Mr. Darbo,
come on you are smarter and can do better than this. Please let us move on.
We all agree that Mandinka's are superior. Let us close this and move.

Have a good weekend. ...

On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Yanks Darboe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

>  Old Pa, Sang-buda!!!!
>
> Interesting Observation!
>
>
> Do you know Pa Saikou Kujabi is not a manding,
> but i won't engage you into your folly number count.
>
> If other Gambian tribes in the diaspora refused to be
> part of the UDP, because of what you are
> stupidly insinuating
> as their viewing of it as Manding party; then those people cannot
> claim to be non Tribalists.
>
>
> Simply because that mere notion that they will not join the UDP
> because they are Manding people; is in itself bigotry!!!! And surely
> such a claim is nothing more than a confession of a bigot!!!!
>
> It seems Joe you have now emptied your closet about your hatred
> for the Manding.
>
> But how stupid can you be old man, to then reason that the manding
> should not join the UDP. If you don't want to join the UDP because of
> it's Manding composition, how stupid can you be to expect that the
> manding people will also do the same.
>
> To break it down for you, Bigot!!!
> When the white people shun black schools because black people were
> attending those schools, they did not reason as low as you did to expect
> that black people will also shun the same schools.
>
> So to answer your stupid bigot question, as to how many Fulas and wollofs
> are in the diasporan UDP composition, i will boldly tell you nill, why they
> did
> not, if we go by your insinuation because they hate to join mandings and
> their party.
>
> So your Fulas and wollofs may not want to be part of the UDP, because of
> their hatred for the mandings.
>
> But you and they will be stupid to expect us to do the same.
>
>
> You bigot bastard!!!!!!
>
>
> Your most hated Manding!!!!
>
> Nemesis Yanks
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 19:00:27 -0600
> From: [log in to unmask]
>
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> 'Kuba, you are hilarious.  Come on don't spin it.  Your response had
> nothing in relation to what I said.  Let's try one more time:
>
> "You, however, have demonstrated that had Yaya been Mandingo, you will be
> among the psycophants around him today, murders and all."
>
> Who cares what tribe you or I is?  It is a non-issue unless you are a
> bigot.  I am still waiting for you to point to one person in the diaspora
> that is your spokesperson who is not Mandinka.  The few Fulas you
> cannibalized upon.  Now, you are left with Sanusi.  Something tells me that
> you folks deliberately
> crafted your situation.  Hopefully, after this conversation, the UDP will
> realize it needs to get rid of the ignorance that serves as its front-line.
>  The funny thing here is the
> savvy ones are quiet and they let loose the dumb to act the fool.  Work
> Horse, why is few of you here and not the brains behind the UDP?  Sembo Ning
> Nyaa Kuyaa!  Yanks,
> please get lost.  Before that, how are with basic conversation I do not
> want to see you giving brief.
>
> Joe
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 22:39:39 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Old Pa Joe!
>
> It seems your decayed head can't comprehend your own insinuations,
> it was your insinuation that i would have supported Jammeh if he had
> been a Manding. In other words, your carrion-head has misled you into
> reasoning that the only reason we support Darboe and the UDP is because
> he is a Manding.
>
> Do you know you shared that reasoning with Yahya Jammeh, who also thinks
> every Manding is a supporter of the UDP; simply because they are Mandings.
>
>
> Yet you seem lost with my reference of Jawara and Sheriff.
>
> To help your numb head, if your insinuation was right the Sheriff would
> have
> been a sycophant of Jawara, simply because he is a manding.
>
> You are indeed pre-civilization minded Joe!!!!!!!!!
>
> It never occurred to your dummy brain that we also have right just like
> you to chose and support any party of our choice, without that being
> deemed
> tribalism.
>
> So get it into your foloto-head Old Pa that our support for the UDP is in
> exercise of our basic human right and not because of tribalism!!!!!!!!
>
> By the way, have you now discovered your Bayinunka heritage!!!
