Haruinerding misogynist,

 Chicken! Quack! Quack!  Don't give up to this unstable soul, he might have
wrong ideas.  Bring it on SISSY.  Where is ur side kick?  Now i see he is
a wannabe golf aficionado following his epiphany with the freebies on the
net.  I thought he likes freebies and yet how come he started talking about
cancelling his subcription with the ' *economies'.  Or perhaps it is another
lie, maybe leakage from below. IS THERE ANY publication with such a name,
just asking.*

Mboge (Needing your help)

On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 2:14 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> The lights are out. Boooh!
>
> Haruna.
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
>  Sent: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:06 pm
> Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT FOR
> FORMER HIGH ...
>
>  LJD,
>
> Thanks for this.  But let me continue with this piss head misogynist
> sissy with his pettiness.  I am not one of those whom he thinks he can scare
> to keep quite or say im done with this.  This discussion will go as long as
> he wants to take it.  Sorry for cluttering your email box with these
> exchanges but this MAD DOG will know that not all will succumb and run away
> from his usual silliness.
>
> Mboge
>
> On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 12:32 AM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>>    ATT Jr
>>
>> And I thought nothing escapes your watchful eye on Ellen!
>>
>> Mboge told us about his little darlings. Please refer to extract below
>>
>>
>> "Whilst convulsing in these anxious thoughts, suddenly, I saw my telephone
>> flashing with a familiar number displayed on the screen, I knew something I
>> didn’t want to hear was going to be conveyed.  I stared at the ringing
>> phone and was dazed for some moments before summoning the courage to pick it
>> up. I answered and the voice of Cousin Pa Omar (Damel) Faal came through,
>> and he said to me: ‘Mbye is gone’, at that very second I felt my heart
>> sinking in sorrow and I felt an inexplicable hollowness inside.  Gloom took
>> over and overwhelmed me. Tears started pouring out of my eyes.  My little
>> princess Olimata Mboge (moms namesake), gazed at me, wondering why my eyes
>> were wet with tears.  With her swift gait very similar to her sister’s
>> (Aminata Mboge), she came and sad on lap.  God bless her, kids as always
>> think their parents are superhuman so it was puzzling and strange for her to
>> see tears rolling down her dad’s cheeks. I looked at her and tried to
>> explain that Uncle Mbye has died but no sound came out.  Instead, she dabbed
>> the tears from my eyes with soft sheets of tissue paper and gave me a hug
>> and said to me in Norwegian ‘Deg gå bra, Papa’ (It’s gonna be alright,
>> Dad)."
>>
>>                                                 Modou Mboge, Thursday, May
>> 14, 2009 8:02 AM
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On *Thu, 25/3/10, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>* wrote:
>>
>>
>> From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>
>>
>> Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT FOR
>> FORMER HIGH ...
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Thursday, 25 March, 2010, 22:49
>>
>>
>>  Congratulations Olfactor. You have three beautiful kids and one on the
>> way. We wish mom and baby a healthy carriage to term and do let us know when
>> the beautiful baby comes. See, if I didn't ask you, we'd never know and you
>> would have been running around causing folk anxiety and chagrin. But you
>> know being responsible for kids does not mean they are yours. A friend of
>> yours told me one looked like him and the other the mail man O'Donnelly.
>>
>> I love you men. You gotta invite us to the Ngainteh. If its a boy, name
>> him Haruna. Why not? Haruna.
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 4:13 am
>> Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT FOR
>> FORMER HIGH ...
>>
>>  Haruinerding,
>>
>> Why do you wanna know if i have kids or not? Remember you still varifying
>> my gender/sex? Well, i am living with someone who believes i have what it
>> takes to give her two beautiful kids plus a third she is expecting this
>> summer.  There is also another female who gave birth to a beautiful girl
>> some 12 years ago who believes yours truly is responsible.
>>
>> Maybe consult you *DaaManso for a revelation whether this genderless
>> one has kids or not.*
>> Mboge
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>> > wrote:
>>
>>>  For someone who is not a sissy, you sure like talking about ASS
>>> Olfactor. And I didn't say jumping into any Dinko, I said Jumping OUT.
>>> You're already in there. Do you have kids Olfactor?
>>>
>>> Haruna.
>>>
>>>  In a message dated 3/25/2010 3:41:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>writes:
>>>
>>> MR Haruiner Ass,
>>>
>>> I thought you had few hours to cook for whatever kids you claimed to have
>>> *(are you sure that kid or kids are yours, sissies do not work it you
>>> know). *Or was it just a lie or pretentious brag about being a caring
>>> parent while the nasty misogynistic ass was letting the kids mum to do all
>>> the work.
