Hi Dad Modou,
 
 
[In a message dated 2/19/2010 12:54:11 P.M. Eastern Standard Time,  
[log in to unmask] writes:      
Suntou, I asked you a simple question and you have not provided me  with a 
simple answer and here you go again

into trivial issues as to who is or is not a hater. If you are not a  hater 
then focus on important issues and stop the
character assassinations. I asked you to get the UDP leader to tell  us 
whether the only alliance he will be a part of is
one which must endorse his candidature for the Presidential election  in 
2011 and you are still quiet on the matter. You
should continue to keep quiet until i give my reply on Sonny Daffeh's  
article in Freedom.] Modou.
 
I wanted to say no comment here but might I suggest Dad that you  cannot 
ask Suntou to do anything much less
to get a third party to do anything. Maybe you don't understand  that yet. 
I am just perplexed by you Dad. Surely
you must get that clue via Suntou's neglect of your  request. 

[I hope Uncle Haruna will stop helping you to get a  breathing space by 
accusing us of going in circles.] Modou.
 
Modou, it was Evian (Bailo) who suggested you guys were going in  endless 
circles. I merely agreed with that
sentiment of Bailo and I added that that was indeed a characteristic  of 
vortices. And I do not help or take away from
what SUntou says or does not say here. I am the boss of me. I am able  to 
speak my own mind when and where
I desire taking care not to unduly malign my fellow citizen. I  generally 
only respond to other here on this coalition
talk. Have you noticed?
 
[We are not going in circles.] Modou.
 
And like Evian, he trundles on in spectacular oblivion.
 
[He appears to have partitioned Gambia into political Chiefdoms and  is 
asking us to recognise and respect each
others territory and move on.] Modou.
 
You are mistaken Modou. You or I do not have any  territory beyond our 
personal properties. It will be presumptuous of us to  lay global claim to
communal property or property of  other.

[My understanding is that we are debating on what is  the best form of 
alliance to be able to remove Jammeh.] Modou.
 
NO. That is not what I am debating. If you must know, alliances  are not my 
purview. They are the purview of the partners
to such alliance. I think you are debating with yourself. But you do  not 
recognize that yet.
 
[If one does not think that any form of alliance is possible]  Modou.
 
Dad, I hate to break this to you again but I do not know what  alliance is 
or is not possible. Again, I do not concern myself
with the purview of others. I will be beside myself to decipher what  
alliance is possible when I am not party to any alliance.
 
[one should just say so and leave others to carry on their debate  without 
accusing them of going in circles.] Modou.
 
Again, I did not accuse you of going in circles.  Besides, if you are not 
going in circles, I think you ought to keep due  north on your compass.
By all means, feel free to carry on your debate. I am a  mere spectator, to 
come in and beg pardon for interrupting the  debate.

[Every one knows the source of the squabbles. Halifa Launched  Agenda 
2011and called for an Alliance whereby
all persons who are interested in becoming candidates for the  opposition 
would submit themselves to a non partisan
primary so that one candidate would appear to stand against Jammeh on  
behalf of the opposition.] Modou.
 
Is that right?
 
[UDP-UK claim that Halifa has said this to reject Darboe's   leadership 
even though a primary does not exclude any
one.] Modou.
 
I'll be darn.
 
[Instead of arguing why such a non partisan primary is unworkable  they are 
trying to justify why a UDP led alliance is the
only alliance acceptable to them even though such an alliance failed  to 
deliver in the 2006 elections.] Modou.
 
Dad, if you propose a certain roadmap to your fellow citizen and they  
reject it, why would you expect them to argue with
you about the specifics of that  
roadmap???????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
[They are ready to insult everyone who point out this fact and are  not 
ready to entertain anything else.] Modou.
 
I would say leave them in their peace and don't force them  to discuss the 
merits of your merchandise.
 
[Halifa said that left to him alone he would have even preferred a  neutral 
candidate to do the job yet
they still call him selfish.] Modou.
 
Dad, does it ever occur to you that simply because  Halifa said something 
does not make it true?????????????????????????????  Ever?????
 
[Uncle Haruna, we are not going in circles. Some people started by  
accusing Halifa of distorting facts only to be proven
to have made false allegations. Now they are trying to convince  people 
that the allegation that the UDP led alliance was
a total failure is done out of malice and contempt for the UDP  leadership 
and that they will not accept any other alliance
other than the same 2006 UDP led Alliance type.] Modou.
 
Dad, I don't know how many ways I can say this to you, but I am not  
interested in what you or Halifa has to say about
alliances that you are persuading others to form. Really.
 
[I promise Suntou that that i will prove to them that they are  preparing 
for failure.] Modou.
 
I appreciate your clairvoyance Dad. Really. To be able to discern  that 
others' demarche is preparation for failure.
I encourage PDOIS to canonize you therefor.
 
[Daffeh here i come.] Modou.
 
I'm scared now.
Haruna.

--- On Fri, 2/19/10, suntou touray  <[log in to unmask]> wrote:



From:  suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Re: Let us turn  a new page / Modou Nyang.
To: [log in to unmask]
Date:  Friday, February 19, 2010, 6:52 AM


"That is why you are focusing on hate messages against Halifa and  not 
showing why the agenda is unworkable. I am using my real name but  you people 
are hiding to a point of using the name Kumba Gaye to  attack  me for exposing 
the bankruptcy of your position."  Modou Nyang 
Modou, be serious for once. I have written about Halifa Sallah  since 2007. 
I have done so with my name. If you have a response  against the person you 
name above, you better do it. Why pander and make  such ridiculous 
statement uncle.  
 
"You have earned notoriety here for inventing things against  people. Now 
your new invention is Modou Nyang is not the one writing it  is Halifa. You 
think Halifa has time for your likes. I will inform you  today that you are 
one of the main reasons why i subscribed here in  order to challenge your 
views. I have been reading your comments for  some time but could not commend 
on them because i was not  subscribed." Modou Nyang
Well done for subscribing to challenge me. Thanks  Uncle Modou. As my 
extended uncle of the Nyang kunda denasty, i am  a little sad that, your emotion 
tend to hang on your sleeve. You  don't need to say those innermost 
emotional decisions. It makes you look  weak.
I thought you may have join the Gambia L to  read the poems of our great 
brother, the stories and satires around  here, the rebuttals of your gang 
members, the wise words from  your new son (Haruna) and the news stories from 
the  famous freedomnewspaper, gainako etc.
 
