Please people let us not be stagnant by blaming each other for disunity between 
Darboe and Halifa. These people are older than we are and therefore, should know 
how to pave their ways towards unity thereof achieving their leadership 
ambitions. Both of them are well aware of the fact that, without unity come 
2011, they surely will be dwelling in the same status. Besides, there is very 
little percentage of Gambians having access to the GL and most of us are not 
even voting thus we have some parts to play by convincing or introducing our 
people back home to our desired parties. 

When we read or speak with people or of people that have differing opinions, we 
become agitated and angry that they do not agree with us. This agitation is felt 
as mental pain which is a warning device from our Consciousness that we are 
doing something wrong.
 What we are doing wrong is thinking from the false ego, not the balance one 
which is needed in a situation like this. We are allowing this false illusion of 
ME ME ME OR MINE MINE MINE to control our minds and our emotions. We believe 
that these thoughts are” US”, or are representing us while we are deviating from 
Truth. This deviation from Truth is missing the Mark, in other words, we are 
missing the "Bull’s-eye" of Truth and therefore Pain will surely follow. If 
for-example Halifa and Ousainou failed to put their horses together as a result 
of what one said in this forum, they cannot be trusted as leaders because they 
will be dictated on performing their duties by what others saying or doing. 
However, the pain that will be resulted from the outcome of disunity, will not 
only hit their supporters per SE but they “the leaders too” as the saying goes 
like; unite we stand and divided we fail or fall. (Freedom is not arrogance 
Freedom is not self-assertion Freedom is where you feel joy. Without learning 
anything you know everything and having everything you are bound by nothing; 
this is the true nature of a free soul) by Swami Amar Jyoti.  Presented by Edi
I now leave you with this insightful story bellow by AL .
Many years ago I had the experience of helping at a community theatre. I would 
do anything that was needed, from loading the shows in and out in the middle of 
the night to fixing anything at the last minute. I hung lights, ran the lighting 
board and ran the spotlight on occasion.


One time, a pretty famous magician came to town. I got to watch his craft all 
day from back stage and through rehearsals. I was asked to run the spotlight. 
The night of the show I was up in the usual high perch intently focused on the 
action, spotlight in hand. I remember being awed by the fact that I could 
clearly see the sleight of hand from my position above the action. It was 
surreal in itself. I had an "over standing" of the performance art. I could see 
where the coin went and where the handkerchief came from.... I remember 
thinking, "I know that secret. - I saw that before." There were two shows and it 
was even more surreal the second time around. I found myself watching for the 
"trick", judging his abilities and thinking how the audience was being fooled... 
I had the feeling of privilege and fascination to see it happen as it happened 
live.

This magician had spent his life perfecting his craft focused out in the 
direction of the audience. He spent his life creating illusions for a living. 
(What a crazy concept from my point of view now, huh? LOL ) The props nor he had 
any magical abilities - he was a craftsman at what he did, creating illusions. 
But from a different perspective and in the bright light from above, it was 
obvious. The effect he was creating to the audience was believable, entertaining 
and even addicting. The audiences were so caught up in it. I remember going down 
to the lobby after the two shows and listening to the people smiling and 
laughing - each had a different "idea" about how the illusion was created. They 
each had an acceptable solution and shared it with the other. These ideas were 
talked about and concluded to be true even if they were way off. But it worked 
for them and they would probably repeat these false ideas again at work the next 
day or on the phone with friends. The false conclusions were easily made true 
and thus had acceptance and power.

I think you know where I am going with this... We can be so caught up in the 
illusion of the moment. It is so easy to believe. We get sucked right along with 
everybody else and even praise the illusion into reality. What are we 
practicing? To believe the illusion or are we practicing the Presence of God to 
believe the real Truth...

The easy route is to follow the masses along and accomplish nothing really but 
just living a life as part of the audience - we can exist happy or sad, rich or 
poor, with bounty or lack. It doesn't really matter at the end of the show. We 
all eventually have to go home after the show. We all eventually have to come to 
the sacred place of the awareness of what Truly Is. When is a good time to start 
this quiet practice?

This weekend is all about Freedom for hundreds of millions of the audience in 
the greatest experiment of self-government this world has ever seen. We must 
decide if we are going to be part of the audience; or the One that is "Free" of 
effect. Are we the One embracing Light that can see through the illusion to what 
actually Is?

Our perspective of Truth is always in proportion to our commitment to surrender 
the fact that we know something or we can do something even to fool the audience 
and thence ourselves. Can we be that clever? The magician could not fool a 
humble spotlight operator even if he is the best in the world at what he does. 
Be not fooled by accepted appearances. Hold the light of Truth steady and still. 
Never let it go or be moved. The Truth can be seen or felt or heard in the 
Presence of Light, Awareness or Consciousness. Not man's understanding - God's 
Consciousness.  