>>>
>>> *Hope you have time cos you are gonna have a lot of fitting missing
>>> words in what you read from me, cos i cannot speak or write English or any
>>> language.*
>>>
>>> As  for your drivel or should i say the runny stuff oozing from your
>>> bloated behind belong to the sewer, i wonder how it can make me jump into
>>> any *DINKO*.
>>>
>>> Since whenever someone points to the shitty fetid trash coming from your
>>> stinky behind, means people* hate or are jealous of you, well it will
>>> not wash with me.  Or im waiting for your silly boast of what you have done
>>> for folk and how many people you have . You remember that one when you had
>>> an argument few years ago on another forum. As if Haruiner is the only
>>> person on earth helping out.  Please there are thousands of people who are
>>> making a difference to others  everyday without bragging about it. *
>>> **
>>> Keep the cheap jibes coming. I keep chuckling seeing you doing all you
>>> can calling me unwell or suicidal perhaps thinking you are winding me up.
>>> Keep them coming *Mr Knucklehead Haruinerding.  *
>>> **
>>> *As i say i need no ones approval, encouragement, padding on the back on
>>> this forum or anywhere to be me. Moreso from a trashy ass like you.  I have
>>> been surviving and doing my stuff without you or anyones help, so keep this
>>> shit about love or what have you to yourself. If hearing me saying
>>> that makes you have diarrhea so please situate your ass near a toilet cos
>>> you gonna have a lot coming your way.*
>>>
>>> A woman or man, or in betweeen, i am not sure.  Please let me know what
>>> sex/gender i am.
>>>
>>> When did you become the purveyor of anything, moreso love and cheers.  I
>>> did not know you are such a liar.  Your record of insulting folk is
>>> legendary.  Men, why are you pretending.
>>>
>>> *Mr Knucklehead Haruinerding sissy*, why ask a question when you know
>>> the answer.  Perhaps it Nirvana as you say. Nirvana my you know what...!
>>> What more can i say to you knucklehead since you have revelations from
>>> DaaManso.
>>>
>>> Got to go now, catch up in few hours.  I wonder if I am not making sense
>>> how come you are able to understand what i am writing .  I see your side
>>> kick *Sountou MAMA Moofurriing* is moving on.  How are the English
>>> lessons going with him and the rest of your entourage.  Piss head *misogynist,
>>> see you later*.
>>>
>>> Mboge (*Unwell, tormented and waiting for your help to know what sex i
>>> am)*
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>>> > wrote:
>>>
>>>>  [------Original Message----- From: Modou Mboge [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>To:
>>>> [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Sent: Tue, Mar 23, 2010 1:16 pm Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused
>>>> win UK court case - PRECEDENT
>>>> FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE? Haruiner/Suntou,
>>>> Haruine rI choose what to call you, not you, get that.] Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> Quit running your words together. Why can't you invent your own name for
>>>> me since you are your own man??? I guess you are now Mams' man.
>>>>
>>>> [Since you chose to call folk anything  thatr visit you in your
>>>> hallucination, why are you telling me not call you what i choose.  Get
>>>> pissed all you want, do i care i think not.] Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> So if I tell you to jump out of the Big Dinko, you will do it eh? Ok
>>>> Jump out. To save your own life.
>>>>
>>>> [And talking about my use of the English language, yes i admit i am not
>>>> good at it but maybe first teach your entourage especially your side kick,
>>>> Suntou Moofuring who moonlights as a columnist to learn his grammer and
>>>> sentence structuring before he spew anything from his orifice.] Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> Sidekick is one word.
>>>> Mohfooring.
>>>> grammar.
>>>> Sentence structure.
>>>> spews.
>>>> out of orifice. Not from orifice. Orifice is pejorative when referring
>>>> to a fellow citizen.
>>>>
>>>> [The two sissies Haruiner and Suntou Moofurin, i don't who is who, so
>>>> you fretting about me hating you.  What silliness? Oh i see  it is 'about my
>>>> delinquencies and inadequacies i guess.' Just shitty piffle.] Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> You're not making sense here Olfactor. Haven't you forgotten a word or
>>>> two?
>>>>
>>>> [I am giving you your own medicine.] Olfactor.
