Haruinerding, I wanna know my gender, sissy. You said you need to varify whether i am a man or a woman or in between. Why do you wanna know where i live? I thought you knew. Dublin, Oslo, Barcelona, Buenos Aires, London, Lisbon, Warsaw maybe. Have i left Norway? Go get your friend O'Donnelly to check my address. *I have nothing in common with a piss head misogynist. I am very worried about the safety of children around you. These kids around me know who cares for them or not. Ask O'Donnelly or my friend.* ** Mboge *(With the tantrums) On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 2:41 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Olfactor, > > I just realised you and I have a lot in common. Well your friend and > mailman entrusted their kids to you. Someone entrusted kids to me. The only > difference is you wonder whether my kids are in safe hands. For me I am > confident yours are in good hands. So until you find out if my kids are in > safe hands, we are virtually alike. You like speaking of ass and shit. And > you shared with us someone wanted to make you responsible for a child who > may not be yours. I wonder did you ever verify if you are responsible for > that child? I believe its the 12-year old. Even if you are not responsible > for the child (whatever you mean by that) I encourage you to adopt her as > yours. There seems to be room in your family for the child. What do you > say??? Perhaps the mother is crying out for you to adopt the child. Be the > gentleman you always were. Please Olfactor. What I say is if someone wants > to make you responsible for a child, go ahead be responsible. It is > flattering for someone to want you to care for their child. I mean at least > they are not forcing you to marry them. Just take the child. And when > they're good and ready to have the child back, gladly return her. I am > curious as to what you decide on this. You must have lived in Norway before. > Oh that's right I remmember. Why did you leave Norway?? > > Haruna. Those idiots like walking around butt-naked. Talk about ASS. > -----Original Message----- > From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 9:15 pm > Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT FOR > FORMER HIGH ... > > Haruinerding Sissy Misogynistic pig, > > What happen to the English tuition? Im i making sense. Well, good that my > friend and the post man have been busy with the madame, at least i am given > some responsibility of some kids. With you being the sissy, knowing sissies > don't work it, why *pretend that boy yours. I hope he is save in hands. > With sissies you never know what they can do children. Im worried for that > boy's real biological parents.* > ** > *Mboge (unwell and waiting to know my gender )* > > > On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > >> Congratulations Olfactor. You have three beautiful kids and one on the >> way. We wish mom and baby a healthy carriage to term and do let us know when >> the beautiful baby comes. See, if I didn't ask you, we'd never know and you >> would have been running around causing folk anxiety and chagrin. But you >> know being responsible for kids does not mean they are yours. A friend of >> yours told me one looked like him and the other the mail man O'Donnelly >> I love you men. You gotta invite us to the Ngainteh. If its a boy, name >> him Haruna. Why not? Haruna. >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Sent: Thu, Mar 25, 2010 4:13 am >> Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT FOR >> FORMER HIGH ... >> >> Haruinerding, >> >> Why do you wanna know if i have kids or not? Remember you still varifying >> my gender/sex? Well, i am living with someone who believes i have what it >> takes to give her two beautiful kids plus a third she is expecting this >> summer. There is also another female who gave birth to a beautiful girl >> some 12 years ago who believes yours truly is responsible. >> >> Maybe consult you *DaaManso for a revelation whether this genderless >> one has kids or not.* >> Mboge >> >> >> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 8:47 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >> >>> For someone who is not a sissy, you sure like talking about ASS >>> Olfactor. And I didn't say jumping into any Dinko, I said Jumping OUT. >>> You're already in there. Do you have kids Olfactor? >>> >>> Haruna. >>> >>> In a message dated 3/25/2010 3:41:19 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, >>> [log in to unmask] writes: >>> >>> MR Haruiner Ass, >>> >>> I thought you had few hours to cook for whatever kids you claimed to have >>> *(are you sure that kid or kids are yours, sissies do not work it you >>> know). *Or was it just a lie or pretentious brag about being a caring >>> parent while the nasty misogynistic ass was letting the kids mum to do all >>> the work. >>> >>> *Hope you have time cos you are gonna have a lot of fitting missing >>> words in what you read from me, cos i cannot speak or write English or any >>> language.