Just to add, Jamo Jawel in his case said "Madam Mari Jolfel." He would talk about Mari (short for Mariama) going to the market, doing househall chores, respect, etc....Jolfel/jolfoh means the wollof tribe of the Senegambian region. That also is strictly just local proverbs and choice of words usage. It would mean the same if you were to say "deboh Tubako" (white woman), Deboh pullo (Fulani woman), etc...
 
I hope this helps.
 
thanks,
yj


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Subject: [>-<] RE: Mariama
Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 12:36:29 -0500

 
 
It is okay to see things that way as a way of imagination in a way of satisfying your curiosity, and I understand. Juldeh himself is dark in complexion, so it is not provoking or resulting from colonialism. Probably, it is just language expression. For example in English, we say "the black sheep of the family." It doesn't necessarily mean the sheep is black. As you know, it means the bad one among the family. In real life, something has been unfortunate, that is to say "black" has been associated with something negative. That is the case with even renowned philosophers, but it doesn’t apply in this case.
 
I would think it's Juldeh's pure architecture. I know others like Jamo, Baba Maal, etc...all composed songs about "Mariama" in different settings. As the song goes, there is nothing negative in it. “Deboh Tubako” is just a local proverb, just like others would say "dream girl."  It is uttered in clear conscience and matter of fact, a tribute to all women –black, white, brown, etc…etc…Mariama is nicely done.
 
If you have any other questions, feel free to ask.
 
Thanks for your rejoinders both.
 
yj


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Date: Sun, 26 Sep 2010 10:13:12 -0700
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You got it wrong Ginny. Please read it properly!

Muhammad Bai Drammeh


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Subject: Re: Mariama
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Date: Sunday, 26 September, 2010, 18:07

"Light skinned nature" and "white woman"?  Am I reading too much into this?  Because this kinda gave me pause/troubles me?  So would a dark-skinned or "black woman" not be a fitting exhibitor of the other qualities that Juldeh speaks of?  I've just got a lot of thoughts/questions rolling around in my head at the moment, that I can put in a nutshell by saying that colorism rears its ugly head in the most unlikely of places (for me anyway).  And did you say this is a traditional song?  Or is this one that Juldeh wrote?  I mean, to think that skin color is a marker of good moral character, I'm just speechless. 
 
Color don't mean nothin' except what we (and it seems Juldeh too) puts into it. 
 
Ginny
 
 
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