>>>> HarunaMos don't take medicine. That's what I got in a fight with my
>>>> doctor about. I ended up convincing her not to take medicine herself.
>>>> She thought I was crazy.
>>>>
>>>> [You have been running your shitty mouths at anyone here who differs
>>>> from your the fetid opinions you keep spewing as some learned analysis.]
>>>> Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> I only demand that you use correct English when you speak with me
>>>> Olfactor. Is that too much to ask?? What is "from your the fetid opinions"?
>>>>
>>>> [Haruiner, your  misogynism is apparent, so what  if i were a woman.]
>>>> Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> So what if you are a woman? Acknowledging that is the first step.
>>>>
>>>> [Are women less than men?] Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> NO. For the simple fact that she is called Woman means she is more than
>>>> a man. Whaddoyou think Olfactor?
>>>>
>>>> [amI happy to be called a woman or even in between.] Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> So are you a woman or somewhere in between a man and a woman?
>>>>
>>>> [Suntou Moofuring, so you are with times because you read stuff from the
>>>> net. I know you've no idea to differentiate things but i tell you this
>>>> people have choices.] Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> Yes. People have a choice to kill themselves too. Folk like you should
>>>> not be given free health care Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> [Most people still enjoy reading from books, magazines, periodicals etc
>>>> the traditional way.] Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> Yeah but what is your reason for being one of those people? That is the
>>>> question Olfactor. Is it Nirvana?
>>>>
>>>> [Get that Mr Fool pretender BUDDING political analyst.] Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> This is uncalled for Olfactor. Why do you work yourself up just to hate?
>>>> What do you intend to accomplish by being rude just because you have always
>>>> been rude but have suppressed it against your good health?
>>>>
>>>> [Well, Haruiner if your side kick is nice with me, what is stopping you
>>>> from being nasty with me.] Olfactor.
>>>> Nothing that I can see. I just choose to be nice to you Olfactor. People
>>>> have choices you know.
>>>>
>>>> [As i said to you before, i do not seek, crave or need  your friendship,
>>>> encouragement, cheer or love. Take them where they are needed or asked for.
>>>> I do not need or seek anyones anywhere else approval here or anyone to be
>>>> me.  And that goes to
>>>> friends or family.] Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> I am the purveyor of friendship, encouragement, cheer, or love just like
>>>> you are the purveyor of names. You know what that means don't you Olfactor?
>>>> What have your friends and family done to you Olfactor? I know deep down you
>>>> love me Olfactor. You just don't know it yet. I intend to yield you
>>>> revelations like you've never had them before. Do you dream Olfactor?
>>>>
>>>> [And why can't you guys stop lying about anyone trying to dictate to the
>>>> flea infested brain of Suntou Mama what to do with his political affiliation
>>>> with the UDP.] Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> Not anyone. Someone.
>>>> flea-infested.
>>>> Suntoumana.
>>>>
>>>> [I only refer to the UDP because since he thinks people like me have
>>>> been domicile in the West for years without going home, i just thought since
>>>> he so politically savvy and with many qualifications as well as being
>>>> endowed with seeing things no ordinary
>>>> folk sees, just perhaps the UDP will be better served on the ground.]
>>>> Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> What does being in the west for years without going home have to do with
>>>> UDP. You recall Suntou lives in the west too. The UDP is domiciled in
>>>> Gambia.
>>>>
>>>> [Moreover with his project of exposing Halifa Sallah and PDOIS why are
>>>> you Sountou Moofuring wasting in the West Midlands.] Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> Aha. Halifa. BuDOIS Sek.
>>>>
>>>> [Bring it on!  Call your back ups. I see you are throwing around
>>>> names. You have not seen anything yet from this unwell and tormented soul.]
>>>> Olfactor.
>>>>
>>>> I have not seen a hoomang bing get so excited over nothing as you
>>>> Olfactor. Are you well??? Bring what on? I think we need to expel you from
>>>> here.
>>>>
>>>> Haruna.
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Suntou who is this gentlewoman you keep sharing with us??? Gentle has
>>>> left Olfactor years ago. He is now crouchingtiger. Oh BTW Tiger will be
>>>> back for the Masters at Augusta National. i so look forward to that. I
>>>> have been practicing my putting over the year and my coach Tiger will
>>>> help improve that some more. Suntou you're too nice to Olfactor. Might
>>>> you now be an Elizabethan like my friend Hamjatta???? Where's that cat
>>>> anyway? How's he doing???
