Rashidiki, I will give you a long rope to hang yourself.  Just remember to be the clown when I see you in Atlanta.  How's the GDP?  I thought by now you will give the UDP $50,000 to take care of the Peters family.  Rone, I have a question I meant to ask you, have you or your family ever engaged in bootlegging liquor in Libya?  Thanks for your help.

Joe 


Date: Fri, 23 Apr 2010 13:48:57 -0400
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Foroyaa Editorial: The Gambian Opposition-The Punching Bag of The Gambian...
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[In a message dated 4/22/2010 2:48:29 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Lamin, I am scratching my head and more surprised that this editorial is from Foroyaa.] Sambo.
 
I bet the scratching makes a lot of noise doesn't it Joe. I will share some ideas here with you even as you seem perturbed by Forovda's editorial. 
 
["What is missing in the Diaspora, are objective patriots who are willing to direct their energies and resources to strengthen parties of their choice or help to set up one. Opposition bashing will not lead us anywhere other than the road to political apathy. Only those who do not want a better Gambia would engage in such a trivial affair." Foroyaa.
If I did not know this came from Foroyaa, I would have jumped on Yaya as the author.  Objective patriots, eh!  Those who do not want a better Gambia, eh!  Political apathy is alraedy in the Gambia and you cannot accuse diasporans for that.  Remember, we are not on the ground, you are.] Sambo.
 
Joe, you remmember you shared with us that you can speak your mind and other can speak his/her mind right? Well the author of this editorial was speaking his/her mind. Objective patriots are not necessarily those who do not want a better Gambia. You will remmember that Yahya shared that he wanted a better Gambia and that all he is doing is for a better Gambia. What the author is sharing with readers is that patriots can come in all colours, shapes, and sizes. They can be objective, subjective, and counterproductive. And that may not necessarily be wilful on their part. A paucity of understandings and proficiency of method could be to blame. So this author is not saying you as a diasporan are not patriotic. You could be patriotic for the wrong reason....Self-interest.
 
["We therefore recommend that those who do not select to support a political party or form one if they are dissatisfied with all have no right to criticize those who are making effort to make sure that the Nation is govern according to the will of the people or offer themselves as alternatives." Foroyaa. Opposite of Jongyaa.
Do citizens have rights to participate in the affairs of their country?  If that is so, why does the author believe that folks should only criticize if they are willing to join or form a party?  If the party leaders where minding their business selling mangoes we would not be talking about them as I write.  Thus, you do not stand to be counted and then when you are taken to task, you resort to telling folks to form their own.  No, you stood up to lead, thus you shall be told when we have something to say.] Sambo.
 
Joe, citizens have a right enshrined in the constitution to participate in the affairs of their country. The editorial does not say that citizens should only criticise if and when they join or form a party. The editorial begins by RECOMMENDING that those who have not chosen to support or form a party of their own, and are dissatisfied with those who have chosen to support or form a party of their own, HAVE NO RIGHT, you UNDERSTAND, HAVE NO RIGHT, to gratuitously SLANDER or MALIGN their fellow citizens unless those fellow citizens have comitted a crime against the nation or their fellow citizens. I know you're stoopid but I think you can appreciate what the editorial is saying. Remmember you do not have a RIGHT to offend your fellow citizen. You DO HAVE a RIGHT, to PARTICIPATE, in the ware of your nation. Especially in the good governance of your nation if you are a citizen of that nation. This means that since your fellow citizens in the opposition have committed no crime against you or the nation, and are not governing your nation one way or the other, if you cannot assist them or offer helpful ideas to them, YOU MAY NOT INSULT, SLANDER, or Malign them. Do you get it?
 
[Can the author tell us how they are making sure the Nation is govern according to the will of the people?] Sambo.
 
That is the purview of the author just as how you are making sure your nation is governed according to your will is your purview. Remmember a RIGHT is not a requirement. Maybe the English here is troublesome for you. The right to participate in the ware of your nation is a positive one. So for all we care, you could be taking a dump all day everyday and not do anything for your nation but YOUR RIGHT TO ASSIST or participate in the nation's growth and health is sacrosanct....Simply by being a citizen of that nation. So the author does not owe you or anyone else any further explanation as to how they are participating in the ware of their nation.
 
[The last I checked, Femi Peters is still in jail, just like countless others, so, where is the ensuring?] Sambo.
 
There you go again bandying an aggrieved man's name around for your own idiocy. Did the author place Femi in Jail??? And unlike you, they are not celebrating the fact that Femi is in jail. What you call your frustration at nothing being done is high terpitude and your small mind thinks it is showing solidarity with Femi.
 
[The party leaders themselves cannot protect themselves from Yaya, thus, who are we kidding?] Sambo.
 
Who do they need to kid Joe. If the party leaders cannot protect themselves against Yahya's gratuitous crimes, does that give you any solace Joe???? What a sick freak.
 