* >>> >>> As for your drivel or should i say the runny stuff oozing from your >>> bloated behind belong to the sewer, i wonder how it can make me jump into >>> any *DINKO*. >>> >>> Since whenever someone points to the shitty fetid trash coming from your >>> stinky behind, means people* hate or are jealous of you, well it will >>> not wash with me. Or im waiting for your silly boast of what you have done >>> for folk and how many people you have . You remember that one when you had >>> an argument few years ago on another forum. As if Haruiner is the only >>> person on earth helping out. Please there are thousands of people who are >>> making a difference to others everyday without bragging about it. * >>> ** >>> Keep the cheap jibes coming. I keep chuckling seeing you doing all you >>> can calling me unwell or suicidal perhaps thinking you are winding me up. >>> Keep them coming *Mr Knucklehead Haruinerding. * >>> ** >>> *As i say i need no ones approval, encouragement, padding on the back on >>> this forum or anywhere to be me. Moreso from a trashy ass like you. I have >>> been surviving and doing my stuff without you or anyones help, so keep this >>> shit about love or what have you to yourself. If hearing me saying >>> that makes you have diarrhea so please situate your ass near a toilet cos >>> you gonna have a lot coming your way.* >>> >>> A woman or man, or in betweeen, i am not sure. Please let me know what >>> sex/gender i am. >>> >>> When did you become the purveyor of anything, moreso love and cheers. I >>> did not know you are such a liar. Your record of insulting folk is >>> legendary. Men, why are you pretending. >>> >>> *Mr Knucklehead Haruinerding sissy*, why ask a question when you know >>> the answer. Perhaps it Nirvana as you say. Nirvana my you know what...! >>> What more can i say to you knucklehead since you have revelations from >>> DaaManso. >>> >>> Got to go now, catch up in few hours. I wonder if I am not making sense >>> how come you are able to understand what i am writing . I see your side >>> kick *Sountou MAMA Moofurriing* is moving on. How are the English >>> lessons going with him and the rest of your entourage. Piss head *misogynist, >>> see you later*. >>> >>> Mboge (*Unwell, tormented and waiting for your help to know what sex i >>> am)* >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 7:22 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >>> >>>> [------Original Message----- From: Modou Mboge [log in to unmask]: >>>> [log in to unmask] >>>> Sent: Tue, Mar 23, 2010 1:16 pm Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused >>>> win UK court case - PRECEDENT >>>> FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE? Haruiner/Suntou, >>>> Haruine rI choose what to call you, not you, get that.] Olfactor. >>>> >>>> Quit running your words together. Why can't you invent your own name for >>>> me since you are your own man??? I guess you are now Mams' man. >>>> >>>> [Since you chose to call folk anything thatr visit you in your >>>> hallucination, why are you telling me not call you what i choose. Get >>>> pissed all you want, do i care i think not.] Olfactor. >>>> >>>> So if I tell you to jump out of the Big Dinko, you will do it eh? Ok >>>> Jump out. To save your own life. >>>> >>>> [And talking about my use of the English language, yes i admit i am not >>>> good at it but maybe first teach your entourage especially your side kick, >>>> Suntou Moofuring who moonlights as a columnist to learn his grammer and >>>> sentence structuring before he spew anything from his orifice.] Olfactor. >>>> >>>> Sidekick is one word. >>>> Mohfooring. >>>> grammar. >>>> Sentence structure. >>>> spews. >>>> out of orifice. Not from orifice. Orifice is pejorative when referring >>>> to a fellow citizen. >>>> >>>> [The two sissies Haruiner and Suntou Moofurin, i don't who is who, so >>>> you fretting about me hating you. What silliness? Oh i see it is 'about my >>>> delinquencies and inadequacies i guess.' Just shitty piffle.] Olfactor. >>>> >>>> You're not making sense here Olfactor. Haven't you forgotten a word or >>>> two? >>>> >>>> [I am giving you your own medicine.] Olfactor. >>>> HarunaMos don't take medicine. That's what I got in a fight with my >>>> doctor about. I ended up convincing her not to take medicine herself. >>>> She thought I was crazy. >>>> >>>> [You have been running your shitty mouths at anyone here who differs >>>> from your the fetid opinions you keep spewing as some learned analysis.] >>>> Olfactor. >>>> >>>> I only demand that you use correct English when you speak with me >>>> Olfactor. Is that too much to ask?? What is "from your the fetid opinions"? >>>> >>>> [Haruiner, your misogynism is apparent, so what if i were a woman.] >>>> Olfactor. >>>> >>>> So what if you are a woman? Acknowledging that is the first step. >>>> >>>> [Are women less than