>
> You're a big fool old man, calling yourself a Jola man.
>
> Your Nemesis
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Fri, 28 Jan 2011 17:32:48 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Ndokey, it appears to me that there is a comprehension issue going on with
> you.  From what I said below, how did you come up with your below response?
>  Ok, ok, Jawara, Sheriffo, and Yankuba are all grade A Mandingoes.  So what?
>  Who has an issue with that?  No one I know.  You are loosing it Yanks, slow
> down.
>
> Joe
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:57:28 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Check history old man
>
> It will prove you wrong for Jawara was a manding; and
> his main opposition was also a manding, Sheriff Dibba.
>
> Mandings are not Bayinunkas, calling themeselves Jolas.
>
> What's wrong with your old decayed head!!!
>
> Your nemesis.
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:49:55 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Wow, it it is getting deep.  At the rate you are going, Sambou may
> even origin from Mandingo.  What difference does it make?  Tribe is just an
> accident of birth fool.  I could have been Chinese for what it's worth.
> Yes, my world view is beyound tribe and religion.  Thus, I can be at peace
> with any seetting you put me in the Gambia.  My assocaition with all tribes
> in the Gambia added value to my development.  That is why I will never
> wait for harm to be done by a Jola and be mute about it.  You, however, have
> demonstrated that had Yaya been Mandingo, you will be among the psycophants
> around him today, murders and all.  No, you waste your time to dig up
> history about tribal origin.  What a clown.  You sound like a twelve year
> old.
>
> Joe
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:38:52 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Old man
>
> You are confused!!!!
>
> Some days you are a wolof; other days you are a Jola or Aku.
>
> Tell me do you know who you are?
>
> May be you don't know this Sambou is a Bayinunka surname
> and not Jola. Have you changed your tribe now??
>
> Check the history of Sambou.
>
> Your Nemesis!
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 23:31:37 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Nokey, you make me laugh.  Now, I can throw you a curve ball at you by
> saying something that supports your narrow agenda and violla, I will be the
> next best thing since Mangora and you all will not get enough of me.  The
> same Musa Jeng you guys hoisted a few days ago is the same person you tried
> labelling a tribalist, many times before.  Speaking of tribalism, what
> benefit will I get being a tribalist against Mandingoes?  I am Jolla, you
> will agree with me that all I had to do is to have kept my mouth shut and I
> would be presiding over your faith today, in the Gambia.  I could have kept
> my mouth shut and be able to zip in and out of Gambia like some of you.  So,
> what do I get for being anti-Mandingo?  You see how silly you sound.  If it
> was several years ago you would have resorted to accusing me of being a
> snitch for Yaya which you know does not work, especially after more that a
> decade being caught on a lie.  No, Joe is not your problem, the rest of
> Gambia is.  I pointed out the obvious to you all.  Look at who is in your
> corner and show us just one person that is non-Mandingo?  Not a sole.
> What are the ods of me starting a Gambian Soccer Club anywhere in the US and
> it be solely populated by Jolas?  If it happens, it would not be an accident
> but a deliberate design and you will be on strong footing to call it the
> Jola club, which it would be by any means I slice it.  The strange thing
> here is you folks do not even hide your intensions.  As I write, you all
> have not lost a beat.  Same bunch patting each other on the back and you
> expect folks to be silent about it.  No Ndokey, I will not only call out the
> elephant in the room, but I will also point him out, and if I was close to
> it, will touch it.  Get use to it.  You are going to be called what you
> demonstrate.  This is a game you bunch will not win.
>
> Joe
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 22:49:18 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Mr Kebbeh
>
> I beg to differ with you that Suntu is a tribalist. The real tribalist in
> all the Gambian
> online forums is Joe Sambou.
>
> Joe simply does not like the mandings. His ardent adversaries on all the
> forums
> are the mandings. The man is simply anti-manding!!!!
>
> He is foolish to reason so dumb that we will succumb to his bigotry!