>>>> T
>>>>
>>>> Haruna.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Tue, Mar 23, 2010 6:16 am
>>>> Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT
>>>> FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Haruna, your sense of humour has lighten up this place. I could not
>>>> stop laughing aloud. It is good for our soul. I will be requesting old
>>>> copies of the economist magazine from the gentleman, I will cancel my
>>>> own subscription.
>>>> Haruna, in this day and age, when both academic materials and proper
>>>> journals can be securely access online, when books are now in portable
>>>> computerise (digital form), i wonder why the gentleman is keen to let
>>>> us know that he receives the hard copy of the economist? I wonder. Talk
>>>> about refusing to march ahead with time.
>>>> Good news for the Gunners: JAY-Z want to invest in the club, Spike Lee
>>>> is our big fan as well.
>>>>
>>>> Haruna, I also commend your analysis of the actual case in question,
>>>> Justice Njie. As you opined, they knew full well Yahya will never allow
>>>> them to do their jobs independently, yet they agree to take the
>>>> positions, hence she should face the music.
>>>> The accusations are that of financial misappropriate. I also learnt
>>>> that, the Nigerians has taken over our legal profession, thanks to the
>>>> sack Justice Secretary.
>>>> The gentleman's anger is as a result months of disheartening comments
>>>> he couldn't bear coming from my end. He has already made up his mind to
>>>> insult me, emptying his heart's delight on me. I am happy that, he is
>>>> relieve of his burden.
>>>>  Why get inflamed over Rwanda whilst our stakes are the Gambia. And why
>>>> be bothered about what I do with my party of choice? It is fascinating.
>>>> It is reported that, Kegame's own government has in it genocidal
>>>> maniacs who still boast about their Tutsiness, let him clean up those
>>>> sick folks before branding others 'divisionist'. Room for improvement.
>>>> The gentleman's quest to get personal is understandable. if it helps
>>>> him have a good enough sleep, it is fine by me. Say all you like
>>>> against Suntou, i am sure your friends will tap your shoulder for it,
>>>> as for me, i will enjoy my green tea and think of another subject. My
>>>> old advise is that, stop being rude, calm down and remember that,
>>>> people will be disappointed in you for using foul language.
>>>> Suntou
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ok Olfactor. So you say Suntou changed the topic first. And you went
>>>> right along with the changed topic. You see what I mean about you
>>>> needing help Olfactor?
>>>>
>>>> I'm just kidding men. Let's chuck this one to a comedy of errors
>>>> Olfactor. I promise I got loads of other more significant stuff for
>>>> you. Please. I don't know why you're always on edge. I thought that was
>>>> Giuseppe, but I swear you're worse than my friend Giuseppe. But for his
>>>> unnecessary disdain for Hon. Hamat, theguy is a wonderful fellow. "If
>>>> you want to hide from Hamat go to Gambia". Men you guys are experts at
>>>> low blows. Even Evian can't top that. What?????
>>>>
>>>> WHy are you bringing Giuseppe into this discussion. I thought he were
>>>> your friend????? Olfactor you really need help.
>>>> Haruna.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 9:21 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT
>>>> FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Haruiner,
>>>>
>>>> Low blows will not do!  Varify yours first.  Didn't your side kick
>>>> bring in Kagame into the discussion.
>>>>
>>>> Mboge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Ehhh Olfactor,
>>>>
>>>> I am not your companion. Don't tell me someone changed our discussion
>>>> when you were the veritable detractor. And don't tell me you're a man
>>>> of your own when we are trying to discern if you're a man first. I am
>>>> not your companion. And are you a Pan-African???
>>>>
>>>> Haruna.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 8:28 pm
>>>> Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT
>>>> FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Haruiner,
>>>>
>>>> As usual, you've woken up and dittoing has began.  Your stupid friend
>>>> moonlighting as the political analyst changed a strictly legal
>>>> discussion to comparing apples and oranges.  There is nothing
>>>> comparable between Kagame and a rogue like Jammeh.
>>>>
>>>> Tell me about what jungle justice i am running away and what havoc did
>>>> i participate in to warrant my coming to live in the west.  Persona
>>>> delinquencies and inadequacies, what load of BS
>>>> I am a man of my own and I am not seeking yours or anyones approval
>>>> for anything.  Talk of trashy and nonesensical self-delusional
>>>> importance.