men?] Olfactor. >>>> >>>> NO. For the simple fact that she is called Woman means she is more than >>>> a man. Whaddoyou think Olfactor? >>>> >>>> [amI happy to be called a woman or even in between.] Olfactor. >>>> >>>> So are you a woman or somewhere in between a man and a woman? >>>> >>>> [Suntou Moofuring, so you are with times because you read stuff from the >>>> net. I know you've no idea to differentiate things but i tell you this >>>> people have choices.] Olfactor. >>>> >>>> Yes. People have a choice to kill themselves too. Folk like you should >>>> not be given free health care Olfactor. >>>> >>>> [Most people still enjoy reading from books, magazines, periodicals etc >>>> the traditional way.] Olfactor. >>>> >>>> Yeah but what is your reason for being one of those people? That is the >>>> question Olfactor. Is it Nirvana? >>>> >>>> [Get that Mr Fool pretender BUDDING political analyst.] Olfactor. >>>> >>>> This is uncalled for Olfactor. Why do you work yourself up just to hate? >>>> What do you intend to accomplish by being rude just because you have always >>>> been rude but have suppressed it against your good health? >>>> >>>> [Well, Haruiner if your side kick is nice with me, what is stopping you >>>> from being nasty with me.] Olfactor. >>>> Nothing that I can see. I just choose to be nice to you Olfactor. People >>>> have choices you know. >>>> >>>> [As i said to you before, i do not seek, crave or need your friendship, >>>> encouragement, cheer or love. Take them where they are needed or asked for. >>>> I do not need or seek anyones anywhere else approval here or anyone to be >>>> me. And that goes to >>>> friends or family.] Olfactor. >>>> >>>> I am the purveyor of friendship, encouragement, cheer, or love just like >>>> you are the purveyor of names. You know what that means don't you Olfactor? >>>> What have your friends and family done to you Olfactor? I know deep down you >>>> love me Olfactor. You just don't know it yet. I intend to yield you >>>> revelations like you've never had them before. Do you dream Olfactor? >>>> >>>> [And why can't you guys stop lying about anyone trying to dictate to the >>>> flea infested brain of Suntou Mama what to do with his political affiliation >>>> with the UDP.] Olfactor. >>>> >>>> Not anyone. Someone. >>>> flea-infested. >>>> Suntoumana. >>>> >>>> [I only refer to the UDP because since he thinks people like me have >>>> been domicile in the West for years without going home, i just thought since >>>> he so politically savvy and with many qualifications as well as being >>>> endowed with seeing things no ordinary >>>> folk sees, just perhaps the UDP will be better served on the ground.] >>>> Olfactor. >>>> >>>> What does being in the west for years without going home have to do with >>>> UDP. You recall Suntou lives in the west too. The UDP is domiciled in >>>> Gambia. >>>> >>>> [Moreover with his project of exposing Halifa Sallah and PDOIS why are >>>> you Sountou Moofuring wasting in the West Midlands.] Olfactor. >>>> >>>> Aha. Halifa. BuDOIS Sek. >>>> >>>> [Bring it on! Call your back ups. I see you are throwing around >>>> names. You have not seen anything yet from this unwell and tormented soul.] >>>> Olfactor. >>>> >>>> I have not seen a hoomang bing get so excited over nothing as you >>>> Olfactor. Are you well??? Bring what on? I think we need to expel you from >>>> here. >>>> >>>> Haruna. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 4:12 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Suntou who is this gentlewoman you keep sharing with us??? Gentle has >>>> left Olfactor years ago. He is now crouchingtiger. Oh BTW Tiger will be >>>> back for the Masters at Augusta National. i so look forward to that. I >>>> have been practicing my putting over the year and my coach Tiger will >>>> help improve that some more. Suntou you're too nice to Olfactor. Might >>>> you now be an Elizabethan like my friend Hamjatta???? Where's that cat >>>> anyway? How's he doing??? >>>> T >>>> >>>> Haruna. >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent: Tue, Mar 23, 2010 6:16 am >>>> Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT >>>> FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE? >>>> >>>> >>>> Haruna, your sense of humour has lighten up this place. I could not >>>> stop laughing aloud. It is good for our soul. I will be requesting old >>>> copies of the economist magazine from the gentleman, I will cancel my >>>> own subscription. >>>> Haruna, in this day and age, when both academic materials and proper >>>> journals can be securely access online, when books are now in portable >>>> computerise (digital form), i wonder why the gentleman is keen to let >>>> us know that he receives the hard copy of the economist? I wonder. Talk >>>> about refusing to march ahead with time. >>>> Good news for the Gunners: JAY-Z want to invest in the club, Spike Lee >>>> is our big fan as well. >>>> >>>> Haruna, I