Prince Fankung Fankung Jammeh which opposition party do you support ? Because it seems that you are supporting one of the opposition parties. ________________________________ From: Fankung Fankung Jammeh <[log in to unmask]> To: [log in to unmask] Sent: Fri, January 7, 2011 2:10:52 PM Subject: Re: Foday Samateh master piece on the Coalition stalemate. As STDGP deflate, independent opinions matters Guys, Why are you folks still fixated at this debate. Foday is a PDOIS supporter, Suntu is UDP. Please stop this name calling and tell your leaders that it is getting late for them. Darbo by himself cannot even get 20%. Gambians are tired of him. On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:05 PM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Joe >STDGP will always be relevant so long it measures when to advance it cause and >when to halt and self-analyse. As you once said here, our mutual criticism of >each other is not a bad thing. I strongly believe it will make us grow stronger >in accepting the diverse views of others. I will contest for the Chairmanship in >the next election in STDGP. I am banking on your vote. > >Sigga already assured me that she will vote for me. The election will be wide >open to all those who intend to be a registered member. I win against Banka no >question. I am not sure if Dindin Mansa is a member (Chongan), he will vote for >me. >On a serious note, dictatorship in Africa tend to bring the worst in people and >our case is no different. I still hope our guys back there can just bury their >hatchet and get along. Live is too temporal to continue bickering. Thanks any >way. > >Suntou > > >On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 6:54 PM, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >Suntou, thanks for your response. STGDP has done what it humanly can and we are >moving on. The parties know what Gambians demand. They give the voters what >they demand, the voter votes for them. They do other wise, the voters stay at >home to avoid going through a fruitless exercise. Goodluck to you and the UDP. > >> >> >>Joe >> >>________________________________ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 17:42:03 +0000 >> >>From: [log in to unmask] >>Subject: Re: Foday Samateh master piece on the Coalition stalemate. As STDGP >>deflate, independent opinions matters >>To: [log in to unmask] >> >> >>Joe >>STDGP will be here to stay and that is a welcome news. However, Foday said >>stuffs which we have been calling for. Unless you now require glasses, it is the >>UDP that is knocking on the doors of the others. I guess that passed you without >>your observation. The UDP outlined its approach to PDOIS's Sedia in that, they >>have to sit down and discuss ways of bridging the gaps, and who was it that >>turned the whole business into a media drama? >>Foday's views are commendable because of visible PDOIS support, therefore the >>limitations in his piece are not for me to highlight because he was braver than >>many to recognise that, no sane person should tell us to go to primaries with >>anyone. >>Also the terms limits, positions to be offer are the least relevant in a >>situtation where dialogue hasn't commence proper. The UDP have maintained that, >>Ousainou is serving one term limit, the constitution will be amended to >>stipulate two term limits, the spoils are irrelevant Joe when the crux of the >>matter is to first accept in principle the lead role of the UDP. >>The others can chose which post they wish to fill. The reason i ignore those are >>simply because they are not a stumbling block. >> >>The stumbling block are calling for primaries, refusal to engage with fellow >>party leaders. Foday exposed those facts. He must also as a PDOIS sympathiser >>appease his brothers with his skepticism. >> >>Now coming to Musa's material, it was me who first salute it a a brave call, but >>that it is missing some ingredients and that, going back to NADD is not an >>option because of the way the whole affairs was conducted. And the STDGP will >>always have a soft spot for NADD because the project that brought the >>organisation to prominence. If Musa openly says, I will recommend the position >>to STDGP, and folks like you came on it like a tone of bricks, one must ask, has >>STDGP endorsed the views of the Statesman (Father Mose?)... Musa has always been >>sober with is approach and the way he deal with others. He is an impecable >>gentleman and someone I observe can control his frustration, all the ingredient >>suited to a Diplomat charged with end war. >> >>My advise to Musa is (it may not be relevant) but is to go through his material, >>tick off areas that are tantanmount to agreement of both sides. He has read the >>reaction of readers, I hope he has taken stock. >> >>Suntou >> >> >>On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 5:10 PM, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> >>Suntou, for starters, please do not worry about the viability of the STGDP. We >>have been here in excess of a decade and you will come to find out that we will >>be here long after you are gone. Now, if you are interested in a united >>coalition to defeat Yaya, below is the cornerstone of what Foday stated, as to >>what your party and party leader must do for that to happen. Incidentally, the >>same thing that Gambians have been asking for, for the last ten years. Foday >>outlined both the strengths and shortcomings of the UDP, PDOIS, and NRP, yet, >>you only see that of your enemy. If you agree with Foday below, how come