>>>>
>>>> Mboge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Suntou,
>>>>
>>>> Thank you for your common sense. The problem with some of these folk is
>>>> that they participated in the wrecking of Africa before they fled
>>>> jungle justice or they had buyer's remorse once they settled in their
>>>> new western homes. And they blame their personal delinquencies and
>>>> inadequacies on the west. I say they brush their teeth before they
>>>> speak to me about Africa or Africans. How you change a conversation
>>>> about law and jurisprudence to a defense of kagame is beyond me.
>>>> kagame's person or character was not in question......however you feel
>>>> about the man. Extradition requests are between Judicial branches and
>>>> nations. Not between Presidents or other idiots.
>>>>
>>>> Thank you again for your marked sobrieties Suntou.
>>>>
>>>> Haruna.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 6:17 am
>>>> Subject: Re: Fw: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case -
>>>> PRECEDENT FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> The gentle man who wishes to make some us look like uncaring Africans,
>>>> hence not qualify in advocating anything African should take a good at
>>>> himself and his place of domicile. Many a times we read and hear our
>>>> Pan-Africanist brothers resident in Europe and America for decades
>>>> lecturing us about Euro-American this and that on Africans.. How
>>>> self-serving these brothers are.
>>>>
>>>> If you wish to take the moral high ground on Africa, then do the decent
>>>> thing and parachute to the West, East, South or Central Africa, then
>>>> try screaming from the rooftop there, hopefully people will pay
>>>> attention to the nonsensical out pouring of cheap emotion. Some of this
>>>> So call Pan-Africanist hardly ever venture into Africa, yet they feel
>>>> singing Pan-Africa enough in making words relevant, give us a break.
>>>> The economist Magazine has nothing to lose or gain in the articles some
>>>> of its commentators write about Africa. Can we for once see things in
>>>> their right context instead fancying around hanging onto our own
>>>> baggage of partisan politics. If anyone is educated in the west, you
>>>> must without a question read books, be lectured by western professors
>>>> and enjoy the western way of live. What moral ground do you have to see
>>>> others as less of an African than you are? Below is the Economist
>>>> Magazine's article on Kegame and Rwanda. In fact the article
>>>> acknowledge the level of financial discipline the government of Kegame
>>>> is instituting, yet the other facts cannot be left unspoken about
>>>> because one is doing something’s right and other major wrongs. We
>>>> should delineate cheap emotion from serious issues
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> http://www.economist.com/world/middle-east/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15622375
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Progress and repression in Rwanda
>>>> Divisionists beware
>>>> President Paul Kagame has improved people’s lives at the expense of
>>>> freedom
>>>> Mar 4th 2010 | NAIROBI | From The Economist print edition
>>>> Kagame, progressive and repressive
>>>> THE government of Rwanda is doing a lot of things right. It is pretty
>>>> open in its handling of aid money. Most foreign governments and
>>>> charities are so impressed by its detailed plans and apparent lack of
>>>> corruption that they are funnelling more of their aid directly through
>>>> Rwanda’s government. President Paul Kagame says he expects direct
>>>> budget support to rise by a quarter this year, to $519m.
>>>> The country has recovered valiantly from its year zero in 1994, when
>>>> 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus were slaughtered. Its centralised
>>>> state is leading the way in economic and technological reform in the
>>>> region. It is improving the country’s infrastructure, education and
>>>> farming, and seeks to preserve its ecology. It pushes equality for
>>>> women, who comprise half the government and parliament.
>>>> On the diplomatic front, Mr Kagame has been equally successful. He has
>>>> sent troops to help keep the peace in Sudan’s Darfur province and
>>>> elsewhere. He has stood up to mighty France, blaming it, as the
>>>> region’s then most influential Western power, for failing to prevent
>>>> the genocide. And last month the French president, Nicolas Sarkozy,
>>>> came to Rwanda and offered something close to an apology. France, he
>>>> said, had committed “grave errors of judgment” before, during, and
>>>> after the genocide. Questions linger about the role of French special
>>>> forces during the killing, as well as the fate of Hutus living in
>>>> France whom Rwanda wants extradited on suspicion of involvement in the
>>>> genocide.
>>>> France, for its part, has not dropped charges against some members of
>>>> Mr Kagame’s government who are alleged to have ordered the shooting
>>>> down of a French aircraft carrying Rwanda’s then president, Juvénal
>>>> Habyarimana, a Hutu; that action triggered the genocide. Yet both
>>>> countries now appear more at ease with each other. Days after Mr
>>>> Sarkozy’s visit, Mr Habyarimana’s widow, Agathe, was arrested near
>>>> Paris (and then freed on bail) for questioning over her alleged role in
>>>> the genocide. French businessmen came in Mr Sarkozy’s slipstream,
>>>> eyeing minerals and timber in neighbouring Congo, for which Rwanda is a
>>>> conduit. “There is no doubt this is a reconciliation,” says a Rwandan
>>>> government figure.
