Hey, what I have been saying all along is now coming to terms. Recall, 2006,
same old debate. In the end UDP disappointed all. Same this time....
On Apr 30, 2011 12:00 PM, "[log in to unmask]" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Sad, really sad. Daffeh calling everyone inadequate when you question
UDP's stance. Much like fankung.
>
> Sent from Kejau's iPhone
>
> On 30 Apr 2011, at 10:53, UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
>
>> Like I said before, coalitions are not negotiated in the media but behind
closed doors. There is a reason why the GMC came out with a statement of
intent and one of it is because they have been engaged by the udp. OJ too
will not certainly say he was not engaged by the udp nor will Hamat. These
are the people/parties who willingly met us at the table. PDOIS on the other
hand, crudely refused to do so and therefore, no proposal either verbal or
written will be extended to them unless they agreed to meet the UDP at the
table.
>>
>> I am not going to respond to Demba Baldeh as he is a clueless attention
seeker.
>>
>> Pa samba, I have realised the need for a coalition with or without pdois
since day one. When I first joined STGDP conference calls, this is the first
thing I said. Musa Jeng very reluctantly gave a qualified support to the
idea while that naive Banka manneh and the hysteric Joe sambou were like
what?
>>
>> I repeat once again, the udp will not put any proposal in the media to
feed anybody's obsession. Our proposal will only be presented to parties who
agree to meet us at the table, period. This is how coalitions are negotiated
and it is the route we followed with the other parties i.e. PPP, GMC and
NRP. I wonder why pdois should be given a different treatment.
>>
>> UDP is very much aware of the fact that the other opposition parties and
leaders are not baskets that we can put on our head and carry along. They
have to be willing to come alone with us and if they choose not to, well
there is nothing we can do about that.
>>
>> I am not aware of any concession demand from OJ’s P.P.P that is not met
by the UDP neither did I hear any declaration of intent by PDOIS, to be part
of a UDP led alliance with conditions attached.
>>
>> PDOIS is much about their Ayatollah’s Agenda 1444 and the gratification
of his persona than anything else.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind Regards
>> Daffeh
>>
>>
>>
>> On 30 April 2011 10:17, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Musa
>>
>> It is unbecoming of you to allege that Daffeh is in the "payroll of
Jammeh". I am worried because I heard a similar sentiment on Freedom Radio
by one Alhajie, one of Mr Mbai's regular pundits on Gambian affairs. He
claimed, no swore, that Ousainou Darboe is in the pay of the Professor
>>
>> Daffeh may hold views opposite to yours, but calling him "clueless" is
not persuasive at all, and alleging he works for the Professor exposes you
more than him.
>>
>> You have a record to protect, and I suggest you do so objectively. You
should not see yourself as under any compulsion to respond to Daffeh.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> LJDarbo
>>
>> --- On Sat, 30/4/11, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> From: [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]>
>>
>> Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Saturday, 30 April, 2011, 1:17
>>
>>
>>
>> Oh Lord! there he goes again, the Man really needs help. These are the
kind of rhetoric and people who are the very stubmling bloc to bring an end
to tyranny; it is not farfetched to entertain that people like him are in
the payroll of Jammeh, or they are just clueless.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Musa Jeng
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "UDP United Kingdom" <[log in to unmask]>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>> Sent: Friday, April 29, 2011 5:59:42 PM
>> Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
>>
>> It is high time that we acknowledge that fact that due to Halifa Sallah's
arrogance and intransigence, a coalition of all opposition parties to
confront Jammeh in 2011 is not possible to achieve. The focus should
therefore shift to building a coalition of the willing instead.
>>
>> The irrational opposition bashing that has become the hallmark of forum
discussions is only playing in the hands of jammeh and giving him a
political boost that he doesn't deserve.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Daffeh
>>
>> On 29 April 2011 22:47, UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]>
wrote:
>> Kejaw, here is what I don't get, why does a coalition have to have PDOIS
and UDP before it matters? Why couldn't the UDP bring everybody else on
board, get on the road campaign seriously with PPP, NRP,and GMC and show the
world they have everybody else but PDOIS and see how much pressure will be
on PDOIS. Why wait for a skeptical partner to start working with everybody
else.