Halifa for your information is more aware of Suntou  than you can ever 
imagine. Ask Pa samba to forward to you an email  Halifa wrote for my attention 
back in 2007. You may not have graduated  from the Temple in Churchills Town 
then. However, i careless about  him paying any attention to what i say. i 
will continue to expose his  propagandas time permitting.
Another issue is that, there is no problem Halifa  passing you information 
to do his propaganda for him. In fact, this is  what Obama did, Bush, 
Mandela, Gandi, Blair, and all great  leaders.
You should have acknowledged Halifa in the response,  the case would be 
close.
Obama's speeches are written for him, that is why  it captivate the masses. 
People who specialised in flowery English and  can utilise the words into 
good effect assist in formulating his  messages. Bush was the same, Clinton 
the same, Mandela the same and so  on.
But when a would be leader feels that, he doesn't need  any other person's 
idea in a project for a whole nation,  then something serious is wrong with 
such a person.
If Sam Sarr, Sedia, Adama Bah have also added their  name on the Agenda, 
one can say, the material was thought  through in any way or form. But for one 
man to draft  undemocratic ideas and then instead of conferring with those 
who  he is to unite with, he went straight to the media: The Gambia  echo, 
Gainako, freedom, Maafanta and his personal diary  (Foroyaa).
Foroyaa publish anything emanating from Halifa  even if he cough, they will 
publish it.
Halifa bypassing all mediators (whom he describe  as youths), opposition 
parties, this means, he has made up his mind  to do whatever is that he aim to 
do alone. 
So let others talk and come together. Halifa's boys in  America know his 
real ambition, some are deeply sadden by his political  suicidal route, but 
publicly they have to stand by him. For us,  our doors are open. But ideas 
which have not been tested in  this world will not be gambled with.
Modou, your other baseless  small comments are not worth my time. Wasalam, 
happy  juma
Suntou 
     


On Tue, Feb 16, 2010 at 7:03 AM, Modou Nyang  <[log in to unmask] 
(mip:[log in to unmask]) >  wrote:

"It seems that you are now resorting back to  playing the sympathy card. We 
have been discussing politics  here, yet you are taking to accusing me of 
hate messages. My  God, this is serious business. I wonder whether your 
political  master forget to indoctrinated you enough on tolerance to  dessenting 
views."


Suntou, your above statement and  it's likes are what makes you a hater 
that in the Rush Limbaugh  category that you are parading as dissent. 

You have  earned notoriety here for inventing things against people. Now  
your new invention is Modou Nyang is not the one writing it is  Halifa. You 
think Halifa has time for your likes. I will inform  you today that you are 
one of the main reasons why i subscribed  here in order to challenge your 
views. I have been reading your  comments for some time but could not commend 
on them because i  was not subscribed. 

Also i have told you i am only a  high school graduate. I am also a trained 
writer and journalist.  So i will leave you to your inventions. If if it 
the source of  the statistics that you are wondering about well you should not 
 wander far because you already know i am from Foroyaa and we  have a well 
stocked library there. 

So cool down Malang  Suntou, (if you have a Nigerian friend you can ask 
what Malang  means in Hausa), i am with you as you said it politics. I am  more 
comfortable dealing with you than Uncle Haruna. You know  the man is so 
fluid with those bigs words that i need my  dictionary on my side to get along 
with him. As for you, i just  compose directly in my inbox and am scribbling 
this one after a  long days work. Am sleepy men. 

But wait a minute, i got  something for that Sonny guy. Is he an Ellener? 
No need,  after-all Suntou you can let him or is it she, know i will be  
coming his way. 

This is a special note for him. This  Sonny is more sensible than that 
Kumba Gaye that is why she did  not get my attention. 

Daffeh,
I just wish to   inform you that you are preparing for failure.  I will 
soon  post an article to freedom newspaper to expose that the UDP is  preparing 
for failure if the views of the leadership are the  same with you its 
sycophants in the UK. I am sure the UDP  leadership is more sensible than that.

Nothing is more  absurd than to give the impression that the UDP could win 
an  election without a new tactic and strategy being put in place.It  is 
clear that some of us in the Diaspora are comfortable in  staying here for a 
life time. Some do not care whether the UDP  wins or not. It is either UDP or 
nothing else.

Of course  the sensible Gambian people know better than to join people who  
are bent on committing political suicide.They will leave them to  go alone.

Nyang  



--- On Mon, 2/15/10, suntou  touray <[log in to unmask] 
(mip:[log in to unmask]) >  wrote:



From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask] 
(mip:[log in to unmask]) >

Subject:  Re: Let us turn a new page / Modou Nyang.  

To: [log in to unmask] 
(mip:[log in to unmask]) 

Date:  Monday, February 15, 2010, 8:15 PM  
 




Modou
It seems that you are now resorting back to  playing the sympathy card. We 
have been discussing  politics here, yet you are taking to accusing me of 
hate  messages. My God, this is serious business. I wonder whether  your 
political master forget to indoctrinated you enough  on tolerance to dessenting 
views.
As for coach, he is a grumpy middle age man, i expected  him to be in 
control at all times, but as it happens he  boggled under pressure. I am polite 
and shall not shout at  him.
It is easier to be rude though than to be in charge. It  was Pa Samba who 
came out playing the grand old Duke of Gambia  L few days ago, Telling us why 
we didn't respond to his friend  sooner. My question is, who the hell ask 
him for his opinion?  Was he nominated to be the nanny of Gambia L without 
our  consent?
I know many PDOIS members who would rather Halifa do the  right thing and 
stop seeking name uncanningly. The issue is,  many PDOIS members don't know 
the first thing about Sallah. He  is not what they think he is. The man 
listen to only  himself.
Suntou


On Sun, Feb 14, 2010 at 5:33 PM, Haruna  Darbo <[log in to unmask] 
(http:[log in to unmask]) > wrote:


You will be back for what Dad?
 
Coach was worried about potential aversion of Halifa  from my notes. I 
advised he read it again to see if he can  glean a better understanding of it. I 
am still waiting for  Coach in the event his second review of my notes 
afforded  him no more relief. If I don't hear from Coach by noon  Monday, Feb. 
15th., 2010, I will take it he has yielded  relief from further review. And I 
am only looking forward to  a conversation with Coach on the extant matter. 
Not you Dad.  I am a very busy man. If you have some angst about my notes,  
please let me know and where your angst is. I will endeavour  to assist 
further when time permits me. Meanwhile, our  association here presumes anyone 
of us can comment on  anything shared here when and if we desire.
 
I have become unduly busy since friday and I plead with  you to have some 
regard for my limited time. I will not be  engaged in debates and or chatter 
here unless where I see  value in such.
 
Thank you and I hope you will understand.
 
Your Uncle Haruna.
 
 
In a message dated 2/14/2010 4:10:04 A.M. Eastern  Standard Time, 
[log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask])   writes:

"...The issue is in fact not so much about  the figures but the ludicrous 
claim that they  somehow indicates a manifestation of electoral shun  on the 
nature of alliances adopted by both NADD and  UDP led alliance prior to the 
2006 presidential  election i.e. party led alliance and the so-called  
umbrella party. That is absolute nonsense. Although  there may have been a degree 
of voter discontent  over opposition disunity or the incumbent’s employed  
harassment and intimidation tactics,-depending on  which side of the story 
you want to believe- there  is absolutely no evidence that the low 
voter-turnout  seen in 2006 was as a result of the types of  alliance adopted by 
either NADD or the UDP. This  defeats the whole essence of Halifa’s agenda 2011  
and that is exactly what UDP-UK rejoinder was all  about..."
 