>
> Suntu has every right to defend his ethnicity and Joe can say whatever he
> likes but
> the real tribalist is he himself!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> And i speak from experience here!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
> Nemesis Yanks
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:21:18 -0500
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Mr. bojang,
> If there is a tribalist here it is Suntu. Joe is just responding to his
> never ending tribal remarks. You are the only one who miss Suntu's tribal
> slant. He cannot understand we are passed that.... WE ARE ONE GREAT GAMBIA
> UNDER ONE GREAT LEADER.
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:00 PM, Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]>wrote:
>
>   Joe
>
> With the greatest respect, I am more concern about the big picture. I never
> thought my positing was meant to disarm  you.  My posting was a call for
> truce but if you do not consider
> it necessary then you are more than welcome to go ahead. One thing to note
> is that we are all losers in this episode
>
> As regards to the point about your brother, I have always known him as an
> honorable man. I last saw him in 1988 when PDOIS had one of its political
> rally  next to the Latrikunda Mosque. Given the type  of man Pa Sambou was,
> I doubt whether he will make such bizarre remark about his colleague Halifa.
> You are right, I made no mention of him, but the rationale behind this is
> that
>  I was very much concern about the BIGGER PICTURE- 10 months to go and the
> Silent Majority cannot come to an agreement as to how Jammeh should be
> defeated
> .
> Finally, it was nice to note that you remember the days I used to hang at
> your place. It certainly reminds me of good memories which I will continue
> to cherish.
>
> **
>
>
> From: Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Thursday, 27 January, 2011, 20:14
>
>
> Joey, I think you know exactly what I am saying and you know me better than
> that.  For you to come here to pretend that you being Krio means UDP UK is
> not demonstrating tribalism is putting your integrity at stake if it is of
> any value to you.  This has nothing to do with being personate, and your
> supposition to that effect is even an assault to my sensibilities. When
> Suntou made that stupid comment about Pa that you knew to be a blatant lie,
> did you interject?  No, you were mute.  In the interest of disclosure,
> Sanusi/Joey was a frequent visitor at my home in Gambia and hung with one of
> my nephews and knows very well the person Suntou is character assassinating,
> yet, he stayed mute, but find it convenient to accord blame for my response.
>  Nai Lerr rek, that is all I ask of any.  If you cannot tame your
> associates, please do not come here to attempt to disarm.  I am not in the
> mood for that.
>
> Joe
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:59:19 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>   Joe
>
> I am only making a call for us to put a stop to this unnecessay squabbling.
> I for one will never question your sincerity in the struggle. Whilst, we
> belong to different parties within the opposition, we share a common goal.
>
> Coming to the issues you have raised, I find it really unfortunate that
> this is the route we have taken. What I can say is that people tend to be
> passionate about their political affiliation to the point that a mere change
> of distraction may be considered tribalist, but this is certainly not the
> case. Please note that I am a Krio Boy but this does not stop me from
> supporting UDP even it is wrongly perceived as a Mandinga Based Party.
>
> If I have not clarified myself, then I am more happy to elaborate further.
>
> --- On *Thu, 27/1/11, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Thursday, 27 January, 2011, 19:46
>
> Sanusi, I would hope that you will not want folks to walk away questioning
> your honesty.  With what you have seen thus far, can you honestly be general
> in your comments in the face of what you have read and heard on the
> airwaves?  If you have difficulty addressing this bunch because you share a
> party, I can understand.  What I do not understand is you seeing what all
> see, but choose to unduly spread blame.  Can you honestly say you do not see
> the tribalism that folks are discussing, especially, in light of what
> transpired within the last week of so?  I think you know me better than you
> want to portray.
>
> Joe
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:34:55 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>   Kejaw
>
> If this is the way we behave whilst in opposition then surely the people
> are right to vote for Jammeh until he reaches 100 years. The current
> situation in the Gambia calls for a sincere and mature discourse, but off
> late, I am absolutely disappointed with the route these guys have
> undertaken.
