Haruinerding Sissy Misogynistic pig, What happen to the English tuition? Im i making sense. Well, good that my friend and the post man have been busy with the madame, at least i am given some responsibility of some kids. With you being the sissy, knowing sissies don't work it, why *pretend that boy yours. I hope he is save in hands. With sissies you never know what they can do children. Im worried for that boy's real biological parents.* ** *Mboge (unwell and waiting to know my gender )* On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Congratulations Olfactor. You have three beautiful kids and one on the way. > We wish mom and baby a healthy carriage to term and do let us know when the > beautiful baby comes. See, if I didn't ask you, we'd never know and you > would have been running around causing folk anxiety and chagrin. But you > know being responsible for kids does not mean they are yours. A friend of > yours told me one looked like him and the other the mail man O'Donnelly > I love you men. You gotta invite us to the Ngainteh. If its a boy, name him > Haruna. Why not? Haruna. > -----Original Message----- > From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 4:13 am > Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT FOR > FORMER HIGH ... > > Haruinerding, > > Why do you wanna know if i have kids or not? Remember you still varifying > my gender/sex? Well, i am living with someone who believes i have what it > takes to give her two beautiful kids plus a third she is expecting this > summer. There is also another female who gave birth to a beautiful girl > some 12 years ago who believes yours truly is responsible. > > Maybe consult you *DaaManso for a revelation whether this genderless > one has kids or not.* > Mboge > > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > >> For someone who is not a sissy, you sure like talking about ASS >> Olfactor. And I didn't say jumping into any Dinko, I said Jumping OUT. >> You're already in there. Do you have kids Olfactor? >> >> Haruna. >> >> In a message dated 3/25/2010 3:41:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >> [log in to unmask] writes: >> >> MR Haruiner Ass, >> >> I thought you had few hours to cook for whatever kids you claimed to have >> *(are you sure that kid or kids are yours, sissies do not work it you >> know). *Or was it just a lie or pretentious brag about being a caring >> parent while the nasty misogynistic ass was letting the kids mum to do all >> the work. >> >> *Hope you have time cos you are gonna have a lot of fitting missing words >> in what you read from me, cos i cannot speak or write English or any >> language.* >> >> As for your drivel or should i say the runny stuff oozing from your >> bloated behind belong to the sewer, i wonder how it can make me jump into >> any *DINKO*. >> >> Since whenever someone points to the shitty fetid trash coming from your >> stinky behind, means people* hate or are jealous of you, well it will not >> wash with me. Or im waiting for your silly boast of what you have done for >> folk and how many people you have . You remember that one when you had an >> argument few years ago on another forum. As if Haruiner is the only person >> on earth helping out. Please there are thousands of people who are making a >> difference to others everyday without bragging about it. * >> ** >> Keep the cheap jibes coming. I keep chuckling seeing you doing all you can >> calling me unwell or suicidal perhaps thinking you are winding me up. Keep >> them coming *Mr Knucklehead Haruinerding. * >> ** >> *As i say i need no ones approval, encouragement, padding on the back on >> this forum or anywhere to be me. Moreso from a trashy ass like you. I have >> been surviving and doing my stuff without you or anyones help, so keep this >> shit about love or what have you to yourself. If hearing me saying >> that makes you have diarrhea so please situate your ass near a toilet cos >> you gonna have a lot coming your way.