Suntou, with your above statement I am done  with you and your other two 
guys. I will focus on  Uncle Haruna. And when I return you and your friends  
might have solved their invented puzzle of who is  chatting with them. 
 
Uncle Haruna, do not worry much  about Coach understanding your posting. I 
am with  you all the way. Just bear with me a little I will  be back.
 
 


---  On Sat, 2/13/10, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask] 
(http:[log in to unmask]) >  wrote:


From:  Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask] 
(http:[log in to unmask]) >
Subject:  Re: Let us turn a new page
To: [log in to unmask] 
(http:[log in to unmask]) 
Date:  Saturday, February 13, 2010, 5:49 PM


Suntou,
 
I take your counsel into advisement. Pa Samba is a  dear friend. He and I 
will come to understandings. It  takes a little nudging and explanation for 
him but it  shall come to pass. I am not a novice at conflict  resolution.
 
Here is what I advise of you though.
 
Today, today. If Halifa for some reason went into a  trans and declared - 
Let us have a total opposition  union and let UDP/NRP lead it, wIll you and 
UDP/NRP  waste your times to join  
PDOIS??????????????????????????????????????????????????????
 
This is the question I want you and UDP/NRP and  even GMC to ponder. After 
you do, you will throw away  Agenda-2011 and focus on building your parties 
and  alliances. As I can see, both UDP/NRP and GMC have  shortcomings in 
party administration that leave a lot to  be desired. Simple tasks take days or 
months to complete  if at all. When your leader is busy defending Femi  
Peters, the party's entire activities stop. WHY???? If  Ousainou is not free, 
the party's executive committee  need to ensure the continued functioning of 
the party.  WHY is that? Some due-diligence does not require money.  
Organising and visiting with your supporters regularly  as far away as Koina and 
Jimara and cultivating new  supporters should be done all the time, Ousainou 
or no  Ousainou. NADD/PDOIS has the same problem or worse. But  the time you 
partisans spend on chatter could be better  used developing your parties. 
The way I see it, none of  the parties is capable of governing Gambia in this  
state. And if you should dream about forming a singular  union, you will 
have multiplied the inefficiencies  ten-fold.
 
So focus your time and energies on value - building  and strangthening your 
parties. We are not interested in  a United Opposition any more. At least 
we will not  depend on that idea as the means to remove Yahya. So  don't feel 
burdened to form a united opposition on  account of the people.
 
Thank you and may DaarManso continue to bless all  of you in your 
self-interests.
 
Haruna.

-----Original  Message-----
From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask] 
(http:[log in to unmask]) >
To: [log in to unmask] 
(http:[log in to unmask]) 
Sent:  Sat, Feb 13, 2010 5:05 pm
Subject: Re: Let us turn a  new page


Haruna, your comments are simple, logical and  straight forward. But the 
sad facts is that, some people  cannot even think for themselves without 
Sallah telling  them how. Halifa's attempt to be Jack of all trade meant  that, 
he did injustice to himself and UDP/NRP analysing  absent voters and the 
synergy effect with him being a  mortal man could'nt quantify.
Halifa should display his formula of his  cirtic of the UDP/NRP not adding 
the absent voters to  the pool. Absent voters affected all the parties,  
including PDOIS and NDam.
Haruna, your efforts are honourable and honest.  Where you criticise me and 
my attempts, i recognise the  reasoning in them. When we send our 
rejoinder, Halifa's  few fans in American made all sorts of noise, some  saying:
Halifa is under attack,  we should stop all talks
Now who did we responded to? The wind or Halifa?  Did this people actually 
read anything Halifa  wrote?
My hunch is they don't. But when Mr Grey-Johnson  again repeated Halifa 
mistakes, i didn't hear this  people who nearly went into coma  when we their  
patron, when Darboe was branded power hungry etc by  a misguided bigoted 
partisan.
The two face mentality is the real reason Halifa is  continuing what he 
doing. Behind his back his own guys  are dissolution with him, among people, 
they defend his  ideas even after knowing they don't make sense. And as  for 
Pasamba, true peace will come to pass when you are  bold enough to confront 
Halifa. But for now, it will be  a dream.
Haruna, keep writing. 
Suntou


On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 1:55 PM,  Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask] 
(http:[log in to unmask]) >  wrote:

Olfactor you can't help but take a swipe at yours  truly. What is wrong 
with you men? I'll have you know  you can't have a better friend than Haruna. I 
just got  off the phone with a friend. He tells me president  Clinton is 
doing marvelously and with our continued  prayers, he should be back up, 
straight up, to  continue to assist in Haiti and Northern Ireland. I  told him I 
have a friend in Dublin who could hold the  torch for Ireland as the 
president recovers. So I  messed up your hibernation long before you perceived  it. 
SOmeone will be looking for you over there to lend  all Ireland a hand as 
she works through devolution.  Won't you do Ireland a good turn? Migrant 
worker or  not, you still live in Ireland. So why go into  hibernation on 
account of your friend Haruna when  you could be working for Northern Ireland???? 
Learn to  not take, take, take. Learn to give, give, give.  Besides I did 
not hear where you tried to get our  mutual friend Demba out of box. I know 
your life has  some value. I just gotta figure it out for you. I  still love 
you.
 
Now then Dad, you did a marvelous job in amicus  of Halifa's electoral 
arithemetic which you inform us  was the basis for Agenda 2011. You must be 
commended  for this. It is what mortal man can expect of a  partisan. I totally 
admire your zeal and sport. I  guess it is not necessary therefore for me to 
read  Agenda 2011 afterall. I will share some notes with you  and they will 
be brief.
 
In my view, Halifa's un-intended dishonesty does  not lie in the 
arithemetic adduand. As a  philosopher and sociologist par excellence, Halifa  must 
have been taught that linear arithemetic is not  terribly valuable for 
philosophers and sociologists.  That is why linear algebra and additional math were 
 introduced in those years where sociologists and  philosophers shared 
their agonies in explaining human  conditions and considerations. Throw in the  
philosopher and sociologist who wishes to use politics  to solve the 
landmark equations of social engineering.  Why do people vote? Why do they vote the 
way they  do?
 
Let me be the first to share with you that  the adduand exclusively should 
not be considered  in electoral arithemetic. You cannot explain the  
distributive and associative properties only by using  addition alone, addition and 
subtraction alone, Or  addition, subtraction, and multiplication alone.  
Electoral arithemetic must include the use of  addition, subtraction, 
multiplication, division, the  operations of integral and derivative science are a  
complex use of these four, and they cannot even begin  to tackle electoral 
mathematics. Secondly, you must  endeavour to include the time value of 
elections and  votes and the time value of human considerations. That  is where 
the accountant comes to the aid of the  philosopher/sociologist/politician. 
Even further,  electoral calculus contains some intractable variables  such 
as personal considerations of the voter that are  a function of his/her state 
of mind at the time of  voting. What you must not do under any 
circumstance,  is to extrapolate or compare votes of different  periods or periodic 
elections. Your quandry is not  complete even after you satisfy the foregoing. 
There  comes the matter of vote-buying, vote-selling which  Halifa himself 
was at pains to convince us happens  during the elections in Gambia. Well 
throw in the mix  of the Gambian voter's problems of Yahya's  intimidations, 
electoral riggings, and ballot  stuffings, why you have just thoroughly  
discombabulated yourself.
 