>
> The battle will not be won by trading insults among each other. It requires
> a honest analysis of the current predicament facing our motherland.
>
> Respect to all you, lets stay united for a genuine course
>
> Alsaamaday
>
> Sanusi
>
> --- On *Thu, 27/1/11, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]>* wrote:
>
>
> From: Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Date: Thursday, 27 January, 2011, 19:24
>
> Come on guys! You all seem to be missing the points! One of them being how
> do we transcend our apparently inherent differences and forge alliances.
> What are we all missing guys, why can we never unite and organise as a
> struggle? How comes we are always fighting amongst ourselves everyday? How
> can we forget the giant of tasks before us in trying to restore democracy
> and rule of law in our country?
>
>
> Kejau :-(
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 19:12:06 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Come on Suntou!  You are a tribal and religious bigot and you have good
> company with you and please save me from your hypocrisy of being sorry.
>  Sorry my foot!  You must elaborate on what you know about Mr. Sambou for
> your readership.  If he were alive, I will leave him to fend for himself.
>  However, since he is not here to defend himself, I will speak for him,
> leaving nothing as sacred.  Also, please do not make a boldface lie here.
>  You do not know Mr. Sambou, but the lie you were fed that is why you could
> not elaborate.  I am also going beyond the contours of your lie to address
> the tribal nature of your pac.  This is why I sometimes seriously ponder
> whether if per chance Yaya was a Mandingo, whether your gang will have an
> issue with him, murders and all.
>
> Suntou, you folks are sick. Everything is about tribe.  Your Gang fought
> the STGDP for years and labeled it biased against the UDP/Ousainou, called
> Kebba and Musa tribalists against Mandingoes, but no sooner did we have
> Banka as the Chairman did you folks have a Jambadong all over this place
> congratulating the STGDP.  What you did not realize is you never bothered to
> know who Banka is and what he stands for.  You have since realized that
> Banka's vision for Gambia and our struggle is not in league with your tribal
> sickness.  It is also interesting that with Hamat's separation, you are now
> embarked on cleaning house and ready to cannibalize on non-Mandingoes within
> the diaspora UDP chapters.  Folks are aware what what went on within the UDP
> with Sahou Mballow.  I bring these anecdotes up to show folks you all's
> track record.  At a time when Gambians are supposed to address our murderer
> in Yaya, you jackasses are here waging a war hinged on sickness.  All you
> are demonstrating to Gambians is that you folks are not fit to lead any.
>  You are doing a darn good job convincing Gambians that you have nothing to
> offer them.  The sad thing is your sickness is so deep that you do not
> bother to be subtle about it.  What do we see here daily, the same crop to
> prowl here, rabid and sick to spread your tribal disease.
>
> I feel the pain of many Mandingoes that do not share your neurosis but are
> put in a funny position because of an accident in the tribe they happen
> share with you.  To those folks, I am here to assure you that no Gambian
> with an ounce of sense will devalue your contributions in our struggle and
> we know where your heart lies.  You are also not responsible for the
> sickness demonstrated by this bunch no more than I am responsible for the
> murderer in Yaya.  The only way Gambians can get rid of our murderer is to
> transcend tribalism.  To Yaya, every Gambian is just an opportunity or
> victim for him to stay on and he will cannibalize on the Jola, just as he
> will do the Mandingo, Wolof, Fula, Ndjago, Serer, Narr, etc. to achieve his
> end.  Suntou, you folks are a disgrace to the challenges of our people.
>
> Joe
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 17:49:36 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Mr Sambou
> Sorry if my statement that, his 'Christian' name bothered you.  In England
> such is use to identify people's  first name. The nurse at Dentist clinic
> nurse never fail to ask me my Christian name Joe. But then, Joe is glad to
> shift that as some religious issue.
