Suntou, You gotta give Fakoo Fakoo what he's looking for. And double. Haruna. In a message dated 1/27/2011 12:58:47 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [log in to unmask] writes: Fankung Now then, who I my responding to Fankung and what transpired to warrant my response? If you are able to answer that, then I will respond to you. What discussions occured in the freedom newspaper to warrant to attack on UDP U.S members, did you hear it, if not do and then spread your good news. Suntou On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:24 PM, Fankung Fankung Jammeh <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote: Suntu, Can't you understand that Gambians have passed this ethnic grouping nonsense. Please talk and defend UDP, and stop bombarding us with this ethnic stuff. If you feel that inclined to defend your tribe... start a website and start defending it. So please continue your defense of UDP and cut out mentioning tribes and telling us how diverse UDP is - Your Spain Chapter head is Sarahuleh. What importance is that? Why do you feel you need to mention that? Regards Fankung On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 12:15 PM, suntou touray <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote: Pa Are you talking about civility when you of all people after having a good mutual chat with our U.S member all of a sudden open a new chapter and you sub-conciously start bringing in ethnicity into party membership. This is my only distaste of your conversation. You are a journalist and please be critical of Ousainou, morning, evening and night. But place your facts correctly. As it became a crime for Gambians to stay away from politics because a family member is involve or those this applies only to the UDP? I wonder why Hilary Clinton join politics and why Bill campaign for him? I wonder why the U.K conservatives use the spouse of the candidates to sell the Husband? Pa you are the biggest fan of American politcs, why was Obama parading his entire family in front of our cameras during campaigning? Or is that, such is ok for America and bad for the Gambia... I wonder why in India, the Ghandia's and the Neru's dominate their politics. Yet To say the UDP is run by the Darboe clan is a clear ignorance on Gambian issues. Pa i do not consider you having any animosity against the UDP and in fact, you have said and done fabulous stuffs for the party media wise. however, when you bite the nerve endings, and touched on blatant unhealthy subject of ethnicity, you are threading on a dangerous territory. Take the freedomnewspaper as an example. Do you force or compel people to participate in your paper? All your fellow journalist that at one point or the other associated with your paper and moved on, did you compel them to stay with you? We in the UDP have an open door policy with regards to members both at home and diaspora. We make press releases and leave our contact details on each communications. We do have feedbacks from as far as Saudi Arabia, Spain, Italy and the U.S. In fact our new Spain Chapter will be headed by a Sarahuleh brother which not relevant but to counter your cheap usurpation. Falai, and many other UDP members in New York were aware of the founding of a new Chapter. Before the election of the executives, all known members where contacted to attend including Falai. Anyhow, we know, it is easy and a convenient thing to do an ethnical political dispensation for folks to look at the leader instead of the constituent of the party key players in passing erroneous judgment. The UDP see the media as partners in the struggle, we don't see you as friends. Hence we expect your accurate, honest observations. But please be careful of playing to elementary open ended attacks on the integrity of our party members especially where ethnicity is concern. You where raised among a mixed community. Some of us know the Fula community, likewise we know and understand the Wollof, Jola and Sarahuleh community. In such a Gambia, where we are intermingled, inter-married and mutually coexist, who do you think is winning in this horrible dictatorship? No one. Not the Jolas, neither others. This is why, when because of a minor disagreement someone ran to you with tears of been marginalized because of ethnicity, be careful before commenting. UDP U.S never stops anybody from joining, neither us, nor our partners in Sweden. But we cannot force anyone to join. I thought such a basic simple fact is clear. Who will want to get involve in the Gambian politics with a mad dictator at the helms? Who will Pa? How many of your peers are silently doing others things? How many Gambian journalist have now rightly change course? Hence, the fact is, many will cry Woolf but even if you visit them at their houses, they will never want to join in political activities. This is evident. Hence, we leave it to the listeners of Freedom Newspaper and readers to read between the lines. In our this age, our intellect should rule supreme. Truth is out. Suntou On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 11:37 PM, <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote: Yanks: Very sober reflections here, but why associating me with the PDOIS? I'm not affiliated with any party in The Gambia. But I must hasten to add that: If I were to support any party, I rather join the UDP because of the party's policies. Then, I will lobby your support including Ustas Suntou to replace Ousainou. On a more serious note: I appreciate all the sentiments expressed by different forum members on this particular thread. We are bound to agree, and disagree, but lest we forget that civility facilitates fruitful debate. Thanks. Sent via BlackBerry by AT&T ____________________________________ From: Yanks Darboe <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > Sender: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 23:09:44 +0000 To: <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > ReplyTo: The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > Subject: Re: Is Pa Nderry and the freedomnewspaper working for Jammeh and the APRC? Suntu Pa Nderry is currently on the payroll of PDOIS; just ignore him. I had a lot of calls regarding the same. I find uncle Falaye and Pa Nderry's call for Darboe to resign a bit interesting. I do not think they understand the UDP; as its party loyalists understands it. Calling Ousainou to resign without asking who will replace him will only be a detriment to the UDP, as a party. If anyone wants Ousainou to leave the UDP leadership; they must tell us who will replace him and whether that person will