Did I not tell you NOT to speak here until you bring us Forovda's take on injustice to Femi? Since when did Easter, Christmas, and Tabaski restrain Forovda? Bring us Forovda I say. Mining mining tafal, Tohnyaa leka labang. Haruna. Na crase una crase. In a message dated 4/6/2010 1:54:26 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Uncle, i too is sometimes tempted to reconsider my having you as an uncle, reason, is because you seem to have so much energy to put to waste. am glad that Mboge and Joe did not folow you on your petty and wasteful path. You will hear from foroyaa. maybe you did not know our country Gambia - you are not part of it, always have the Monday after easter as a public holiday. --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: PDOIS, the disgruntled losers. They still can't hold ralliies. To: [log in to unmask] Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 2:31 PM Dad who told you Olfactor has other significant matter to attend to? I know you love me but you're pissin me off right about now. Oh BTW, why are you not sending us Forovda? Did they not cover Femi's landmark persecution? Don't speak another word here until you bring us Forovda's take on the matter. Olfactor doesn't need your friendship and amicus. You Toucouleurs always throw your friends under the bus when its convenient. DaarManso forbid I become a friggin Toucouleur. Haruna. If you're not careful, I'll disown your behind. In a message dated 4/5/2010 1:01:34 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Mboge, Please do not accompany my Uncle on his journey he seems desperate and confused and is looking for company to empty his admittedly large mind. Just focus on other important issues not allow him to get you into another endless useless chatter. --- On Mon, 4/5/10, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> wrote: From: Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> Subject: Re: PDOIS, the disgruntled losers. They still can't hold ralliies. To: [log in to unmask] Date: Monday, April 5, 2010, 11:57 AM " I also demand that those who wish to befriend me, if any, always expect me earn that friendship, and hedge the earnings against future yield. Unless of course Olfactor is the prospective friend. We know he's a hard nut to crack. He demands too much. He keeps bellyaching about nothing. For caveat emptor, I have enormous reserve for forgiveness." Haruiner Haruiner, I do not seek your forgiveness or nor your friendship or what have you. Who the hell are you? I need no shit from you or anyone. Talk about bellyaching about nothing. Look who is talking. Stop farting about nothing. Let those who seek your friendship ask your hand, again i do not need shit from you. Get that. Mboge On Mon, Apr 5, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) > wrote: Ndokeh, I will admit your "mediation" took me aback for its content and manner. And the idea is NOT picking a fight with your Kotokeh or other if fight fancies you so. The idea is to pick the fight properly and ensure that the friendship survives the fight or you'll be a permanent dipstick. Me, myself, and I would not pick fights for the sport sakes, certainly not with someone I call a friend and elder. It will have to be egregious conduct or offensive speech and even then, I begin by sharing alternative ideas to derail imminent fight. Free speech is too valuable to expend on disutility. I do not generally suffocate value for sport. That is listlessness. I also will not take offense at your trespasses unless they are malignantly regular. Insinuating that Giuseppe's quest is to depict fakes and unpredictable frauds or other, demonstrates you either did not read Sambo's uncouth and barbaric catwalk or you did not understand it one. And Sambo's acumen in discerning fakes and unpredictable snow is suspect. That then goes to the heart of why I should consider you a friend or my Ndokeh. I do not have permanent friends (I'm like Pakistan in that quality) as you might already have noticed, and we know relatives are inherited, not earned. My friendships have to be earned by the second, the minute, the hour, the day, the month, and the year. And the cycle begins anew in yonder years. This comes from the principle DaarManso shares with me that the quality of a man/woman is the sum total of his/her infinitessimal demarche. cumulative worths. I also demand that those who wish to befriend me, if any, always expect me earn that friendship, and hedge the earnings against future yield. Unless of course Olfactor is the prospective friend. We know he's a hard nut to crack. He demands too much. He keeps bellyaching about nothing. For caveat emptor, I have enormous reserve for forgiveness. Just not for the incorrigible idiot. And one strike for the incorrigible adult. Three strikes for kids before I send them to the mental institution on account of developmental inadequacies. Choose your wives wisely. If you need more than one wife, you're majorly screwed in that department. I will