[Since when is suggesting for one to protecting themselves against tyranny a crime?] Sambo.
 
That has never been a crime. In fact that could be regarded as patriotism. You would afterall be SUGGESTING that your fellow citizen protect him/herself against tyranny. Even if you aid and abet that tyranny.
 
[I hope the expectation from the author is not for a subservient relationship between the opposition leaders and diasporans supporting the opposition.] Sambo.
 
NO. Read the editorial again. It is proposing value-partnership if the opposition leaders and the diasporans are trained on similar ambition. No subservience preached or implied here. What a charlatan. A Texarcana churchman once said "There is no greater potential for destruction than a group of idle semi-literates.
 
[We will listen when you speak, but the same is required of you when we speak.] Sambo.
 
NO No no. No one is asking you to listen when they speak Joe. And you cannot require anyone to listen when you speak??? Do you not understand that basic principle of communion? Do you go to church Joe? Next time you're there, seek guidance from the priest.
 
[Anything short of that would be unacceptable.] Sambo.
 
And the idiot plies on. Running over everyone in his sorry path.
 
Haruna.

Date: Wed, 21 Apr 2010 23:51:03 +0000
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: Foroyaa Editorial: The Gambian Opposition-The Punching Bag of The Gambian Diaspora
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An incredible editorial!

--- On Wed, 21/4/10, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]>
Subject: Foroyaa Editorial: The Gambian Opposition-The Punching Bag of The Gambian Diaspora
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Date: Wednesday, 21 April, 2010, 11:40

The Gambian Opposition-The Punching Bag of The Gambian Diaspora
 
 
The Leaders of the APRC must wear a smile every day as they read many on line and local papers on the state of the opposition in the Gambia. Some claim that they are toothless bulldogs. Others claim that they are preparing for failure in 2011. Some argue that the opposition is not worth following until they engage the Government.
 
Foroyaa therefore consider it in the public interest to do a review of the situation of the opposition in the Gambia.
 
First and foremost, we have realized that a political party is as powerful as its number of members and supporters or its capacity to control state power. Our evaluation of nominations of Presidential Candidates reveals that none of the political parties ever had up to 20000 persons endorsing their nomination papers. This simply means that no political party in the Gambia has up to 20000 members. In fact, discussion with some informed executive members of parties confirm that many members of parties expect something from the leaders instead of paying membership fees. Hence, many political parties depend on patrons instead of membership dues to sustain their activities. Many of those in the Diaspora who make contribution see it as helping individuals in parties to achieve position of National leadership instead of fulfilling a National duty. Many opposition parties are therefore unable to build a base among the people. Foroyaa would like to come to the defence of such parties by emphasizing with all the emphasis it can command that those who criticize such parties but are unwilling to contribute a dime to their well being are sheer hypocrites. They have transformed the opposition parties into punching bags as a means of covering up their own political impotency and apathy. We therefore recommend that those who do not select to support a political party or form one if they are dissatisfied with all have no right to criticize those who are making effort to make sure that the Nation is govern according to the will of the people or offer themselves as alternatives. Those who are not making any effort to be on the ground to defend the interest of the people but are just criticising citizens who have the same obligation as they do are responsible for the current predicament of the Gambia. They are in fact the problem of the Gambia. They frustrate the little or big efforts others are making and thus sow the seed of political apathy.
 
Political parties may have few members but could have many supporters. In short, more people turn out to vote for a candidate than the number of the members of his or her party. Foroyaa does not have to quote the results of elections since the 2006 Presidential elections to confirm that political apathy is not only affecting the opposition but also the APRC. Hence, many people are not coming out to vote for the parties. The challenge is for existing parties to develop new ways to win the hearts and minds of the people or new parties which could do so to emerge. The task of Gambians who are not helping political parties to find new ways or create parties to replace them is to appreciate the efforts of those who are at least putting their energies and monies where their hearts are.
 
This is no time for opposition bashing. These are times to find solutions to shortcomings.
Governments are not only engaged by political parties. They are engaged by the whole citizenry who are all stake holders. How many Gambians in the Diaspora attend programmes organised by political parties? Very few. However, they turn up by the hundreds to attend social programmes. It is best to use such social programmes to get them to discuss the future of their country.
 
There is no doubt that the Government is being engaged at all corners. Any body who reads Foroyaa daily cannot fail to see that the Government is being engaged in all areas. Detentions without trial are being exposed, Seccos (ground nut buying centres) were monitored during the trade season which yielded positive results by engaging the marketing agencies, rural infrastructure and services are being monitored, the economy is being analysed and all civil, social, economic, political and cultural factors impeding development are being exposed and combated. What is missing in the Diaspora, are objective patriots who are willing to direct their energies and resources to strengthen parties of their choice or help to set up one. Opposition bashing will not lead us anywhere other than the road to political apathy. Only those who do not want a better Gambia would engage in such a trivial affair.

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