In essence, the dishonesty displayed by Halifa,  though unintended, is a 
result of using a dishonest  formula. Now when you skew that formula to 
portray  another opposition party as incapable to win future  elections, you 
burden straightforward dishonest  calculus with odious bias. If the premise 
therefore of  AGENDA 2011 is the result of such arithemetic, well  you know the 
rest of the story.
 
Therefore, I urge Halifa to apologise to the  readers of Agenda 2011 and 
all other opposition  parties, and when we work on a roadmap, to cease  
redefining past elections in Gambia. Past election  results in Gambia will not 
afford any valuable or  meaningful discernment for any opposition party. And  
Foroyaa, based on such arithemetic wishes opposition  parties to go back to 
the drawing board. For  what????????? We are all unduly mesmerized by the  
sanctity of a total opposition union. I advise  sobriety and caution against 
disingenuity and  pretense.
 
I commend you nonetheless for efforting amicus of  Agenda 2011 and Halifa.
 
Olfactor, any minute now you'll hear a knock on  your door. Nobody 
hibernates in Ireland anymore. She  invests enormous amounts to market herself as a 
lively  tourist destination. You should help her in that  regard. I love you 
all.
 
Haruna.




-----Original Message-----
From: Modou Mboge  <[log in to unmask] 
(http:[log in to unmask]) >
To: [log in to unmask] 
(http:[log in to unmask]) 



Sent: Sat, Feb 13, 2010 4:54 am
Subject: Re:  Let us turn a new page


Nyang,
 
Keep up the good work, however dealing  with grouchy characters is 
difficult,  for reason and reality is not their forte. Let me  go back to my 
hibernation as our grouch  par excellence here has  snorted at people who have 
decided to ignore his  incessant and vapid rambling. I do not want to be  
splattered by his grotty stuff, so hibernation  here we come.  
 
Nyang once again keep the fire burning and keep  helping me out of my 
hibernation with your good  work.  Thanks for a very well written  piece.  
 
Best,
 
Mboge


On Sat, Feb 13, 2010 at 9:42  AM, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask] 
(http:[log in to unmask]) >  
wrote:

Suntu, 
 

How Many times am I to prove that you do  not do your homework well? I can 
see that you  are trying to get allies from all those People  with hate 
messages. This is weakening your  course. Such hate messages cannot isolate any  
one.. We have seen those types of people here in  the US during Obama’s 
campaign. They cannot  explain why they hate him. 
 
Consequently their hate messages worked out  very well for Obama. Here too 
you are giving  Halifa more publicity than he has asked for. The  worse 
thing that you did to your self is to  raise issues which led to the challenge 
for  Halifa to explain the role he played in NADD. I  am still waiting to 
read part 3 so that things  will be clearer since your camp is still trying  to 
distort the truth even though no NADD leader  had come out in public to do 
so.
 
Your last hope to discredit Halifa is your  claim that he distorted the 
result of the 2001  Presidential elections just to prove that the  UDP lost 
more votes than it really did, when  compared to 2006 so that its leadership 
would be  discredited. In my reaction to your rejoinder I  decided to skip the 
issue of the exact number of  votes your party the UDP had in the 2001  
election in order to do a proper research on it.  I have now scanned the 
results of the 2001  Presidential elections with the signature of the  then 
Chairman of the Independent Electoral  Commission Gabriel Roberts.
 
However, before going into your distortion  of the results I would want to 
help one of your  friends to understand what I meant when I said  Darboe was 
not brave enough to tell his  colleagues what he wanted and stuck by it 
before  they ventured to form NADD. He misunderstood me  completely and strayed 
into accusing Halifa of  promoting that a brave person should be selected  
to lead an opposition alliance. My position is  that if Darboe is strongly 
convinced that he  should lead and others should follow. He should  simply 
declare that for all to understand and  then proceed to sell his agenda to the 
people.  Whoever wants to join him would do so and those  who would not 
want to join him would go on with  their own programmes. Since UDP is not ready 
to  compromise on leadership it should make that  clear and stand by that 
decision and should not  join any arrangement where leadership would have  to 
be negotiated with other stakeholders. 
 
let me now deal with the results of the  2001 Presidential elections. 
Halifa made it  clear in his Agenda 2011 that UDP had 149448  votes in 2001 while 
NRP had 35,671 votes. Please  read the Agenda again. You will get the real  
figures rather than approximations. If you want  a copy of the Agenda i 
will mail it to you  electronically. 
 
Halifa indicated that the two parties  formed an alliance in 2006 along 
with GPDP and  had votes numbering 104,808 votes..Halifa  concluded that 
compared to the 2001 figures the  two parties lost 80,301 votes. Where then has  
Halifa gone wrong?
 
Could you not do simple addition and  subtraction? Add 149,448 votes to 
35,67. You  should get 185,119 votes. Subtract 104,808 from  185,119. What is 
your answer? Is it not 80,301  votes. Halifa is dead correct and you the  
members of the UDP camp in the UK are dead  wrong.
 
I have investigated and got the results a  long time ago. I wanted to check 
whether you  have leaders who would guide you to know the  truth. The fact 
that you are still persisting in  claiming that Halifa’s figures are wrong 
has  forced me to request for a scanned declaration  of results signed by The 
Chairman of the IEC and  I hope you will now apologise to Halifa for your  
misleading statements. I am surprised by the  fact that you are still 
clinging to the view  that Halifa quoted wrong figures even though  your leaders 
in Banjul should be able to tell  you the truth instead of leaving you to  
humiliate yourselves before world public  opinion. I have decided to share the 
copy of the  declarations of the 2001 election results with  the online 
media for all to see for them selves  since I cannot directly place it here 
unless as  an attachment. 
 
Furthermore Suntou, you claim that it is  the UDP who enabled Halifa to win 
his Serrekunda  Central Seat. Let us look at the results of the  elections 
in Serrekunda since the UDP was put up  by the three major parties of the 
first  Republic, that is, the PPP, the NCP and the  GPP.
 