* >> >> A woman or man, or in betweeen, i am not sure. Please let me know what >> sex/gender i am. >> >> When did you become the purveyor of anything, moreso love and cheers. I >> did not know you are such a liar. Your record of insulting folk is >> legendary. Men, why are you pretending. >> >> *Mr Knucklehead Haruinerding sissy*, why ask a question when you know the >> answer. Perhaps it Nirvana as you say. Nirvana my you know what...! What >> more can i say to you knucklehead since you have revelations from DaaManso. >> >> Got to go now, catch up in few hours. I wonder if I am not making sense >> how come you are able to understand what i am writing . I see your side >> kick *Sountou MAMA Moofurriing* is moving on. How are the English >> lessons going with him and the rest of your entourage. Piss head *misogynist, >> see you later*. >> >> Mboge (*Unwell, tormented and waiting for your help to know what sex i >> am)* >> >> >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >> >>> [------Original Message----- From: Modou Mboge [log in to unmask]: >>> [log in to unmask] >>> Sent: Tue, Mar 23, 2010 1:16 pm Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused >>> win UK court case - PRECEDENT >>> FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE? Haruiner/Suntou, >>> Haruine rI choose what to call you, not you, get that.] Olfactor. >>> >>> Quit running your words together. Why can't you invent your own name for >>> me since you are your own man??? I guess you are now Mams' man. >>> >>> [Since you chose to call folk anything thatr visit you in your >>> hallucination, why are you telling me not call you what i choose. Get >>> pissed all you want, do i care i think not.] Olfactor. >>> >>> So if I tell you to jump out of the Big Dinko, you will do it eh? Ok Jump >>> out. To save your own life. >>> >>> [And talking about my use of the English language, yes i admit i am not >>> good at it but maybe first teach your entourage especially your side kick, >>> Suntou Moofuring who moonlights as a columnist to learn his grammer and >>> sentence structuring before he spew anything from his orifice.] Olfactor. >>> >>> Sidekick is one word. >>> Mohfooring. >>> grammar. >>> Sentence structure. >>> spews. >>> out of orifice. Not from orifice. Orifice is pejorative when referring to >>> a fellow citizen. >>> >>> [The two sissies Haruiner and Suntou Moofurin, i don't who is who, so you >>> fretting about me hating you. What silliness? Oh i see it is 'about my >>> delinquencies and inadequacies i guess.' Just shitty piffle.] Olfactor. >>> >>> You're not making sense here Olfactor. Haven't you forgotten a word or >>> two? >>> >>> [I am giving you your own medicine.] Olfactor. >>> HarunaMos don't take medicine. That's what I got in a fight with my >>> doctor about. I ended up convincing her not to take medicine herself. >>> She thought I was crazy. >>> >>> [You have been running your shitty mouths at anyone here who differs from >>> your the fetid opinions you keep spewing as some learned analysis.] >>> Olfactor. >>> >>> I only demand that you use correct English when you speak with me >>> Olfactor. Is that too much to ask?? What is "from your the fetid opinions"? >>> >>> [Haruiner, your misogynism is apparent, so what if i were a woman.] >>> Olfactor. >>> >>> So what if you are a woman? Acknowledging that is the first step. >>> >>> [Are women less than men?] Olfactor. >>> >>> NO. For the simple fact that she is called Woman means she is more than a >>> man. Whaddoyou think Olfactor? >>> >>> [amI happy to be called a woman or even in between.] Olfactor. >>> >>> So are you a woman or somewhere in between a man and a woman? >>> >>> [Suntou Moofuring, so you are with times because you read stuff from the >>> net. I know you've no idea to differentiate things but i tell you this >>> people have choices.] Olfactor. >>> >>> Yes. People have a choice to kill themselves too. Folk like you should >>> not be given free health care Olfactor. >>> >>> [Most people still enjoy reading from books, magazines, periodicals etc >>> the traditional way.] Olfactor. >>> >>> Yeah but what is your reason for being one of those people? That is the >>> question Olfactor. Is it Nirvana? >>> >>> [Get that Mr Fool pretender BUDDING political analyst.] Olfactor. >>> >>> This is uncalled for Olfactor. Why do you work yourself up just to hate? >>> What do you intend to accomplish by being rude just because you have always >>> been rude but have suppressed it against your good health? >>> >>> [Well, Haruiner if your side kick is nice with me, what is stopping you >>> from being nasty with me.] Olfactor. >>> Nothing that I can see. I just choose to be nice to you Olfactor. People >>> have choices you know. >>> >>> [As i said to you before, i do not seek, crave or need your friendship, >>> encouragement, cheer or love. Take them where they are needed or asked for. >>> I do not need or seek anyones anywhere else approval here or anyone to be >>> me. And that goes to >>> friends or family.] Olfactor. >>> >>> I am the purveyor of friendship, encouragement, cheer, or love just like >>> you are the purveyor of names. You know what that means don't you Olfactor? >>> What have your friends and family done to you Olfactor? I know deep down you >>> love me Olfactor. You just don't know it yet. I intend to yield you >>> revelations like you've never had them before. Do you dream Olfactor? >>> >>> [And why can't you guys stop lying about anyone trying to dictate to the >>> flea infested brain of Suntou Mama what to do with his political affiliation >>> with the UDP.] Olfactor. >>> >>> Not anyone. Someone. >>> flea-infested. >>> Suntoumana. >>> >>> [I only refer to the UDP because since he thinks people like me have been >>> domicile in the West for years without going home, i just thought since he >>> so politically savvy and with many qualifications as well as being endowed >>> with seeing things no ordinary >>> folk sees, just perhaps the UDP will be better served on the ground.] >>> Olfactor. >>> >>> What does being in the west for years without going home have to do with >>> UDP. You recall Suntou lives in the west too. The UDP is domiciled in >>> Gambia. >>> >>> [Moreover with his project of exposing Halifa Sallah and PDOIS why are >>> you Sountou Moofuring wasting in the West Midlands.] Olfactor. >>> >>> Aha. Halifa. BuDOIS Sek. >>> >>> [Bring it on! Call your back ups. I see you are throwing around >>> names. You have not seen anything yet from this unwell and tormented soul.] >>> Olfactor. >>> >>> I have not seen a hoomang bing get so excited over nothing as you >>> Olfactor. Are you well??? Bring what on? I think we need to expel you from >>> here. >>> >>> Haruna. >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Suntou who is this gentlewoman you keep sharing with us??? Gentle has >>> left Olfactor years ago. He is now crouchingtiger. Oh BTW Tiger will be >>> back for the Masters at Augusta National. i so look forward to that. I >>> have been practicing my putting over the year and my coach Tiger will >>> help improve that some more. Suntou you're too nice to Olfactor. Might >>> you now be an Elizabethan like my friend Hamjatta???? Where's that cat >>> anyway? How's he doing??? >>> T >>> >>> Haruna. >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent: Tue, Mar 23, 2010 6:16 am >>> Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT >>> FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE? >>> >>> >>> Haruna, your sense of humour has lighten up this place. I could not >>> stop laughing aloud. It is good for our soul. I will be requesting old >>> copies of the economist magazine from the gentleman, I will cancel my >>> own subscription. >>> Haruna, in this day and age, when both academic materials and proper >>> journals can be securely access online, when books are now in portable >>> computerise (digital form), i wonder why the gentleman is keen to let >>> us know that he receives the hard copy of the economist? I wonder. Talk >>> about refusing to march ahead with time. >>> Good news for the Gunners: JAY-Z want to invest in the club, Spike Lee >>> is our big fan as well. >>> >>> Haruna, I also commend your analysis of the actual case in question, >>> Justice Njie. As you opined, they knew full well Yahya will never allow >>> them to do their jobs independently, yet they agree to take the >>> positions, hence she should face the music. >>> The accusations are that of financial misappropriate. I also learnt >>> that, the Nigerians has taken over our legal profession, thanks to the >>> sack Justice Secretary. >>> The gentleman's anger is as a result months of disheartening comments >>> he couldn't bear coming from my end. He has already made up his mind to >>> insult me, emptying his heart's delight on me. I am happy that, he is >>> relieve of his burden. >>> Why get inflamed over Rwanda whilst our stakes are the Gambia. And why >>> be bothered about what I do with my party of choice? It is fascinating. >>> It is reported that, Kegame's own government has in it genocidal >>> maniacs who still boast about their Tutsiness, let him clean up those >>> sick folks before branding others 'divisionist'. Room for improvement. >>> The gentleman's quest to get personal is understandable. if it helps >>> him have a good enough sleep, it is fine by me. Say all you like >>> against Suntou, i am sure your friends will tap your shoulder for it, >>> as for me, i will enjoy my green tea and think of another subject. My >>> old advise is that, stop being rude, calm down and remember that, >>> people will be disappointed in you for using foul language. >>> Suntou >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Ok Olfactor. So you say Suntou changed the topic first. And you went >>> right along with the changed topic. You see what I mean about you >>> needing help Olfactor? >>> >>> I'm just kidding men. Let's chuck this one to a comedy of errors >>> Olfactor. I promise I got loads of other more significant stuff for >>> you. Please. I don't know why you're always on edge. I thought that was >>> Giuseppe, but I swear you're worse than my friend Giuseppe. But for his >>> unnecessary disdain for Hon. Hamat, theguy is a wonderful fellow. "If >>> you want to hide from Hamat go to Gambia". Men you guys are experts at >>> low blows. Even Evian can't top that. What????? >>> >>> WHy are you bringing Giuseppe into this discussion. I thought he were >>> your friend????? Olfactor you really need help. >>> Haruna. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 9:21 pm >>> Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT >>> FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE? >>> >>> >>> Haruiner, >>> >>> Low blows will not do! Varify yours first. Didn't your side kick >>> bring in Kagame into the discussion. >>> >>> Mboge >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Ehhh Olfactor, >>> >>> I am not your companion. Don't tell me someone changed our discussion >>> when you were the veritable detractor. And don't tell me you're a man >>> of your own when we are trying to discern if you're a man first. I am >>> not your companion. And are you a Pan-African??? >>> >>> Haruna. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> >>> >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 8:28 pm >>> Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT >>> FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE? >>> >>> >>> Haruiner, >>> >>> As usual, you've woken up and dittoing has began. Your stupid friend >>> moonlighting as the political analyst changed a strictly legal >>> discussion to comparing apples and oranges. There is nothing >>> comparable between Kagame and a rogue like Jammeh. >>> >>> Tell me about what jungle justice i am running away and what havoc did >>> i participate in to warrant my coming to live in the west. Persona >>> delinquencies and inadequacies, what load of BS >>> I am a man of my own and I am not seeking yours or anyones approval >>> for anything. Talk of trashy and nonesensical self-delusional >>> importance. >>> >>> Mboge >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Suntou, >>> >>> Thank you for your common sense. The problem with some of these folk is >>> that they participated in the wrecking of Africa before they fled >>> jungle justice or they had buyer's remorse once they settled in their >>> new western homes. And they blame their personal delinquencies and >>> inadequacies on the west. I say they brush their teeth before they >>> speak to me about Africa or Africans. How you change a conversation >>> about law and jurisprudence to a defense of kagame is beyond me. >>> kagame's person or character was not in question......however you feel >>> about the man. Extradition requests are between Judicial branches and >>> nations. Not between Presidents or other idiots. >>> >>> Thank you again for your marked sobrieties Suntou. >>> >>> Haruna. >>> >>> >>> -----Original Message----- >>> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> >>> >>> >>> Sent: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 6:17 am >>> Subject: Re: Fw: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - >>> PRECEDENT FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE? >>> >>> >>> >>> The gentle man who wishes to make some us look like uncaring Africans, >>> hence not qualify in advocating anything African should take a good at >>> himself and his place of domicile. Many a times we read and hear our >>> Pan-Africanist brothers resident in Europe and America for decades >>> lecturing us about Euro-American this and that on Africans.. How >>> self-serving these brothers are. >>> >>> If you wish to take the moral high ground on Africa, then do the decent >>> thing and parachute to the West, East, South or Central Africa, then >>> try screaming from the rooftop there, hopefully people will pay >>> attention to the nonsensical out pouring of cheap emotion. Some of this >>> So call Pan-Africanist hardly ever venture into Africa, yet they feel >>> singing Pan-Africa enough in making words relevant, give us a break. >>> The economist Magazine has nothing to lose or gain in the articles some >>> of its