>>>> Yet awkward question-marks hang over Mr Kagame and his ruling Rwandan
>>>> Patriotic Front. The president’s detractors say his party has not owned
>>>> up to killing thousands of civilians immediately after the genocide or
>>>> to responsibility for causing much bloodshed in Congo, which it invaded
>>>> in order to hunt down the génocidaires who had fled there. The
>>>> Congolese government, it may be noted, has co-operated with the
>>>> Rwandans in their more recent incursions into Congo.
>>>> Mr Kagame and his government are stifling political and press freedom
>>>> in advance of a presidential election due in August. He is almost
>>>> certain to win but evidently he is determined to secure a big majority
>>>> to implement his “one Rwanda” policies. Opposition parties have been
>>>> forbidden to “use words or facts that defame other politicians”. In
>>>> practice, the government can label any criticism against it as
>>>> “divisionism”, which entitles it to lock up the offenders. Members of
>>>> the opposition say they are spied on and bullied.
>>>> It is unclear whether the government will let the Democratic Green
>>>> Party, a feisty new opposition group, be registered. If not, the Greens
>>>> say they will back another lot, the Socialist Party-Imberakuri, which
>>>> should be able to run a presidential candidate. The head of a third
>>>> opposition party, the United Democratic Forces-Inkingi, Victoire
>>>> Ingabire, says she has been vilified since returning from exile in
>>>> January. The government, she says, has encouraged people to assault
>>>> her, accusing her of being a génocidaire. This week a former military
>>>> intelligence chief, Kayumba Nyamwasa, who was reported to have joined
>>>> the Greens, fled Rwanda and is said to be claiming asylum in South
>>>> Africa. The government says he is wanted on criminal charges—presumably
>>>> divisionism.
>>>> End.
>>>> Going back to our own dictators corridors, What is it that his
>>>> supporter are fuming against us about? They are saying, the man is a
>>>> dictator of development and that he is fighting against corruption. He
>>>> has given women more power and rights. His Vice-President is a woman.
>>>> At some point in his government, there were more women in his
>>>> government as Ministers than the previous administration. All that the
>>>> gentleman is promoting Kegame for, Yahya Jammeh was once hail with
>>>> those same things.
>>>> Should there be any reason for the cubing of civil rights and plurality
>>>> of views?
>>>> Is Kegame himself innocent of pumping tribal issues in politics? In
>>>> fact, Kegame's men in the army including the high ranking female
>>>> officer play the card more than many others. Check their own Google
>>>> images Mr Gentleman. I have seen images of the Rwandan army's latest
>>>> incursion of Congo, the close senior officers bragging about their
>>>> prejudicial influences. These things aren’t as simple as the gentleman
>>>> is making it out to be.
>>>> Nothing should compromise tolerant co-existence, and the opposition
>>>> views is a key part to ensuring the population is represented at all
>>>> levels. Kegame's propaganda alone shouldn't be listened to at the
>>>> expense of others. He should be commended for lots of things, but he
>>>> also needs to understand that framing words against his opponent is not
>>>> healthy for the future stability of the country. Some of us are less of
>>>> a Pan-African, however, we know the working of a genuine democracy.
>>>> Advocates of Europeanism live in Europe. let our Pan-African folks
>>>> migrate to Africa, instead of crying wolf in western towns and cities.
>>>> Let not your bias of folks make you blind to their views. Stop been
>>>> haste over public issues. Take a deep breath and read the material
>>>> before jumping to conclusion.
>>>> LJ, thanks for your sober and intelligent analysis always. Long may we
>>>> have many non-partisan like you. Speaking the facts regardless of who
>>>> it come from. Saddly, folks here seems to look at names, party
>>>> afilliation, some ignoble little gangs before saying anything
>>>> tangible.      You have shown to be above such petty mantra.
>>>> Suntou
>>>>
>>>> Suntou
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Lamin Darbo
>>>> <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mboge
>>>>
>>>> You are absolutely right that "Four men accused of taking part in the
>>>> 1994 Rwandan genocide win their High Court battle against
>>>> extradition" was "strictly premised on the significance of the Legal
>>>> precedence it sets for 'fugitives' claiming to be escaping
>>>> persecution". Specifically, I was thinking about Justice Safiatou Njie
>>>> (Justice Njie) and whether The Gambia Government is likely to succeed
>>>> in having her extradited by the UK.