also commend your analysis of the actual case in question, >>>> Justice Njie. As you opined, they knew full well Yahya will never allow >>>> them to do their jobs independently, yet they agree to take the >>>> positions, hence she should face the music. >>>> The accusations are that of financial misappropriate. I also learnt >>>> that, the Nigerians has taken over our legal profession, thanks to the >>>> sack Justice Secretary. >>>> The gentleman's anger is as a result months of disheartening comments >>>> he couldn't bear coming from my end. He has already made up his mind to >>>> insult me, emptying his heart's delight on me. I am happy that, he is >>>> relieve of his burden. >>>> Why get inflamed over Rwanda whilst our stakes are the Gambia. And why >>>> be bothered about what I do with my party of choice? It is fascinating. >>>> It is reported that, Kegame's own government has in it genocidal >>>> maniacs who still boast about their Tutsiness, let him clean up those >>>> sick folks before branding others 'divisionist'. Room for improvement. >>>> The gentleman's quest to get personal is understandable. if it helps >>>> him have a good enough sleep, it is fine by me. Say all you like >>>> against Suntou, i am sure your friends will tap your shoulder for it, >>>> as for me, i will enjoy my green tea and think of another subject. My >>>> old advise is that, stop being rude, calm down and remember that, >>>> people will be disappointed in you for using foul language. >>>> Suntou >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:33 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ok Olfactor. So you say Suntou changed the topic first. And you went >>>> right along with the changed topic. You see what I mean about you >>>> needing help Olfactor? >>>> >>>> I'm just kidding men. Let's chuck this one to a comedy of errors >>>> Olfactor. I promise I got loads of other more significant stuff for >>>> you. Please. I don't know why you're always on edge. I thought that was >>>> Giuseppe, but I swear you're worse than my friend Giuseppe. But for his >>>> unnecessary disdain for Hon. Hamat, theguy is a wonderful fellow. "If >>>> you want to hide from Hamat go to Gambia". Men you guys are experts at >>>> low blows. Even Evian can't top that. What????? >>>> >>>> WHy are you bringing Giuseppe into this discussion. I thought he were >>>> your friend????? Olfactor you really need help. >>>> Haruna. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 9:21 pm >>>> Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT >>>> FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE? >>>> >>>> >>>> Haruiner, >>>> >>>> Low blows will not do! Varify yours first. Didn't your side kick >>>> bring in Kagame into the discussion. >>>> >>>> Mboge >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 2:05 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Ehhh Olfactor, >>>> >>>> I am not your companion. Don't tell me someone changed our discussion >>>> when you were the veritable detractor. And don't tell me you're a man >>>> of your own when we are trying to discern if you're a man first. I am >>>> not your companion. And are you a Pan-African??? >>>> >>>> Haruna. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> >>>> >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 8:28 pm >>>> Subject: Re: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - PRECEDENT >>>> FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE? >>>> >>>> >>>> Haruiner, >>>> >>>> As usual, you've woken up and dittoing has began. Your stupid friend >>>> moonlighting as the political analyst changed a strictly legal >>>> discussion to comparing apples and oranges. There is nothing >>>> comparable between Kagame and a rogue like Jammeh. >>>> >>>> Tell me about what jungle justice i am running away and what havoc did >>>> i participate in to warrant my coming to live in the west. Persona >>>> delinquencies and inadequacies, what load of BS >>>> I am a man of my own and I am not seeking yours or anyones approval >>>> for anything. Talk of trashy and nonesensical self-delusional >>>> importance. >>>> >>>> Mboge >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 1:13 AM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Suntou, >>>> >>>> Thank you for your common sense. The problem with some of these folk is >>>> that they participated in the wrecking of Africa before they fled >>>> jungle justice or they had buyer's remorse once they settled in their >>>> new western homes. And they blame their personal delinquencies and >>>> inadequacies on the west. I say they brush their teeth before they >>>> speak to me about Africa or Africans. How you change a conversation >>>> about law and jurisprudence to a defense of kagame is beyond me. >>>> kagame's person or character was not in question......however you feel >>>> about the man. Extradition requests are between Judicial branches and >>>> nations. Not between Presidents or