Matarr
I can still remember vividly the day my uncle narrated the infamous event to me in Sutukonding, Sedia Jatta's heart land. Prior to Sanna Sabally and his thugish army boys tour of the URD now URR, there was some communal unrest in one of the biggest Sarahuleh towns, Gambisara. The trouble in the town was over a Mosque affairs.
Some of our Tablique Jamaat brothers may recall the founder of the movement in the Gambia, may his soul rest in Peace. He is originall from URR and he wanted to build a new mosque to promote the Tablique Jamaat methodology of Dawaah.
The old guards in the town were strongly against the building of that mosque.
Hence the stand-off. I am sorry to add, but there still remain the division of communities into different caste, even in Banjul I am told.
The influential family members, this is according to my uncle, decided to task their slaves, not the old fashion concept here. But slaves non-the-less, to discipline any one they found attempting to work at the new Mosque site.
To resolve this problem, some elders in the whole of Basse and its surrounding towns and villages form a delegation of wise and learned elders.
The delegation was so inclusive, you had--influencial Tucklours, Fulbe Futas, Mandingos, Jahankes, Sarahulehs etc to descend in Gambisara on a burning hot summer day.
In fact, they said the heat was so hot, they have to relocate to the outscart of the town under a big shaded tree.  Among the elders are well verse Imams with their students including my uncle.
To their chagrin, they show a dust coming their way. The four wheel motorcade was none other than, Bairo Sabally.
 
According to them, the chairs they provided for other elders were never used. Sanna sent all the elders under the sun. He place his booted feet in one of the chairs and launch stinking attacks on the elders. At some points, even insulting. Some of this respectable elders resort to hiding their faces.
Sanna after he was satisfied, again load enough dust on the elders and drove away leaving many shaken with disgust.
This is the parts to Sanna we need to also remember. Even to this day, the elders can recall the unfaithful Summer day.
 
Not also foorgetting about the 3am radio broadcast of the killings of Basiru, Dot Faal, Nyang, Sey and others. I recorded Sanna's voice from the radio seed broadcast. He was frantic and menancing. We should never respect killers, under old laws, they should be hanged.
 
Kejau
Again
I can see the rational of your argument. However, Sam Sarr we all know love his name and titles. Hence, to clear his name, he will stop at nothing. Do kejau knows whether his name will soon emerge in the narratives of Sam Sarr. Didn't we all read the account Kejau provided here of Chongan?
Before Sam mention others in his diatribe, I think Chongan should intervene, he should tell Sam, this is between you and me. Leave others out.
We the non-soldiers are brought up in Wannas and environments were, however angry one gets, you do not reveal personal secrets against friends in the public. So if soldiers can fail such small test, God help us.
This is why Chongan most break his silence. he should take on Sam in ways that can bring a good ending to the ugly episode. I will not buy any statement that, I am a respectable fellow. I will not engage in petty squabbles. You are already in it. Stop Sam before he emerge with part four and five. We have seen some writers defending Chongan and believe me, Sam will respond to them should he feel offended.
Suntou

On Thu, May 27, 2010 at 9:27 AM, Matarr sallah <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Suntou
I concur. Sanna was the worst, and very heartless amongst them all. I tried to read some of his writings where he is quoting from the quran and the bible and it really make me sick. During his time in office he was more feared by the people than Yaya himself. Honestly it was good that Yaya put him away.


Lamtoroh
 
 
The slower vengeance ripens, the sweeter when plucked



 
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 12:50:50 +0100
Subject: Re: [>-<] Thoughts on the "Disagreement" and "Expose" of Chongan and his book
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"Personally, I have quite a lot of respect and regard for all three of them, but with what I am reading, I am beginning to review that.
To all of them, I say, Ali Sabari, Munj-len, Munye." DA Jawo
 
I am quiet baffled by the statementt from the distinguish veteran journalist D.A. How can you respect an alleged murderer like Sanna Sabally? Are we missing something here folks?
D.A who is well known for his strong condemnation of the APRC government and their human rights violation, can separate the actions of a man who during his short tenure terrorises more Gambian than any other apart Jammeh and Edward.
D.A should explain why he respect Sanna Sabbaly, if not he will be giving out mix messages to the younger readership.
Suntou

On Wed, May 26, 2010 at 9:59 AM, demba jawo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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I quite entirely agree with Ginny, I think this is getting out of hand and a shame to hear people we respect and admire behave in such an immature manner. She is quite right that if indeed Chongan misrepresented anyone of them, there is a much more civilized manner of responding than unleashing such defamatory tirades, which not only affect Chongan's reputation, but also his family and and loved ones.
We certainly do not expect such childish behaviour from people who were once leaders of our country and may even be aspiring to become our leaders once again. They are definitely not behaving with leadership characteristics. We expect much more mature behaviour from them than using abusive language in a public forum.
Personally, I have quite a lot of respect and regard for all three of them, but with what I am reading, I am beginning to review that.
To all of them, I say, Ali Sabari, Munj-len, Munye.