>>>>
>>>> Although her alleged crimes are not political, the whole mechanism of
>>>> Gambian justice is heavily entangled in political calculations. She is
>>>> not likely to get a fair trial, and as a requirement of Article 6 of
>>>> the European Convention of Human Rights (ECHR), now statutorily
>>>> incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998 (HRA 1998), her
>>>> chance of eluding extradition is looking good.
>>>>
>>>> Even as the Rwandan decision is a brilliant exemplification of the rule
>>>> of law, I have to agree with you that the High Court decision was a
>>>> difficult one on moral grounds. I am unsure why Rwanda did not seek
>>>> their extradition for onward delivery to the International Criminal
>>>> Tribunal Rwanda (ICTR), based in the Tanzanian city of Arusha.
>>>>
>>>> For Rwanda, it should not matter where these alleged criminals are
>>>> prosecuted. The evidence is suggestive of some involvement by all four
>>>> in the '94 genocide. In that case, common sense would dictate that they
>>>> be prosecuted for their alleged crimes, and where found legally
>>>> culpable, adequately punished.
>>>>
>>>> Undoubtedly, the political arm of government was keen to have them
>>>> extradited, but the Judiciary blocked that wish on the explicit command
>>>> of both European, and UK law.
>>>> Stated differently, the High Court probably hated the outcome, but
>>>> there was a clear obligation to implement the law as it is. You are
>>>> right that under other circumstances, these laws can work quite well
>>>> for "genuine asylum seekers". This particular decision was nevertheless
>>>> quite agonising.
>>>>
>>>> As to Kagame, I defer to your expertise on the man, and his vision.
>>>> What he must do, and this sooner than he may prefer, is to create an
>>>> environment that allows his vision to incrementally mature even as he
>>>> himself no longer leads Rwanda. No one person can fully develop a
>>>> country,  and in my view, this means that every African leader, and,
>>>> or, ruler, must come to terms with his/her own mortality. Only then
>>>> will a mighty continent actualise its great potential by making use of
>>>> the major part of the talent at its disposal.
>>>>
>>>> Many thanks for a fine response, and advocacy.
>>>>
>>>> Do you think the Gambia's extradition request regarding Justice Njie
>>>> should succeed?
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LJDarbo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Sun, 21/3/10, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >
>>>> Subject: Re: Fw: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case -
>>>> PRECEDENT FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE?
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Date: Sunday, 21 March, 2010, 17:38
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LJD,
>>>>
>>>> I guess your sharing the judgement on the Rwandans by the High Court of
>>>> the UK was strictly premised on the significance of the Legal
>>>> precedence it sets for 'fugitives' claiming to be escaping
>>>> persecution. I hope it is not presumptuous of me that you had in mind
>>>> the Gambian female judicial employee currently in the UK apparently
>>>> running away from Gambian justice a la Jammeh when you
>>>> shared the ruling.   I assume that it is no rocket science that this
>>>> ruling will provide protection for the corrupt criminals, genocidaires
>>>> and their apologists from being brought to justice where it matters ie
>>>> where their alleged crimes were committed.
>>>>
>>>> It seems the so-called High Court Judges are more concerned with the
>>>> human rights of  vile genocidaires than those genuine asylum seekers
>>>> whose fear of being killed and tortured in their homeland is
>>>> consistently ignored and questioned  and in some instances ridiculed by
>>>> Western media pandering to the right-wing politics of the "other"
>>>> coming to take our jobs and scrounging on our generous welfare
>>>> systems.  Im no lawyer but i hope this ruling also can be useful to
>>>> genuine asylum seekers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Reading a response to the article you shared by our
>>>> "descerner extraordinaire on this forum" comparing our criminal outfit
>>>> headed by a deranged buffoon in the person of SHEPAD Jammeh gave
>>>> me zits as well as being squirmish for a while.
