Daffeh, you are sounding too desperate to me.  I am no longer interested in coalition anything much more your silly analysis.  You have by now realized that Jemus will embarrass your ilk with a shellacking and instead of worrying about that, you embark on this silly name dropping. I thought this was a partisan brawl?  Like I said, you are too full of yourself.  You have a response for every damn thing about the UDP before it is uttered.  If this is a UDP v. PDOIS brawl, why the hell can't you fight your brawl?  If you had not included my name in your this nonsense, I would have never discussed it.  Joe is not worried about 2011, for I have started a while back looking beyond 2011.  I tell you what, keep it up, when I'm fed up with your silly tantrums, I shall give you the distraction you are yearning for in full.   A warning to the moralizers.  Please when that happens, save me the Maslaa.  Daffeh, I am now waiting for you or any partisan to attempt top drag me to any silliness.  Please just humor me!

Joe 
Date: Sat, 30 Apr 2011 10:53:17 +0100
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Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
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Like I said before, coalitions are not negotiated in the media but behind closed doors. There is a reason why the GMC came out with a statement of intent and one of it is because they have been engaged by the udp. OJ too will not certainly say he was not engaged by the udp nor will Hamat. These are the people/parties who willingly met us at the table. PDOIS on the other hand, crudely refused to do so and therefore, no proposal either verbal or written will be extended to them unless they agreed to meet the UDP at the table.

 

I am not going to respond to Demba Baldeh as he is a clueless attention seeker.

 

Pa samba, I have realised the need for a coalition with or without pdois since day one. When I first joined STGDP conference calls, this is the first thing I said.  Musa Jeng very reluctantly gave a qualified support to the idea while that naive Banka manneh and the hysteric Joe sambou were like what?

 

 I repeat once again, the udp will not put any proposal in the media to feed anybody's obsession. Our proposal will only be presented to parties who agree to meet us at the table, period. This is how coalitions are negotiated and it is the route we followed with the other parties i.e. PPP, GMC and NRP. I wonder why pdois should be given a different treatment.

 

UDP is very much aware of the fact that the other opposition parties and leaders are not baskets that we can put on our head and carry along. They have to be willing to come alone with us and if they choose not to, well there is nothing we can do about that.

 

I am not aware of any concession demand from OJ’s P.P.P that is not met by the UDP neither did I hear any declaration of intent by PDOIS, to be part of a UDP led alliance with conditions attached.

 

PDOIS is much about their Ayatollah’s Agenda 1444 and the gratification of his persona than anything else.

 

           

 

Kind Regards

Daffeh



On 30 April 2011 10:17, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Musa
 
It is unbecoming of you to allege that Daffeh is in the "payroll of Jammeh". I am worried because I heard a similar sentiment on Freedom Radio by one Alhajie, one of Mr Mbai's regular pundits on Gambian affairs. He claimed, no swore, that Ousainou Darboe is in the pay of the Professor
 
Daffeh may hold views opposite to yours, but calling him "clueless" is not persuasive at all, and alleging he works for the Professor exposes you more than him.
 
You have a record to protect, and I suggest you do so objectively. You should not see yourself as under any compulsion to respond to Daffeh.
 
 
 
 
 
 
LJDarbo  

--- On Sat, 30/4/11, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
To: [log in to unmask]
Date: Saturday, 30 April, 2011, 1:17



Oh Lord! there he goes again, the Man really needs help. These are the kind of rhetoric and people who are the very stubmling bloc to bring an end to tyranny; it is not farfetched to entertain that people like him are in the payroll of Jammeh, or they are just clueless.
 
Thanks
Musa Jeng
 
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Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:59:42 PM
Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!

It is high time that we acknowledge that fact that due to Halifa Sallah's arrogance and intransigence, a coalition of all opposition parties to confront Jammeh in 2011 is not possible to achieve. The focus should therefore shift to building a coalition of the willing instead.
 
The irrational opposition bashing that has become the hallmark of forum discussions is only playing in the hands of jammeh and giving him a political boost that he doesn't deserve.
 
