining socialism. You will come to realise that socialism is not bad for
any community, what is significant is how you apply it in your community. That
is what the originators of the idea advised. And the fact that PDOIS chose to
include it in their name to follow the word Independence, is very significant.
Each community has her own construct of socialism but not a different
definition. And because PDOIS is a political party, intending as it were, to
persuade Gambians to vote them in governance, it would be a no-brainer that
PDOIS ought to tailor her message, whatever they are, to Gambians. I hope you
and PDOIS take this under counsel. It is the Gambian voter's understanding of
Socialism that PDOIS must accept and embrace. Not the other way round. In other
words, PDOIS is not free to re-define socialism, and then require Gambian voters
to accept that definition. I think you understand what I'm saying. I hope you
work on that. When you embark on re-defining an idea that was initiated by
other, you have just set yourself back decades to begin again. Gambia is a
dynamic community. Perhaps, this is the most significant error of PDOIS. They
are playing catch-up to the other political parties in Gambia.
Remmember, I said PDOIS has other more significant issues besides name and
communication. That is not to say these tow are not vital. It sets the tone for
PDOIS' anticipated dynamism when addressed.
Thank you Rene for you. Have you ever heard a Gambian say "PDOIS is too
rigid", or "PDOIS is inflexible"? It is this socialism ideology which even given
PDOIS' magnanimous efforts to escape from, remains PDOIS' intrinsic philosophy.
WHat that does to PDOIS is that they are so certain of the enormous values of
socialism, they are perplexed as to why Gambians don't see them the way they
wish to portray themselves. At the end of the day, PDOIS is in the business to
earn votes with the hope of governing Gambia according to established socialist
dogma. Please forget the sovereignty and consciousness bits that you are
hardpressed to peddle. Sovereignty and consciousness are the purview of the
citizen. Not a political party.The party does what we the citizens tell it to
do. NOT THE OTHER WAY ROUND. I am always offended when PDOISards pretend that
they know what is good for me and my fellow citizens, instead of embrace what we
tell them we desire. Take this to heart. Halifa is only a phlange of the PDOIS
philosophy. ANd I sincerely feel sorry for the man. He is on a personal mission
however and he cannot be faulted for that. He pursues his mission and PDOIS'
mission with enviable passion and he must be commended for that. It is for
PDOISards however to appreciate him or guide him in propriety.
Haruna.
In a message dated 2/19/2010 3:11:44 A.M. Eastern Standard Time,
[log in to unmask] writes:
Yanks,
The problem is, most of the
people who talk about PDOIS
negatively are so fixated on the Socialism in
its acronym, that they
tend to ascribe positions or infer ideas and
thoughts to them that they
do not hold.
In all the years I have followed PDOIS's writings and speeches,
you can
hardly hear or see the word Socialism featured prominently in
its
narrative. And this is for a good measure; because what some tend
to
understand about Socialism, and the principles of socialism that
PDOIS
wanted to assimilate are two different things. Remember, some of
the
principles of socialism are being assimilated in the most
capitalist
oriented economies. No wonder some people are accusing
Barack Obama of
being a socialist or couuminst.
Thus the focus for
PDOIS was, and still is, primarily on its
agenda; its aims and
objectives; its programs and the principles that
guide its conduct and
actvities. I would want to belief that any
serious critic would take issue
with its agenda; its aims and
objectives and its programs
rather than to cast aspersons; or
denigrade the immense
contributions they have made,.which give impetus
to some of the
political thought that has shaped, and continue to shape
our discourse on
politics.
Long before PDOIS was born, and
at a time when few knew or
understand what is in our constiution, a
pamphlet entitled: "The Gambia
In Chains" was being circulated and gained
prominence among students
and young people. Most of the young people at
the time started to take
interest in politics.
Thereafter, for the first time in Gambian history, for it has
never been
done by the Jawara regime, a group of people take it upon
themselves to
explain what is a sovereign republic; what are the
provisions in our
constitution and how they empowered the people to
elect representatives;
they explain our system of taxation and the
country's indebtedness which
also contributed to the poverty of the
people.
Thus began the genesis of the political awakening, that has become
the
hallmark of PDOIS.
The concept, the mission and vision
that I have enumerated, and
which Haruna has identified as universal
ideals, are the bedrock that
has always been consistent with the party's
platform. .
Rene
-----Original Message-----
From: yanks
dabo <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent:
Thu, Feb 18, 2010 7:08 pm
Subject: FW: Let us turn a new page
Rene
wrote:
"Trust me, I feel uncomfortable to belabor this issue
any
further; but, if the knowledge base is ideological, it has never
been
baseless. It is premise on sound intellectual
reasoning".
Rene, to start with, i must disappoint you that i
can't trust you,
since
i don't know you. Secondly, you can't be
serious that these borrowed
political sound bites that even the APRC shared
in its political
manifesto,
is the founding ideology of the
PDOIS.
Furthermore, you must be kidding to think that you can select
words
from
your dictionary or present your view of the PDOIS as the
founding
ideology
of the PDOIS.
So save the rethoric that
the PDOIS "started with a concept; the idea
of a sovereign Gambian identity
that goes far beyond the frontiers of
our partisan or ethnic dispositions,
to carve the destiny of a nation
that
we all proudly call our
home".
Less you failed to acknowledge, the Gambia had already gained
it
sovereign identity that goes far beyond the frontiers of our
partisan
or ethnic dispositions, well before the minds behind PDOIS had
started
their brainstorming. And that ideology had been the golden
principle
of the Jawara regime. So save me the deja
vu.
"Second, it has a mission to awaken the conscience, and
arouse
the intellectual curiosity and consciousness of our soverieign
Gambian
reality; so much so that we will be able to fathom not only with
what
is wrong with what we do, but also how best we can do it better".
Rene
In other words a repetition of the above, except that the concept
had
grown into a mission.
"Third, it has a vision to build a
strong democractic culture;
promote the rule of law; civil liberties;
freedom of speech and
expression; independence of the judiciary and
legislature; a viable and
sound economic policy and a political structure
the engenders
presidential term limits, and give opportunity to every
Gambian to
serve his/her country on the basis of what he or she can
deliver,
rather that what or where he or she belongs". Rene
This
third submission goes at length to prove my point that
you are not really
expressing the ideology of the PDOIS;
but that of the founding principles
of the American constitutions.
The S' in PDOIS stands for Socialism, yet
you seemed to have forgotten
every bit of policies pertinent to the
socialist agenda; instead you
seemed
to have copied a passage from
Barack Obama's speech and claimed it as
the founding ideology of the PDOIS
of the Gambia.
Rene, you indeed have not stated the PDOIS
ideology yet, which
i as i have stated before is baseless.
Try
harder next time, Rene.
I'm not fooled.
Nemesis
Yanks
> -----Original Message-----
> From: yanks
dabo <[log in to unmask]>
> To:
[log in to unmask]
> Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2010 6:27 pm
>
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
>
>
> Rene
wrote:
>
> "There has been a consistent knowledge base in
the approach that
PDOIS
> sympathizers address issues; and it all
falls within the contours
of
> what PDOIS has
> been
arguing for years. That is why it would be difficult to
separate
>
how Halifa thinks with what Modou writes".
>
> I hope
with hindsight the PDOIS would have detached itselves from
such
> a baseless
> ideological knowledge base, that yielded
no fruit for the
party, except
> to boost egos
> of
certain individuals in it into thinking that they masters of
the
>
earth!
>
> Furthermore, the only reason why one can't
separate the thinking
of
> Halifa and Modou
> Nyang is that
both have proven to be very deceitful with truth.
Where
> as Halifa
> misrepresented elections
figures to prove his point; Modou Nyang
> misrepresented
>
Halifa into some hero like person, who saved the Gambians
from Yahya
> Jammeh's
> witch hunters. When that has not
been the truth.
>
> I still can't believe that this
Nyang Mr stated what he stated. In
fact
>
since Jammeh pardon
> Halifa about the witch craft saga
issue, the topic had become a
taboo
> for Halifa, until
>
Mr Nyang started it. Yet Nyang misrepresented him as the
hero who
saved
> the day.
>
> Even
that truth about Nyang, you folks wish to see him as some
hero
> presenting the the
> truth here.
>
>
You guys must be kidding!
>
> Nyang is a liar,
simple!
>
> Nemesis Yanks
>
>
>
> > Date: Wed, 17 Feb 2010 15:06:25
-0500
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Let us
turn a new page
> > To: [log in to unmask]
>
>
> > Bailo,
> > I have had a series of private exchanges
with Modou, and I can
> > also detect his sharp intellect and wit. It
is not
surprising,
> though,
> > given that he has been a
journalist with foroyaa. There has
been a
> > consistent
knowledge base in the approach that PDOIS
sympathizers
> >
address issues; and it all falls within the contours of what
PDOIS
>
has
> > been arguing for years. That is why it would be difficult
to
> separate
> > how Halifa thinks with what Modou
writes.
> >
> > Rene
> >
> > -----Original
Message-----
> > From: bailo jallow
<[log in to unmask]>
> > To:
[log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Wed, Feb 17, 2010 1:45
pm
> > Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
> >
> >
Modou,
> >
> > I ought to point out that you are so
articulate in your
> contributions
> > that some of our fellow
G-Lers think that Halifa is the one
> writing for
> > you. It
is really funny. That's a credit for you. Keep it up.
> >
>
> I also highly appreciate your role of sharing with us Foroyaa
>
articles
> > that ever focus on pertinent Gambian issues.