>>>>
>>>> The realities of Gambia and Rwanda are markedly different.   Kagame and
>>>> Jammeh are poles apart.  Kagame is a smart and  patriotic leader, a
>>>> visionary engaged in healing a traumatized people, one fighting a good
>>>> fight in ushering in a new nation based on functioning
>>>> institutions. The howling on this divisionism by the Economist is in my
>>>> view an irrelevant unworthy distraction. Kagame should take no advise
>>>> or lecturing from a rabidly anti-African magazine that once ran a
>>>> feature cover story by Richard Dowden on Africa: The Hopeless
>>>> Continent.  It may be true that many an African country is marred by
>>>> hunger, conflict and strife yet i have no doubt that if anything the
>>>> African peoples are mostly hopeful and optimistic  about the future.
>>>> This may be sometimes wrongly attributed to fatalism.
>>>>
>>>>  Of course there still remains a lot to be done in terms of democracy
>>>> and human rights in Rwanda but one must acknowledge the giant strides
>>>> already achieved in relation to these ideals.  It is work in
>>>> progress that is being managed very well under extremely difficult
>>>> circumstances.  Rwanda under Kagame boast one of the most enlightened
>>>> gender equality legislatures in the world.  And this goes beyond just
>>>> symbolic balancing of the sexes in terms of representation (given that
>>>> 33% of the Rwandan Parliament is female)  in politics. Women compete
>>>> and participate in all sectors of Rwanda society.  There is evidence of
>>>> substantive and particapatory democracy in everyday life of the
>>>> ordinary Rwandan. The economy in Rwanda is booming, civil society is
>>>> being built and their advocacy left, right and centre permeates in and
>>>> at all levels of society. Under Kagame's Rwanda a state by all
>>>> standards that failed, has emerged way ahead of many African
>>>> countries in terms of health care access to its denizens.  There is
>>>> national health insurance for virtually all Rwandans.  With Rwanda now
>>>> on the right path to development and substantive participatory
>>>> democracy i join the hoard of admirers wishing the Kagame juggernaut to
>>>> keep steaming ahead.  I do also hope that the juggernaut also destroys
>>>> and annihilate all the negative forces trying to block it especially
>>>> those coated in ethnicity.  Ethnicity is important but not to the
>>>> detriment of building a prosperous Rwandan nation that concerns herself
>>>> with providing peace, prosperity and progress  to its people.
>>>>
>>>> There exists a genuine concern by those trying to deny the horrid
>>>> genocide that took place in 1994. Politicians such as Victoire Ingabire
>>>> Umuhoza trying to play on ethnic sentiments must be reigned in.  This
>>>> does not mean that people should be denied the right to associate
>>>> with the ethnic skirt they want to wear as long as it is not to villify
>>>> or create schisms between and among their brethren and sisters.
>>>> Afterall the Tutsi and Hutu are from the same family of Bantu-speaking
>>>> peoples.  But if not for a sad historical constructionism perpetrated
>>>> by colonialists based on banal concepts such as
>>>> the Hamitic Hypothesis , the Tutsi-Hutu dichotomous relationship might
>>>> have been avoided.  I shall not suffer the esteem lot of this forum on
>>>> the nitty-gritty of this racist hypothesis which helped in the pogroms
>>>> of the Tutusis in 1959 and the genocide of 1994.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>  We have seen the shenanigans of France and some other northern
>>>> governments trying to stifle the progress and development of Rwanda
>>>> since the RPF came into power.  I will have Kagame any day as my leader
>>>> compared to the rogues we have splattered across our wounded continent
>>>> irresponsibly abusing the noble ideals of democracy and human rights.
>>>>
>>>> Best,
>>>>
>>>> Mboge
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:56 AM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> LJ, reading the economies Magazine edition of last week, i can see
>>>> similar tactics in the arena of suppression of opposition views in
>>>> Rwanda to that our own mad man. Kegame's government invented a
>>>> dangerous term 'divisionist'. This term is label against opponents of
>>>> the government with the country's sad past. The genocidal past was
>>>> trigger by tribal sentiment, hence the divisionist concept.
>>>> It is interesting how our guys invent this sinister strategies to
>>>> suppress alternative views. Key members of the opposition are regularly
>>>> accused of being guilty of genocide, a tack one is unable to free
>>>> himself from.
>>>> Suntou
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Lamin Darbo
>>>> <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --- On Fri, 19/3/10, LJD <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> From: LJD <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> >
>>>> Subject: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case
>>>> To: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>>>> Date: Friday, 19 March, 2010, 0:08
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LJD saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you
>>>> should see it.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> ** Rwanda accused win UK court case **
>>>> Four men accused of taking part in the 1994 Rwandan genocide win their
>>>> High Court battle against extradition
>>>> < http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/uk/7989534.stm >
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