take them back should they be certified as rehabilitable by authority I deem qualified enough. So as you can see, my life is a complicated sentry of regimented cordons. (Talk about being full of it Ndokeh), You will however agree that it makes for comprehensive sport in sociology wouldn't you? So I wouldn't need gratuitous fights to occupy my time. I'm too busy for that. I encourage you replace all that you have learned with what your company with me portends. Or I'll whip your butt. Carolina is my old playground. Don't ever think you're safe there beyond my reach. I don't know about Oslo or Shicago. I'm working on those. We will hear about them shortly. No breaking news. Please. Besides, if I lead a political party, I would not desire Sambo's membership unless he demonstrates he is sober. That could take a little while because he had since 1994 to reconnoitre true north which he may be capable of. He should seek counsel from Obama. A mind is a terrible thing to waste. Allez. Haruna. -----Original Message----- From: [log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) To: [log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) Sent: Sun, Apr 4, 2010 9:33 pm Subject: Re: PDOIS, the disgruntled losers. They still can't hold ralliies. Nakebba: My unreserved apologies. I dare fight with a bigger brother. I am just kidding men. You going too far. Sabarri Nakebba. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ____________________________________ From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) > Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:27:49 EDT To: <[log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) > Subject: Re: PDOIS, the disgruntled losers. They still can't hold ralliies. Ndokeh I think you pick the wrong fight here don't you think? You telling me I'm full of it should be the ultimate pot calling the kettle black. WHy do you find it necessary to fight with your kotokeh??? Over what?? Giuseppe's cluelessness. Read your own notes and reconcile their meaning with your understanding. That ought to be enough. I think you're bored and nothing fancies you than to cause your kotokeh minor anxieties. I encourage you to reconsider. Haruna. In a message dated 4/4/2010 9:19:13 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) writes: I got you Nakebba. Whatever... You full of it men. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ____________________________________ From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) > Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 21:02:38 EDT To: <[log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) > Subject: Re: PDOIS, the disgruntled losers. They still can't hold ralliies. Go eat shit Ndokeh. Too amateurish. Your understanding is wrong. If Giuseppe has a different reasoning for his notes, then you might not be sure of your reasoning on Giuseppe's notes. Is that a fair statement? And when you synthesize your two reasonings, fashion a solution to your problems. The two of you. I don't see where your kebaa is needed. Whaddoyou think? Slow news day hangh! Haruna. In a message dated 4/4/2010 7:20:17 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) writes: Nakebba: From my own understanding, I think brother Joe is trying to depict that he doesn't hangout with fake, or unpredictable folks. You need to win his confidence in order to be trusted, or taken seriously. These are my own interpretations. Joe might have a different reasoning on this. That said, I think you need to reach a truce with Joe. Let focus on the bigger picture. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ____________________________________ From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) > Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 19:10:36 EDT To: <[log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) > Subject: Re: PDOIS, the disgruntled losers. They still can't hold ralliies. Ndokeh, Come back after you edit this counsel will you? Haruna. I don't go to bed with snakes. Politics or no politics. Go drink milk and come back to Ellen. I'll be here. In a message dated 4/4/2010 6:58:28 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) writes: Nakebba: Are you not popping bottles for the Easter? Give Joe a break. He must be busy enjoying his Easter. Politics resumes Monday. Do not interrupt Joe's programs in Chicago. The UDP is a government in waiting. There is no doubt about that. You should get people like Joe on your camp. Don't go down that level to engage in futility exchanges . Reach out to them even if they hate or oppose Ousainou. The problem at hand is beyond politics. It requires sober, and frank reflection. This blame game got to stop if we as a nation want to effect political change. Otherwise, you might end up spending 365 days here at Ellen casting blames against other. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ____________________________________ From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) > Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 18:28:51 EDT To: <[log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) > Subject: Re: PDOIS, the disgruntled losers. They still can't hold ralliies. Sambo, The fact that PDOIS can't hold rallies is not because Yahya bars them from holding rallies, it is because they cannot draw more than a 100 people to any rally. The IGP does not deny PDOIS permits to hold rallies. And they still can't hold a rally. In order to hold pseudo-rallies, they engage in solo fact-finding missions for witch-hunt. Since when does anyone need a bullhorn for a fact-finding mission??? Don't make us laugh. Nobody wants to join PDOIS to fight any battle because PDOIS is not reliable and they are ever-schemin' UDP is the largest opposition party in Gambia. UDP/NRP alliance is all the opposition party unity Gambia needs if the aim is to remove Yahya from the presidency. Why you change Femi Peters' imprisonment to settle intractable scores with UDP is odious. Are you not satisfied with your membership in PDOIS? Might you suggest to them how better to lead you? I don't know if you realize this or not, but where UDP, NRP, or GMC is denied permit to hold rallies, joining PDOIS, which is what you hope for, is akin to suicide. We all know how the solo-factfinding on witches and wizards ended up for you. And you sought relief via the judiciary. I guess you don't have much against lawyers and the judiciary then. Wallai momo nyaamaata iko ibeh bulala PDOIS finkintewol le noma, ilabango teh nyeenyaala. Why Sambo and PDOIS think that a diminished NRP, UDP, GMC are the best avenues for PDOIS cluelessness behoves Gambians. For 20 odd years, they have been on the catwalk, repackaging stale dogmas and ideologies and when they had an opening to lean on others' sobriety, they screwed the opportunity up in NADD. Who wants to be led by PDOIS??????????????????????? or any permutation of it??? PDOIS tried to engineer a marriage of convenience with NDAM and ppp. Wonder how that marriage is going? You guys can't even choose a bride if one fell on your laps. You go about life angry at everyone else but your own inadequacies. You'd think you will learn from 2 decades of mistakes and missteps. But no. Let us destroy Gambia if we can't lead it. Get a life people. Your emergencies do not urgencies constitute for Gambians. To be sure, we are all in a fight. However, PDOIS fights a different existential battle from the rest of Gambia. Haruna. In a message dated 4/4/2010 12:56:53 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) writes: Ndokey, Quole Beh Nyadi? How's law school going for you? I hope you have tagged some more titles to your LLB Honors. Good! Please do update us on how you doing. Yes, let Ousainou appeal, Femi will really appreciate it until Yaya lets him out. I swear if Gambians expect to be free from Yaya by your mediocrity then we have a long date with destiny. If Gambians were in doubt, you have helped them to bring closure to their dilemma. It now makes sense why when Yaya was poisoning Gambians you folks saw it fit to issue a pamphlet on witchcraft. I would have hoped that after a decade you folks would have learned something, but Naaaah! You have one and only one game plan - We are the Biggest Opposition Party. Now, Yaya took you on your bluff and what have you to offer - spend time spacing. Remember, Ousainou and Hamat are all you need to sweep the polls. Before you sweep the polls how about first holding a bullhorn for two hours succefully. If you cannot defend your very selves, you think the average Gambian on the ground will be foolish to waste their time with you? This is just a trial run. There is more embarrassment on the way. Ousainou will be nabbed by Yaya to push the envelop further and we will see the one-two of Ousainou and Hamat to finish Yaya. No wonder why Shingle, Rambo and others that suffe red under Yaya are quiet. They may have reached the conclusion that their association is futile and their sacrifices is in vein. After all that time in jail what is the use? This arrest is telling Gambians on the ground that they can nab Femi Peters just as they could nab a dock worker, and ain't nothing gonna happen. Then why would people support you if they are just as vulnerable as the UDP Party as a whole? Anyway, by all means appeal. You can also repeal in the process. After 15 years, you still don' have an idea what is around you, and Gambians are supposed to continue to indulge you in your joke? Get out of here! Joe ____________________________________ Date: Sun, 4 Apr 2010 02:12:01 +0100 From: [log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) Subject: Re: Femi Is getting ready to go to Prison for 1year and fine of D10,000 To: [log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) Joe Saangbuda Old man you talk like a man who left his head behind. How can you get so excited that you speak like a drunkard. Who told you the UDP is paralyzed by the sentencing of Mr Peters? You surely don't know the