>
>
> > Finally, I must also commend you for not reciprocating
against the
> > Halifa-haters by bashing their preferred
candidate. That said,
> > everybody reserves the right
to...................................
> >
> >
Bailo
> >
> > --- On Wed, 17/2/10, Modou Nyang
<[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
From: Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re:
Let us turn a new page
> > To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Date: Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 18:07
> >
> > Koto
Bailo, thanks again for your wise counsel. This approach
is
>
not
> > the most desirable especially at this time and period of
our
> troubles.
> > Nonetheless, sometimes trashing out issues
is necessary in an
> attempt
> > to find a common ground. What
i am doing now is the least i
had
> > expected to be involved in
rather it is the opposite that
> interests me
> > the
most.
> > However, i cannot just watch a gang of few spreading lies
and
> rumours
> > in such respectable foras with many a senior
citizens of
ours. And
> to
> > your question, NO, i do not
see my self as having any
influence in
> any
> > decision
whatsoever at this period. I just happen to have
some
>
opposing
> > views to what is being paraded as the best solution to
our
> problem.
> > May be i am wrong too.
>
>
> > Nyang
> >
> > --- On Wed, 2/17/10, bailo
jallow
<[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
>
> From: bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject:
Re: Let us turn a new page
> > To:
[log in to unmask]
> > Date: Wednesday, February 17, 2010,
11:22 AM
> >
> > Gentlemen,
> >
> > I
don't know whether you realised that you are still going
round
>
in
> > circles. If a united opposition stance against the
dictatorship
> > depended on you, then the dictator is at greatly
at ease.
Please
> tell
> > me you have near zero influence
in this regard.
> >
> > While you are still going round and
round, the incumbent is
busy
> > misusing our public funds buying
the loyalty of unsuspecting
> Gambian
> > voters. Please let us
instead give emphasis to alerting our
> friends and
> >
relatives that all these donations by the dictator is merely
to
>
buy to
> > entrench his tyranny over Gambians. Abdoukarim, you and
Banka
need
> to
> > work on Brufut.
> >
>
> I could already hear some political pundit telling us that
since
> any
> > future Government in the Gambia is likely
to resort to such
> tactics
> > albeit on a lower scale, then
it is no big deal. It is indeed
a
> big
> > deal.
>
>
> > All said and done, it remains the right of every qualified
Gambian
> who
> > wishes to contest for political office to
do so. Therefore no
> person
> > should be maligned into
supporting another's candidate. That's
> > coercion! It is both
uncivilised and unacceptable. I expect
the
> > leadership of the
UDP or NADD alliances not to resort to or
fall
> for
> >
this.
> >
> > Halifa is not the barrier to the realisation
of Ousainou's
> presidential
> > ambitions, nor is Ousainou the
obstacle to the fulfilment of
> Halifa's
> > Agenda 2011. Let
us therefore stop feigning that such is the
case.
> >
>
> Finally, I urge you all to leave my niece, Kumba Gaye out of
this
> > discussion; she is just 12 and have no interest,
whatsoever in
> > politics. Let the writer try another
pen-name.
> >
> > Bailo
> >
> >
>
> --- On Wed, 17/2/10, yanks dabo <[log in to unmask]>
>
wrote:
> >
> > From: yanks dabo
<[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Let us turn a new
page
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date:
Wednesday, 17 February, 2010, 13:25
> >
> >
> >
Suntu
> >
> > Who does this Modou Nyang thinks he is;
asking you to
call "Darboe
> and
> > ask him
>
> whether they have reached the decision that the only alliance
he
> Darboe
> > and the
> > UDP would be a part of
is one which endorses his candidature
for
> the
> >
2011
> > Presidential elections".
> >
>
> Maaaaaaaaaan!!! Tell this Ndokey Nyang not to play with us!
Who
> does he
> > thinks
> > we are; his errand
boys!!
> >
> > As for his claim that he
wants "to be fair to the UDP
leadership.
> I
> > know
they are
> > matured people and know what is at stake. We are dealing
with
the
> > future of the
> > Gambia and I do not want
to judge the UDP by the words of its
> > sycophants".
> >
> > He seems too late for to reckon that fact, as he had
already
> > been unfair to the UDP
> > leadership and
judged the UDP leadership in his reaction to
the
> UDP
>
> UK's rejoinder.
> > Less that reaction had not been written by
Nyang but by his
Halifa
> > Sallah; to make
> > him
not to realise his errors.
> >
> > One other
point for Mr Nyang, is that we wait for his article
> about
why
> > UDP's strategy
> > will fail, which he
promised to publish on Freedomnewspaper.
I'm
> sure
> > his
knows it will
> > no go unchallenged.
> >
>
>
> > Yanks
> >
> >
>
>
> >
> >
> > Date: Wed, 17
Feb 2010 09:07:24 +0000
> > From: [log in to unmask]
>
> Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
> > To:
[log in to unmask]
> >
> > Suntou, one more thing
before I come Daffeh’s way. This just
came
> to me
> >
while scribbling in response to Sonny. Because you are the
>
coordinator,
> > I saw your photo with Darboe during his visit to the
UK, you
look
> good
> > bro, however that still does not
make put you in major
decision
> making
> > position in the
party especially with regards to opposition
unity.
> > And when I
wrote to Uncle Haruna the following: "If you want
to be
> >
Darboe’s Press Secretary could you give us the UDP position
on the
>
way
> > forward instead of pouring venom on Halifa for being bold
enough
> to
> > come up with concrete proposals?", Yanks
tried to take
ownership
> of it.
> > But I am not
interested in his ranting but only for the part
he
> quoted
>
> Daffeh as thus: "Halifa Sallah and his PDOIS Party should put
>
their
> > personal pride, egos and idealism aside and immediately
embrace a
> UDP
> > led alliance without any obnoxious
precondition whatsoever".
This
> is
> > where I want to
tackle Daffeh.
> >
> > But before that I need your help
first. I want to be fair to
the
> UDP
> > leadership.
I know they are matured people and know what is
at
> stake.
>
> We are dealing with the future of the Gambia and I do not
want
to
> judge
> > the UDP by the words of its sycophants. Before I
write I
would
> want you
> > to call Darboe and ask him
whether they have reached the
decision
> that
> > the only
alliance he Darboe and the UDP would be a part of is
one
>
which
> > endorses his candidature for the 2011 Presidential
elections.
> >
> > I am still not convinced that the UDP
leadership will be
calling
> on
> > people to give it money
so that it prepares for failure. That
is
> > political suicide
and any body who helps them in that venture
must
> be
> >
seen to be either driven by nepotism, tribalism or
opportunism.
>
Only
> > people who are infected with such disease could reason in
the
> > irrational manner Sonny Daffeh chose to do. The issue that
the UDP
> > Sycophants refuse to look at is how to bring about
change.
> >
> > Suntou, please do this for the sake of our
country. I know
you
> were
> > with Darboe not long ago but
you can talk to him again at
least
> one
> > more time.
Agreed? Good, and thank you. I will be expecting
you
>
within
> > the next 24 hours to give a reply and I will then prove to
you
> that it
> > is the positions you take which makes
Agenda 2011 the best
option
> > available so far for those who
want change.
> >
> > That is why you are focusing on hate
messages against Halifa
and
> not
> > showing why the
agenda is unworkable. I am using my real name
but
> you
> >
people are hiding to a point of using the name Kumba Gaye to
>
attack me
> > for exposing the bankruptcy of your
position.
> >
> > Nyang
> >
> > --- On Mon, 2/15/10, suntou
touray
<[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
>
> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject:
Re: Let us turn a new page
> > To:
[log in to unmask]
> > Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 8:50
PM
> >
> > Modou, I can see that you are desperate to tag me
with every
> negative
> > jargon. Bring them on. What you are
failing to notice is
that, the
> way
> > UDP dominate in
terms of support on the ground, is the same
right
> where
>
> you are. So hold your horse on the negativity, it doesn't
bother
> me.
> > KKK, we know who the real ones are.Suntou
and his UDP fellow
> members
> > are focus on what matters,
exposing the dubious political
> propaganda by
> > Halifa is
just a small part of our work. Don't get affected
to the
> >
level you are willing to stoop low as some of your coward
>
colleagues.
> > Halifa should also stop writing stuffs for you,
people can
tell
> the
> > difference. It is making me
cringe, in as much as wish to see
him
> do
> > the right
thing, taking unnecessary disastrous route is
something
> i
>
> don’t recommend he will do.Wherever Suntou is confirmed a
KKK,
> Modou
> > Nayan and his friends will be loyal
members too.Too cheap
> friendSuntou
> > On Mon, Feb 15,
2010 at 6:35 PM, Modou Nyang
> > <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> > Uncle Haruna, I got you loud and clear. You do not want to
wade
> into
> > political mathematics and you are not the
Press Secretary of
the
> UDP.
> > There is nothing for us
to debate. I will then go back to the
UK
> club.
>
>
> > However I must tell you that I have noticed in your writing
that
> there
> > is a generation gap between us. This is
why you cannot
identify
> some of
> > my cultural
symbolism's. Even though it is out of place for a
> nephew to
>
> give advise to an uncle I do see the desire in you to do
something
> > constructive for the Gambia. I therefore hope that
you will
give
> up the
> > posture which gives you the
image of a person who want to be
on
> top of
> > every body
else.