commentators write about Africa. Can we for once see things in >>> their right context instead fancying around hanging onto our own >>> baggage of partisan politics. If anyone is educated in the west, you >>> must without a question read books, be lectured by western professors >>> and enjoy the western way of live. What moral ground do you have to see >>> others as less of an African than you are? Below is the Economist >>> Magazine's article on Kegame and Rwanda. In fact the article >>> acknowledge the level of financial discipline the government of Kegame >>> is instituting, yet the other facts cannot be left unspoken about >>> because one is doing something’s right and other major wrongs. We >>> should delineate cheap emotion from serious issues >>> >>> >>> >>> http://www.economist.com/world/middle-east/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15622375 >>> >>> >>> Progress and repression in Rwanda >>> Divisionists beware >>> President Paul Kagame has improved people’s lives at the expense of >>> freedom >>> Mar 4th 2010 | NAIROBI | From The Economist print edition >>> Kagame, progressive and repressive >>> THE government of Rwanda is doing a lot of things right. It is pretty >>> open in its handling of aid money. Most foreign governments and >>> charities are so impressed by its detailed plans and apparent lack of >>> corruption that they are funnelling more of their aid directly through >>> Rwanda’s government. President Paul Kagame says he expects direct >>> budget support to rise by a quarter this year, to $519m. >>> The country has recovered valiantly from its year zero in 1994, when >>> 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus were slaughtered. Its centralised >>> state is leading the way in economic and technological reform in the >>> region. It is improving the country’s infrastructure, education and >>> farming, and seeks to preserve its ecology. It pushes equality for >>> women, who comprise half the government and parliament. >>> On the diplomatic front, Mr Kagame has been equally successful. He has >>> sent troops to help keep the peace in Sudan’s Darfur province and >>> elsewhere. He has stood up to mighty France, blaming it, as the >>> region’s then most influential Western power, for failing to prevent >>> the genocide. And last month the French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, >>> came to Rwanda and offered something close to an apology. France, he >>> said, had committed “grave errors of judgment” before, during, and >>> after the genocide. Questions linger about the role of French special >>> forces during the killing, as well as the fate of Hutus living in >>> France whom Rwanda wants extradited on suspicion of involvement in the >>> genocide. >>> France, for its part, has not dropped charges against some members of >>> Mr Kagame’s government who are alleged to have ordered the shooting >>> down of a French aircraft carrying Rwanda’s then president, Juvénal >>> Habyarimana, a Hutu; that action triggered the genocide. Yet both >>> countries now appear more at ease with each other. Days after Mr >>> Sarkozy’s visit, Mr Habyarimana’s widow, Agathe, was arrested near >>> Paris (and then freed on bail) for questioning over her alleged role in >>> the genocide. French businessmen came in Mr Sarkozy’s slipstream, >>> eyeing minerals and timber in neighbouring Congo, for which Rwanda is a >>> conduit. “There is no doubt this is a reconciliation,” says a Rwandan >>> government figure. >>> Yet awkward question-marks hang over Mr Kagame and his ruling Rwandan >>> Patriotic Front. The president’s detractors say his party has not owned >>> up to killing thousands of civilians immediately after the genocide or >>> to responsibility for causing much bloodshed in Congo, which it invaded >>> in order to hunt down the génocidaires who had fled there. The >>> Congolese government, it may be noted, has co-operated with the >>> Rwandans in their more recent incursions into Congo. >>> Mr Kagame and his government are stifling political and press freedom >>> in advance of a presidential election due in August. He is almost >>> certain to win but evidently he is determined to secure a big majority >>> to implement his “one Rwanda” policies. Opposition parties have been >>> forbidden to “use words or facts that defame other politicians”. In >>> practice, the government can label any criticism against it as >>> “divisionism”, which entitles it to lock up the offenders. Members of >>> the opposition say they are spied on and bullied. >>> It