Hey, Thanks and all the best.... Regards Cherno On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 5:12 PM, Bubacarr Sankanu < [log in to unmask]> wrote: > Cherno, > > If a leader is so dear to me, I will surely, loyally and proudly use my > real and correct names in supporting in supporting him/her through all > channels at all times. > > Anyway you know your reasons for using the avatar of "Fankung Fankung > Jammeh" instead of your proud natural name to defend your "dear leader!" > > I can see you are playing the innocent over that girl with your phrase > "whoever she is (LOL)." I am indeed laughing out loud and it makes no sense > for us to elaborate. > > You can have your fun with your "dear leader" and I will enjoy the girl > like gentleman! > > Yes I am having a wonderful time here and I believe same is the case with > you. > > Good luck with your "dear leader" and good luck in battle with opposition! > > Prince B. Sankanu > Bundesrepublik Deutschland > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > Datum: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 16:24:59 -0500 > > Von: Fankung Fankung Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> > > An: [log in to unmask] > > Betreff: Re: Foroyaa News: Talks on Opposition Unity Between Sidia and > Darboe > > > Hi Sir, > > I don't know where to begin.... The girl or party politics....Since the > > girl > > is easier... please go ahead and take her, whoever she is (LOL)... I will > > let you slide with that. In terms of OUR DEAR LEADER, thanks for the > > preaching, warning, etc. I am aware of all that... Hope you having a good > > time? I wish you and your family all the best... > > > > thanks > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 4:15 PM, Bubacarr Sankanu < > > [log in to unmask]> wrote: > > > > > Is this Cherno Omar Kebbeh my former mate at NUSRAT and colleague at > The > > > Point Newspaper? > > > > > > If yes then Cherno I am speechless! Since when did you become the TOWN > > > CRIER of President Jammeh and the APRC? > > > > > > I thought if you chose to service our country you would first and > > foremost > > > try it out as a TECHNOCRAT (Civil Servant) and not as foot soldier of > > party > > > politics. > > > > > > Anyway I recognize your right to political choice and you are free to > > drum > > > up APRC. You are fee to lock horns with the opposition. > > > > > > As a brother and a ex-colleague, I am advising to be very careful. No > > > matter how much you support President Jammeh and the APRC you will NOT > > match > > > FJC (Fatoumatta Jahumpa Ceesay) and Yankuba Touray. They have all been > > used > > > and dumped like toilet papers. > > > > > > Even brilliant young stars who serve diligently without party politics > > are > > > not spared. Look at the case of Mariama Khan. > > > > > > Sorry if you think I am trying to preach you. I am just worried. You > are > > > however an adult and you know what you want. > > > > > > Before I forget, I want to tell you that there is a GIRL that I wanted > > to > > > chase but the moment she told me that you showed interest in her, I > > BACKED > > > OFF to give you the chance. > > > > > > I am Casanova with a strong conscience. If I see a tantalizing lady, I > > do > > > not waste time hunting her but to avoid injustice I try to find out > > first if > > > she is already given or about to be given. > > > > > > That girl is so sweet and should not stay long on the marriage market. > > > > > > I hope you will make use of your chance to reach a definite decision > > over > > > the girl. > > > > > > The next time I speak with her and she tells me that you are not > > > conclusive, I will proceed with my chasing and if things work out I > will > > > harvest her for my harem! > > > > > > But I do not think party politics (APRC) and a woman will be reasons to > > > sour our solid relations. > > > > > > All the best with your work in Gambia. > > > > > > I remain, > > > > > > Prince Bubacarr Sankanu > > > GERMANY > > > > > > http://www.afromediafilmandtv.net/ > > > ************************* > > > -------- Original-Nachricht -------- > > > > Datum: Tue, 7 Dec 2010 14:13:51 -0500 > > > > Von: "C. Omar Kebbeh" <[log in to unmask]> > > > > An: [log in to unmask] > > > > Betreff: Re: Foroyaa News: Talks on Opposition Unity Between Sidia > and > > > Darboe > > > > > > > why? > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > Fankung, > > > > > > > > > > Zip up! > > > > > > > > > > Mboge > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 7:55 PM, C. Omar Kebbeh > > > > <[log in to unmask] > > > > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > >> Hello, > > > > >> Dont waste your times, the