> >
> > I really could not understand what problem you
have in the
> provisions
> > of the constitution being
disseminated in a practical and
relevant
> way
> > ad
infinitum. It is our national document and we need to know
it
>
to
> > promote the rule of law. I also could not understand why you
felt
> that
> > those who give birth to educated children
cannot understand
> government
> > budgets if explained in
their own language. The problem of
the
> Gambia
> > is not
the people but those who claim to know but are
illiterates
>
in
> > our local languages. Hence they cannot communicate what they
have
> > learned to the grass-roots.
> >
> >
Certain kinds of information are meant for the goose and
another
>
to the
> > gander. I certainly wanted to challenge you on your
comments
> regarding
> > the Brufut donations but now I think I
will leave you alone.
> However, I
> > will not close my
chapter with you for the moment without
> expressing my
> >
disappointment at your comment that you did not read Agenda
2011
>
but
> > used it as toilet paper.
> >
> > Please
don’t be a partner to Suntou’s friend whose
Ku-Klux-Clan
>
and
> > Rush Limburg attitude is so full of hate and prejudice that
does
> not
> > allow him to see good in anyone who does not
bow down to his
> wishes.
> > Uncle Haruna Halifa and
those in their fifties belong to the
last
> > group of the
generation of people who have now reached
retirement
> age
>
> and you the people in your 40s (am guessing, as you informed
me
> that
> > Sam was your teacher) belong to the first
group who should be
> leading
> > our generation. I feel
ashamed that those of us in our 30s
could
> be
> > reading
such vulgar words from people who should be our role
> models.
>
>
> > You must promise that any time you speak again you
will do
so as
> a
> > responsible elder who aims to inspire
the generation just
after
> you. If
> > we follow the
footsteps of Suntu and the haters Gambia is in
> trouble
> >
for a long time to come. I will now devote my time to them to
>
prevent
> > them from misleading themselves since they can mislead no
other
> person
> > in the world. There intolerance is
already becoming apparent.
Even
> > Jeggan is now PDOIS even
though he is advocating for a
primary
> that
> > include
people who are not members of political parties. What
> could be
>
> more democratic than that? To them it must be their leader or
no
> one
> > else. We are now beginning to see who the real
sycophants are.
> >
> > Nyang
> >
> > ---
On Mon, 2/15/10, Haruna Darbo
<[log in to unmask]>
>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: Haruna Darbo
<[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Let us turn a new
page
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
Date: Monday, February 15, 2010, 1:24 PM
> >
> >
>
> Yanks, Thanx for sharing. Although I don't know the man, but
I
> liken
> > Daffeh to Carl Rove and James Carville. The
man is simply
> excellent.
> > You would wish UDP/NRP had a
1000 Daffehs, Karambas, SUntous,
> Ansus,
> > and
Yankses.
> >
> > Aaaaaaallleeeeeh! Haruna.
>
>
> > ----Original Message-----
> > From: yanks dabo
<[log in to unmask]>
> > To:
[log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Mon, Feb 15, 2010 12:40
pm
> > Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
> >
>
>
> >
> > For the attention of Modou Nyang, Pa
Samba Jow (Coach),
Halifa
> Sallah,
> > and the rest of the
anti-UDP
> > Movement!
> > I bring to your attention
this article culled from
> freedomnewspaper,
> > though with a
slight change to its heading!
> >
> >
NADD Should Have Done Better
> >
> > By Sonny
Daffeh, UK
> > Mr Editor,
> > Please allow me space
to respond to Jeggan Grey-Johnson’s
article
> of
> > 9th
February 2010 which was published in your well
established
>
medium
> > under the heading; ‘‘Agenda 2011; The Opposition Leaders
Must
Do
> the
> > Right Thing.’’
> >
> > While I agree that the opposition should get it right this
time
> around,
> > I do not however agree that Agenda 2011
is the right basis
for
> this.
> > This is an ill-conceived
theory that was propounded by a
> disingenuous
> > political
ideologue on the basis of two premises namely; that
the
>
NADD
> > alliance did not work because it was unable to gather
significant
> > amount of votes in the 2006 presidential
elections, and also
that
> the
> > UDP led alliance did not
work because it had registered a
drop in
> votes
> > from
their 2001 electoral standing. While I agree with the
former,
>
I
> > beg to differ with the latter. That premise is not only
flawed, it
> is
> > also fraught with the propounder's very
own personal
prejudice
> against
> > a possible UDP led
alliance in 2011.
> >
> > Although, it is true that
the UDP registered a drop in votes
from
> their
> > 2001
standing, this however cannot be attributed to the type
of
> >
alliance [party led alliance] they adopted in 2006. As was
rightly
>
> indicated in the UDP- UK rejoinder of 1st February 2010,
UDP’s
> drop in
> > votes resulted from two things; their
own lack of adequate
> preparation
> > thanks to their prior
membership of NADD, and the
unprecedented
> low
> > voter
turnout [58.58%] that was witnessed in 2006 which when
>
compared
> > to the 2001 voter turn-out [89.71%], indicates a drop of
31.13%
> and
> > this is notwithstanding the fact that the
national voter
register
> had
> > been updated with 219,630
new voters in 2006. Going by the
results
> of
> > 2006
presidential election, it doesn’t appear that these
voters
>
had
> > voted for a different party rather than the UDP. They just
didn’t
> vote.
> > Otherwise, why is it that NADD barely
crossed over the 5%
> threshold?
> >
> > Some
might argue that the low voter turn-out was a direct
result
>
of
> > opposition disunity. While this may be true, it does not
however
> lend
> > any credence to Agenda 2011 as there is
no evidence which
suggests
> that
> > this was a
specifically directed protest against the UDP led
> alliance.
>
> Even if the connection between opposition disunity and the
voter
> > turn-out is validly made and I am not saying it is not,
it
would
> appear
> > that the situation would still have
been the same
irrespective of
> > whatever type of alliance any
party might have chosen to
adopt, be
> it
> > party led
alliance, the so-called umbrella party or indeed a
grand
> >
coalition. Therefore, it is not the nature of party led
alliance
>
that
> > is the issue here but the factors that inhibited the
realisation
> of its
> > full potentials in 2006. That is
what folks with genuine
interest
> in
> > opposition unity
want to talk about, not some kind of
superficial
> > political
theories that are specifically invented to
circumvent
> the
>
> rules of conventional politics in furtherance of a particular
>
> individual’s selfish agenda. A grand coalition as spelled-out
in
> Agenda
> > 2011 is pretty much akin to the NADD
coalition - the only
> difference
> > being the name - and
would be vitiated with the same problems
that
> > eventually led
to the breakdown of NADD. Hence, it is not an
> option. It
> >
is just a mere but crude academic exercise. Therefore and
instead
>
of
> > asking the leaders to commit the same mistake and somehow
expect a
> > different result or levelling false accusations
against the
> leadership
> > of the United Democratic Party –
accusing them of paying a
lip
> service
> > to the call for
unity -, Jeggan should have been bold enough
to
> ask
> >
Halifa Sallah and his PDOIS Party to put their personal
pride,
>
egos and
> > idealism aside and immediately embrace a UDP led
alliance
without
> any
> > obnoxious precondition
whatsoever. That is the only thing
that has
> > never happened
before and it is about time history is made.
> >
> >
The UDP has proven itself over and over of being the dominant
> force
in
> > Gambia’s opposition politics. Any future alliance/coalition
of all
> > opposition parties must therefore be built around
them. This
is a
> > sacred principle of any democratic political
dispensation and
no
> amount
> > of spinning and hypocrisy
will be allowed to circumvent it.
The
> earlier
> > the
fringe parties recognise this, the better for our chances
of
> >
forging a unified alliance of all opposition parties against
the
>
ruling
> > APRC in 2011. This is not about helping someone to become
an
elite
> as
> > Halifa would say. It is about adhering to
the rules of
> conventional
> > politics; coalitions are
usually led by the biggest party in
the
> group.
> >
Jeggan’s suggestion of a primary election as a mechanism for
>
selecting
> > a candidate for a possible coalition of all opposition
parties is
> both
> > misplaced and untenable. Primaries
are normally an internal
party
> > contest where individuals
contest for the
leadership/candidature
> of a
> > given
party in a forthcoming general election. Coalitions of
> >
independent sovereign political parties don’t contest
primaries to
>
> determine who their leader should be. That is normally
determined
> by
> > the results of the preceding general
election. This is what
we
> have
> > seen in Israel,
Germany and Italy just to name a few. There
is no
> > reason why
this should not apply to the opposition in the
Gambia.
> > In
2006, 127,473 electorates voted for the opposition
combined.
> Out
of
> > this, 81% voted for the UDP candidate and 19% for NADD –
the
> so-called
> > PDOIS and PPP-OJ coalition – This exhibits
a clear expressed
will
> of
> > the Gambian people which is
valid for five years – it expires
only
> > after the 2011
presidential election – and have therefore
> effectively
> >
rendered the whole idea of a primary utterly obsolete as a
>
legitimate
> > candidate can easily be determined from these
statistics.
> > Jeggan’s claim that PPP-OJ and PDOIS coalition [NADD]
registered
> an
> > increase of 100% in their 2006 score is
really laughable. I
> couldn’t
> > stop asking myself whether
he is in his trees. This shows
that our
> dear
> >
friend is detached from both the facts and the political
reality
>
on the
> > ground. PPP and PDOIS never contested a general election
together
> as an
> > alliance prior to the 2006
presidential election. Hence,
there is
> no
> > prior
statistics that could be used to determine whether they
have
> >
registered an increase or a decrease in 2006. What is however
>
crystal
> > clear is that this alliance or whatever they chose to
call
it, is
> not
> > fit for purpose for it is an
extremely weak one. Out of
> forty-eight
> > constituencies,
they had 1,000 or more votes in only five
> > constituencies. In
thirty-three constituencies, they had less
than
> 1000
> >
votes and in ten constituencies less than 100 votes. I see no
>
potential
> > in such a diabolical electoral performance.