In 1997, the UDP campaigned against Halifa  Sallah in Serrekunda East and 
put up a major PPP  supporter, Bakary Manneh, as their candidate in  order to 
exploit OJ’s popularity as the MP at  the time of the coup. The results 
were as  follows Halifa had 8, 529 votes, The UDP had 8,  067votes and the APRC 
had 9, 575votes. Contrary  to your position that the UDP put up a candidate 
 against Halifa in the 2007 National Assembly  elections to humble him 
while it left Sidia  Jatta’s seat uncontested since he was a humble  PDOIS 
leader, Halifa did not stand as a  Presidential Candidate in 1996. It is Sidia  
Jatta who stood as a candidate against the UDP.  And in the 1997 National 
Assembly elections, the  UDP also put up a prominent NCP supporter in  Wuli 
against Sidia Jatta. Alhamdu Conteh who  stood as The UDP candidate had 1,098, 
Mamadi  Karlo Jabai of the APRC had 4, 641 and Sidia  Jatta of PDOIS had 5, 
499. Sidia won despite  UDP"s attempt to contest the seat.
 
In the 2002 National Assembly elections,  the UDP boycotted the elections 
and called on  all its members to stay away from the polls. In  Serre Kunda 
Central, Halifa had 5, 563 votes as  a PDOIS Candidate while the APRC 
candidate had  5, 143 votes. Halifa won.
 
In the 2005 by election in Serre Kunda  Central, Halifa had 5, 911 votes as 
a candidate  of the alliance while the APRC had 3, 984 votes.  Ther 
alliance added only 348 votes to the 2002  votes Halifa had as a PDOIS candidate. 
As a NADD  candidate Halifa had 4, 302 in the 2007 National  Assembly 
elections, UDP had 1, 548. and the APRC  had 6, 386.
 
It should be clear that Sidia and Halifa  both won their seats as PDOIS 
candidates  irrespective of the UDP. UDP made a big mistake  in contesting the 
Serrekunda central seat. It  did not spoil anything for Halifa. It spoilt 
its  own name. Many young people started to describe  it as a party that pours 
the sand in the  porridge if it is not invited to share in the  eating. UDP 
UK is also doing more harm to the  UDP. I will take up this issue later.
 
Suntu you concluded that: "The UDP U.K  knows very well, Halifa's students 
will come  trying to defend the indefensible. They will  again continue to 
twist the facts and try to  blame others for Halifa's inability to convince  
Gambian voters. What the UDP propose which is  respectfully talked by 
sincere Gambians, Halifa  don't want to pay attention to that. What he  want is to 
talk directly to Gambians, the civil  society, the NGO's etc and then 
create a cadre  of people who will later chose him as their  saviour."
 
This is your allegation. This is your fear.  You do fear that Halifa could 
convince the  Gambian voters. Your objective therefore is to  prevent this 
through premeditated character  assassination. You claim that I am trying to  
distort facts. What facts are we trying to  distort? If Halifa cannot 
convince the Gambian  people then why is he your headache. Halifa is  not Darboes 
problem and Darboe is not Halifa’s  problem. The problem of the Gambian 
people  should be our problem .Allow me to quote what  Halifa said recently.  
 
"Interestingly enough, in 2001 the APRC  candidate had 242, 302 votes when 
it forged no  alliance with the NCP. At that time there were  501, 304 
registered voters. Suffice it to say,  even though the number of voters increased 
by  169, 032, by 2006 the votes of the APRC could  only increase by 22,102 
votes. The UDP candidate  had 149,448 votes in 2001. Even though it  
developed alliance with NRP, which had 35,671  votes in 2001, its votes went down 
104,808 votes  in the 2006 elections, despite the increase in  the number of 
registered voters by 169, 032  voters."
 

"Foroyaa: What is your advise?"

"It is therefore necessary for political  leaders to go back to the drawing 
board and map  out a new way forward. How is the opposition to  attract the 
542,055 voters who did not vote for  them is the subject at hand. This is 
what Agenda  2011 is all about. Even though I am not  excluding acceptance of 
candidature, I have  already declared that the best option is to  select a 
neutral candidate who will be able to  run a non partisan transitional 
cabinet for a  period of 2 to 5 years and then step aside after  a genuine multi 
party contest. It is left to  Gambians to decide whether they have a better  
way forward."
 
Please ask Darboe to state his proposal for  a way forward so that we know 
what the UDP want  for the Nation. That is better than endless  bickering by 
the spokesperson of the party in  the UK .
 




--- On Wed, 2/10/10,  suntou touray <[log in to unmask] 
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From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask] 
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Subject:  Re: Let us turn a new page
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Date:  Wednesday, February 10, 2010, 4:12 PM  
 




Bailo, good to know your ears are wide  open. I thought you understood the 
famous  English saying "one man's meat is another man's  poison". What you 
believe to be crap from Suntou  is a gem to some and vice verse.
I have always been a fan of  politics Bailo, however it  doesn't dominate 
my life. I reveal here  last year that, i was reading and consulting  with 
some Gambian opposition parties. trying to  know certain aspects of their 
politics and also  to maintain how i can relate to them. 
It was after this period, i decided the  best option out there is the 
United Democratic  Party. Hence my joining their ranks.
I appreciate your boldness in stating on  several occasion that a party led 
coalition is  the solution. Not every PDOIS member wish to  accept this 
fact, but in life we have to accept  and politely disagree.
The situation for us all are very similar.  Our central concern is to see 
that a  government comes to power that will respect the  rule of law and 
adheres to good governance. And  also a government that will abide by term 
limits  and allow for diaspora Gambians to come home  anytime and stand for 
election without any  restriction like it it is now.
UDP/NRP all agrees with this principles and  also PDOIS. Therefore the 
deliberate error some  people are throwing about saying that, Ousainou  will not 
abide by term limits is the biggest  nonsense.
Ousainou is selected by the UDP  at there annual party congress to lead the 
 party, yet Jeggan is complaining that Ousainou  didn't hand over to 
someone. Who is the new  expert to lecture the UDP on how to select a  party 
leader?
Let Halifa hand over the leadership of  PDOIS to Sam Sarr before he too 
passes the  required age. After all, the American system  seems to be if you 
cannot get the presidency,  you pass it on. Let Sam step up. Jeggan can  
lecture his PDOIS members but not us.
The annoying thing in all this exchanges is  that, those who cry baby when 
we reacted  are all in hibernation, this world.
No wonder truth is relative. Bee kaa foo  ila bori leya, tiw tiw ( each 
person  shout for your runner). Things are moving,  albeit slowly. But progress 
is been made.  Ajarama, and Ibalen jam. Ya Allah dandu meen  foof kata e 
katato. Ameen.
Suntou


On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at  10:56 PM, bailo jallow <[log in to unmask] 
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wrote:

Suntou,

I heard you loud  and clear. But we gotta move on and not get  stuck to the 
past.

As for the NIA, they  are everywhere in the Gambia. Recently a young  man 
was pulled out of a public bus at Denton  bridge and merciless beaten to a 
vegetative  state by our so-called security forces. His  crime? The bus in 
which he was travelling was  like all vehicles on the road at the time  ordered 
off the road because the Presidential  motorcade was expected along it. The 
wait was  apparently long and this young man made the  mistake of telling 
someone he was was speaking  with on his mobile that they were waiting for  
the for the convoy of our stupid president  to pass. An NIA informant 
overheard his  indiscretion and decided to teach him a lesson.  When the bus 
reached Denton Bridge; the  informant ordered the driver of the bus to halt  the 
bus, the young chap was pulled out and his  alleged  crime reported to the 
security forces.  Their immediate reaction was to beat him to a  vegetative 
state for his indiscretionary words  against the President. 