we are >>still here dealing with an impasse on our quest for a united coalition? What >>you and your camp have been doing have been done by others before you and it got >>us zilch. That is the reason why folks are not jumping in the discussion about >>a united opposition, for everything that is being said now by sober minds have >>already been said by many, including Foday's. You saw that Musa signed his name >>at the end of his write up. If it was that of the STGDP, don't you think you >>will also see the letters STGDP there? There is nothing baffling about that and >>there is nothing confusing about that. Personally, I will table for the STGDP >>to conclude discussion on a united coalition and to focus on finding an >>alternative after 2011. If the parties or their leadership are interested in a >>united coalition, our doors are open. However, we are done running and chasing >>after folks. Below is Foday's thoughts about a coalition. >>> >>> >>>"In this election cycle, Mr. Darboe is refusing to entertain any suggestion of a >>>primary. By all means he should for reasons highlighted above. Given the share >>>of mass support each opposition leader enjoys in the country, he is entitled to >>>insist on being the flag bearer. Nothing is undemocratic about it. The fact that >>>even as he reaches out to the others he stands firmly his ground on the question >>>of leadership makes him the leader he never proved to be." >>> >>> >>>"Beyond the solitary question of flag bearer, he must unconditionally put >>>all other cards on the table. He needs to make three major concessions to >>>demonstrate that he is willing to make real sacrifices for the nation in the >>>interest of alliance. He needs to unilaterally announce that if elected >>>president on the united opposition ticket, he will serve only one term of five >>>years to end our national nightmare. He needs to publicly give all the >>>assurances that the key positions in the transition government from vice >>>president, foreign minister, justice minister, finance minister, interior >>>minister and others will be given to alliance partners at a unity conference. He >>>needs to also publicly declare that the Shadow Cabinet of the Alliance will come >>>up with a comprehensive bill of democratic reforms as the campaign platform. >>>These reforms must include: writing a new Constitution to ensure full and >>>properSeparation of Powers and term limit for the President, realigning the >>>state institutions in conformity with open and transparent government, and >>>restructuring the economy. The policy and institutional reform aspects of the >>>2006 MoU and Agenda 2011 are great starting points and he needs to say so to >>>reassure fellow opposition leaders that he is reaching out in good faith and not >>>taking them for a ride. He also needs to caution his supporters to cease and >>>desist from using crude and gratuitous language in reference to his fellow >>>opposition leaders. If he will insist on being the leader he must act like one >>>both publicly and privately." >>> >>> >>>"Mr. Darboe’s own record of dealing with fellow opposition leaders has come home >>>to roost. In previous National Assembly elections, Mr. Sallah called >>>for tactical alliance among the opposition parties to win more seats for a >>>strong challenge to the ruling APRC in the legislature. In one instance at >>>least, UPD left Hon. Jatta to his own resources against the ruling APRC opponent >>>but kept throwing a spoiler at Mr. Sallah thus giving sense-defying advantage to >>>Yahya Jammeh’s candidate. Had Darboe made high-minded investment in graciousness >>>in the past, the opposition would have a bigger voice with Mr. Sallah in the >>>National Assembly and he would have much easier time convincing PDOIS that he is >>>a reliable national leader and not a petty partisan. He has never condemned or >>>renounced all the lies and fictitious innuendoes that kept erupting out of UDP >>>circles to discredit PDOIS and particularly, Mr. Sallah." >>> >>> >>>Joe ________________________________ Date: Wed, 5 Jan 2011 10:41:31 +0000 >>>From: [log in to unmask] >>>Subject: Re: Foday Samateh master piece on the Coalition stalemate. As STDGP >>>deflate, independent opinions matters >>> >>> >>>To: [log in to unmask] >>> >>> >>>Oh Musa I have read the piece thoroughly. It is you who need to read what i said >>>and re-read what Foday said. You know he is a genuine open PDOIS supporter who >>>took some swipe at Ousainou yet he was honest in appreciating what rival >>>politics is all about. To us PDOIS is not ideal and to them we are not ideal, >>>this is why, there is partisanship. >>>Foday honestly critic the PDOIS position with an open declaration and >>>appreciation of its leaders. His critics were soften with his strong skepticism >>>of UDP. This is what a good partisan should do especially with our level of >>>democracy. >>>I read his article three times before sharing, like I did with yours. Foday's >>>honesty lies in saying loud and clear, if it is PDOIS in UDP's position, no one >>>dare tell them to go through primaries and all the time wasting and foot >>>dragging. And only a frank commentator will do that. >>>Where he has erred was his fear that, Halifa is singled out by us for special >>>treatment. I agree, we singled him out because he was until recently the only >>>mouth piece of PDOIS and he never hesitate to take a swipe at us, therefore he >>>placed himself at our critical lenses. Foday also appeased his PDOIS brethren by >>>avoiding to tell them that, they