>
>
> > As for who leads the UDP, that is a matter for the
general
> membership
> > and if Jeggan doesn’t like the current
leader, he should join
the
> party
> > before its upcoming
congress and fight from within.
Otherwise, he
> > should, frankly
speaking, shut up.
> >
> > I hope he will do
more research next time before going to
the
> press.
> > SS
Daffeh
> > Essex, UK
> >
> >
> >
Date: Sun, 14 Feb 2010 09:09:55 +0000
> > From:
[log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: Let us turn a new
page
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
"...The issue is in fact not so much about the figures but the
> >
ludicrous claim that they somehow indicates a manifestation of
> >
electoral shun on the nature of alliances adopted by both
NADD and
>
UDP
> > led alliance prior to the 2006 presidential election i.e.
party
> led
> > alliance and the so-called umbrella party.
That is absolute
> nonsense.
> > Although there may have been a
degree of voter discontent over
> > opposition disunity or the
incumbent’s employed harassment and
> > intimidation
tactics,-depending on which side of the story
you
> want to
>
> believe- there is absolutely no evidence that the low
>
voter-turnout
> > seen in 2006 was as a result of the types of
alliance adopted
by
> either
> > NADD or the UDP. This
defeats the whole essence of Halifa’s
agenda
> 2011
> > and
that is exactly what UDP-UK rejoinder was all about..."
> >
> > Suntou, with your above statement I am done with you and
your
> other two
> > guys. I will focus on Uncle Haruna. And
when I return you and
your
> > friends might have solved their
invented puzzle of who is
chatting
> with
> > them.
>
>
> > Uncle Haruna, do not worry much about Coach
understanding
your
> posting.
> > I am with you all the
way. Just bear with me a little I will
be
> back.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Sat,
2/13/10, Haruna Darbo
<[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>
> > From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
> >
Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
> > To:
[log in to unmask]
> > Date: Saturday, February 13, 2010,
5:49 PM
> >
> > Suntou,
> >
> > I
take your counsel into advisement. Pa Samba is a dear
friend. He
>
and
> > I will come to understandings. It takes a little nudging
and
> > explanation for him but it shall come to pass. I am not a
novice
> at
> > conflict resolution.
> >
> > Here is what I advise of you though.
> >
> > Today, today. If Halifa for some reason went into a trans
and
> declared
> > - Let us have a total opposition union and
let UDP/NRP lead
it,
> wIll
> > you and UDP/NRP waste your
times to join
> >
PDOIS??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
> >
> > This is the question I want you and UDP/NRP and even GMC
to
> ponder.
> > After you do, you will throw away Agenda-2011
and focus on
> building
> > your parties and alliances. As I
can see, both UDP/NRP and
GMC
> have
> > shortcomings in
party administration that leave a lot to be
> desired.
> >
Simple tasks take days or months to complete if at all. When
your
>
> leader is busy defending Femi Peters, the party's entire
>
activities
> > stop. WHY???? If Ousainou is not free, the party's
executive
> committee
> > need to ensure the continued
functioning of the party. WHY is
> that?
> > Some due-diligence
does not require money. Organising and
visiting
> with
> >
your supporters regularly as far away as Koina and Jimara and
> >
cultivating new supporters should be done all the time,
Ousainou
>
or no
> > Ousainou. NADD/PDOIS has the same problem or worse. But the
time
> you
> > partisans spend on chatter could be better
used developing
your
> > parties. The way I see it, none of the
parties is capable of
> governing
> > Gambia in this state. And
if you should dream about forming a
> singular
> > union, you
will have multiplied the inefficiencies ten-fold.
> >
>
> So focus your time and energies on value - building and
>
strangthening
> > your parties. We are not interested in a United
Opposition
any
> more. At
> > least we will not depend on
that idea as the means to remove
> Yahya. So
> > don't feel
burdened to form a united opposition on account of
the
> >
people.
> >
> > Thank you and may DaarManso continue
to bless all of you in
your
> > self-interests.
> >
> > Haruna.
> >
> > -----Original
Message-----
> > From: suntou touray
<[log in to unmask]>
> > To:
[log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Sat, Feb 13, 2010 5:05
pm
> > Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
> >
> >
Haruna, your comments are simple, logical and straight
forward.
> But the
> > sad facts is that, some people
cannot even think for
themselves
> without
> > Sallah
telling them how. Halifa's attempt to be Jack of all
trade
>
meant
> > that, he did injustice to himself and UDP/NRP analysing
absent
> voters
> > and the synergy effect with him being a
mortal man could'nt
> quantify.
> > Halifa should display his
formula of his cirtic of the
UDP/NRP not
> > adding the
absent voters to the pool. Absent voters affected
all
> the
>
> parties, including PDOIS and NDam.
> > Haruna, your efforts are
honourable and honest. Where you
> criticise me
> > and my
attempts, i recognise the reasoning in them. When we
send
>
our
> > rejoinder, Halifa's few fans in American made all sorts of
noise,
> some
> > saying:
> > Halifa is under
attack, we should stop all talks
> > Now who did we responded to? The
wind or Halifa? Did this
people
> > actually read anything Halifa
wrote?
> > My hunch is they don't. But when Mr Grey-Johnson again
repeated
> Halifa
> > mistakes, i didn't hear this people
who nearly went into
coma
> when we
> > their patron,
when Darboe was branded power hungry etc by a
> misguided
>
> bigoted partisan.
> > The two face mentality is the real reason
Halifa is
continuing
> what he
> > doing. Behind his back
his own guys are dissolution with him,
> among
> > people, they
defend his ideas even after knowing they don't
make
> sense.
>
> And as for Pasamba, true peace will come to pass when you are
bold
> > enough to confront Halifa. But for now, it will be a
dream.
> > Haruna, keep writing.
> > Suntou
>
>
> >
> > On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 1:55 PM, Haruna
Darbo
> > <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Olfactor
you can't help but take a swipe at yours truly. What
is
>
wrong
> > with you men? I'll have you know you can't have a better
friend
> than
> > Haruna. I just got off the phone with a
friend. He tells me
> president
> > Clinton is doing
marvelously and with our continued prayers,
he
> should
> >
be back up, straight up, to continue to assist in Haiti and
>
Northern
> > Ireland. I told him I have a friend in Dublin who could
hold
the
> torch
> > for Ireland as the president recovers.
So I messed up your
> hibernation
> > long before you perceived
it. SOmeone will be looking for you
over
> > there to lend all
Ireland a hand as she works through
devolution.
> Won't
> >
you do Ireland a good turn? Migrant worker or not, you still
live
>
in
> > Ireland. So why go into hibernation on account of your
>
friend Haruna
> > when you could be working for Northern
Ireland???? Learn to
not
> take,
> > take, take. Learn to
give, give, give. Besides I did not hear
> where you
> > tried
to get our mutual friend Demba out of box. I know your
life
>
has
> > some value. I just gotta figure it out for you. I still love
you.
> >
> > Now then Dad, you did a marvelous
job in amicus of Halifa's
> electoral
> > arithemetic which you
inform us was the basis for Agenda
2011. You
> must
> > be
commended for this. It is what mortal man can expect of a
>
partisan.
> > I totally admire your zeal and sport. I guess it is not
necessary
> > therefore for me to read Agenda 2011 afterall. I
will share
some
> notes
> > with you and they will be
brief.
> >
> > In my view, Halifa's un-intended
dishonesty does not lie in
> > the arithemetic adduand. As a
philosopher and sociologist par
> > excellence, Halifa must have been
taught that linear
arithemetic
> is not
> > terribly
valuable for philosophers and sociologists. That is
why
>
linear
> > algebra and additional math were introduced in those years
where
> > sociologists and philosophers shared their agonies in
explaining
> human
> > conditions and considerations. Throw
in the philosopher and
> sociologist
> > who wishes to use
politics to solve the landmark equations of
> social
> >
engineering. Why do people vote? Why do they vote the way
they do?
>
>
> > Let me be the first to share with you that the
adduand exclusively
> > should not be considered in
electoral arithemetic. You cannot
> explain
> > the
distributive and associative properties only by using
addition
>
> alone, addition and subtraction alone, Or addition,
subtraction,
> and
> > multiplication alone. Electoral
arithemetic must include the
use
> of
> > addition,
subtraction, multiplication, division, the
operations of
> >
integral and derivative science are a complex use of these
four,
>
and
> > they cannot even begin to tackle electoral mathematics.
Secondly,
> you
> > must endeavour to include the time
value of elections and
votes
> and the
> > time value of
human considerations. That is where the
accountant
> comes
>
> to the aid of the philosopher/sociologist/politician. Even
>
further,
> > electoral calculus contains some intractable variables
such
as
> personal
> > considerations of the voter that are
a function of his/her
state
> of
> > mind at the time of
voting. What you must not do under any
> > circumstance, is to
extrapolate or compare votes of different
> periods
> > or
periodic elections. Your quandry is not complete even
after you
>
> satisfy the foregoing. There comes the matter of vote-buying,
>
> vote-selling which Halifa himself was at pains to convince us
>
happens
> > during the elections in Gambia. Well throw in the mix of
the
> Gambian
> > voter's problems of Yahya's intimidations,
electoral
riggings, and
> > ballot stuffings, why you have just
thoroughly
discombabulated
> yourself.