determination of our party. If you wish to express your excitement to the news of a senior UDP member being sent to prison, by the Jammeh Kangaroo courts, you might express that than beating the bush about what Darboe ought or ought not to do. Your counsel has never been sought. Old man you are indeed foolish and naive to think that the UDP is paralyzed by the despicable acts of the Jammeh regime against Mr Peters. In fact you failed to realize that even Mr Peters does not want the UDP to be paralyzed by his sentencing. He, just like the rest of us wants to see this fight continues and not cease till we can bring the criminals to justice, who committed crimes against our falling soldiers. Old man, the UDP is not an individual but a party as you seemed to have misconceived; and you seemed to have shared that retarded mindset with the APRC Kangaroo Magistrate Kayode. The UDP will remain a force even if Mr Peters had been sentenced to death or Lawyer Ousainou Darboe is murdered by the Jammeh thugs. The UDP since its inception in 1996, had been subjected to all forms of persecution by the Jammeh regime. The UDP supporters have been tortured to death, fired from their jobs, some still missing and some sent to exile; yet the UDP remain a force in the Gambia, in the UK and the US. Though the arrest of Mr Peters cannot be underestimated, as it is a big set back to the UDP; but its surely does not paralyze the UDP and it is very foolish of you and naive to come to that stupid conclusions that the UDP is now paralyzed. Are you on Jammeh's payrol, Mr Sambou from Casamance. Let me inform you old man the UDP is stronger today than ever before and you must pass that message to your brethren Jammeh. You further baffled me by questioning Lawyer Darboe's wish to appeal against the draconian decision of magistrate Kayode. If Ousainou does not apppeal against Peters' sentencing, what would he do. Take up arms against Jammeh. Less you fail to realise Ousainou is not a rebel leader but a lawyer and politician. Therefore, he will fight against Peters' sentence through the limited legal frameworks existing in the Gambia. If you want war with Jammeh, you can go to Gambia and join a battle with him but don't expect the UDP to start a rebellion for you. Nelson Mandela won his freedom and that of his party and people without waging war against his persecutors. So Mr Sangbuda, save us your rhetoric. This is no time for your nonsense. Nemesis Yanks ____________________________________ Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 08:29:44 +0000 From: [log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) Subject: Re: Femi Is getting ready to go to Prison for 1year and fine of D10,000 To: [log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) Ansu, the title of this thread is: Femi Is getting ready to go to Prison for 1year and fine of D10,000. How did you miss that? Why don't you just be honest and say you are here because you took offense to my take on Ousainou? How the hell am I answerable to you? Look at your whole thread, you have not even mentioned the name Femi Peters once, because of your focus on holding brief for Ousainou. Many have tried your silly tactic and found out it don't work with me. The rest of Gambia is waiting for your dear leader? Today is day three for Femi, while you try to displace your aggression. Am I holding Femi? Look at you folks, all paralyzed. If you folks cannot respond to this test run by Yaya, you think the rest of Gambia will continue to listen to your nonsense? You guys are the biggest and baddest, how come Femi is in jail? This is the stuff Gambians have been telling you folks for the last ten years but you could not see the forest for the tree. All this while you knew the man will be locked up, yet you slept at the switch. No matter how you try, the issue is Femi, Ousainou, and Yaya, and is Femi is locked up which was televised to you folks many moons ago. When a thread reads Joe and Ansu, trust me you do not have to coax me to meet you half way at any level. Right now, it is about Femi Peters only. Joe > Date: Sat, 3 Apr 2010 01:20:53 -0400 > From: [log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) > Subject: Re: Femi Is getting ready to go to Prison for 1year and fine of D10,000 > To: [log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) > > Joe Sambou, > > Here you go again doing what you do best; yak yak yak.... You can talk all the nonsense you can utter here but you still have not addressed the fundamental question I asked of you...what have you done with all your grand tactics up your sleeve and the bravery that only Joe Sambou has? Pleeeeease we are dying to hear you so that if it has any merits perhaps some of us can join you and may be we can make a difference in The Gambia. May be you can lead us deliver Gambians from Jammeh's tyranny. > > You come here everyday pretending to be the best tactician, the best castigator, the best showman, the best citizen, and yet I, for one, have not heard