other idiots. >>>> >>>> Thank you again for your marked sobrieties Suntou. >>>> >>>> Haruna. >>>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Sent: Mon, Mar 22, 2010 6:17 am >>>> Subject: Re: Fw: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - >>>> PRECEDENT FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The gentle man who wishes to make some us look like uncaring Africans, >>>> hence not qualify in advocating anything African should take a good at >>>> himself and his place of domicile. Many a times we read and hear our >>>> Pan-Africanist brothers resident in Europe and America for decades >>>> lecturing us about Euro-American this and that on Africans.. How >>>> self-serving these brothers are. >>>> >>>> If you wish to take the moral high ground on Africa, then do the decent >>>> thing and parachute to the West, East, South or Central Africa, then >>>> try screaming from the rooftop there, hopefully people will pay >>>> attention to the nonsensical out pouring of cheap emotion. Some of this >>>> So call Pan-Africanist hardly ever venture into Africa, yet they feel >>>> singing Pan-Africa enough in making words relevant, give us a break. >>>> The economist Magazine has nothing to lose or gain in the articles some >>>> of its commentators write about Africa. Can we for once see things in >>>> their right context instead fancying around hanging onto our own >>>> baggage of partisan politics. If anyone is educated in the west, you >>>> must without a question read books, be lectured by western professors >>>> and enjoy the western way of live. What moral ground do you have to see >>>> others as less of an African than you are? Below is the Economist >>>> Magazine's article on Kegame and Rwanda. In fact the article >>>> acknowledge the level of financial discipline the government of Kegame >>>> is instituting, yet the other facts cannot be left unspoken about >>>> because one is doing something’s right and other major wrongs. We >>>> should delineate cheap emotion from serious issues >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> http://www.economist.com/world/middle-east/displaystory.cfm?story_id=15622375 >>>> >>>> >>>> Progress and repression in Rwanda >>>> Divisionists beware >>>> President Paul Kagame has improved people’s lives at the expense of >>>> freedom >>>> Mar 4th 2010 | NAIROBI | From The Economist print edition >>>> Kagame, progressive and repressive >>>> THE government of Rwanda is doing a lot of things right. It is pretty >>>> open in its handling of aid money. Most foreign governments and >>>> charities are so impressed by its detailed plans and apparent lack of >>>> corruption that they are funnelling more of their aid directly through >>>> Rwanda’s government. President Paul Kagame says he expects direct >>>> budget support to rise by a quarter this year, to $519m. >>>> The country has recovered valiantly from its year zero in 1994, when >>>> 800,000 Tutsis and moderate Hutus were slaughtered. Its centralised >>>> state is leading the way in economic and technological reform in the >>>> region. It is improving the country’s infrastructure, education and >>>> farming, and seeks to preserve its ecology. It pushes equality for >>>> women, who comprise half the government and parliament. >>>> On the diplomatic front, Mr Kagame has been equally successful. He has >>>> sent troops to help keep the peace in Sudan’s Darfur province and >>>> elsewhere. He has stood up to mighty France, blaming it, as the >>>> region’s then most influential Western power, for failing to prevent >>>> the genocide. And last month the French president, Nicolas Sarkozy, >>>> came to Rwanda and offered something close to an apology. France, he >>>> said, had committed “grave errors of judgment” before, during, and >>>> after the genocide. Questions linger about the role of French special >>>> forces during the killing, as well as the fate of Hutus living in >>>> France whom Rwanda wants extradited on suspicion of involvement in the >>>> genocide. >>>> France, for its part, has not dropped charges against some members of >>>> Mr Kagame’s government who are alleged to have ordered the shooting >>>> down of a French aircraft carrying Rwanda’s then president, Juvénal >>>> Habyarimana, a Hutu; that action triggered the genocide. Yet both >>>> countries now appear more at ease with each other. Days after Mr >>>> Sarkozy’s visit, Mr Habyarimana’s widow, Agathe, was arrested near >>>> Paris (and then freed on bail) for questioning over her alleged role in >>>> the genocide. French businessmen came in Mr Sarkozy’s slipstream, >>>> eyeing minerals and timber in neighbouring Congo, for which Rwanda is a >>>> conduit. “There is no doubt this is a reconciliation,” says a Rwandan >>>> government figure. >>>> Yet awkward question-marks hang over Mr Kagame and his ruling Rwandan >>>> Patriotic Front. The president’s detractors say his party has not owned >>>> up to killing thousands