>
> Go on, Mr Sambou formerly of PDOIS, did you know him? Didn't it occur to
> you that, I may have forgotten his first name? I am not bothered about your
> agitations Joe. If you are the vanguard for the Sambou's that is ok. A
> couple of people have emailed me his first name but to enjoy your rant, I
> will continue to leave it out.
> The late Mr Sambou was a happy APRC member. May his soul rest in peace.
> Suntou
>
> On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 5:38 PM, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
>
> Suntou, thanks for your response and I am glad you are man enough to add
> more details.  It is interesting that you provided a first name for Darbo
> and Jones, but chose to use Mr. for Sambou.  Please, stop the cover and
> exclude your Darbo from this discussion.  I know you lot better.  Also, your
> world view is wrapped around religious and tribal demagoguery, thus, your
> hallucination will drive you to see "My Christianity".  Suntou, I do not
> just hear a crackle and conclude the sky is falling.  Thus, I sought your
> clarification.
>
> Now, the Mr. Sambou you referenced is my elder brother and not my uncle (so
> much for knowing a person), and I know you do not know his name because you
> actually do not know the man outside what you were fed.  His name is Louis
> Sambou, but commonly called Pa Sambou.  Now, please do not let any stone
> unturned, for you must tell your readership what you know about "Mr.
> Sambou", no matter how ugly, in the interest of truth in discussion.
>  Anything less will be fraudulent on your part, especially as you float
> around here, beard and all, as the most holy and Allah loving.  The good
> thing here is there are countless here that know the same person you are
> trying to character assassinate and they can vouch for you.
>
> Yes, he was not only with PDOIS, but he was with the Voice of the Future
> and taught hundreds of adults to read and write at night, free of charge
> dating back to the early 70s.  I will also help you with a time line as you
> gather your dirt.  Mr. Sambou died in March 1999 and Yaya came to power on
> July 22, 1994.
>
> "This Mr Sambou commented of Halifa dietery habits, his love of yogurt was
> name among brother Sallah delicacy. Isn't that enough clues Uncle Joe. May
> his soul rest in peace. Ameen."
>
> Suntou, if you want to say something to Halifa, just say it.  You do not
> have to manufacture lies here.  How can you in good conscience stand here
> and tell this lie just because you can?  What do you know about Mr. Sambou's
> separation from PDOIS and how do you equate it with Rambo's separation from
> the UDP?  While at it , please educate your readership on the nature of Mr.
> Sambou's separation from PDOIS.  That would enhance your credibility as you
> tell your story.
>
> Suntou, you have an internal demon that is killing you.  Just to provide
> cover for Rambo's defection, you will throw around all kinds of filth.  Just
> look at you folks.  For anyone that doubted your tribal tendencies, they
> will have no recourse but to acknowledge your tribal neurosis.  I figured
> out you folks a long time ago, thus, I alerted Gambians to your ways and now
> you are at full trottle.  Waedy, Gis Mba Dega Borkucha!  The moment Musa
> Jeng said what you all wanted to hear, he is your darling, but at a flit you
> will not spare the kitchen sink to cannibalize him at the slightest hint he
> say a word you do not like about Darbo.  This is sickness folks.  I careless
> who joins Yaya for we have passed the conversation regarding a coalition and
> Gambians are looking ahead of 2011.  The more you folks fight against any on
> a tribal basis, the more you show your cancer. You are like a pac of rabid
> dogs.  How come everyone that responds with you all happen to be Mandingo?
>  Who is among the UDP UK or USA that is vocal among the UDP that is
> non-Mandingo?  Not a sole.  How likely is it that as tribally diverse as
> Gambian society is, that all of you that come to howl here about the UDP are
> all Mandingoes?  You all want a discussion, we will have a discussion.  It
> appears that you folks are loosing your heads and the group neurosis you
> have displayed and continue to display gave Gambians pause as to who they
> are dealing with.  I will ignore you bunch until you throw your filth my
> way.  So yes, we are going to have a discussion and we will not leave stone
> unturned.