anything tangible coming from you that I can say merits following your example. You make a lot of assumptions in your attacks on others that are outright wrong and sometimes just malicious. > > Joe Sambou, please take a few days and ponder over my question to you and then come back with something more substantive next time instead of railing against others just because you can. > > Ansu > > JoeSambou wrote>>> > > Ansu, I do not have your level of calmness under our current assault by Yaya, and you do not have mine. Thus, do what Ansu is doing and let Joe do what Joe is doing. What is sacrilegious about calling a spade just that? I do not intend for a coward to lead me and I will say it loud and clear. None asked anyone to be a politician. What talk is cheap? It is apparent that you and I do not have the same level of anxiety regarding what is happening in the Gambia. I also perfectly do under that you are not here to address my Cheap Talk, but are irritated by my explosion on the time waster that Ousainou Darboe is manifesting to be. I know for a fact that you will not be this cool like a pack of Camels if someone close to you was whisked. I do not need to know anyone personally to be this outraged. Since when do I ever speak for you? Ansu, I am not in the mood to join you in this Maslaa nonsense and you do not have to bother with anything I say, deal? If not, I say use your delete key often because you will hear my mind and not Ansu's, if you read me. Why do you think the UDP cadre are quiet? They know that their leadership is paralyzing them and it is about time folks muster the courage to speak up. The gatekeepers of the opposition are suffocating Gambians. > > > Ansu, now that we reached an understanding, please let me exercise my rights as a citizen. Why the hell did Ousainou as a party leader defend Femi? Ousainou knew that whether he does or do not defend Femi, the outcome will be the same. He knew exactly what he is doing. Now that the rubber met the cement and Femi is languishing in jail, Ousainou the politician is hiding behind Ousainou the Lawyer and cannot say anything that would address the clear fix that he knew to be the outcome by the frauds he continues to try to defend, the Judiciary. Ousainou knows that the Judiciary and Yaya are one and the same, but try asking Ousainou his opinion about the Judiciary and you see him foam all over the place without saying anything. Enough of this nonsense. It is simple folks, Ousainou cannot continue to carry on with this pretext. You are not the Lawer for the opposition but a leader of an opposition party. Thus, you need to quit this business of speaking as a Lawyer at all times while all around you are being whisked to jail. How come Ousainou can never say what Femi said or did? Shingle, Rambo, et al went to jail not because they were alter boys for Yaya. It is only in the Gambia do you see the opposition rank a file whisked to jail while the party leader shuffles papers for their appeal, when they know they are wasting their time. If the rest of the world could not get Chief Manneh out, what is Ousainou thinking that his GRAND APPEAL is the thing we need? It is like the cart pulling the horse. No, it is Tchangaria that is whisked to jail not his driver, if you catch my drift. I am not telling the UDP how to conduct their business, but just in case they think folks are not aware, your leadership is lending a hand to what is happening in the Gambia. If Femi can be railroaded, what chance does the average Gambian have without the backing of a political party? > > > Joe > > > > > > Date: Fri, 2 Apr 2010 16:34:15 -0400 > > From: [log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) > > Subject: Re: Femi Is getting ready to go to Prison for 1year and fine of D10,000 > > To: [log in to unmask] (http:[log in to unmask]) > > > > Joe Sambou, > > > > What I am talking about is your cheap talk about confronting Jammeh and calling those you consider not "tough enough" against Jammeh as cowards. I asked you to be one of the brave ones and head to Gambia to lead just a civil disobedience against Jammeh. You did not address this issue but just continued your usual diatribe against others. What have you done yourself? > > > > I am not defending lawyer Darboe or Halifa or any other leaders for their tactics or lack thereof. Believe it or not but I agree with some of your assessments about the futility of some of their tactics against the regime. I am just observing your behavior on this forum and I urge you to take stock of it and I am sure you can do better. If you can try to be a bit more constructive in your criticisms may be you can be taken more seriously. I know you have opinions and so do we all. But, you think yours is the best approach everytime and anything else is worthless. I am not sure how long you have been whaling against Jammeh now but I what I think is right, don't you think you should have done something about him by now? 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