of civilians immediately after the genocide or >>>> to responsibility for causing much bloodshed in Congo, which it invaded >>>> in order to hunt down the génocidaires who had fled there. The >>>> Congolese government, it may be noted, has co-operated with the >>>> Rwandans in their more recent incursions into Congo. >>>> Mr Kagame and his government are stifling political and press freedom >>>> in advance of a presidential election due in August. He is almost >>>> certain to win but evidently he is determined to secure a big majority >>>> to implement his “one Rwanda” policies. Opposition parties have been >>>> forbidden to “use words or facts that defame other politicians”. In >>>> practice, the government can label any criticism against it as >>>> “divisionism”, which entitles it to lock up the offenders. Members of >>>> the opposition say they are spied on and bullied. >>>> It is unclear whether the government will let the Democratic Green >>>> Party, a feisty new opposition group, be registered. If not, the Greens >>>> say they will back another lot, the Socialist Party-Imberakuri, which >>>> should be able to run a presidential candidate. The head of a third >>>> opposition party, the United Democratic Forces-Inkingi, Victoire >>>> Ingabire, says she has been vilified since returning from exile in >>>> January. The government, she says, has encouraged people to assault >>>> her, accusing her of being a génocidaire. This week a former military >>>> intelligence chief, Kayumba Nyamwasa, who was reported to have joined >>>> the Greens, fled Rwanda and is said to be claiming asylum in South >>>> Africa. The government says he is wanted on criminal charges—presumably >>>> divisionism. >>>> End. >>>> Going back to our own dictators corridors, What is it that his >>>> supporter are fuming against us about? They are saying, the man is a >>>> dictator of development and that he is fighting against corruption. He >>>> has given women more power and rights. His Vice-President is a woman. >>>> At some point in his government, there were more women in his >>>> government as Ministers than the previous administration. All that the >>>> gentleman is promoting Kegame for, Yahya Jammeh was once hail with >>>> those same things. >>>> Should there be any reason for the cubing of civil rights and plurality >>>> of views? >>>> Is Kegame himself innocent of pumping tribal issues in politics? In >>>> fact, Kegame's men in the army including the high ranking female >>>> officer play the card more than many others. Check their own Google >>>> images Mr Gentleman. I have seen images of the Rwandan army's latest >>>> incursion of Congo, the close senior officers bragging about their >>>> prejudicial influences. These things aren’t as simple as the gentleman >>>> is making it out to be. >>>> Nothing should compromise tolerant co-existence, and the opposition >>>> views is a key part to ensuring the population is represented at all >>>> levels. Kegame's propaganda alone shouldn't be listened to at the >>>> expense of others. He should be commended for lots of things, but he >>>> also needs to understand that framing words against his opponent is not >>>> healthy for the future stability of the country. Some of us are less of >>>> a Pan-African, however, we know the working of a genuine democracy. >>>> Advocates of Europeanism live in Europe. let our Pan-African folks >>>> migrate to Africa, instead of crying wolf in western towns and cities. >>>> Let not your bias of folks make you blind to their views. Stop been >>>> haste over public issues. Take a deep breath and read the material >>>> before jumping to conclusion. >>>> LJ, thanks for your sober and intelligent analysis always. Long may we >>>> have many non-partisan like you. Speaking the facts regardless of who >>>> it come from. Saddly, folks here seems to look at names, party >>>> afilliation, some ignoble little gangs before saying anything >>>> tangible. You have shown to be above such petty mantra. >>>> Suntou >>>> >>>> Suntou >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:28 PM, Lamin Darbo >>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Mboge >>>> >>>> You are absolutely right that "Four men accused of taking part in the >>>> 1994 Rwandan genocide win their High Court battle against >>>> extradition" was "strictly premised on the significance of the Legal >>>> precedence it sets for 'fugitives' claiming to be escaping >>>> persecution". Specifically, I was thinking about Justice Safiatou Njie >>>> (Justice Njie) and whether The Gambia Government is likely to succeed >>>> in having her extradited by the UK. >>>> >>>> Although her alleged crimes are not political, the whole mechanism of >>>> Gambian justice is heavily entangled in political calculations. She is >>>> not likely to get a fair trial, and as a requirement of Article 6 of >>>> the European Convention of Human Rights (ECHR), now statutorily >>>> incorporated into