>
> Joe
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Thu, 27 Jan 2011 16:11:35 +0000
>
> From: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>
> Yanks
> This is hilarious. I never thought the omission one Sambou clan will cause
> Uncle Joe to jack his chin for the Christian name, is Joe the watchdog of
> every Sambou family name.
> I may have exaggerated Joe knowledge of Gambian politics, if not he of all
> people should have known which Mr Sambou cross carpet to APRC from PDOIS
> with David Jones who once contested as a candidate for Banjul. Wasn't that
> Mr Sambou among the early founding members of PDOIS? I want Joe to ably
> connect the dots. Sorry for the agony, no one brought your queries to my
> attention it seems.
> This Mr Sambou commented of Halifa dietery habits, his love of yogurt was
> name among brother Sallah delicacy. Isn't that enough clues Uncle Joe. May
> his soul rest in peace. Ameen.
> Suntou
>
> On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 10:08 PM, Yanks Darboe <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
>
> Joe
>
> Old pa why are you asking that question when you bloody well know the
> answer to that question.
>
> Its one of your cousins, don't let me spell his name for
> you!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>
>
> Nemesis Yanks
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Wed, 26 Jan 2011 14:04:17 -0600
> From: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: FW: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
>
> To: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>
> Suntou, this is a second attempt to seek clarification as to the Mr. Sambou
> you referenced below.
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe
>
> ------------------------------
> From: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: RE: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 21:47:59 -0600
>
> Suntou, someone alerted me to your mail regarding your reference to a Mr.
> Sambou as a bad apple.  Since my last name is Sambou, I was just wondering
> the Mr. Sambou you are referring to (his first name).
>
> "Sulayman Darboe, Mr Sambou and some others are perfect examples of bad
> apples who can't stand the heat."
>
> Thanks
>
> Joe
>
>
>
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> Date: Fri, 21 Jan 2011 11:55:14 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
> Subject: Re: Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what
> is your role? Falaye in mind
> To: [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
>
> Badou
> A week is a long time in politics and talking about unity, Falaye is aware
> of things happening under his nose, hence zip it on that. We have enough
> weekly Tele conference with every serious UDP member in Diaspora every
> Saturday for two to three hours.
> Whoever have a serious issue to discuss, the platform is there adequately.
> However, you don't have to claim you are PDOIS or APRC. I understand some
> can sit tightly on the fence and wish for a level playing field devoid of
> harassment, human rights abuses, equal access to TV, Radio and a free press
> etc without being part of any political group. This is possible and I know
> brothers who are working toward such goal. I have attended demos with some
> of this folks.
> However, you cannot curtail any discussion here or any where in the cyber
> space. Referring to Rambo's conduct can include all those who did what he
> just copy. His predecessors are many and there will be others. It is the
> reality of dictatorship.
> This is prevalent in Sudan, Algeria, Syria, The South Americas and Africa.
> Even in Europe people cross carpet, however, for those, they do it with good
> intentions, not knowingly join a criminal organisation that at best operate
> a shadow government.
>
> Sulayman Darboe, Mr Sambou and some others are perfect examples of bad
> apples who can't stand the heat. Falaye on the hand is destructive and
> countering the efforts of his so-call party. If he is not satisfy with the
> party's choice of candidate, doesn't he know what he should have done?
> Genuine Democrat who oppose Obama during the primaries rally round him after
> his selection. You try to work out things inside your camp. Do I think that,
> you will find any problem with his double standard misninforation, I don't
> think so.
> There is no need to create a false myriad. Falaye should air his grievances
> directly to the UDP executives, UDP able youth leaders, MPs, Yayai Compins,
> etc. He may influence things through that.
> I careless what you have to say about the UDP. I have no problem with the
> criticism of those who are not calling themselves UDP members. But you don't
> build a house and slowly start setting fire to it. I have listened to Falaye
> on a couple of occasion, sometimes I thought Pa doesn't have any other
> independent voice to speak with about the UDP instead of the duo who are
> seriously disconnected with current affairs of the party.