> >
>
> In essence, the dishonesty displayed by Halifa, though
unintended,
> is a
> > result of using a dishonest formula.
Now when you skew that
> formula to
> > portray another
opposition party as incapable to win future
> elections,
> >
you burden straightforward dishonest calculus with odious
bias. If
>
the
> > premise therefore of AGENDA 2011 is the result of
such
> arithemetic,
> > well you know the rest of the
story.
> >
> > Therefore, I urge Halifa to apologise
to the readers of
Agenda
> 2011 and
> > all other
opposition parties, and when we work on a roadmap,
to
>
cease
> > redefining past elections in Gambia. Past election results
in
> Gambia
> > will not afford any valuable or meaningful
discernment for any
> > opposition party. And Foroyaa, based on such
arithemetic
wishes
> > opposition parties to go back to the
drawing board. For
> what?????????
> > We are all unduly
mesmerized by the sanctity of a total
opposition
> > union. I
advise sobriety and caution against disingenuity and
> pretense.
>
>
> > I commend you nonetheless for efforting amicus of
Agenda 2011
and
> > Halifa.
> >
> >
Olfactor, any minute now you'll hear a knock on your door.
Nobody
>
> hibernates in Ireland anymore. She invests enormous amounts
to
> market
> > herself as a lively tourist destination.
You should help her
in
> that
> > regard. I love you
all.
> >
> > Haruna.
> >
>
>
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From:
Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>
> > To:
[log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> > Sent: Sat,
Feb 13, 2010 4:54 am
> > Subject: Re: Let us turn a new page
>
>
> > Nyang,
> >
> > Keep up the good
work, however dealing with grouchy
> >
characters is difficult, for reason and reality is not
their
> forte. Let
> > me go back to my hibernation as our
grouch par excellence
here has
> > snorted at people who have
decided to ignore his incessant and
> > vapid rambling. I do not
want to be splattered by his grotty
> stuff, so
> >
hibernation here we come.
> >
> > Nyang once
again keep the fire burning and keep helping me
out of
>
my
> > hibernation with your good work. Thanks for a very well
written
> > piece.
> >
> >
Best,
> >
> > Mboge
> >
> >
>
> On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:42 AM, Modou Nyang
> >
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Suntu,
> >
> >
> > How Many times am I to prove that you do not
do your homework
> well? I
> > can see that you are trying to
get allies from all those
People
> with
> > hate messages.
This is weakening your course. Such hate
messages
> cannot
>
> isolate any one.. We have seen those types of people here in
the
> US
> > during Obama’s campaign. They cannot explain
why they hate
him.
> >
> > Consequently their
hate messages worked out very well for
Obama.
> Here
> >
too you are giving Halifa more publicity than he has asked
for.
>
The
> > worse thing that you did to your self is to raise issues
which led
> to
> > the challenge for Halifa to explain the
role he played in
NADD. I
> am
> > still waiting to read
part 3 so that things will be clearer
since
> your
> > camp
is still trying to distort the truth even though no NADD
>
leader
> > had come out in public to do so.
> >
> > Your last hope to discredit Halifa is your claim that he
distorted
> the
> > result of the 2001 Presidential
elections just to prove that
the
> UDP
> > lost more votes
than it really did, when compared to 2006 so
that
> its
> >
leadership would be discredited. In my reaction to your
rejoinder
>
I
> > decided to skip the issue of the exact number of votes your
party
> the
> > UDP had in the 2001 election in order to do
a proper research
on
> it. I
> > have now scanned the
results of the 2001 Presidential
elections
> with
> > the
signature of the then Chairman of the Independent
Electoral
> >
Commission Gabriel Roberts.
> >
> > However, before
going into your distortion of the results I
would
> want
>
> to help one of your friends to understand what I meant when I
said
> > Darboe was not brave enough to tell his colleagues what
he
wanted
> and
> > stuck by it before they ventured to
form NADD. He
misunderstood me
> > completely and strayed into
accusing Halifa of promoting that
a
> brave
> > person
should be selected to lead an opposition alliance. My
> position
>
> is that if Darboe is strongly convinced that he should lead
and
> others
> > should follow. He should simply declare
that for all to
understand
> and
> > then proceed to sell
his agenda to the people. Whoever wants
to
> join
> > him
would do so and those who would not want to join him
would go
>
on
> > with their own programmes. Since UDP is not ready to
compromise on
> > leadership it should make that clear and stand
by that
decision
> and
> > should not join any arrangement
where leadership would have
to be
> > negotiated with other
stakeholders.
> >
> > let me now deal with the
results of the 2001 Presidential
> elections.
> > Halifa made
it clear in his Agenda 2011 that UDP had 149448
votes
> in
>
> 2001 while NRP had 35,671 votes. Please read the Agenda
again.
You
> will
> > get the real figures rather than approximations.
If you want
a
> copy of
> > the Agenda i will mail it to
you electronically.
> >
> > Halifa indicated that the
two parties formed an alliance in
2006
> along
> > with
GPDP and had votes numbering 104,808 votes..Halifa
concluded
>
that
> > compared to the 2001 figures the two parties lost 80,301
votes.
> Where
> > then has Halifa gone wrong?
> >
> > Could you not do simple addition and subtraction? Add
149,448
> votes to
> > 35,67. You should get 185,119 votes.
Subtract 104,808 from
> 185,119.
> > What is your answer? Is it
not 80,301 votes. Halifa is dead
> correct and
> > you the
members of the UDP camp in the UK are dead wrong.
> >
>
> I have investigated and got the results a long time ago. I
wanted
> to
> > check whether you have leaders who would
guide you to know
the
> truth.
> > The fact that you are
still persisting in claiming that
Halifa’s
> > figures are wrong
has forced me to request for a scanned
> declaration of
> >
results signed by The Chairman of the IEC and I hope you will
now
>
> apologise to Halifa for your misleading statements. I am
surprised
> by
> > the fact that you are still clinging to
the view that Halifa
> quoted
> > wrong figures even though
your leaders in Banjul should be
able to
> tell
> > you the
truth instead of leaving you to humiliate yourselves
> before
>
> world public opinion. I have decided to share the copy of the
>
> declarations of the 2001 election results with the online
media
> for all
> > to see for them selves since I cannot
directly place it here
> unless as
> > an attachment.
>
>
> > Furthermore Suntou, you claim that it is the UDP who
enabled
> Halifa to
> > win his Serrekunda Central Seat. Let us
look at the results
of the
> > elections in Serrekunda since the
UDP was put up by the three
> major
> > parties of the first
Republic, that is, the PPP, the NCP and
the
> GPP.
> >
> > In 1997, the UDP campaigned against Halifa Sallah in
Serrekunda
> East
> > and put up a major PPP supporter,
Bakary Manneh, as their
> candidate in
> > order to exploit
OJ’s popularity as the MP at the time of the
> coup. The
> >
results were as follows Halifa had 8, 529 votes, The UDP had
8,
>
> 067votes and the APRC had 9, 575votes. Contrary to your
position
> that
> > the UDP put up a candidate against
Halifa in the 2007
National
> Assembly
> > elections to
humble him while it left Sidia Jatta’s seat
> uncontested
> >
since he was a humble PDOIS leader, Halifa did not stand as a
> >
Presidential Candidate in 1996. It is Sidia Jatta who stood
as a
>
> candidate against the UDP. And in the 1997 National Assembly
>
elections,
> > the UDP also put up a prominent NCP supporter in Wuli
against
> Sidia
> > Jatta. Alhamdu Conteh who stood as The UDP
candidate had
1,098,
> Mamadi
> > Karlo Jabai of the APRC
had 4, 641 and Sidia Jatta of PDOIS
had 5,
> 499.
> > Sidia
won despite UDP"s attempt to contest the seat.
> >
>
> In the 2002 National Assembly elections, the UDP boycotted the
>
> elections and called on all its members to stay away from the
>
polls. In
> > Serre Kunda Central, Halifa had 5, 563 votes as a PDOIS
Candidate
> while
> > the APRC candidate had 5, 143 votes.
Halifa won.
> >
> > In the 2005 by election in Serre
Kunda Central, Halifa had 5,
911
> votes
> > as a candidate
of the alliance while the APRC had 3, 984
votes.
> Ther
> >
alliance added only 348 votes to the 2002 votes Halifa had as
a
>
PDOIS
> > candidate. As a NADD candidate Halifa had 4, 302 in the
2007
> National
> > Assembly elections, UDP had 1, 548. and the
APRC had 6, 386.
> >
> > It should be clear that
Sidia and Halifa both won their seats
as
> PDOIS
> >
candidates irrespective of the UDP. UDP made a big mistake in
> >
contesting the Serrekunda central seat. It did not spoil
anything
>
for
> > Halifa. It spoilt its own name. Many young people started
to
> describe
> > it as a party that pours the sand in the
porridge if it is
not
> invited
> > to share in the eating.
UDP UK is also doing more harm to the
UDP.
> I
> > will
take up this issue later.
> >
> > Suntu you concluded
that: "The UDP U.K knows very well,
Halifa's
> > students will
come trying to defend the indefensible. They
will
> again
>
> continue to twist the facts and try to blame others for
Halifa's
> > inability to convince Gambian voters. What the UDP
propose
which
> is
> > respectfully talked by sincere
Gambians, Halifa don't want to
pay
> > attention to that. What he
want is to talk directly to
Gambians,
> the
> > civil
society, the NGO's etc and then create a cadre of
people who
>
will
> > later chose him as their saviour."