UK law by the Human Rights Act 1998 (HRA 1998), her >>>> chance of eluding extradition is looking good. >>>> >>>> Even as the Rwandan decision is a brilliant exemplification of the rule >>>> of law, I have to agree with you that the High Court decision was a >>>> difficult one on moral grounds. I am unsure why Rwanda did not seek >>>> their extradition for onward delivery to the International Criminal >>>> Tribunal Rwanda (ICTR), based in the Tanzanian city of Arusha. >>>> >>>> For Rwanda, it should not matter where these alleged criminals are >>>> prosecuted. The evidence is suggestive of some involvement by all four >>>> in the '94 genocide. In that case, common sense would dictate that they >>>> be prosecuted for their alleged crimes, and where found legally >>>> culpable, adequately punished. >>>> >>>> Undoubtedly, the political arm of government was keen to have them >>>> extradited, but the Judiciary blocked that wish on the explicit command >>>> of both European, and UK law. >>>> Stated differently, the High Court probably hated the outcome, but >>>> there was a clear obligation to implement the law as it is. You are >>>> right that under other circumstances, these laws can work quite well >>>> for "genuine asylum seekers". This particular decision was nevertheless >>>> quite agonising. >>>> >>>> As to Kagame, I defer to your expertise on the man, and his vision. >>>> What he must do, and this sooner than he may prefer, is to create an >>>> environment that allows his vision to incrementally mature even as he >>>> himself no longer leads Rwanda. No one person can fully develop a >>>> country, and in my view, this means that every African leader, and, >>>> or, ruler, must come to terms with his/her own mortality. Only then >>>> will a mighty continent actualise its great potential by making use of >>>> the major part of the talent at its disposal. >>>> >>>> Many thanks for a fine response, and advocacy. >>>> >>>> Do you think the Gambia's extradition request regarding Justice Njie >>>> should succeed? >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> LJDarbo >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Sun, 21/3/10, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> >>>> Subject: Re: Fw: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case - >>>> PRECEDENT FOR FORMER HIGH COURT JUDGE SAFIATOU NJIE? >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Date: Sunday, 21 March, 2010, 17:38 >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> LJD, >>>> >>>> I guess your sharing the judgement on the Rwandans by the High Court of >>>> the UK was strictly premised on the significance of the Legal >>>> precedence it sets for 'fugitives' claiming to be escaping >>>> persecution. I hope it is not presumptuous of me that you had in mind >>>> the Gambian female judicial employee currently in the UK apparently >>>> running away from Gambian justice a la Jammeh when you >>>> shared the ruling. I assume that it is no rocket science that this >>>> ruling will provide protection for the corrupt criminals, genocidaires >>>> and their apologists from being brought to justice where it matters ie >>>> where their alleged crimes were committed. >>>> >>>> It seems the so-called High Court Judges are more concerned with the >>>> human rights of vile genocidaires than those genuine asylum seekers >>>> whose fear of being killed and tortured in their homeland is >>>> consistently ignored and questioned and in some instances ridiculed by >>>> Western media pandering to the right-wing politics of the "other" >>>> coming to take our jobs and scrounging on our generous welfare >>>> systems. Im no lawyer but i hope this ruling also can be useful to >>>> genuine asylum seekers. >>>> >>>> >>>> Reading a response to the article you shared by our >>>> "descerner extraordinaire on this forum" comparing our criminal outfit >>>> headed by a deranged buffoon in the person of SHEPAD Jammeh gave >>>> me zits as well as being squirmish for a while. >>>> >>>> The realities of Gambia and Rwanda are markedly different. Kagame and >>>> Jammeh are poles apart. Kagame is a smart and patriotic leader, a >>>> visionary engaged in healing a traumatized people, one fighting a good >>>> fight in ushering in a new nation based on functioning >>>> institutions. The howling on this divisionism by the Economist is in my >>>> view an irrelevant unworthy distraction. Kagame should take no advise >>>> or lecturing from a rabidly anti-African magazine that once ran a >>>> feature cover story by Richard Dowden on Africa: The Hopeless >>>> Continent. It may be true that many an African country is marred by >>>> hunger, conflict and strife yet i have no doubt that if anything the >>>> African peoples are mostly hopeful and optimistic about the future. >>>> This may be sometimes wrongly attributed to fatalism. >>>> >>>> Of course there still remains a lot to be done in terms of democracy >>>> and human rights in