> No wonder Sedia and Halifa said, we "youths in Diaspora know nothing about
> the situations on the ground." Their assertions that, we criticise them
> without lending any form of support is true. Obama raises his campaign funds
> from ordinary people and donors. Who is donating to counter the Yahya Jammeh
> free bank? How many Gambians will decline a D50,000 when offered on
> political grounds? Come on, who will? Let alone when the amount is
> in hundreds of thousand.
> Now, we in the opposition don't have any such money, but we can at least
> fuel our vehicles, visit supporters country wide, attend their ceremonies,
> talk to them. This is the slow process that can counter Yahya. Gambians are
> not militant in a serious way. Calling for mass demonstration is a far fetch
> idea. Let us speak with the opposition leaders, encourage them to visit
> voters, donate to PDOIS, UDP, NRP. The easy blame game is only absolving us
> of involvement, yet when folks who spend their own resources, sacrifice it
> all for change commence to be corrupt we renew another line of attack.
> Gambians can't have their cake and eat. Ghana, Nigeria have companies now
> that can do the Europe-America political donations, we don't. South African
> has businesses that donate heavily to political parties, we don't. The few
> individual donations are not enough to counter Jammeh's long hands. We all
> see him shamelessly handing raw cash on TV. Is this kind of politics new?
> Hell no. PPP big wigs use to do it, Jammeh took it to a higher level, with
> maximum exposure. Then it use to be bags of rice, few hundreds.
> Let us continue blaming the opposition, it will bring miracles. Yes, they
> need to be reminded of the urgency we are all facing. But what is your part
> in it. You don't even have to back any opposition by name, just scramble for
> votes for them in your own way. The military are enjoying for now. Can we
> depend on them to rid us of Yahya, it is a wait and see. How of them do we
> have with us in Diaspora and how many have we ever heard making plans to do
> the revolution for us? God is our saving grace, He is always with us, and
> him Him let us depend and do our quorter. Thanks
> Suntou
>
> On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:56 AM, Banura Samba <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
> > wrote:
>
>  Suntou, I think you need some background information before jumping into
> conclusion that I am a PDOIS supporter. I have no idea what you talking
> about. I think you are talking out of  paranoia and confirmation
> bias.Talking about Sulayman Darboe's defection to APRC is not the issue
> here, we talking about Rambo. I think we should be looking for solutions to
> avoid future defections of our party militants than picking bones with other
> people.
>
> I think you need to do your home work very well  before jumping into
> slippery conclusions who belongs to UDP or PDOIS.  From your statement below
> I came to understand that you are new in UDP if not you would have known the
> immense contribution Falaye did for the UDP party as a whole.  I think you ,
> as you claimed yourself as the UDP coordinator  in UK should have engaged
> yourself  with unification process  than dividing people. As a  party or
> individual aspiring to lead our nation , you must be ready to be patient,
> tolerant, apologetic and above all accommodating all types of innuendos.
> Veritably,  you are looking for peoples' support and people are not looking
> for your support.   Falaye, I know since the hay days of  1996 is without
> qualm a die-heart supporter of UDP. I have witness this with my eye, as
> recent as 2009 Falaye have hosted and organized a meeting  for  UDP  in  New
> york. So what are you talking about here, brother?
>
>
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> *From:* suntou touray <[log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
> >
> *To:* [log in to unmask]<http:[log in to unmask]>
> *Sent:* Thu, January 20, 2011 5:41:23 AM
>
> *Subject:* Opposition defection and those claiming they are dead.. what is
> your role? Falaye in mind
>
> Haruna
> I thought each of the opposition parties and the ruling APRC has witness
> cross carpeters over the years. Hence Badou is miss informed on his party's
> cross carpeted folks. I can recall Sulayman Darboe, a young candidate for
> PDOIS who rented in our home and then deflected to APRC, One Mr Sambou who
> left PDOIS even went on to reveal Halifa's eating habits.