> >
> > This is your allegation. This is your fear. You do fear
that
> Halifa
> > could convince the Gambian voters. Your
objective therefore
is to
> > prevent this through premeditated
character assassination.
You
> claim
> > that I am trying
to distort facts. What facts are we trying
to
> distort?
>
> If Halifa cannot convince the Gambian people then why is he
your
> > headache. Halifa is not Darboes problem and Darboe is
not
Halifa’s
> > problem. The problem of the Gambian people
should be our
problem
> .Allow
> > me to quote what Halifa
said recently.
> >
> > "Interestingly enough,
in 2001 the APRC candidate had 242,
302
> votes
> > when it
forged no alliance with the NCP. At that time there
were
>
501,
> > 304 registered voters. Suffice it to say, even though the
number
> of
> > voters increased by 169, 032, by 2006 the
votes of the APRC
could
> only
> > increase by 22,102
votes. The UDP candidate had 149,448 votes
in
> 2001.
> >
Even though it developed alliance with NRP, which had 35,671
votes
>
in
> > 2001, its votes went down 104,808 votes in the 2006
elections,
> despite
> > the increase in the number of
registered voters by 169, 032
> voters."
> >
>
> "Foroyaa: What is your advise?"
> >
> > "It is
therefore necessary for political leaders to go back
to the
> >
drawing board and map out a new way forward. How is the
opposition
>
to
> > attract the 542,055 voters who did not vote for them is
the
> subject at
> > hand. This is what Agenda 2011 is all
about. Even though I am
not
> > excluding acceptance of
candidature, I have already declared
that
> the
> > best
option is to select a neutral candidate who will be able
to
> run
a
> > non partisan transitional cabinet for a period of 2 to 5
years and
> then
> > step aside after a genuine multi party
contest. It is left to
> Gambians
> > to decide whether they
have a better way forward."
> >
> > Please ask Darboe
to state his proposal for a way forward so
that
> we
> >
know what the UDP want for the Nation. That is better than
endless
>
> bickering by the spokesperson of the party in the UK .
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --- On Wed,
2/10/10, suntou touray
<[log in to unmask]>
>
wrote:
> >
> >
> > From: suntou touray
<[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Let us turn a new
page
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
Date: Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 4:12 PM
> >
> >
>
> Bailo, good to know your ears are wide open. I thought you
>
understood
> > the famous English saying "one man's meat is another
man's
> poison".
> > What you believe to be crap from Suntou is
a gem to some and
vice
> verse.
> > I have always
been a fan of politics Bailo, however it
>
doesn't dominate
> > my life. I reveal here last year that, i
was reading and
> consulting
> > with some Gambian opposition
parties. trying to know certain
> aspects of
> > their politics
and also to maintain how i can relate to them.
> > It was after this
period, i decided the best option out there
is
> the
> >
United Democratic Party. Hence my joining their ranks.
> > I
appreciate your boldness in stating on several occasion
that a
>
party
> > led coalition is the solution. Not every PDOIS member wish
to
> accept
> > this fact, but in life we have to accept and
politely
disagree.
> > The situation for us all are very similar.
Our central
concern
> is to
> > see that a government
comes to power that will respect the
rule of
> law
> > and
adheres to good governance. And also a government that
will
>
abide
> > by term limits and allow for diaspora Gambians to come
home
> anytime and
> > stand for election without any
restriction like it it is now.
> > UDP/NRP all agrees with this
principles and also PDOIS.
Therefore
> the
> > deliberate
error some people are throwing about saying that,
> Ousainou
>
> will not abide by term limits is the biggest nonsense.
> >
Ousainou is selected by the UDP at there annual party
congress
to
> lead
> > the party, yet Jeggan is complaining that
Ousainou didn't
hand
> over to
> > someone. Who is the new
expert to lecture the UDP on how to
select
> a
> > party
leader?
> > Let Halifa hand over the leadership of PDOIS to Sam Sarr
before he
> too
> > passes the required age. After all, the
American system seems
to
> be if
> > you cannot get the
presidency, you pass it on. Let Sam step
up.
> Jeggan
> >
can lecture his PDOIS members but not us.
> > The annoying thing in
all this exchanges is that, those
who cry
> baby
> >
when we reacted are all in hibernation, this world.
> > No wonder
truth is relative. Bee kaa foo ila bori leya, tiw
tiw (
>
each
> > person shout for your runner). Things are moving,
albeit
slowly.
> But
> > progress is been made. Ajarama,
and Ibalen jam. Ya Allah
dandu
> meen
> > foof kata e
katato. Ameen.
> > Suntou
> >
> >
> > On
Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 10:56 PM, bailo jallow
> >
<[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> > Suntou,
>
>
> > I heard you loud and clear. But we gotta move on and not get
stuck
> to
> > the past.
> >
> > As for
the NIA, they are everywhere in the Gambia. Recently a
> young
man
> > was pulled out of a public bus at Denton bridge and
merciless
> beaten to
> > a vegetative state by our so-called
security forces. His
crime?
> The bus
> > in which he was
travelling was like all vehicles on the road
at
> the
> >
time ordered off the road because the Presidential motorcade
was
>
> expected along it. The wait was apparently long and this
young
man
> made
> > the mistake of telling someone he was was
speaking with on
his
> mobile
> > that they were waiting
for the for the convoy of our stupid
> president
> > to pass.
An NIA informant overheard his indiscretion and
decided
> to
>
> teach him a lesson. When the bus reached Denton Bridge; the
>
informant
> > ordered the driver of the bus to halt the bus, the
young chap
was
> > pulled out and his alleged crime reported to
the security
forces.
> Their
> > immediate reaction was to
beat him to a vegetative state for
his
> > indiscretionary words
against the President.
> >
> > It is therefore ordinary
private citizens who are paying a
higher
> price
> > under
the status quo than public personalities like Ousainou,
>
Halifa,
> > OJ, Seedia and the rest, the immense sacrifice of the
latter
> category
> > nothwithstanding.
> >
>
> Honestly, I am not a strong moslem as you. Evidence suggests
that
> are
> > not a taleban otherwise the only technology
you would
approved of
> is
> > the killing machines. I
guess you own a tv and even a
computer. As
> such
> > If
you were a taleban, your fellow talebans would have been
> seeking
to
> > publicly flog for your deviation. So you cannot be a
taleban!
> Though I
> > must confess that sometimes I tend to
mis-consider you as one
very
> > angry ayatollah who considers
so-called PDOIS fanatics like
myself
> as
> > supporters of
the great Satan. I sincerely hope that is not
so.
> > Remember,
you cautioned us sometimes ago that politicians are
not
> to
be
> > trusted. Your transformation into one within this short space
of
> time
> > is amazing. Who and what is primary
motivation? I suppose
Halifa
> is not
> > the one.
>
>
> > Anyway, keep up the good work for your party and the Gambia
in
> general
> > and please leave the crap out. I concur
that you reserve the
right
> >
to.........................
> >
> >
> > Best
wishes
> >
> > Bailo
> >
> >
>
>
> > --- On Sun, 7/2/10, suntou touray
<[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re:
Let us turn a new page
> > To: [log in to unmask]
>
>
> > Date: Sunday, 7 February, 2010, 12:10
> >
>
>
> > Bailo, your spin was well intention albeit your inability
to
> accept the
> > facts of your Messiah's calamity. He cannot
hide neither run
away
> from
> > his mistakes. We are
all willing to move on and try to talk as
> > brothers. But what we
cannot leave alone the continuous blame
game
> > Halifa
attributed to others leaving his own saintly person
out.
> >
Politics is not a career for saints Bailo, the sooner Halifa
>
recognises
> > that the better. And the gang mentality his supporters
manifest is
> a
> > turn of for even his supporters,
ganging up against those who
> speak
> > about his politics
will only cause Halifa less cloud.
> > I also notice that, some of
his guys start calling me Taliban,
> > extremist and what have you.
If they are willing to stoop so
low
> in
> > their
misunderstanding of politics, my body feel for them.
> > Bailo,
you are strong a muslims brother who actively partake
in
>
islamic
> > actvist, those that make you a Taliban? I know some of
your
> Islamic
> > commitments, but I also accept that, as
Muslims, we should be
> > interested in politics, science,
literature, acceptable art,
> > philosophy, just anything we can
enhance our minds with.
> > But alas, the gossip that Suntou is
intolerant pumped up by
the
> PDOIS
> > boys has
reached me a long time. Some of this liers are even
in
>
cahoot
> > with the Foroyaa establishment providing them with
equipment
and
> the
> > like.
> > My Islam allows
me the privilege to be an enterprising
citizen
> wherever
>
> I live. I am a Muslim by choice and will practise Islam to
the
> best of
> > my ability and will put across the little
I know
God-Willing. I
> respect
> > the laws of
the land i reside in. But If my comments on
Halifa
>
incense
> > some to the extent that, they are willing to vilify and
attribute
> > nonsensical tags to me, then I am
vindicated.
> >
> > Let us see how things pan out, we
standby our findings and
> whenever it
> > becomes necessary,
we shall respond to all false analogies on
UDP.
> For
> >
those who wish to be taken seriously including you Bailo,
distant
>
> yourself from errors, no matter who commits them, only then
people
> will
> > accept your subsequent cries.
>
> Modou's abysmal response require no countering from us. he
place
> > Halifa in even more serious doubts hence putting across
Halifa's
> line.