It is therefore  ordinary private citizens who are paying a  higher price 
under the status quo than public  personalities like Ousainou, Halifa, OJ, 
Seedia  and the rest, the immense sacrifice of the  latter category  
nothwithstanding.

Honestly, I am not a  strong moslem as you. Evidence suggests that are  not 
a taleban otherwise the only technology you  would approved of is the 
killing machines. I  guess you own a tv and even a computer. As such  If you were 
a taleban, your fellow talebans  would have been seeking to publicly flog 
for  your deviation. So you cannot be a taleban!  Though I must confess that 
sometimes I tend to  mis-consider you as one very angry ayatollah who  
considers so-called PDOIS fanatics like myself  as supporters of the great Satan. 
I sincerely  hope that is not so. Remember, you cautioned us  sometimes ago 
that politicians are not to be  trusted. Your transformation into one 
within  this short space of time is amazing. Who and  what is primary motivation? 
I suppose Halifa is  not the one. 

Anyway, keep up the good  work for your party and the Gambia in general  
and please leave the crap out. I concur that you  reserve the right  
to.........................


Best  wishes

Bailo



--- On  Sun, 7/2/10, suntou touray <[log in to unmask] 
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From:  suntou touray <[log in to unmask] 
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Subject:  Re: Let us turn a new page  

To: [log in to unmask] 
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Date:  Sunday, 7 February, 2010, 12:10  
 




Bailo, your spin was well intention albeit  your inability to accept the 
facts of your  Messiah's calamity. He cannot hide neither  run  away from his 
mistakes. We are all  willing to move on and try to talk as brothers.  But 
what we cannot leave alone the continuous  blame game Halifa attributed to 
others leaving  his own saintly person out.
Politics is not a career for saints  Bailo, the sooner Halifa recognises 
that the  better. And the gang mentality his supporters  manifest is a turn of 
for even his supporters,  ganging up against those who speak about his  
politics will only cause Halifa less  cloud.
I also notice that, some of his guys start  calling me Taliban, extremist 
and what have you.  If they are willing to stoop so low in  their 
misunderstanding of politics, my body  feel for them. 
Bailo, you are strong a muslims  brother who actively partake in islamic 
actvist,  those that make you a Taliban? I know some of  your Islamic 
commitments, but I also accept  that, as Muslims, we should be interested in  
politics, science, literature, acceptable art,  philosophy, just anything we can 
enhance our  minds with.
But alas, the gossip that Suntou is  intolerant pumped up by the PDOIS boys 
has  reached me a long time. Some of this liers are  even in cahoot with 
the Foroyaa establishment  providing them with equipment and the  like.
My Islam allows me the privilege to be an  enterprising citizen wherever I 
live. I am a  Muslim by choice and will practise Islam to the  best of my 
ability and will put across the  little I know God-Willing. I respect the  
laws of the land i reside in. But If my  comments on Halifa incense some to the 
extent  that, they are willing to vilify and attribute  nonsensical tags to 
me, then I am  vindicated.
 
Let us see how things pan out, we standby  our findings and whenever it 
becomes necessary,  we shall respond to all false analogies on UDP.  For those 
who wish to be taken seriously  including you Bailo, distant yourself from  
errors, no matter who commits them, only then  people will accept your 
subsequent cries.
 Modou's abysmal response require no  countering from us. he place Halifa 
in even more  serious doubts hence putting across Halifa's  line. He is the 
brave soldier and others not.  The facts speaks different. Ousainou's office 
is  man regularly by NIA agents, doing all they can  to deter him from 
actively politics. His clients  harassed, his associated harassed, yet the  
foroyaa guys go about their business selling  papers and earning yet claiming to 
be  sacrificing more than others. It make me laugh  mate.
Suntou


On Sat, Feb 6, 2010 at  2:01 PM, bailo jallow <[log in to unmask] 
(http:[log in to unmask]) >  wrote:

Comrade Modou,

Your  clarification efforts are highly appreciated.  Let us now move on and 
chart a new course  towards helping bring about unity within the  
opposition movement. In our unity is our  strength. However, I strongly believe that 
the  general opposition movement would again fail to  realise our common 
goal of achieving a new  Gambia for all if we continue to rely on already  
tried and tested counterproductive strategies of  destructive criticism aimed at 
promoting one's  candidate while vigorously attempting to tarnish  that of 
another's. Some may argue that come on,  this is merely politics at play. I 
personally  consider such tactics as a smear campaign.  Anyone on the 
frontline of our national politics  conscientiously opposing the retrogessive  
policies and actions of the unjust APRC regime  deserve nothing but support and 
encouragement  from everyone craving and campaigning for  positive changes 
in the Gambia. Ousainou Darboe,  Halifa Sallah, Femi Peters, Seedia Jatta, 
Mai  Fatty and many others like them therefore only  deserve our genuine 
respect and good advice. I  had concluded long time ago that under the  current 
poliitcal dispensation in in our beloved  country the easiest and most 
convenient resort  for any person seeking only their own personal  interest would 
be to join the APRC Party.  

Our primary objective should be towards  ensuring that the leaderships of 
the UDP-led  Alliance and the remnants of NADD coalition  would both sooner 
rather later pursue a strategy  of meaningful co-operation with one another  
towards achieving an over-due united front  against the incompetent and 
callous APRC regime.  That way, the doubters would have been  confounded and 
hope lost by the silent majority  of Gambians would be restored.

Let  confidence building measures between all sides  of the opposition be 
pursued in earnest from now  on as time is precious sliding away.  

Please try to help get your dear uncle  bailed out after being found guilty 
and  sentenced yesterday for making a wrongful  attribution to our dear 
colleague, Halifa.  Coincidentally, the amount payable which is any,  should be 
envoyed to him in jail for the benefit  of good Gambian causes he has been 
diligently  campaigning for.

Finally I wish to  commend organisations such as the STGDP and GDP  who 
have been focussing on just that. Let us not  be daunted nor depair; ultimate 
victory is  assured for the cause of any struggle for  justice, freedom and 
respect for human  dignity.

Let us turn a new constructive  page. Let all good works go on.  Amen!

Bailo



--- On Sat,  6/2/10, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask] 
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From:  Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask] 
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Subject:  Re: Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER  THE APRC TOUR
To: [log in to unmask] 
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Date:  Saturday, 6 February, 2010, 3:50

    
Bailo,
 
Uncle Haruna understands Halifa very well.  This is why he prefers to rely 
on the issue of  credibility and not the election statistics  which Halifa 
relied on to draw his conclusion.  My uncle is among those who say that 
politics is  about numbers. In fact the other camp rely on  this so much that 
they refer to some parties as  fringe parties. They know what Halifa is talking 
 about but like the proverbial ostrich they  prefer to bury their head in 
the sand. 
 