Thanks
Daffeh

On 29 April 2011 22:47, UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Kejaw, here is what I don't get, why does a coalition have to have PDOIS and UDP before it matters? Why couldn't the UDP bring everybody else on board, get on the road campaign seriously with PPP, NRP,and GMC and show the world they have everybody else but PDOIS and see how much pressure will be on PDOIS. Why wait for a skeptical partner to start working with everybody else.
Why does UDP think everybody else will rally around them when Amat and GMC are going about doing their own thing? Forget about PDOIS after all people don't many think they only control 3% of the electorate!!! What is the hold up???? - Demba
 
This is exactly what we intend to do. None of the other parties were dismissive of us in our discussions with them and I hope they will come along with us down this route. PEOPLE should be inclined to support a coalition with or without PDOIS and move on with the progressive agenda of nation building. This what the UDP UK has always advocated for but much to the annoyance of some particularly in the STGDP camp. So clearly, this is demba baldeh preaching to the choir.
 
thanks
Daffeh



On 29 April 2011 22:17, <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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'UDP should have supported the opposition candidate and ask for for the coalition leadership in return. But another missed opportunity gone. I hope the opposition leadership learn the bitter lesson of defeat.' kejau  
 
I agree and there was inclination to do exactly that. However,  you will agree with me that such a move must have to be worked out and coordinated with PDOIS/NADD fiirst. Unfortunately, they have persistently refused to talk to the UDP despite been chased on almost all lines of communications. So how can the UDP make concessions to people who keep telling us we don't wanna hear you; go talk to the electorates. Well, we will talk to the electorates and but it will be about selling our manifesto to them.
 
Kejau, you have deliberately chosen to ignore the facts. You are merely engaged in essay writing. You better ask Musa Jeng; he was aware of the efforts UDP had made to extend a concession to PDOIS as was stated by [not in detail] Karamba Touray in STGDP organised conference call. Even today, if pdois accept udp's offer of talks, they will be engaged and concessions given. That is for sure. I say it because I know it. People should stop making sweeping statements and try to dig into the facts start. UDP's offer of talks is still on the table and it is up to PDOIS to accept it. We cannot force them to do so.
 
I am aware that the expectation of certain people here is for UDP to throw out something in the media to feed the academic obsession of a certain few who will in turn engender an irrational squabble over it. Well, that is not going to happen. Coalitions are not negotiated in the media but behind close doors- I have sure you you do remember  UK's coalition negotiations. It was done in the Cabinet office and behind close doors. It was only after a final settlement was reached that a joint statement was put out in the media- and that is the convention the UDP will follow. However, if there is to be any coalition negotiation involving Pdois and UDP, our party will be more that happy to put out a statement at the end of that process regardless of its outcome, whether positive or negative.
 
In my view, there was no miss opportunity in the Wuli east bye-election. It is just a question of a well determined PDOIS to perpetuate a fait accompli.
 
Thanks
Daffeh

 
On 29 April 2011 15:52, [log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]> wrote:
It's got to be the voter turnout. Without the coalition the voters will boycott again. So get your acts together and form a coalition otherwise it will be another apathy. Merely talking to the other parties  may not be enough, instead make concessions and give assurances.  UDP should have supported the opposition candidate and ask for for the coalition leadership in return. But another missed opportunity gone. I hope the opposition leadership learn the bitter lesson of defeat.   

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On 29 Apr 2011, at 15:34, Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Suntou
 
I have to commend you for your honest appraisal of the situation. Defeat at Wuli was a defeat for all stakeholders within the Opposition. We therefore need to sit down and study the situation as to how we can avoid a much awaited embarassment on 24 November 2011.
 
The figures shown last night is warning call for all us to think again and explore to the maximum the prospects of having a United Opposition against APRC.
 
Good weekend
 
Sanusi
 


--- On Fri, 29/4/11, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]> wrote:

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Subject: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
To: [log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask], [log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]
Date: Friday, 29 April, 2011, 15:14

This is a disappointing news for our area people. Wulli East area has always gone for the incumbent party, since the times of Sainey Singhateh, Malang Saho etc. Wulli West is the more determine and militant region of the two. Suwaibou is well known in that area, I wonder what he should do to penetrate the elders and their local structures. I am sad for him, because he would have been a good MP.
I wonder whether his campaign team made use of the more active militants in Nyaikoi area. The signs were there that, going for the incumbent is a harden mole in Wulli East, I thought the Agenda 2011 would have dislodged such mindsets. Seriously, I was expecting a narrow marginal win for Suwaibou, but hey next time. I wish him all the best for the upcoming general elections.
Suntou

On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:13 PM, M. Gassama <[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Hi!
The results have just been announced on GRTS confirming Gainako's
figures. Have a good evening.
Buharry.

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Date: 2011-04-28 23:52
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Subj: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!

Unofficial results of the bye-elections in Wuli East has been
leaked!

Results at: http://www.gainako.com/news/
Thanks

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