> > He is the brave soldier and others
not. The facts speaks
> different.
> > Ousainou's office is man
regularly by NIA agents, doing all
they
> can to
> > deter
him from actively politics. His clients harassed, his
>
associated
> > harassed, yet the foroyaa guys go about their business
selling
> papers
> > and earning yet claiming to be
sacrificing more than others.
It
> make me
> > laugh
mate.
> > Suntou
> >
> >
> > On Sat, Feb
6, 2010 at 2:01 PM, bailo jallow
> > <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
> > Comrade Modou,
> >
> > Your
clarification efforts are highly appreciated. Let us now
move
>
on
> > and chart a new course towards helping bring about unity
within
> the
> > opposition movement. In our unity is our
strength. However, I
> strongly
> > believe that the general
opposition movement would again fail
to
> > realise our common
goal of achieving a new Gambia for all if
we
> > continue to rely
on already tried and tested counterproductive
> > strategies of
destructive criticism aimed at promoting one's
> candidate
> >
while vigorously attempting to tarnish that of another's.
Some may
>
> argue that come on, this is merely politics at play. I
personally
> > consider such tactics as a smear campaign. Anyone
on the
frontline
> of
> > our national politics
conscientiously opposing the
retrogessive
> > policies and
actions of the unjust APRC regime deserve
nothing but
> > support
and encouragement from everyone craving and
campaigning
>
for
> > positive changes in the Gambia. Ousainou Darboe, Halifa
Sallah,
> Femi
> > Peters, Seedia Jatta, Mai Fatty and many
others like them
> therefore
> > only deserve our genuine
respect and good advice. I had
concluded
> long
> > time
ago that under the current poliitcal dispensation in in
our
> >
beloved country the easiest and most convenient resort for
any
>
person
> > seeking only their own personal interest would be to join
the
APRC
> > Party.
> >
> > Our primary
objective should be towards ensuring that the
> leaderships
> >
of the UDP-led Alliance and the remnants of NADD coalition
would
>
both
> > sooner rather later pursue a strategy of meaningful
co-operation
> with
> > one another towards achieving an
over-due united front
against the
> > incompetent and callous
APRC regime. That way, the doubters
would
> have
> > been
confounded and hope lost by the silent majority of
Gambians
>
would
> > be restored.
> >
> > Let confidence
building measures between all sides of the
> opposition be
> >
pursued in earnest from now on as time is precious sliding
away.
>
>
> > Please try to help get your dear uncle bailed out after
being
> found
> > guilty and sentenced yesterday for making a
wrongful
attribution
> to our
> > dear colleague, Halifa.
Coincidentally, the amount payable
which
> is
> > any,
should be envoyed to him in jail for the benefit of good
>
Gambian
> > causes he has been diligently campaigning for.
>
>
> > Finally I wish to commend organisations such as the STGDP
and
GDP
> who
> > have been focussing on just that. Let us
not be daunted nor
> depair;
> > ultimate victory is assured
for the cause of any struggle for
> justice,
> > freedom and
respect for human dignity.
> >
> > Let us turn a new
constructive page. Let all good works go
on.
> Amen!
>
>
> > Bailo
> >
> >
> >
> >
--- On Sat, 6/2/10, Modou Nyang
<[log in to unmask]>
>
wrote:
> >
> > From: Modou Nyang
<[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re: Foroyaa News :
HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE
APRC
> TOUR
> > To:
[log in to unmask]
> > Date: Saturday, 6 February, 2010,
3:50
> >
> > Bailo,
> >
> > Uncle
Haruna understands Halifa very well. This is why he
prefers
>
to
> > rely on the issue of credibility and not the election
statistics
> which
> > Halifa relied on to draw his
conclusion. My uncle is among
those
> who
> > say that
politics is about numbers. In fact the other camp
rely on
>
this
> > so much that they refer to some parties as fringe parties.
They
> know
> > what Halifa is talking about but like the
proverbial ostrich
they
> > prefer to bury their head in the
sand.
> >
> > You see, some of these people do not
care whether there is
change
> or
> > not. What they are
interested in is the change they want. If
they
> > cannot get it
they prefer to join Jammeh. They should not
fool the
> rest
>
> of us. Where is Waa who used to criticize Halifa. He accepted
the
> post
> > of a governor while Halifa rejected the post
of a Minister.
This
> is the
> > difference between him and
his critics. He wants genuine
change
> for the
> > long
suffering Gambian people.
> >
> > Halifa has made it
quite clear that the lowest common
multiple in
> > politics is
numbers and concluded that the numbers which
rejected
> both
>
> opposition and ruling party are so overwhelming that none
could
be
> > considered credible if that is the yardstick of
measuring
> credibility.
> > He therefore concluded that those
who want change should go
back
> to the
> > drawing board.
He offered a proposal and called on others
with
> better
>
> proposals to offer their own. Where is the bickering? All
honest
> > Gambians have seen the light and cannot be deceived
any more.
They
> know
> > who is power hungry and those who
want to empower the people.
> >
> > Nyang
>
>
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 2/5/10, bailo
jallow
<[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
>
> From: bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject:
Re: Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE
APRC
>
TOUR
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Friday,
February 5, 2010, 6:41 AM
> >
> > Please note that
perspective does not always represent
reality is
> what
> >
I intended to express in my previous contribution.
> >
>
> Bailo
> >
> >
> > --- On Fri, 5/2/10, bailo
jallow
<[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
>
> From: bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject:
Re: Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE
APRC
>
TOUR
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Friday, 5
February, 2010, 11:22
> >
> > Please note that perspective
does not always represent
reality is
> I
> > intended to
express in my previous contribution.
> >
> >
Bailo
> >
> > --- On Fri, 5/2/10, bailo jallow
<[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
From: bailo jallow <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re:
Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE
APRC
> TOUR
>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Friday, 5 February,
2010, 11:12
> >
> > Haruna tendered "So here Evian you will
notice that my notes
were
> in
> > response to your notes
and I encourage you to read your notes
> where you
> >
re-presented what Halifa said."
> >
> > This is how I
represented Halifa's statement: "You seem to be
in
> denial
>
> but that is sadly the truth. The APRC is far from credible
and
> from the
> > perspective of the potential electorate,
neither exists a
more
> credible
> > alternative.
Otherwise, the opposition would have won last
time."
> >
>
> Please note that perspective does always represent reality.
>
>
> > The truth isI did not misrepresent Halifa; you did.
Instead
of
> > acknowledging your error, you are trying to shift
it
elsewhere.
> That's
> > absolute dishonesty!
>
>
> > Bailo
> >
> > --- On Fri, 5/2/10, Haruna
Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
> >
From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
> > Subject: Re:
Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE
APRC
> TOUR
>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date: Friday, 5 February,
2010, 0:55
> >
> > What i will do Evian is to leave my
comments close to yours
and
> > Halifa's in order that the
proximity may yield further
> comprehension
> > where cacophany
meddles.
> >
> >
> > [-----Original
Message----- From: bailo jallow
> >
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> >
Sent: Thu, Feb 4, 2010 12:20 pm Subject: Re: Foroyaa News :
HALIFA
>
> SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE APRC TOUR
> > Sheikh Haruna, The
following is exactly what Comrade Halifa
was
> > reported to have
stated (emphasis mine):
> >
> > “Some supporters of the APRC
said that the opposition parties
in
> the
> > Gambia are
not credible. They should also add that the ruling
> party is
>
> not credible. Their assessment of Gambian politics as it
stands
> would
> > then be correct and balanced."
>
>
> > And this is how you interpreted it:
>
>
> > "As to which party official speaks for the other parties,
Halifa
> shared
> > with us that there is no credible
opposition or ruling party.
What
> he
> > should have said
was that his party PDOIS was not credible.
Then
> he
> >
would have been speaking for himself because he is more
intimately
>
> aware of PDOIS' credibility. i think he was echoing
>
Waa's assertions
> > that there is no credible opposition. The
problem is instead
of
> > focusing on his party's credibility, he
attempted to match
Waa's
> > cluelessness. In so doing he
admitted Waa may be right."
> >
> >
> >
>
> So here Evian you will notice that my notes were in response
to
> your
> > notes and I encourage you to read your notes
where you
> re-presented
> > what Halifa said. Then come back
here and read the entire
quote as
> it
> > appeared in the
Foroyaa note, undoctored by you. What you
will
> conclude
>
> is that even given your sophomoric representation, my comment
(Not
> > interpretation) here does capture the cluelessness of
PDOISards
> > fantastically. You see the APRC supporters are
smart people
> compared to
> > Halifa. They are not interested
in selling the demerits of
the
> ruling
> > party because
that is who they support. Now Halifa advising
them
> to
> >
ALSO say that there is no CREDIBLE RULING PARTY, in addition
to
>
There
> > is no CREDIBLE OPPOSITION PARTY, and that they will have
been
both
> > CORRECT and BALANCED is where he put his foot in
his mouth.
> Implicitly,
> > Halifa agrees with their
supposition that there is no CREDIBLE
> > opposition party as
CORRECT. Because there is more than PDOIS
in
> the
> >
opposition parties, Halifa is thereby speaking for other
parties.
>
That
> > is the reason I shared the advice about when in court and
accused
> of
> > theft, your defense ought not be that not
only are you a
thief in
> > agreement with your accuser, your
accuser is also a thief.
The
> grander
> > picture Bailo is
when you consider you are an independent
voter.