Rwanda but one must acknowledge the giant strides >>>> already achieved in relation to these ideals. It is work in >>>> progress that is being managed very well under extremely difficult >>>> circumstances. Rwanda under Kagame boast one of the most enlightened >>>> gender equality legislatures in the world. And this goes beyond just >>>> symbolic balancing of the sexes in terms of representation (given that >>>> 33% of the Rwandan Parliament is female) in politics. Women compete >>>> and participate in all sectors of Rwanda society. There is evidence of >>>> substantive and particapatory democracy in everyday life of the >>>> ordinary Rwandan. The economy in Rwanda is booming, civil society is >>>> being built and their advocacy left, right and centre permeates in and >>>> at all levels of society. Under Kagame's Rwanda a state by all >>>> standards that failed, has emerged way ahead of many African >>>> countries in terms of health care access to its denizens. There is >>>> national health insurance for virtually all Rwandans. With Rwanda now >>>> on the right path to development and substantive participatory >>>> democracy i join the hoard of admirers wishing the Kagame juggernaut to >>>> keep steaming ahead. I do also hope that the juggernaut also destroys >>>> and annihilate all the negative forces trying to block it especially >>>> those coated in ethnicity. Ethnicity is important but not to the >>>> detriment of building a prosperous Rwandan nation that concerns herself >>>> with providing peace, prosperity and progress to its people. >>>> >>>> There exists a genuine concern by those trying to deny the horrid >>>> genocide that took place in 1994. Politicians such as Victoire Ingabire >>>> Umuhoza trying to play on ethnic sentiments must be reigned in. This >>>> does not mean that people should be denied the right to associate >>>> with the ethnic skirt they want to wear as long as it is not to villify >>>> or create schisms between and among their brethren and sisters. >>>> Afterall the Tutsi and Hutu are from the same family of Bantu-speaking >>>> peoples. But if not for a sad historical constructionism perpetrated >>>> by colonialists based on banal concepts such as >>>> the Hamitic Hypothesis , the Tutsi-Hutu dichotomous relationship might >>>> have been avoided. I shall not suffer the esteem lot of this forum on >>>> the nitty-gritty of this racist hypothesis which helped in the pogroms >>>> of the Tutusis in 1959 and the genocide of 1994. >>>> >>>> >>>> We have seen the shenanigans of France and some other northern >>>> governments trying to stifle the progress and development of Rwanda >>>> since the RPF came into power. I will have Kagame any day as my leader >>>> compared to the rogues we have splattered across our wounded continent >>>> irresponsibly abusing the noble ideals of democracy and human rights. >>>> >>>> Best, >>>> >>>> Mboge >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:56 AM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> >>>> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> LJ, reading the economies Magazine edition of last week, i can see >>>> similar tactics in the arena of suppression of opposition views in >>>> Rwanda to that our own mad man. Kegame's government invented a >>>> dangerous term 'divisionist'. This term is label against opponents of >>>> the government with the country's sad past. The genocidal past was >>>> trigger by tribal sentiment, hence the divisionist concept. >>>> It is interesting how our guys invent this sinister strategies to >>>> suppress alternative views. Key members of the opposition are regularly >>>> accused of being guilty of genocide, a tack one is unable to free >>>> himself from. >>>> Suntou >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Fri, Mar 19, 2010 at 12:18 AM, Lamin Darbo >>>> <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> --- On Fri, 19/3/10, LJD <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> From: LJD <[log in to unmask]> >>>> Subject: BBC E-mail: Rwanda accused win UK court case >>>> To: [log in to unmask] >>>> Date: Friday, 19 March, 2010, 0:08 >>>> >>>> >>>> LJD saw this story on the BBC News website and thought you >>>> should see it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ** Rwanda accused win UK court case ** >>>> Four men accused of taking part in the 1994 Rwandan genocide win their >>>> High Court battle against extradition >>>> < http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/em/fr/-/1/hi/uk/7989534.stm > >>>> >>>> >>>> ** BBC Daily E-mail ** >>>> Choose the news and sport headlines you want - when you want them, all >>>> in one daily e-mail >>>> < http://www.bbc.co.uk/email > >>>> >>>> >>>> ** Disclaimer ** >>>> The BBC is not responsible for the content of this e-mail, and anything >>>> written in this e-mail does not necessarily reflect the BBC's views or >>>> opinions. 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