 




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From: abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]>
To: [log in to unmask]
Sent: Sat, 10 July, 2010 11:02:42
Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Will Darboe give way to Femi Peters? Time will tell

Sister Ginny you will alway be my star for honest opinion. Thanks and what you 
stated below should be echoed...!
Because me thinks that there is a sizable portion of at least the
online Gambian electorate/community who'd rather continue to see
Jammeh in power, with its attendant atrocities and corruption and
mismanagement, than see Darboe or Sallah, etc., ascend to the
Presidency. And I find this to be sad, and that is putting it
extremely mildly! You'd rather divide the opposition by continuing to
peddle the "Darboe is this" or "Darboe is that" etc., all the time
talking about you want a united opposition, when you know darn well
all you are doing is making that goal ever harder to reach.

 
> Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 21:59:14 -0400
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Will Darboe give way to Femi Peters? Time will tell
> To: [log in to unmask]
> 
> Hmmm, wasn't this the same guy (Muhammad Drammeh) who posted something
> about "religious tolerance" a few days back? I'm guessing this
> doesn't extend to the political realm? Listen, no matter how much I
> may dislike Darboe or Halifa or whoever's politics, if voting for them
> as part of a united opposition in 2011 (not that I can vote but let's
> just put that aside for now) means that Jammeh is dislodged from
> power, count me first in line on Election Day!
> 
> However, it seems that some, if not many, do not feel this way. I
> mean, we're now haggling over what did or didn't happen, or who was or
> wasn't invited, to the just concluded UDP Congress. And if we keep
> going the way we're going, we'll be sitting here the morning after
> Election Day, once again pointing fingers, and placing blame, and
> well, doing pretty much the same things we did in 1996, 2001, and
> 2006.
> 
> Accusing people of being tribalist, power-hungry, etc., isn't going to
> do much to make them want to unite with them so stop it please! If
> you don't like Darboe, or Sallah, or Bah, or whoever, you'd at least,
> hopefully, agree with me that if the opposition were to unite, you'd
> at least agree that voting for them and seeing them legitimately
> elected would be preferrable to Jammeh, wouldn't you? Or would you
> not?
> 
> Because me thinks that there is a sizable portion of at least the
> online Gambian electorate/community who'd rather continue to see
> Jammeh in power, with its attendant atrocities and corruption and
> mismanagement, than see Darboe or Sallah, etc., ascend to the
> Presidency. And I find this to be sad, and that is putting it
> extremely mildly! You'd rather divide the opposition by continuing to
> peddle the "Darboe is this" or "Darboe is that" etc., all the time
> talking about you want a united opposition, when you know darn well
> all you are doing is making that goal ever harder to reach.
> 
> Let me put it like this, back in 2008 when Clinton and Obama were
> fighting for the Democratic nomination, everyone knows how ugly it
> got, however, had Clinton emerged the winner and won the Democratic
> nomination instead of Obama, even though I really didn't like the way
> Hillary Clinton ran her campaign, I'd still have voted for her in the
> end, as much as I'd have hated to do so, and you know why? Because
> she would have been better than McCain, and God knows if seeing her in
> office would mean that Sarah Palin would be nowhere near the
> Presidency on November 5th, then I'd have been the first in line on
> the first day of early voting to cast my vote for her.
> 
> And you know what? I have my many differences with Halifa Sallah and
> PDOIS, however, if he were to garner the position of leader of a
> united opposition, and of course assuming that I could vote in a
> Gambian election, which, unless Jammeh gives me a phony voter's card I
> can't at this point, I'd be the first one at my local polling station
> to cast my vote for Sallah. Why? Because it means that Jammeh,
> assuming that he would actually honor the result, would be gone, and
> we could get to the long and arduous business of cleaning up the huge
> mess that Jammeh has made of The Gambia.
> 
> I mean, everyone talked about Darboe being power hungry, etc., but
> wasn't there something in the MOU that said that whoever would be
> elected would only serve a five year term or something? Then what is
> the problem, then assuming that was the case, or would be the case, if
> there were to be a united opposition?
> 
> Part of putting together a united opposition, with disparate parties
> and platforms and outlooks on the ways to get things done, is learning
> to compromise and learning to put your differences aside for the
> common goal that you're working for. And if the various opposition
> parties and their supporters can't learn to do that, then all of this
> talk about united opposition this, and united opposition that, and
> articles on "the way forward", etc., is all just going to be a waste
> of time.
> 
> All right, I've said my piece, am off to relive my high school/college
> years by listening to 80s and 90s and early 00s hip hop and R&B.
> 
> Have a good weekend everyone.
> 
> Ginny
> 
> 
> 
> On 7/9/10, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> >
> > What an idiot and tribal criminal this Dramane. Karim has exposed you
> > further.
> >
> > Haruna.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Muhammed Drammeh <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
> > Sent: Fri, Jul 9, 2010 7:48 pm
> > Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Will Darboe give way to Femi Peters? Time will tell
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you hundred time
> >
> >
> > Muhammad Bai Drammeh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Sat, 10 July, 2010 0:35:00
> > Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Will Darboe give way to Femi Peters? Time will tell
> >
