Gentlemen, I understand both Gambia and Germany are signatories to the Rome Statutes and the concensus for the ICC's creation. Jurisdiction may not therefore be secours for the mobile-accused. After the Nuremberg trials, I think it is safe to say Germany has zero tolerance for itinerant criminals. Perhaps the trial of Sabally by the ICC could net other criminals like Yahya and an international warrant for his arrest. Haruna. I will review the enforcement mechanism of ICC warrants later. -----Original Message----- From: Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 4:53 pm Subject: Re: ICC and jurisdictions. Suntou. Thanx Daffeh for this correction. I have a tendency to group all international orgs under the UN. Thank you. It would appear then that ICC would have jurisdiction over Sabally in Germany. Even though the purported crimes were said to have happened in Gambia. Is Gambia a signatory to the Rome Statute? Is Germany a signatory? If a criminal flees to a country that is a signatory, does that not afford the ICC jurisdiction? If an American comits the atrocities that Sabally is alleged to have comitted, he/she would wish the ICC had jurisdiction over them. Thanx again Daffeh for the correction. Haruna. -----Original Message----- From: UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Thu, Jul 22, 2010 3:40 pm Subject: Re: ICC and jurisdictions. Suntou. That is not quite right, Haruna. You would have to be a signatory to the Rome Statute before the ICC can have jurisdiction over matters arising from your country or her citizens. As things stand now, the ICC does not have jurisdiction to try American citizens because the U.S is not a signatory to the Rome Statute, and that is despite being a leading player in international politics and the UN System. I hope this helps. Regards Daffeh On 22 July 2010 19:52, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Suntou, I don't understand what your query is. The international criminal court has jurisdiction over criminals. It doesn't matter where the criminals comit the crimes. That is the whole idea I think. That because national laws are limited as to jurisdiction, criminals have been moving from country to country to avoid prosecution. The United Nations, having understood that this constitutes an attempt to elude justice, set up the ICC to fight crime and criminals. So yes. Any nation that is part of the UN and a signatory to UN conventions on Justice and human rights is a jurisdiction for the ICC. Haruna. ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscr ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤&curr ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