You see, some of these people do not care  whether there is change or not. 
What they are  interested in is the change they want. If they  cannot get it 
they prefer to join Jammeh. They  should not fool the rest of us. Where is 
Waa who  used to criticize Halifa. He accepted the post  of a governor while 
Halifa rejected the post of  a Minister. This is the difference between him 
 and his critics. He wants genuine change for the  long suffering Gambian 
people. 
 
Halifa has made it quite clear that the  lowest common multiple in politics 
is numbers  and concluded that the numbers which rejected  both opposition 
and ruling party are so  overwhelming that none could be considered  
credible if that is the yardstick of measuring  credibility. He therefore concluded 
that those  who want change should go back to the drawing  board. He 
offered a proposal and called on  others with better proposals to offer their own. 
 Where is the bickering? All honest Gambians have  seen the light and 
cannot be deceived any more.  They know who is power hungry and those who want  
to empower the people.
 
Nyang
 


--- On Fri, 2/5/10,  bailo jallow <[log in to unmask] 
(http:[log in to unmask]) >  wrote:


From:  bailo jallow <[log in to unmask] 
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Subject:  Re: Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER  THE APRC TOUR
To: [log in to unmask] 
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Date:  Friday, February 5, 2010, 6:41 AM

   Please note that  perspective does not  always represent reality is what 
I  intended to express in  my previous  contribution.

Bailo


--- On  Fri, 5/2/10, bailo jallow <[log in to unmask] 
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From:  bailo jallow <[log in to unmask] 
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Subject:  Re: Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER  THE APRC TOUR
To: [log in to unmask] 
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Date:  Friday, 5 February, 2010, 11:22

   Please note that  perspective does not  always represent reality is I  
intended to express in  my previous  contribution.

Bailo

--- On Fri,  5/2/10, bailo jallow <[log in to unmask] 
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From:  bailo jallow <[log in to unmask] 
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Subject:  Re: Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER  THE APRC TOUR
To: [log in to unmask] 
(http:[log in to unmask]) 
Date:  Friday, 5 February, 2010, 11:12

    
Haruna tendered "So here Evian you will  notice that my notes were in 
response to your  notes and I encourage you to read your notes  where you 
re-presented what Halifa said."  

This is how I represented  Halifa's statement: "You seem to be in denial  
but that is sadly the truth. The APRC is far  from credible and from the 
perspective of the  potential electorate, neither exists a more  credible 
alternative. Otherwise, the opposition  would have won last time."

Please note  that perspective does always represent  reality.

The truth isI did not   misrepresent Halifa; you did. Instead of  
acknowledging your error, you are trying  to shift it elsewhere. That's absolute  
dishonesty!

Bailo

--- On Fri,  5/2/10, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask] 
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From:  Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask] 
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Subject:  Re: Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER  THE APRC TOUR
To: [log in to unmask] 
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Date:  Friday, 5 February, 2010, 0:55

What  i will do Evian is to leave my comments close to  yours and Halifa's 
in order that the proximity  may yield further comprehension where cacophany 
 meddles.


[-----Original  Message-----  From: bailo jallow [log in to unmask]   
To: [log in to unmask] 
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Sent:  Thu, Feb 4, 2010 12:20 pm Subject: Re: Foroyaa  News : HALIFA SALLAH 
COMMENTS AFTER THE APRC  TOUR
    
 
 
Sheikh Haruna, The following is exactly  what Comrade Halifa was reported 
to have stated  (emphasis mine):

“Some  supporters of the APRC said that the opposition  parties in the 
Gambia are not credible. They  should also add that the ruling party is not  
credible. Their assessment of Gambian politics  as it stands would then be 
correct and  balanced."

And this  is how you interpreted it:

"As to which party  official speaks for the other parties, Halifa  shared 
with us that there is no credible  opposition or ruling party. What he should 
have  said was that his party PDOIS was not credible.  Then he would have 
been speaking for himself  because he is more intimately aware of PDOIS'  
credibility. i think he was echoing  Waa's assertions that there is no credible 
 opposition. The problem is instead of focusing  on his party's 
credibility, he attempted to  match Waa's cluelessness. In so doing he  admitted Waa 
may be  right."


 

So here Evian you will notice that my  notes were in response to your notes 
and I  encourage you to read your notes where you  re-presented what Halifa 
said. Then come back  here and read the entire quote as it appeared in  the 
Foroyaa note, undoctored by you. What you  will conclude is that even given 
your sophomoric  representation, my comment (Not interpretation)  here does 
capture the cluelessness of PDOISards  fantastically. You see the APRC sup
porters are  smart people compared to Halifa. They are not  interested in 
selling the demerits of the ruling  party because that is who they support. Now 
 Halifa advising them to ALSO say that there is  no CREDIBLE RULING PARTY, 
in addition to There  is no CREDIBLE OPPOSITION PARTY, and that they  will 
have been both CORRECT and BALANCED is  where he put his foot in his mouth. 
Implicitly,  Halifa agrees with their supposition that there  is no CREDIBLE 
opposition party as CORRECT.  Because there is more than PDOIS in the  
opposition parties, Halifa is thereby speaking  for other parties. That is the 
reason I shared  the advice about when in court and accused of  theft, your 
defense ought not be that not only  are you a thief in agreement with your 
accuser,  your accuser is also a thief. The grander  picture Bailo is when you 
consider you are an  independent voter. And you hear Halifa utter  such. How 
does it make you feel about him and  his incredulous party PDOIS. Forget 
NADD at this  time for there is really nothing in NADD besides  PDOIS. Please 
let me know if this is still not  clear to you.
 
[So now let us focus on separating the  chaff from the grain: Halifa 
reported that "some  supporters of the APRC said that the opposition  parties in 
the Gambia are not credible."  This is factual. It is APRC supporters  like 
Waa Juwara as you conceded who are claiming  the above; it is not Halifa as 
you wrongly  asserted. Halifa is merely a messenger who  conveyed the 
message. What Halifa opined in  response is "They  should also add that the ruling 
party is not  credible. Their assessment of Gambian politics  as it stands 
would then be correct and  balanced."] Evian.

 

Inutile.

[I hope you would therefore accordingly  revise your interpretation of 
Halifa's statement  to reflect the reality of what he expressed.]  Evian.
 
I was not interpreting anything. I was  translating. And there is no 
further revision  necessary.

[You aso wrote: 
"I  would encourage you to read Halifa's quotation  again because I think 
you misunderstood it. Not  that it makes any significant difference whether  
you understood it or not. It just throws your  analysis of that part off 
quilter a bit. That is  the bit about "Not excluding acceptance of  
candidature". There Halifa is speaking of  himself and not the candidature of other. 
Share  with us your renewed understanding."] Evian  regurgitating what Haruna 
shared.