Gambian opposition is broken because of > > the > > > > >> leadership. All these is just cheap talk. Gambians love President > > > > Jammeh and > > > > >> will always elect him as president. Are you guys forgetting about > > > 2006? > > > > >> Please tell these groups to come and join the APRC. > > > > >> > > > > >> On Tue, Dec 7, 2010 at 1:38 PM, Haruna Darbo > > > > <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > > > > >> > > > > >>> Modou my friend, I am very busy at this time but will take time > > out > > > to > > > > >>> see if you can educate me on part of your notes that is not an > > > > exclusive > > > > >>> question for JDAM. I saw Rene's amicus and I would share some > > ideas > > > > with > > > > >>> that other Pliny later. I'm all yours for now: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [-----Original Message----- From: Modou Nyang > > > > <[log in to unmask]> > > > > >>> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tue, Dec 7, > 2010 > > > > 5:40 > > > > >>> am Subject: Re: Foroyaa News: Talks on Opposition Unity Between > > > Sidia > > > > and > > > > >>> Darboe. > > > > >>> LJD, Thank you for sharing your thoughts. Every person has his > > or > > > > her > > > > >>> own opinion hence it is not worthwhile to argue with opinions.] > > > Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> It is opinions that characterized the infamous meeting between > > Hons. > > > > >>> Sidia and Ousainou. They gave each other their opinions and were > > > > supposed to > > > > >>> GET BACK TO EACH OTHER. That is the disposition of folk trained > > > toward > > > > a > > > > >>> common ALLIANCE I think. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [The best is to respect them and recognise the wisdom in them if > > > any.] > > > > >>> Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> It is the opinions of the Honorables. It is for them to respect > > those > > > > >>> opinions. We, on the other hand are not beholden to those > opinions > > > nor > > > > hold > > > > >>> a particular regard for them if any. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [If I may want to follow the pattern of your argument and try to > > > > respond > > > > >>> to all that you raised it would mean reducing this whole exercise > > to > > > a > > > > mere > > > > >>> exchange of words.] Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> COnversation is a mere exchange of words until either party acts > > on > > > > those > > > > >>> words. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [Needless to say, if you are left wondering what > > “speculations” > > > > Sidia is > > > > >>> talking about, me Modou Nynag, I am not. Since Sidia’s meeting > > with > > > > Darboe > > > > >>> rumours were spreading in the country regarding the meeting and > > it’s > > > > >>> possible outcome, hence the need to clear the air.] Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I see you find need now to argue speculations (opinions). It is a > > > > tricky > > > > >>> proposition Modou to discount exchange of words and opinions as > > mere > > > > >>> chatter. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [I would want detail of every meeting be made public for everyone > > to > > > > know > > > > >>> what transpired because we have nothing to hide.] Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I wish you to consider that if you pour your heart and soul out > to > > me > > > > >>> today, I still wouldn't know if you have something or nothing to > > hide > > > > Modou. > > > > >>> Think about it. What we intend to hide, we store in > irretrievable > > > > memory. > > > > >>> WHat we intend to share we store in random memory. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [We are faced with a similar situation regarding the NADD > > situation.] > > > > >>> Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> You appear to be re-litigating NADD Modou. Tell me it ain't so. > > Could > > > > it > > > > >>> be that Hon. Halifa transferred negotiating powers to Sidia > (NADD) > > > > because > > > > >>> NADD was to be relitigated ad-infinitum? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [Even a meeting between Sidia and Darboe after Darboe pulled out > > of > > > > NADD > > > > >>> was rumoured as Sidia joining UDP.] Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The ides of NADD!!! Imagine what would happen when you hold a > > primary > > > > >>> among opposition politicians Modou. Under AGENDA 2020. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [So LJD, you have a right to your opinion, but don’t think that > > will > > > > also > > > > >>> stop us from acting the way we feel is right and appropriate.] > > Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The problem then comes alive when each of us ACT on our unique > > > > opinions. > > > > >>> Because we all think we're right and our opinions are > appropriate. > > > > This is > > > > >>> the idea behind conversations and negotiations for commoner > > relief. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [“It is the "primary" question that stands in the way of a > > united > > > > front > > > > >>> in the sense that its architecture appears to rig the outcome in > > > > favour of > > > > >>> Halifa”. > > > > >>> LJD, this is the second time you have said that the primary > aspect > > of > > > > >>> Agenda 2011 is designed to favour Halifa. What makes you say so? > > Are > > > > you > > > > >>> saying that when Halifa is in a ballot to select a single > > candidate > > > to > > > > >>> represent the opposition against others including Darboe it will > > go > > > > his way? > > > > >>> Why and How? You have to answer these questions.] Modou of JDAM. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I will yield for JDAM to share his OPINIONS with your OPINIONS > > Modou. > > > > >>> Albeit couched in inquiry. Besides, I have no comment on AGENDA > > 2020 > > > > and > > > > >>> caucuses and primaries. In a country where the battle is to > remove > > > one > > > > idiot > > > > >>> from office. Never will have. A sheer waste of time and resources > > to > > > > me. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [And to say that it is the primary question “that stands in the > > way > > > > of a > > > > >>> united front”, is an utter statement to say the least. How is > > the > > > > primary > > > > >>> question standing in the way of a united front? It is interesting > > > that > > > > your > > > > >>> option for a way forward for a united front is “UDP leading a > > united > > > > front > > > > >>> under an ironclad agreement constraining its ability to misbehave > > > once > > > > in > > > > >>> government.”] Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> There is no other way you can control the behavior or misbehavior > > of > > > > your > > > > >>> fellow in a democratic society. You must rely on their better > > > > >>> wisdom....Binding constraint. CHeck with Putin and Medvedev for > > more > > > > ideas. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [LJD, may I inform you that your favoured option for a united > > front > > > is > > > > a > > > > >>> deterrent to opposition unity to me as well as many others.] > > Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> It very well may be Modou and you are entitled to share that > > opinion > > > > with > > > > >>> us just as JDAM shared his with us. > > > > >>> Either of you or both of you sharing that does not the deterrent > > make > > > > for > > > > >>> the sober and reflective among us. When a people is confronted > > with > > > > >>> momentous considerations as Gambians are at this time, frivolous > > > > schemes > > > > >>> will not paly a large role in their calculus. Trust me. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> {And by the way what do you consider an “ironclad agreement” > > that > > > > will be > > > > >>> able to constrain the “ability [of the UDP] to misbehave once in > > > > >>> government.” LJD, I really want to know. Being the legal person > > that > > > > you are > > > > >>> your input in such an agreement will be worthwhile.} Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Ironclad agreement in law means an agreement signed by the > parties > > to > > > > a > > > > >>> negotiation. Nothing more nothing less. It does not mean clad in > > > steel > > > > or > > > > >>> any of iron's alloys. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [Personally, I share wholly Sidia’s view that he is "not sure > > which > > > > >>> political leader in the opposition could take voters away from > the > > > > ruling > > > > >>> party and motivate those who abstained in 2006 to cast their > > vote”, > > > > to help > > > > >>> the opposition win the election.] Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Modou, I also recognize that Hon. Sidia may not be sure of the > > > > foregoing. > > > > >>> I will add however that if Hon. Sidia wishes to be sure that the > > > > opposition > > > > >>> takes votes away from Yahya and encourage those who abstained to > > come > > > > out in > > > > >>> their good number, unafraid, to vote, is to combine the efforts > > and > > > > gravitas > > > > >>> of all those opposition political leaders in an ALLIANCE. That is > > > sure > > > > to > > > > >>> cover all the ambiguities. And don't discount the symbolism > > inherent > > > > in an > > > > >>> ALLIANCE-FRONT in the eyes of the vrai voters. In La-Guinea and > > Mali, > > > > folks > > > > >>> were not sure which of the opposition political parties (incl. > > ATT) > > > > would > > > > >>> win. But after hallmark ALLIANCES, any of the sober won. And > > Mali's > > > > >>> government was a national unity government. La-Guinea's > government > > > > promises > > > > >>> to be that too. A National Unity government is actually a > > misnomer. > > > > What we > > > > >>> call a National Unity government is actually a Government as > > > democracy > > > > >>> envisioned. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [Your argument that “UDP has a far larger support base than any > > > > >>> opposition party in the country” is not a good enough argument > > and > > > > guarantee > > > > >>> for us to flock behind them.] Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Modou, consider that that opinon of JDAM is not good enough > > argument. > > > > Now > > > > >>> consider UDP (whose support base is questionnable therefore) > > alloyed > > > > with > > > > >>> NRP, PPP, GMC, and PDOIS. Or let's say PDOIS has the far larger > > > > support base > > > > >>> than any opposition. Then consider PDOIS alloyed with UDP, NRP, > > GMC, > > > > and > > > > >>> PPP. What do you think you're gonna git???? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [Furthermore, I personally discourage PDOIS from ever thinking of > > > > >>> supporting a UDP led alliance. We are not part of UDP.] Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Let's say PDOIS ascends to your advice Modou for fancy. Would you > > > > >>> envisage UDP, NRP, PPP, or GMC or all to ever think of supporting > > a > > > > >>> PDOIS-led alliance??? After all none of these parties are part of > > > > PDOIS. DO > > > > >>> not mistake grace and consideration for obsolescence. You are > > > > basically > > > > >>> constraining PDOIS' dynamism in the future should they heed to > > your > > > > advice. > > > > >>> It is comforting to know that PDOIS is a more reflective party > > than > > > > that. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [We are a party of our own with it’s holds different views on > > how to > > > > run > > > > >>> the affairs of our country once mandated by the people.] Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The other parties are parties of their own which hold different > > views > > > > on > > > > >>> how to run the affairs of our country once mandated by the > people. > > At > > > > this > > > > >>> time, we work on "being mandated by the people". PDOIS will not > > lose > > > > its > > > > >>> identity and uniqueness by forming an electoral alliance with > > other > > > > >>> democratic parties if PDOIS' interest is democracy. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [However, conscious of the circumstances on the ground and the > > > > position > > > > >>> of the parties’ seeking to replace the APRC in government, we > > fully > > > > >>> subscribe to a pooling of resources and strengths to effect a > > change > > > > of the > > > > >>> system. This pooling of resources should not amount to helping > one > > > > part of > > > > >>> the whole into becoming a lord over the rest of the others.] > > Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I suppose you'd rather the other parts pool their resources to > > help > > > > PDOIS > > > > >>> into becoming Lord over them. How can a party become Lord over > her > > > > allied > > > > >>> parties Modou????? I see you're in a defiant mood these days my > > > > friend. You > > > > >>> cannot forge an alliance with this attitude. Imagine if Francois > > > > Lounceny > > > > >>> Fall, Ousmane Bah, DIallo, Kouyate, Fofana, Kourouma, Bangoura, > > > Toure, > > > > >>> Baadiko, Barry, Kaba, or Camara had your frame of mind. We would > > not > > > > have > > > > >>> had this new hope for La-Guinea. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [Since it is the collective input of a group that helps to bring > > > about > > > > >>> such a change, it has to be transitional in order to finally give > > way > > > > for a > > > > >>> level and multiparty contest by all on equal footing, nothing > more > > > > nothing > > > > >>> less.] Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I don't see anyone arguing with the concept of a transitional > > > > government. > > > > >>> By its very definition in democracy, a government is inherently > > > > >>> transitional. And the level and multiparty both should be accrued > > in > > > > that > > > > >>> transition. Frankly I don't know what your anxieties are Modou. > > You > > > > seem to > > > > >>> agree at the end of your notes that what an ALLIANCE would yield > > > > (change) is > > > > >>> good. But in the beginning, you take exception at PDOIS even > > > > considering a > > > > >>> party-led alliance on account of PDOIS' uniqueness. It is unique > > > > parties > > > > >>> that form Alliances. I suppose if the other parties were to wake > > up > > > on > > > > the > > > > >>> wrong side of the bed one day and say "PDOIS, we would like to > > follow > > > > your > > > > >>> lead in an alliance of our parties" you would reject it outright > > > > because > > > > >>> they are different from you????????????????????? Allahu > > wakubaru!!! > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [A change for the better is what we are yearning for not the > > > elevation > > > > of > > > > >>> others above the rest.] Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> In America, we were yearning for a change for the better. We > > thought > > > > we > > > > >>> would elevate Obama above Hillary and the rest so he can be our > > > > Pall-bearer > > > > >>> into that change. The scenario you envisage is that of a > stalemate > > > > society > > > > >>> with a whole bunch of chiefs and no injuns. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [If any is so desperate let them go get it hence no one can > accuse > > us > > > > of > > > > >>> helping to put in office a bad government whenever it turns out > to > > be > > > > >>> so.] Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> And if doesn't turn our to be so?????? You don't want to be > > accused > > > of > > > > >>> removing your persecutor for fear your brother might replace him. > > A > > > > brother > > > > >>> who has never indicated to you in his history that he will > > persecute > > > > you. Eh > > > > >>> Allah. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> [If PDOIS was only interested in changing governments, the PPP > > > > government > > > > >>> would have been history long before 1994.] Modou. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> You're funny Modou. WHy do you think there was no PDOIS during > the > > > > >>> COLONIAL GOVERNMENT that preceded the > > > > >>> > > PPP????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? > > > > That is > > > > >>> the $64,000.00 question. I suppose PDOIS did not have the > > requisite > > > > >>> consciousness then???? And what is PDOIS interested in besides > > > > replacing the > > > > >>> government of the day????? Maybe we can point PDOIS in the right > > > > direction > > > > >>> when we know what he's wantin. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Men, I'll be late for my meeting. Later men. What a pain in the > > > > arse??? > > > > >>> Haruna. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> --- On *Tue, 12/7/10, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]>* > > > wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> From: Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> > > > > >>> Subject: Re: Foroyaa News: Talks on Opposition Unity Between > Sidia > > > and > > > > >>> Darboe > > > > >>> To: [log in to unmask] > > > > >>> Date: Tuesday, December 7, 2010, 3:46 AM > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Nyang > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Sidia's statement is quite extraordinary in its evasiveness and > > > > needless > > > > >>> inbuilt propaganda. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> When did the meeting with Ousainou happened? > > > > >>> > > > > >>> His Central Committee knew he was meeting Ousainou. Did he report > > > > back, > > > > >>> or was he *"invited to a meeting by the PDOIS Executive Committee > > to > > > > >>> brief them on whether the UDP leader had spoken to me about any > > > > Alliance > > > > >>> that they wanted PDOIS to join which aims to discuss the future > of > > > the > > > > >>> country and the modalities of creating a united front without any > > > > >>> conditionality"* > > > > >>> > > > > >>> What *"speculations"* is Sidia talking about? It was no secret > > that > > > > >>> Sidia and Ousainou met, and this statement from Sidia may > > therefore > > > be > > > > seen > > > > >>> as nothing other than a replay of the NADD disaster in 2006. Even > > > when > > > > it > > > > >>> was absolutely clear we would not get a united front against > > Doctor > > > > >>> Jammeh (as he then was), we were bombarded with ceaseless > > propaganda > > > > from > > > > >>> Halifa regarding his willingness to adhere to the wishes of the > > > > people. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> About Ousainou selling his *"his candidature to the Gambian > > voters*", > > > > >>> this is indeed feet dragging par excellence by Sidia and his > > > > organisation. > > > > >>> The spirit enunciated in Agenda 2011 is embodied in the general > > > > principles > > > > >>> of opposition to the government of the APRC. Merely committing > > them > > > to > > > > paper > > > > >>> does not make them unique principles of PDOIS. It is the > "primary" > > > > question > > > > >>> that stands in the way of a united front in the sense that its > > > > architecture > > > > >>> appears to rig the outcome in favour of Halifa. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> For example, Sidia contends that he is *"not sure which political > > > > leader > > > > >>> in the opposition could take voters away from the ruling party > and > > > > motivate > > > > >>> those who abstained in 2006 to cast their vote. Hence I subscribe > > to > > > > the > > > > >>> idea of holding a primary for the people to select the candidate > > of > > > > their > > > > >>> choice in line with Agenda 2011. I told him that this is why I > > > endorse > > > > >>> Agenda 2011"*. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> If the ultimate objective is to is to *"take voters away from the > > > > ruling > > > > >>> party and motivate those who abstained in 2006 to cast their > > vote"* > > > in > > > > >>> sufficient numbers to defeat the APRC, then the answer is none of > > the > > > > >>> opposition leaders individually. That will only come about under > a > > > > united > > > > >>> front, and unquestionably, the UDP has a far larger support base > > than > > > > any > > > > >>> opposition party in the country. PDOIS should drop the > unnecessary > > > > >>> conditionality of a 'primary' and consider the alternative of UDP > > > > leading a > > > > >>> united front under an ironclad agreement constraining its ability > > to > > > > >>> misbehave once in government. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I am not the least impressed by Sidia's assertion thus: *"He > > assured > > > > me > > > > >>> that he would hold an extraordinary meeting with his committee > and > > > > come back > > > > >>> to me. Since then I have been waiting to know what their stand is > > on > > > > Agenda > > > > >>> 2011 or selling his candidature to the Gambian voters. These are > > the > > > > ways > > > > >>> forward that are before the UDP leader and they need to take a > > stand > > > > and > > > > >>> move on instead of giving the impression that Sidia is dragging > > his > > > > feet on > > > > >>> the issue of a united front".* > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Again, when did the meeting with Ousainou occurred, and did they > > > agree > > > > on > > > > >>> when Ousainou would "come back" to Sidia? As to the insinuation > > that > > > > >>> Ousainou is holding matters, when was the issue of a meeting > first > > > > mooted, > > > > >>> and how long did it take for it to materialise? Why is Sidia so > > eager > > > > to > > > > >>> preempt the issue of "feet dragging"? The trick is to appreciate > > the > > > > >>> pertinent streams of thought when dealing with a media savvy > > > > organisation > > > > >>> like PDOIS. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> And finally to a point that is ever present in expressed views of > > the > > > > >>> PDOIS leadership. Sidia states that *"those who want to support > > the > > > > >>> opposition should take their sides and promote dialogue while not > > > > >>> undermining each other’s positions. This is the way forward". > > > > *Halifa > > > > >>> stated this in his interview with *Maafanta.com*, and Sidia now > > > > repeats > > > > >>> it. Why can they not accept that Gambians can be *neutral,* and > > that > > > > >>> people like myself, Joe Sambou, and countless others, are in no > > way > > > > wedded > > > > >>> to any particular party, and that this is quite legitimate and > > > > plausible on > > > > >>> public questions of great significance. If this is intended to > > stop > > > > >>> difficult dialogue, it is unlikely to succeed. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> As of now, I am in no doubt that PDOIS is a major stumbling block > > in > > > > the > > > > >>> creation of a united front in so far as the non-negotiable > > bottleneck > > > > of an > > > > >>> unnecessary Agenda 2011 'primary' is concerned > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I assure Sidia that contrary to his view, we are well aware of > the > > > > >>> "concrete realities on the ground". Again, this dismissive > > statement > > > > will > > > > >>> not deter elements within the Diaspora community from having its > > say > > > > on > > > > >>> issues affecting the direction of our country. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> More pertinently, some of us are not primed to be swayed by mere > > > > >>> propaganda! > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> LJDarbo > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> --- On *Mon, 6/12/10, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]>* > > wrote: > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> From: Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]> > > > > >>> Subject: Foroyaa News: Talks on Opposition Unity Between Sidia > and > > > > Darboe > > > > >>> To: [log in to unmask] > > > > >>> Date: Monday, 6 December, 2010, 17:57 > > > > >>> > > > > >>> SIDIA JATTA /OUSAINOU DARBOE MEETING > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The National Assembly Member for Wuli West, Hon, Sidia Jatta, > > issued > > > > the > > > > >>> following statement relating to his meeting with Mr. Ousainou > > Darboe, > > > > >>> Secretary General and Leader of the United Democratic Party. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> DECEMBER 5, 2010 > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Having been waiting for Mr Ousainou Darboe to come back to me as > > > > promised > > > > >>> after meeting his Executive Committee, I was invited to a meeting > > by > > > > the > > > > >>> PDOIS Executive Committee to brief them on whether the UDP leader > > had > > > > spoken > > > > >>> to me about any Alliance that they wanted PDOIS to join which > aims > > to > > > > >>> discuss the future of the country and the modalities of creating > a > > > > united > > > > >>> front without any conditionality. It has been brought to my > notice > > > > that the > > > > >>> GMC leader, Mr. Mai Fatty, has called on PDOIS to join an > Alliance > > > but > > > > has > > > > >>> not sent any document to indicate that an Alliance exists which > > PDOIS > > > > should > > > > >>> join. After my discussion with the PDOIS Central Committee, I > have > > > > seen the > > > > >>> need to make my discussion with the UDP leader public so that all > > > > >>> speculations would come to an end. Gambians should bear in mind > > what > > > > has > > > > >>> happened in Guinea Conakry and what is happening in Cote > > D’Ivoire at > > > > this > > > > >>> very moment. Some leaders are not interested in historical > > legacies. > > > > They > > > > >>> are only interested in having their way whether for the better or > > for > > > > the > > > > >>> worse. Finally, it is the ordinary people who pay for the follies > > of > > > > their > > > > >>> leaders. I do not want any body to link me to any dragging of > feet > > > > regarding > > > > >>> the creation of a united front by the opposition. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> My discussion with UDP leader was direct, frank, short and > without > > > any > > > > >>> ambiguity. > > > > >>> We discussed four main items, that is, his concept of what > > > constitutes > > > > >>> the international standard of forming opposition alliances; the > > NADD > > > > >>> experience, Agenda 2011 and the need for opposition collaboration > > to > > > > monitor > > > > >>> the registration of voters. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Mr. Darboe told me that the international standard of > establishing > > > > >>> opposition Alliances is for the party with the majority to lead > > and > > > > the > > > > >>> others to follow. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I observed that it is unfortunate that in the Gambian context > > there > > > is > > > > no > > > > >>> second round of voting which would have made it possible for the > > > > people to > > > > >>> select the two candidates who could participate in the final > > round. I > > > > added > > > > >>> that if he wants, he as UDP leader to be supported as a > candidate, > > on > > > > the > > > > >>> basis of the principle he mentioned, he should go ahead and start > > a > > > > campaign > > > > >>> to sell his candidature to the Gambian voters. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I emphasised that on my part, I am not sure which political > leader > > in > > > > the > > > > >>> opposition could take voters away from the ruling party and > > motivate > > > > those > > > > >>> who abstained in 2006 to cast their vote. Hence I subscribe to > the > > > > idea of > > > > >>> holding a primary for the people to select the candidate of their > > > > choice in > > > > >>> line with Agenda 2011. I told him that this is why I endorse > > Agenda > > > > 2011. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> We then discussed the NADD experience. I made it very clear that > > even > > > > >>> though other options were put on the table, all parties agreed to > > > > create > > > > >>> NADD. I showed its successes and possibilities as a viable > > opposition > > > > >>> Alliance. He maintained that NADD was destroyed by others. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> He expressed his view that Agenda 2011 is very good on paper but > > that > > > > he > > > > >>> fears that it is not workable. He said that if different > > opposition > > > > leaders > > > > >>> go on a political platform to campaign to be the Candidate of the > > > > >>> opposition, they may engage in character assassination just to > win > > > > votes. I > > > > >>> told him that his fear should be laid to rest since Agenda 2011 > is > > > > calling > > > > >>> for each party or Independent personality to promote the Agenda > on > > > > one’s own > > > > >>> platform and seek a mandate of the people across the board. I > > > > emphasised > > > > >>> that the mere fact that all voters who support the Agenda would > be > > > > called > > > > >>> upon to vote for the single candidate makes it essential for no > > > > candidate to > > > > >>> be subjected to character assassination, since he or she may very > > > well > > > > >>> become the people’s choice of candidate. At that point he said > > that > > > > he was > > > > >>> reassured. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Finally, he questioned whether it was not possible for the > > opposition > > > > to > > > > >>> collaborate to monitor the registration of voters. I told him > that > > > > this was > > > > >>> a necessity and every effort should be done to do so. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> He assured me that he would hold an extraordinary meeting with > his > > > > >>> committee and come back to me. Since then I have been waiting to > > know > > > > what > > > > >>> their stand is on Agenda 2011 or selling his candidature to the > > > > Gambian > > > > >>> voters. These are the ways forward that are before the UDP leader > > and > > > > they > > > > >>> need to take a stand and move on instead of giving the impression > > > that > > > > Sidia > > > > >>> is dragging his feet on the issue of a united front. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> I have made it abundantly clear to the PDOIS Central Committee > > that > > > > there > > > > >>> is no political vacuum for the creation of a United Front in the > > > > Gambia. The > > > > >>> UDP leader has the option to start his campaign for the people to > > > > accept his > > > > >>> candidature and extend invitation to others who are yet to be > > > > confident that > > > > >>> he alone could put an end to voter apathy > > > > >>> Agenda 2011 calls for each party to go on its own platform and > > > > campaign > > > > >>> for its own candidate to be the single candidate of the > opposition > > > > through a > > > > >>> primary, > > > > >>> NADD is still legally registered and all political parties could > > > > embrace > > > > >>> it and then come together to select a single candidate. As far as > > I > > > > know > > > > >>> PDOIS still subscribes to the NADD idea but PPP under OJ has also > > not > > > > pulled > > > > >>> out of NADD. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> Those who want to support the opposition should take their sides > > and > > > > >>> promote dialogue while not undermining each other’s positions. > > This > > > > is the > > > > >>> way forward. I am willing to meet any representative from the GMC > > or > > > > any > > > > >>> other party that aims to discuss Gambia’s future. Issuing > > comments > > > > in cyber > > > > >>> space without knowing the concrete realities on the ground is not > > > > enough. > > > > >>> > > > > >>> The End > > > > >>> > > > > >>> SIDIA JATTA > > > > >>> NATIONAL ASSEMBLY MEMBER FOR WULI WEST > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To > > > > >>> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the > > > Gambia-L > > > > Web > > > > >>> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > > > > >>> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > > > > >>> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To > > > contact > > > > >>> the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > > > > >>> > > > > [log in to unmask]< > > > > > > http:[log in to unmask] > > > > > >¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > >>> > > > > > > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To > > > > >>> 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