too should desist from pouring scorn and lying >>>against us. But do i expect a reputable PDOIS supporter to toe the line that >>>far, hell no. However, notwithstanding his depiction of the UDP and Ousainou, he >>>spoke eloquently and frankly without any hidden dishonesty. >>> >>>Yours on the other hand seems favourable to the UDP, however, what you fail to >>>take into account is the fact that, NADD the pet project of your organisation is >>>a registered political party now. It is not the pristine idea that, STDGP >>>delicately sponsored. I in fact hailed your views, I am not afraid to accept the >>>sincere contribution of anyone. The irony is, some PDOIS contributors are >>>twisting your views to make it favourable to their side. I wonder why? Musa, you >>>guys have done your best and I agree with one of your older statesman who said, >>>it is time maybe to look for alternative options with Demba Baldeh as the >>>Presidential Candidate. God we need a journalist to take the mantle, who should >>>it be???? The Demba bit is a joke. >>> >>> One thing though, I thought your latest write up was your singular opinion >>>which you intend to recommend to STDGP or was it in fact STDGP's position with >>>your Chairman Banka, Secretary Chris, Sigga, Fatou Jaw, Demba and the whole >>>crews standpoint? This is the baffling bit. >>>Thanks >>>Suntou >>> >>> >>>On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 1:45 AM, Musa Jeng <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >>> >>>Suntou: >>>> >>>>Please go back and read this masterful piece, I totally agree with Mr. Samateh's >>>>points and in the final analysis I like what is really the ultimate objective of >>>>the piece.... a deal for a coalition of opposition parties to bring an end, to >>>>borrow his phrase - the Petty dicatator. >>>> >>>>Thank you >>>> >>>> >>>>----- Original Message ----- >>>>From: "suntou touray" <[log in to unmask]> >>>>To: [log in to unmask] >>>>Sent: Tuesday, January 4, 2011 6:35:29 PM >>>>Subject: Foday Samateh master piece on the Coalition stalemate. As STDGP >>>>deflate, independent opinions matters >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>>http://www.thegambiaecho.com/Homepage/tabid/36/articleType/ArticleView/articleId/2150/OpinionFor-The-Gambia-Our-Homeland.aspx >>>> >>>> >>>>Foday Samateh, I agree with you. I wasn't a UDP supporter either during the NADD >>>>debacle, because Ousainou allowed himself to be taken for granted. Life is about >>>>facing reality and handing undue concession is totally prone to failures. Lamin >>>>Waa was used by those who knew they have no muscle to muster yet allowed his >>>>non-existence principle to gallop to flag bearer position. I concur with your >>>>criticism of Ousainou for his 2006 allowances and it this allowances that Musa >>>>Jeng is pinning his compromise on. NADD is a political party of its own, this is >>>>against the grains of what should have done, hence NADD is not an option. >>>>An Excellent honest speaking. Imagine if we have more PDOIS thinkers like you >>>>and Bailo. Thanks >>>>Suntou >>>> >>>>-- >>>>Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22 >>>>"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the >>>>difference of your languages and colours. Verily, in that are indeed signs for >>>>men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran >>>> >>>>www.suntoumana.blogspot.com >>>>¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To >>>>unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >>>>interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the >>>>Gambia-L archives, go to: >>>>http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List >>>>Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] >>>>¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >>>> >>>> >>>>¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To >>>>unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >>>>interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the >>>>Gambia-L archives, go to: >>>>http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List >>>>Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] >>>>¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >>>> >>> >>> >>>-- >>>Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22 >>>"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the >>>difference of your languages and colours. Verily, in that are indeed signs for >>>men of sound knowledge." Qu'ran >>> >>>www.suntoumana.blogspot.com >>>¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To >>>unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >>>interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the >>>Gambia-L archives, go to: >>>http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List >>>Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] >>>¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >>> >>>¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To >>>unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >>>interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the >>>Gambia-L archives, go to: >>>http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List >>>Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] >>>¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >>> >> >> >>-- >>Surah- Ar-Rum 30-22 >>"And among His signs is the creation of heavens and the earth, and the >>difference of your languages and colours. Verily, in that are indeed signs for >>men of sound knowledge." 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