> > shameless you have nothing of substance and the lot you can siay is thank
> > you. Thanking me for what your shameless and naked divisve politc you are
> > peddling.Why are you hiding your hidden agenda. Tell Musa Drammeh he
> > betrayed Gambians! He get what he want from PPP and he want to get from
> > Yahya Jammeh but my warning is that let him be careful. The dictator has no
> > friends. Stop masking of been PDOIS SUPPORTER! You are mirroring issues on
> > tribal card and Gambia is big than tribal /ethnic politic.No wander you are
> > mentally sick and need help!
> >
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:57:15 -0700
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Will Darboe give way to Femi Peters? Time will tell
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> > Thank you
> >
> >
> > Muhammad Bai Drammeh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Fri, 9 July, 2010 23:50:21
> > Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Will Darboe give way to Femi Peters? Time will tell
> >
> > You most be mad and many more like you in my book who said Ousainou Darboe
> > this and Halifa Sallah that. It is what your mindset is Gambia and related
> > matters. For Muhammed Drammeh distraction is more an archive record. Even
> > Ginny Quick sometimes ago caution your silly remarks. Musa Drammeh have been
> > a wolf in a sleep clothing so is his associate CRD Commssioner Touray.
> > Talking to OJJallow during Gambia Coalition of Human Rights UK symposium and
> > what he stated was the they greatest enemies for our struggle. Have you ever
> > share with us or prevail on Musa Drammeh, No! What issues are you talking
> > about. You may surround yourself with Joe Sambou as a PDOIS LOYALIST BUT NOT
> > ME. Muhammed Bai Drammeh what effort did you do join the lots in UK who are
> > working against difference as a barrier? Are you concern or you are left
> > over cyber warrior creating confusion making no difference? Get lost
> > braggard!
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 15:01:25 -0700
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Will Darboe give way to Femi Peters? Time will tell
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> > Issues then you will get my response. Have a good day boy
> >
> >
> > Muhammad Bai Drammeh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Fri, 9 July, 2010 21:53:22
> > Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Will Darboe give way to Femi Peters? Time will tell
> >
> > Get lost and could with your APRC divisive propanganda. I am waiting for
> > your rubbish. You are not real and will continue to expose your mask. Tell
> > Musa Drammeh that time will tell given that betrayed decent citizens like O
> > J Jallow who are resolute in their stand against dictatorial regime of Yahya
> > Jammeh.
> >
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 13:18:43 -0700
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: [>-<] Re: Will Darboe give way to Femi Peters? Time will tell
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> > thanks
> >
> >
> > Muhammad Bai Drammeh
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: abdoukarim sanneh <[log in to unmask]>
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> > Sent: Fri, 9 July, 2010 20:57:54
> > Subject: Re: Will Darboe give way to Femi Peters? Time will tell
> >
> > A silly braggard like Yahya Jammeh and many more like your caliber who
> > mirror political issues in the Gambia on tribal dimension. Your silly narrow
> > vision allow Jammeh to bank on tribal issues. Mandinka this and Jola that
> > tell me Jammeh have cause more harm to his own tribal men. If you have know
> > issues that you raise as a Political enlightenment process why not advice
> > your BROTHER MUSA DRAMMEH WHO SURRENDER HIS SOUL TO THE DEVIL.
> >
> > Date: Fri, 9 Jul 2010 12:41:33 -0700
> > From: [log in to unmask]
> > Subject: Will Darboe give way to Femi Peters? Time will tell
> > To: [log in to unmask]
> >
> >
> >
> > Jammeh is winning the Gambian elections because of Darboe. He keep crying
> > foul that Mandinkas are against. He uses divide and rule to generate hatred
> > towards the Mandinkas. He could not achieve his objective 100% but the the
> > 80% that he achieved was enough to sway the voting in his favour.
> >
> > Darboe has allowed Jammeh to declare himself a demi-god. He ran away from
> > him at a time when he needed to be demystified and challenged. He ran away
> > from him after more than over 100,000 voters voted for him. He also ran away
> > from him even before the votes were counted. This made Jammeh believe that
> > The Gambian people are scared of him and he can do as he like.
> >
> > Everyone in The Gambia is suffering and the suffering have no tribal
> > boundaries. Jammeh is using Darboe's language grouping as the basis of
> > getting a solid support from the rest of the population. Darboe fail to deal
> > with Jammeh with intellectual maturity and political competence. He allowed
> > tribalism and tribalist elements in his party. Darboe engage Jammeh in old
> > type of politics of insults and character assasination rather than issues.
> > Instead of issues, politics of euphoria, tribalism and insults emerge again.
> > Darboe's lack of intellectual character is clear to be seen. He is weak from
> > the start. He was transform from the Bull of Dobo to the Chicken of
> > Senegalese high Commision. Darboe made the biggest mistake of his life for
> > being a political coward. The reputation of the UDP has been tarnished.
> > Darboe's cowardly act entrenched Jammeh's grip on to power.
> >
> > Darboe should apologise to the Gambian electorate who voted for him and
> > resign from party politics. And as a way of saying sorry to the general
> > public, he should engage in charity work and rebuild his reputation.
> >
> > Darboe should allow the brave to handle Jammeh. His presence is a winning
> > machine for Jammeh and thus he should go.
> >
> > Darboe should heed to my very good and free advice.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Muhammad Bai Drammeh
> >
> >
> >
> > 
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