agree replace him. The UDP is an open democracy, if Pa Nderry and Falaye want to replace Darboe; they don't need to start such sinister propaganda on freedom, they can do so by putting their interest to party and compete with Darboe to the position. However, to ask for Darboe to resign without will lead for the destruction of the UDP; which i think both Nderry and Falaye do not want to see. Furthermore, the claim that Darboe should resign because he had been the leader of the party for too long is not credible. Take example of Abdlie Wadda, Alpha Condeh, and Alhasana Ouatara, they did not resign because they had been leaders of their respective parties in opposition for long. If that was a requirement they would not be presidents of their respective countries. And not forgetting my comrades in the PDOIS leadership, who have been opposition leaders before the birth of the Gambian nation!!!!!!! Yanks ____________________________________ Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 18:25:17 +0000 From: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) Subject: Re: Is Pa Nderry and the freedomnewspaper working for Jammeh and the APRC? To: [log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) Haruna I have been on record defending the right of the Freedomnews to dig deep into Gambian politics and affairs. However, recent happenings in the freedomnewspaper seems to expose the ugly side of a pundit. He is free to say whatever he deems fits and really, no one has any problem with that. But it seems the lazy, hypocritical accusations have surfaced in his radio. He now start accusing decent Mandingos of Tribalism whilst not doing the same for his other guest. He now brand Yahya Darboe and other UDP U.S members of controlling the UDP. I wonder what he eats before coming on air. Isn't he the same person speaking to Syngle Nyassi about UDP and Gambian politics. No single UDP support group come into effect without the approval of Ebou Manneh and this is evident even with the New UDP Sweden chapter. Whoever is feeding him this malicious lies should serious think before prating. But then the dangers of ethnic co-existence always lingers.. . This is the most absurd nonsense I have heard for a while. Now it appears Mandinkas have to be careful in involving in politics if not, cheap idiots will come at them with stupid nonsense. Let Pa Nderry go CNN and see if his futile statements will mean anything. Why should the mere discussion of differing views brought ethnicity into our politics? I thought that, Pa of all people is beyond this rubbish but alas, .. Pa should remember that, his radio is effective only if it serve the public good. Using it as weapon against those he disagree is bringing back the early days of the Freedom newspaper when he use to attack just anyone. I hope in time, he be restraint enough to sit tightly on the fence, for now let see it as Talk show host let loose. And who is trying to please with the maligning of Mandingo members of UDP? No single member of the the UDP will be hindered with lies against those who wish to play an active role in Gambian politics. If supporting a party of their choice means they are tribalist, well then.. who careless. It is sad to see Pa spending his valuable time talking on irrelevant self-defeating subjects rather than importance matters on Gambian politics. As it happens, those feeding him have benefited more from the UDP than those they are attacking, how ironical. Now Pa said, Fulas are the largest ethnic group in the Gambia. That is fantastic news and by Allah may they increase in number. Another gentleman said, some Mandinkas in Sweden hand his daughter in Marriage without his approval and that means, the Mandinkas always think they are better than others. Now then, open the cans of worm, lets get on with it. Let Pa bring on more Mandinka maligning and relax, if that is what it will take, it is ok. Suntou On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > wrote: Kemo and Ansu, Falaye's case is one of fraudulent agency. Any speech emanatin from fraudulent agency does not fall under Free speech. Many "journalists" confuse the universal and intrinsic rights to free speech and its underpinnings. Being a "supporter" of a political party is not the same as being a member or an official of the party. Haruna. -----Original Message----- From: Ansumana Bojang <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask] (mailto:[log in to unmask]) > Sent: Wed, Jan 26, 2011 11:04 am Subject: Re: Is Pa Nderry and the freedomnewspaper working for Jammeh and the APRC? Jallow, This seems to be a simple case of Pa Nderry was exposed for his bias. His subsequent shows have exposed this more. You can see that he is trying to find anyone who he can have come on his show to say anything negative about UDP and Lawyer Darbo. He is always talking from both sides of his mouth contracdicting himself everytime he opens his mouth. Pa needs to take a dose of reality and move on with better things for him and Gambia if he cares about Gambia. I have read the UDP, USA press release and listened to the radio show and all I heard is the USA members trying to tell the audience what the party is up to and defend lies being pedalled against UDP. Don't they have the right to speak their opinions too just like Falaye that Pa Nderry is defending for his right to free expression? Ansu ---- Kemo Jallow said: Listening to Pa Nderry after the defection of Rambo to APRC ,with the issues Pa is talking about trying to be little Ousainou Darbo on his radio. One can say that Pa is working for Jammeh. With his double standard comments Pa is ready to destroy UDP. MY ADVICE TO GAMBIANS AND THE UDP IS TO BE VERY CAREFUL WITH PA NDERRY AND HIS FREEDOMNEWSPAPER. Pa has an agenda against the gambian opposition. NADD failed because of some comments mde on the online newspapers specially the freedomnewspaper. Pa said that he is independent and know one can controll him. Then why he want to controlls the UDP by supporting ideas calling for a change in the party he did not support. Anyone who know Darbo personally knows that Darbo is not tribalist. UDP UK and UDP USA please stop discussing certain issues at the freedom radio. Right now we dont need a journalis or a person who is trying to undermine the little efforts of our opposition political partys, who are struggling everyday on the ground. I would be very happy if Pa Nderry can come on the ground and form a political party and challenge Jammeh. Ablie Wadda has been and opposition leader for decades before being a president. 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