Demba

--- On Tue, 25/5/10, Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Ginny Quick <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: [>-<] Thoughts on the "Disagreement" and "Expose" of Chongan and his book
> Date: Tuesday, 25 May, 2010, 21:07
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> Greetings all, I have some thoughts/questions/observations
> regarding the "disagreement" between Ebrima Chongan (or more
> specifically his book), and Sana Sabally and Samsudeen
> Sarr.
>
> Let me start off by saying that I could be wrong, I've not
> read much into this issue except for glancing through my RSS
> reader (The Gambia Echo and the Freedom Newspaper both have
> rss feeds so those are the Gambian news sites I tend to
> follow the most, and if other Gambian news sites have rss
> feeds, let me know so I can add them), as well as following
> some of the postings on Gambia Post/L.  I say this to
> say that I've just given a cursory look at the reactions to
> Chongan and his book and I have to say that on the whole
> I've been extremely disappointed.
>
> I mean, why can't people just disagree maturely with him,
> if he misrepresented someone in his book, or got some facts
> wrong, etc., then why not just argue on the merits of
> that?  Instead, I'm treated to headlines screaming of
> Chongan supposedly "deficating in his pants" when he was
> questioned by someone or another.  I can't remember who
> that "someone" is now.  And my reaction is "Are you
> serious?"  Let's just say for the sake of argument that
> Chongan got some facts wrong or lied in his book about Sana
> Sabally and Samsudeen Sarr, the fact that they'd come with
> headlines such as this (along with the Freedom Newspaper
> whose editor also seems to have some kind of ax to grind
> with Chongan), makes them instead of men who are trying to
> clear their name or right a wrong, instead look like little
> boys on the street corner trying to play the dozens. 
> They look really selfish and immature, and I just personally
> don't take them seriously.
>
> I mean, maybe my memory is serving me wrong but, wasn't it
> Sana Sabally who tortured and possibly killed people, and he
> was right there with Jammeh until of course he fell out of
> favor with him, so where is Sabally now?  What about
> the blood off of his hands?  And where does Samsudeen
> Sarr stand as regards Jammeh, because his stance on the
> dictatorship has seemed a bit murky, to my mind, at
> times.  Let's just be honest and forget any kinda
> "personal dealings" one might have had with Chongan and
> honestly ask ourselves, did Chongan ever support the
> dictatorship of President Jammeh?  Did he ever go
> crawling back to him (Jammeh) asking for forgiveness or a
> place in Jammeh's government?  Did he ever kill,
> torture, etc., anyone?  Did he ever encourage people to
> support Jammeh or go and ask Jammeh for forgiveness, and
> unless there's something in the Freedom Newspaper and Gambia
> Echo "exposes" saying otherwise, the answer, as far as I
> know, is a definite "no".  And perhaps the same can't
> be said for either Sarr or Sabally, which is why, along with
> Pa Nderry,
> you have now seen them launch into the vindictive tirades
> you're now seeing online.
> What I'm thinking is, did Chongan lie in his book?  If
> so, how, why, and in what part of the book?  What did
> he lie about?  Is it possible that he could have, under
> the pressure of being tortured and detained, he could have
> mis-stated some facts?  What do Sarr, Sabally, and to a
> lesser extent, Pa Nderry, et al, have to gain from
> "exposing" Chongan?  What does Chongan supposedly being
> a womanizer (something that we don't know for sure that Pa
> Nderry, Sarr, and Sabally are/were not, and even if Chongan
> was or is such a person, is that not for his wife/family to
> deal with?), or how he interacts with one personally, have
> to do with the truth or veracity of the statements made in
> his book?
>
> It seems to me that Pa Nderry, Sarr, and Sabally (and
> possibly others) just got their feelings hurt and now they
> have to come back with some very immature and vindictive
> tirades.  If you don't like Chongan and you think his
> character faulty stay away from the guy, if you think that
> he lied in his book, write a well-documented, scrupulously
> researched, rebuttal, but please, for the love of all
> things, please don't write about someone "deficating in
> their pants" while I'm trying to eat my breakfast. 
> Mature and reasoned people just don't do that sorta
> thing.  Or at least I didn't think they did
> anyway.  But I could be wrong.  I mean, maybe it's
> a guy thing or something.
>
> I just find it interesting that disagreeing with someone
> purely on the facts/merits of the argument seems so hard for
> some, and not only do they have to disagree with someone,
> they have to bring their mama, cousin, wife and bodily
> functions into it, and goodness knows what else.
>
> Ginny
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