is unclear whether the government will let the Democratic Green >>> Party, a feisty new opposition group, be registered. If not, the Greens >>> say they will back another lot, the Socialist Party-Imberakuri, which >>> should be able to run a presidential candidate. The head of a third >>> opposition party, the United Democratic Forces-Inkingi, Victoire >>> Ingabire, says she has been vilified since returning from exile in >>> January. The government, she says, has encouraged people to assault >>> her, accusing her of being a génocidaire. This week a former military >>> intelligence chief, Kayumba Nyamwasa, who was reported to have joined >>> the Greens, fled Rwanda and is said to be claiming asylum in South >>> Africa. The government says he is wanted on criminal charges—presumably >>> divisionism. >>> End. >>> Going back to our own dictators corridors, What is it that his >>> supporter are fuming against us about? They are saying, the man is a >>> dictator of development and that he is fighting against corruption. He >>> has given women more power and rights. His Vice-President is a woman. >>> At some point in his government, there were more women in his >>> government as Ministers than the previous administration. All that the >>> gentleman is promoting Kegame for, Yahya Jammeh was once hail with >>> those same things. >>> Should there be any reason for the cubing of civil rights and plurality >>> of views? >>> Is Kegame himself innocent of pumping tribal issues in politics? In >>> fact, Kegame's men in the army including the high ranking female >>> officer play the card more than many others. Check their own Google >>> images Mr Gentleman. I have seen images of the Rwandan army's latest >>> incursion of Congo, the close senior officers bragging about their >>> prejudicial influences. These things aren’t as simple as the gentleman >>> is making it out to be. >>> Nothing should compromise tolerant co-existence, and the opposition >>> views is a key part to ensuring the population is represented at all >>> levels. Kegame's propaganda alone shouldn't be listened to at the >>> expense of others. He should be commended for lots of things, but he >>> also needs to understand that framing words against his opponent is not >>> healthy for the future stability of the country. Some of us are less of >>> a Pan-African, however, we know the working of a genuine democracy. >>> Advocates of Europeanism live in Europe. let our Pan-African folks >>> migrate to Africa, instead of crying wolf in western towns and cities. >>> Let not your bias of folks make you blind to their views. Stop been >>> haste over public issues. Take a deep breath and read the material >>> before jumping to conclusion. >>> LJ, thanks for your sober and intelligent analysis always. Long may we >>> have many non-partisan like you. Speaking the facts regardless of who >>> it come from. Saddly, folks here seems to look at names, party >>> afilliation, some ignoble little gangs before saying anything >>> tangible. You have shown to be above such petty mantra. >>> Suntou >>> >>> Suntou >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Lamin Darbo >>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> Mboge >>> >>> You are absolutely right that "Four men accused of taking part in the >>> 1994 Rwandan genocide win their High Court battle against >>> extradition" was "strictly premised on the significance of the Legal >>> precedence it sets for 'fugitives' claiming to be escaping >>> persecution". Specifically, I was thinking about Justice Safiatou Njie >>> (Justice Njie) and whether The Gambia Government is likely to succeed >>> in having her extradited by the UK. >>> >>> Although her alleged crimes are not political, the whole mechanism of >>> Gambian justice is heavily entangled in political calculations. She is >>> not likely to get a fair trial, and as a requirement of Article 6 of >>> the European Convention of Human Rights (ECHR), now statutorily >>> incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998 (HRA 1998), her >>> chance of eluding extradition is looking good. >>> >>> Even as the Rwandan decision is a brilliant exemplification of the rule >>> of law, I have to agree with you that the High Court decision was a >>> difficult one on moral grounds. I am unsure why Rwanda did not seek >>> their extradition for onward delivery to the International Criminal >>> Tribunal Rwanda (ICTR), based in the Tanzanian city of Arusha. >>> >>> For Rwanda, it should not matter where these alleged criminals are >>> prosecuted. The evidence is suggestive of some involvement by all four >>> in the '94 genocide. In that case, common sense would dictate that they >>> be prosecuted for their alleged crimes, and where found legally >>> culpable, adequately punished. >>> >>> Undoubtedly, the political arm of government was keen to have them >>> extradited, but the Judiciary blocked that wish on the explicit command >>> of both European, and UK law. >>> Stated differently, the High Court probably hated the outcome, but >>> there was a clear obligation to implement the law as it is. You are >>> right that under other circumstances, these laws can work quite well >>> for "genuine asylum seekers". This particular decision was nevertheless >>> quite agonising. >>> >>> As to Kagame, I defer to your expertise on the man, and his vision. >>> What he must do, and this sooner than he may prefer, is to create an >>> environment that allows his vision to incrementally mature even as he >>> himself no longer leads Rwanda. No one person can fully develop a >>> country, and in my view, this means that every African leader, and, >>> or, ruler, must come to terms with his/her own mortality. Only then >>> will a mighty continent actualise its great potential by making use of >>> the major part of the talent at its disposal. >>> >>> Many thanks for a fine response, and advocacy. >>> >>> Do you think the Gambia's extradition request regarding Justice Njie >>> should succeed? >>> >>> Regards >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> LJDarbo >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Sun, 21/3/10, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> >>> Subject: Re: Fw: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - >>> PRECEDENT FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE? >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Date: Sunday, 21 March, 2010, 17:38 >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> LJD, >>> >>> I guess your sharing the judgement on the Rwandans by the High Court of >>> the UK was strictly premised on the significance of the Legal >>> precedence it sets for 'fugitives' claiming to be escaping >>> persecution. I hope it is not presumptuous of me that you had in mind >>> the Gambian female judicial employee currently in the UK apparently >>> running away from Gambian justice a la Jammeh when you >>> shared the ruling. I assume that it is no rocket science that this >>> ruling will provide protection for the corrupt criminals, genocidaires >>> and their apologists from being brought to justice where it matters ie >>> where their alleged crimes were committed. >>> >>> It seems the so-called High Court Judges are more concerned with the >>> human rights of vile genocidaires than those genuine asylum seekers >>> whose fear of being killed and tortured in their homeland is >>> consistently ignored and questioned and in some instances ridiculed by >>> Western media pandering to the right-wing politics of the "other" >>> coming to take our jobs and scrounging on our generous welfare >>> systems. Im no lawyer but i hope this ruling also can be useful to >>> genuine asylum seekers. >>> >>> >>> Reading a response to the article you shared by our >>> "descerner extraordinaire on this forum" comparing our criminal outfit >>> headed by a deranged buffoon in the person of SHEPAD Jammeh gave >>> me zits as well as being squirmish for a while. >>> >>> The realities of Gambia and Rwanda are markedly different. Kagame and >>> Jammeh are poles apart. Kagame is a smart and patriotic leader, a >>> visionary engaged in healing a traumatized people, one fighting a good >>> fight in ushering in a new nation based on functioning >>> institutions. The howling on this divisionism by the Economist is in my >>> view an irrelevant unworthy distraction. Kagame should take no advise >>> or lecturing from a rabidly anti-African magazine that once ran a >>> feature cover story by Richard Dowden on Africa: The Hopeless >>> Continent. It may be true that many an African country is marred by >>> hunger, conflict and strife yet i have no doubt that if anything the >>> African peoples are mostly hopeful and optimistic about the future. >>> This may be sometimes wrongly attributed to fatalism. >>> >>> Of course there still remains a lot to be done in terms of democracy >>> and human rights in Rwanda but one must acknowledge the giant strides >>> already achieved in relation to these ideals. It is work in >>> progress that is being managed very well under extremely difficult >>> circumstances. Rwanda under Kagame boast one of the most enlightened >>> gender equality legislatures in the world. And this goes beyond just >>> symbolic balancing of the sexes in terms of representation (given that >>> 33% of the Rwandan Parliament is female) in politics. Women compete >>> and participate in all sectors of Rwanda society. There is evidence of >>> substantive and particapatory democracy in everyday life of the >>> ordinary Rwandan. The economy in Rwanda is booming, civil society is >>> being built and their advocacy left, right and centre permeates in and >>> at all levels of society. Under Kagame's Rwanda a state by all >>> standards that failed, has emerged way ahead of many African >>> countries in terms of health care access to its denizens. There is >>> national health insurance for virtually all Rwandans. With Rwanda now >>> on the right path to development and substantive participatory >>> democracy i join the hoard of admirers wishing the Kagame juggernaut to >>> keep steaming ahead. I do also hope that the juggernaut also destroys >>> and annihilate all the negative forces trying to block it especially >>> those coated in ethnicity. Ethnicity is important but not to the >>> detriment of building a prosperous Rwandan nation that concerns herself >>> with providing peace, prosperity and progress to its people. >>> >>> There exists a genuine concern by those trying to deny the horrid >>> genocide that took place in 1994. Politicians such as Victoire Ingabire >>> Umuhoza trying to play on ethnic sentiments must be reigned in. This >>> does not mean that people should be denied the right to associate >>> with the ethnic skirt they want to wear as long as it is not to villify >>> or create schisms between and among their brethren and sisters. >>> Afterall the Tutsi and Hutu are from the same family of Bantu-speaking >>> peoples. But if not for a sad historical constructionism perpetrated >>> by colonialists based on banal concepts such as >>> the Hamitic Hypothesis , the Tutsi-Hutu dichotomous relationship might >>> have been avoided. I shall not suffer the esteem lot of this forum on >>> the nitty-gritty of this racist hypothesis which helped in the pogroms >>> of the Tutusis in 1959 and the genocide of 1994. >>> >>> >>> We have seen the shenanigans of France and some other northern >>> governments trying to stifle the progress and development of Rwanda >>> since the RPF came into power. I will have Kagame any day as my leader >>> compared to the rogues we have splattered across our wounded continent >>> irresponsibly abusing the noble ideals of democracy and human rights. >>> >>> Best, >>> >>> Mboge >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:56 AM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> >>> wrote: >>> >>> LJ, reading the economies Magazine edition of last week, i can see >>> similar tactics in the arena of suppression of opposition views in >>> Rwanda to that our own mad man. Kegame's government invented a >>> dangerous term 'divisionist'. This term is label against opponents of >>> the government with the country's sad past. The genocidal past was >>> trigger by tribal sentiment, hence the divisionist concept. >>> It is interesting how our guys invent this sinister strategies to >>> suppress alternative views. Key members of the opposition are regularly >>> accused of being guilty of genocide, a tack one is unable to free >>> himself from. >>> Suntou >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Lamin Darbo >>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> --- On Fri, 19/3/10, LJD <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>> >>> From: LJD <[log in to unmask]> >>> Subject: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> Date: Friday, 19 March, 2010, 0:08 >>> >>> >>> LJD saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you >>> should see it. >>> >>> >>> >>> ** Rwanda accused win UK court case ** >>> Four men accused of taking part in the 1994 Rwandan genocide win their >>> High Court battle against extradition >>> < http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/uk/7989534.stm > >>> >>> >>> ** BBC Daily E-mail ** >>> Choose the news and sport headlines you want - when you want them, all >>> in one daily e-mail >>> < http://www.bbc.co.uk/email > >>> >>> >>> ** Disclaimer ** >>> The BBC is not responsible for the content of this e-mail, and anything >>> written in this e-mail does not necessarily reflect the BBC's views or >>> opinions. 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