> And
> >
you hear Halifa utter such. How does it make you feel about
him
>
and his
> > incredulous party PDOIS. Forget NADD at this time for
there
is
> really
> > nothing in NADD besides PDOIS. Please
let me know if this is
still
> not
> > clear to
you.
> >
> > [So now let us focus on separating the
chaff from the grain:
> Halifa
> > reported that "some
supporters of the APRC said that the
> opposition
> > parties
in the Gambia are not credible." This is factual. It
is
>
APRC
> > supporters like Waa Juwara as you conceded who are claiming
the
> above;
> > it is not Halifa as you wrongly asserted.
Halifa is merely a
> messenger
> > who conveyed the message.
What Halifa opined in response is
"They
> > should also add that
the ruling party is not credible. Their
> assessment
> > of
Gambian politics as it stands would then be correct and
>
balanced."]
> > Evian.
> >
> >
> >
Inutile.
> >
> > [I hope you would therefore accordingly
revise your
interpretation
> of
> > Halifa's statement to
reflect the reality of what he
expressed.]
> Evian.
> >
> > I was not interpreting anything. I was translating. And
there
is
> no
> > further revision necessary.
>
>
> > [You aso wrote:
> > "I would encourage you to read
Halifa's quotation again
because I
> think
> > you
misunderstood it. Not that it makes any significant
difference
>
> whether you understood it or not. It just throws your
analysis
of
> that
> > part off quilter a bit. That is the bit about
"Not excluding
> acceptance
> > of candidature". There Halifa
is speaking of himself and not
the
> > candidature of other.
Share with us your renewed
understanding."]
> Evian
> >
regurgitating what Haruna shared.
> >
> > [As you
encouraged, I referred again to the relevant
statement of
> >
Halifa as follows (emphasis mine):
> > "Even though I am not
excluding acceptance of candidature, I
have
> > already declared
that the best option is to select a neutral
> candidate
> > who
will be able to run a non partisan transitional cabinet
for a
> >
period of 2 to 5 years and then step aside after a genuine
>
multiparty
> > contest. It is left to Gambians to decide whether they
have a
> better
> > way forward."] Evian
repeating.
> >
> > [My understanding of the statement
remains the same even
though I
> admit
> > that Halifa did
not qualify whose candidature he meant.]
Evian.
> >
> > Halifa did not need to qualify whose candidature he
spoke of.
The
> > English is sound and very good. If it were you
or Mams I
would
> have
> > asked for further
clarification.
> >
> > [He did not indicated either
"my" or "any" to give us
precision of
> > reference to
candidature.] Evian.
> >
> > Bailo, the MY is
implicit. That happens all the time in
> conversations
> > in
English. Just for fun, let us replace MY with ANY just
before
> > candidature. That would not have been the best
sentence
structure
> but
> > it still tells you Halifa is
speaking of himself. This is
> because MY is
> > the
ownership litmus but ANY goes to the quality of the
>
candidature and
> > not domain. Hey Allah, I hope you understand me.
So let's
extend
> the
> > semantic game further; Let us say
Halifa meant Ousainou, OJ,
> Hamat, or
> > Waa's candidature,
and insert any of these names just before
> > candidature. Now you
will agree with me that Halifa does not
have
> the
> >
purview of accepting other's candidature. Do you agree? If
you
>
don't
> > just ask yourself where is the authority for Halifa to
ACCEPT
a
> > dog-catcher's candidature????? He can ascend to
their
candidatures
> when
> > they accept accept it
themselves and the way he does that is
by
> voting
> > his
desire or ascension. These are some of the games Shaky
Shaky
>
plays
> > with English in order to improve himself. Please let me
know
if
> you
> > need further ideas on these and
others.
> >
> > [In essence, he might have been
referring to his own
candidature
> or
> > someone else's.]
Evian.
> >
> > Unless he is retarded, he could not
have been referring to
any
> other's
> >
candidature.
> >
> > [It is for him to help clarify.]
Evian.
> >
> > I don't need Halifa to clarify and I
am certain most of our
> coleagues
> > don't need any further
clarification of the statement. Let us
save
> > Halifa the mental
gymnastics where he could try to manufacture
> > extraneous meaning.
That will be a bigger problem for the man.
> >
> >
[Whatever he meant, I know that either interpretations are
>
possible.]
> > Evian.
> >
> > You do the
tests and convince yourself either way. It is
easy. You
>
can
> > do it Bailo.
> >
> > [In conclusion, I
think you have mistakenly fallen for that
> proverbial
> >
saying of comparing apples and oranges in the following
statement
>
of
> > yours: "Halifa endorsing Ousainou's candidature will be equal
to
> you or
> > me endorsing Ousainou's candidature or
Halifa's candidature
at
> this
> > point in time. There is
not much basis for that."] Evian
repeating
> what
> >
Haruna shared.
> >
> > [In order words, you have over-rated
yourself and me at to be
at
> par
> > with Halifa;]
Evian.
> >
> > No. I am not at par with Halifa. Just
ask him. We are of
different
> > mettle and polarly opposite
ambition.
> >
> > [the latter is a political known
and both you and me are
virtual
> > political unknowns.]
Evian.
> >
> > Well. Do you want to be a political
known Bailo????? I can
make
> your
> > arse famous in a
jiffy. You might not like what you become
famous
> for
> >
though. Political known. I have not heard such cacamayme
since
>
Moussa
> > Camara shared Mbaranbirinbiring with me in 1982 in
Kuntaur.
> >
> > [Therein lies the difference between
us Halifa's endorsement
of
> any
> > candidature.]
Evian.
> >
> > I see.
> >
>
> [Cheers] Evian.
> >
> > Cheers to you too. And
don't try to be cute with your Grand
Pa
> again.
> > If you
know what is good for you, you'll turn in your PDOIS
> armband.
>
>
> > I still love you though.
> > Haruna.
>
>
> > --- On Thu, 4/2/10, Modou Nyang
<[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
> >
>
>
> > From: Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]>
>
> Subject: Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE APRC
TOUR
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Date:
Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 0:41
> >
> > Foroyaa News :
HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE APRC TOUR, NO
> CREDIBLE
> >
RULING PARTY NO CREDIBLE OPPOSITION A NEW WAY FORWARD NEEDED
>
>
> > After the completion of the APRC tour, Foroyaa approached
Halifa
> Sallah
> > for comments.This is what he
said:
> >
> > “Political leaders should tell their
supporters the truth. A
> political
> > vacuum exists in the
Gambia. Some supporters of the APRC said
that
> the
> >
opposition parties in the Gambia are not credible. They
should
>
also add
> > that the ruling party is not credible. Their assessment
of
Gambian
> > politics as it stands would then be correct and
balanced.
Some
> leaders
> > who do not want to be honest
to their supporters are trying
to
> give the
> > impression
that the statistics I have been putting out are
over
> >
statements. They are not telling their supporters the truth.
>
Political
> > leaders should tell the truth. For only the truth shall
set
us
> free. I
> > have relied on empirical evidence to
conclude that at this
very
> moment
> > we do not have a
credible ruling party or opposition party.
We
> have a
> >
duty to create both. Those who are offended by this statement
are
>
not
> > prepared to do what is necessary to save Gambian politics
from
> being an
> > exercise in mediocrity.
>
>
> > After the presidential elections in 2006, I wrote a pamphlet
in
> which I
> > quoted the statistics to confirm my
assertion. Gambians have
to be
> > reminded these statistics to
awaken each from our political
apathy.
> >
> > According
to the IEC, 670, 336 voters were registered prior
to the
>
2006
> > presidential elections. When the results were delivered the
IEC
> > indicated that the APRC candidate who was also supported
by
the
> NCP had
> > 264,404 votes. If this is subtracted
from the total number of
> > registered voters it would mean that
405,932 voters did not
vote
> for
> > the APRC candidate.
The UDP candidate who was also supported
by
> NRP and
> >
GPDP had 104,808 votes, while the NADD candidate had 23,473
votes.
>
The
> > total votes of the opposition amounted to 128,281 votes. If
this
> is
> > subtracted from the total number of
registered voters it
would be
> > apparent that 542,055 voters
did not vote for the opposition.
> Wherein
> > lies the
credibility of the ruling party and the opposition
party
>
if
> > politics is reduced to its lowest common denominator as
contest
> based
> > on the number of votes.
>
>
> > Interestingly enough, in 2001 the APRC candidate had 242,302
votes
> when
> > it forged no alliance with the NCP. At
that time there were
> 501,304
> > registered voters. Suffice
it to say, even though the number
of
> voters
> > increased
by 169032, by 2006 the votes of the APRC could only
> increase
>
> by 22,102 votes. The UDP candidate had 149,448 votes in 2001.
Even
> > though it developed alliance with NRP, which had 35,671
votes
in
> 2001,
> > its votes went down 104,808 votes in
the 2006 elections,
despite
> the
> > increase in the
number of registered voters by 169032 voters.
> >
> >
Foroyaa: What is your advise?
> >
> > It is therefore
necessary for political leaders to go back to
the
> > drawing
board and map out a new way forward. How is the
opposition
>
to
> > attract the 542,055 voters who did not vote for them is
the
> subject at
> > hand. This is what Agenda 2011 is all
about. Even though I am
not
> > excluding acceptance of
candidature, I have already declared
that
> the
> > best
option is to select a neutral candidate who will be able
to
> run
a
> > non partisan transitional cabinet for a period of 2 to 5
years and
> then
> > step aside after a genuine multiparty
contest. It is left to
> Gambians
> > to decide whether they
have a better way forward.
> >
> >
> >
> >
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