[As you  encouraged, I referred again to the relevant  statement of Halifa 
as follows (emphasis  mine):
"Even though I am not  excluding acceptance of candidature, I  have already 
declared that the best option is to  select a neutral candidate who will be 
able to  run a non partisan transitional cabinet for a  period of 2 to 5 
years and then step aside after  a genuine multiparty contest. It is left to  
Gambians to decide whether they have a better  way forward."] Evian 
repeating. 

[My  understanding of the statement remains the same  even though I admit 
that Halifa did not qualify  whose candidature he meant.] Evian.
 
Halifa did not need to qualify whose  candidature he spoke of. The English 
is sound  and very good. If it were you or Mams I would  have asked for 
further clarification.
 
[He did not indicated either "my" or "any"  to give us precision of 
reference to  candidature.] Evian.
 
Bailo, the MY is implicit. That happens all  the time in conversations in 
English. Just for  fun, let us replace MY with ANY just  before candidature. 
That would not have been the  best sentence structure but it still tells you 
 Halifa is speaking of himself. This is  because MY is the ownership litmus 
 but ANY goes to the quality of the  candidature and not domain. Hey Allah, 
I hope  you understand me. So let's extend the semantic  game further; Let 
us say Halifa meant Ousainou,  OJ, Hamat, or Waa's candidature, and insert 
any  of these names just before candidature. Now you  will agree with me that 
Halifa does not have the  purview of accepting other's candidature. Do you  
agree? If you don't just ask yourself where is  the authority for Halifa to 
ACCEPT a  dog-catcher's candidature????? He can ascend to  their 
candidatures when they accept accept it  themselves and the way he does that is by 
voting  his desire or ascension. These are some of the  games Shaky Shaky plays 
with English in order to  improve himself. Please let me know if you need  
further ideas on these and others.
 
[In essence, he might have been referring  to his own candidature or 
someone else's.]  Evian.
 
Unless he is retarded, he could not have  been referring to any other's 
candidature.
 
[It is for him to help clarify.]  Evian.
 
I don't need Halifa to clarify and I am  certain most of our coleagues 
don't need any  further clarification of the statement. Let us  save Halifa the 
mental gymnastics where he could  try to manufacture extraneous meaning. 
That will  be a bigger problem for the man.
 
[Whatever he meant, I know that either  interpretations are possible.] 
Evian.
 
You do the tests and convince yourself  either way. It is easy. You can do 
it  Bailo.

[In conclusion, I think you have mistakenly  fallen for that proverbial 
saying of comparing  apples and oranges in the following statement of  yours: 
"Halifa endorsing Ousainou's candidature  will be equal to you or me 
endorsing Ousainou's  candidature or Halifa's candidature at this  point in time. 
There is not much basis for  that."] Evian repeating what Haruna  shared.

[In order words, you have  over-rated yourself and me at to be at par with  
Halifa;] Evian.
 
No. I am not at par with Halifa. Just ask  him. We are of different mettle 
and polarly  opposite ambition.
 
[the latter is a political known and both  you and me are virtual political 
unknowns.]  Evian.
 
Well. Do you want to be a political known  Bailo????? I can make your arse 
famous in a  jiffy. You might not like what you become famous  for though. 
Political known. I have not heard  such cacamayme since Moussa Camara shared  
Mbaranbirinbiring with me in 1982 in  Kuntaur.
 
[Therein lies the difference between us  Halifa's endorsement of any 
candidature.]  Evian.
 
I see.
 
[Cheers] Evian.
 
Cheers to you too. And don't try to be cute  with your Grand Pa again. If 
you know what is  good for you, you'll turn in your PDOIS  armband.
 
I still love you though.
Haruna.

--- On Thu, 4/2/10, Modou  Nyang <[log in to unmask]>  wrote:



From:  Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]>
Subject:  Foroyaa News : HALIFA SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE  APRC TOUR
To: [log in to unmask]
Date:  Thursday, 4 February, 2010, 0:41

   Foroyaa News : HALIFA  SALLAH COMMENTS AFTER THE APRC TOUR, NO CREDIBLE  
RULING PARTY NO CREDIBLE OPPOSITION A NEW WAY  FORWARD NEEDED 

After the completion  of the APRC tour, Foroyaa approached Halifa  Sallah 
for comments.
This is what he  said:

“Political leaders should  tell their supporters the truth. A political  
vacuum exists in the Gambia. Some supporters of  the APRC said that the 
opposition parties in the  Gambia are not credible. They should also add  that the 
ruling party is not credible. Their  assessment of Gambian politics as it 
stands  would then be correct and balanced. Some leaders  who do not want to 
be honest to their supporters  are trying to give the impression that the  
statistics I have been putting out are over  statements. They are not telling 
their  supporters the truth. Political leaders should  tell the truth. For 
only the truth shall set us  free. I have relied on empirical evidence to  
conclude that at this very moment we do not have  a credible ruling party or 
opposition party. We  have a duty to create both. Those who are  offended by 
this statement are not prepared to  do what is necessary to save Gambian 
politics  from being an exercise in  mediocrity.

After the presidential  elections in 2006, I wrote a pamphlet in which I  
quoted the statistics to confirm my assertion.  Gambians have to be reminded 
these statistics to  awaken each from our political apathy.  

According to the IEC, 670, 336 voters  were registered prior to the 2006 
presidential  elections. When the results were delivered the  IEC indicated 
that the APRC candidate who was  also supported by the NCP had 264,404 votes. 
If  this is subtracted from the total number of  registered voters it would 
mean that 405,932  voters did not vote for the APRC candidate. The  UDP 
candidate who was also supported by NRP and  GPDP had 104,808 votes, while the 
NADD candidate  had 23,473 votes. The total votes of the  opposition amounted 
to 128,281 votes. If this is  subtracted from the total number of 
registered  voters it would be apparent that 542,055 voters  did not vote for the 
opposition. Wherein lies  the credibility of the ruling party and the  
opposition party if politics is reduced to its  lowest common denominator as contest 
based on  the number of votes. 

Interestingly  enough, in 2001 the APRC candidate had 242,302  votes when 
it forged no alliance with the NCP.  At that time there were 501,304 
registered  voters. Suffice it to say, even though the  number of voters increased 
by 169032, by 2006  the votes of the APRC could only increase by  22,102 
votes. The UDP candidate had 149,448  votes in 2001. Even though it developed 
alliance  with NRP, which had 35,671 votes in 2001, its  votes went down 
104,808 votes in the 2006  elections, despite the increase in the number of  
registered voters by 169032 voters.

Foroyaa: What is your  advise?

It is therefore necessary  for political leaders to go back to the drawing  
board and map out a new way forward. How is the  opposition to attract the 
542,055 voters who did  not vote for them is the subject at hand. This  is 
what Agenda 2011 is all about. Even though I  am not excluding acceptance of 
candidature, I  have already declared that the best option is to  select a 
neutral candidate who will be able to  run a non partisan transitional 
cabinet for a  period of 2 to 5 years and then step aside after  a genuine 
multiparty contest. It is left to  Gambians to decide whether they have a better  
way forward. 



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