> Rambo with all due respect was chosen as the youth leader as a gesture to
> his suffering and the outward potentials he demonstrated.
> The party was alerted by a good member in Bakau on Rambo's shortermism
> agenda. He was monitored and sidelined. Our Youth leaders have toured the
> country twice without him.
> He never toured with the youth leaders, hence we were prepared for his
> actions.
> It is sad to see his short term ambitions get ahead of his sound reasoning.
> However, Rambo whatever compel him to join the slow killer of sick HIV
> victims, shall surface clearly later.
>
> This brings me to the frequent chat on Freedom radio by a guys call Falaye
> Baldeh. This man is calling himself a UDP supporter whilst he knows he is
> not. His assume commentator title on Gambian politics is fair game but let
> him be honest and call him what he is.
> Serious supporters of UDP advise the party through the internal mechanism.
> Falaye will not divulge on his marital woes in the open, he will not relate
> his short coming in the opening, why does he think calling himself a UDP
> supporter and never hesitating to say rubbish will do?
> If he is so militant, what stops him traveling to Gambia, mobilising the
> supporters and youths and face Jammeh?
> What money does the opposition have that Falaye is talking about? We know
> who is pushing him with the pretentious blah blah. Politics like all human
> relations goes through ups and downs, but to hide behind friendly lines
> whilst being an enemy is the lowest case of evil manifestation. He is
> entitled to his opinion, but please let him speak as non-UDP supporter, so
> that, his criticism will make sense, instead of taking serious listeners for
> a fool. He has left trails and his associate have also left trails.
> When did Falaye extended his hand of support to the UDP?
> When did Falaye wrote or spoke to the Executives on his worries and
> suggestions?
>
> If Falaye thinks that our opposition should invite Jammeh to a street
> fight, I will expect him to travel and join in the preparation of such a
> move.
> The oppositions can do with the support, encouragement, criticism and
> presence of all those calling them dead. What have you done to enliven the
> dead oppositions?
> What suggestions have you demonstrated to tackle the dictator with a gun,
> tank and foreigners ready to kill for him and escape to the other side?
> Instead of crying Woolf, be constructive, join the line, fight. How much
> money did Obama get and spent to get to the White House? You are unwilling
> to act and yet quick to blame. How much support did Ouattara get financially
> to move around Ivory Coast? People were ready to spend to make them travel.
> Going on the streets on Banjul, Serrekunda can make a difference, but
> politically, how do you expect the opposition to fund their campaigns well
> before elections. Western Democracies have state funding, yet we want
> democracy but not with our direct involvement. Your advise is as good as
> your loyalty and dedication to assist, then you can blame.
>
> Falaye is pretending on the Freedom radio. His crocodile tears makes no
> sense. The UDP allows, encourage constructive criticism by its members,
> channel through the party hierarchy. If the likes of Falaye are not helping
> strengthen the base of the oppositions, that have no access to the radio,
> Television, money, and hardly any editor will publish critical comments
> about the regime, what help do such an opposition require?
> Gambia is not the property of any opposition politician, hence those
> unhappy are welcome to form their warrior party and lead the charge,
> hopefully, our hunt for martyrs will happily come to pass. In Tunis, people
> were ready to act, they didn't just sit in far places enjoying the niceties
> and continue saying things, they went out. With or without the opposition,
> it is a fact that, people can act. What are Gambians waiting for? You can be
> the martyr if you chose, we will happily inscribe you on our chest. Come out
> guys!!!
>
> This is not to say, their are no rooms for improvement, however, do your
> quoter as well. Everyone needs some form of encouragement in dealing with
> difficult political climate. Partisans will obvious be critical of each
> other, but members within the same party require a civilise constructive
> internal process of dealing with grievances not the Judaising form of
> retributions. What our tongues twist, our hearts manifest.
> Suntou
>
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