>> Why does UDP think everybody else will rally around them when Amat and
GMC are going about doing their own thing? Forget about PDOIS after all
people don't many think they only control 3% of the electorate!!! What is
the hold up???? - Demba
>>
>> This is exactly what we intend to do. None of the other parties were
dismissive of us in our discussions with them and I hope they will come
along with us down this route. PEOPLE should be inclined to support a
coalition with or without PDOIS and move on with the progressive agenda of
nation building. This what the UDP UK has always advocated for but much to
the annoyance of some particularly in the STGDP camp. So clearly, this is
demba baldeh preaching to the choir.
>>
>> thanks
>> Daffeh
>>
>>
>>
>> On 29 April 2011 22:17, <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Demba
>> Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile
>> From: UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]>
>> Sender: [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Fri, 29 Apr 2011 19:20:44 +0100
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> ReplyTo: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
>>
>>
>> 'UDP should have supported the opposition candidate and ask for for the
coalition leadership in return. But another missed opportunity gone. I hope
the opposition leadership learn the bitter lesson of defeat.' kejau
>>
>> I agree and there was inclination to do exactly that. However, you will
agree with me that such a move must have to be worked out and coordinated
with PDOIS/NADD fiirst. Unfortunately, they have persistently refused to
talk to the UDP despite been chased on almost all lines of communications.
So how can the UDP make concessions to people who keep telling us we don't
wanna hear you; go talk to the electorates. Well, we will talk to the
electorates and but it will be about selling our manifesto to them.
>>
>> Kejau, you have deliberately chosen to ignore the facts. You are merely
engaged in essay writing. You better ask Musa Jeng; he was aware of the
efforts UDP had made to extend a concession to PDOIS as was stated by [not
in detail] Karamba Touray in STGDP organised conference call. Even today, if
pdois accept udp's offer of talks, they will be engaged and concessions
given. That is for sure. I say it because I know it. People should stop
making sweeping statements and try to dig into the facts start. UDP's offer
of talks is still on the table and it is up to PDOIS to accept it. We cannot
force them to do so.
>>
>> I am aware that the expectation of certain people here is for UDP to
throw out something in the media to feed the academic obsession of a certain
few who will in turn engender an irrational squabble over it. Well, that is
not going to happen. Coalitions are not negotiated in the media but behind
close doors- I have sure you you do remember UK's coalition negotiations. It
was done in the Cabinet office and behind close doors. It was only after a
final settlement was reached that a joint statement was put out in the
media- and that is the convention the UDP will follow. However, if there is
to be any coalition negotiation involving Pdois and UDP, our party will be
more that happy to put out a statement at the end of that process regardless
of its outcome, whether positive or negative.
>>
>> In my view, there was no miss opportunity in the Wuli east bye-election.
It is just a question of a well determined PDOIS to perpetuate a fait
accompli.
>>
>> Thanks
>> Daffeh
>>
>>
>> On 29 April 2011 15:52, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> It's got to be the voter turnout. Without the coalition the voters will
boycott again. So get your acts together and form a coalition otherwise it
will be another apathy. Merely talking to the other parties may not be
enough, instead make concessions and give assurances. UDP should have
supported the opposition candidate and ask for for the coalition leadership
in return. But another missed opportunity gone. I hope the opposition
leadership learn the bitter lesson of defeat.
>>
>> Sent from Kejau's iPhone
>>
>> On 29 Apr 2011, at 15:34, Sanusi Owens <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> Suntou
>>
>> I have to commend you for your honest appraisal of the situation. Defeat
at Wuli was a defeat for all stakeholders within the Opposition. We
therefore need to sit down and study the situation as to how we can avoid a
much awaited embarassment on 24 November 2011.
>>
>> The figures shown last night is warning call for all us to think again
and explore to the maximum the prospects of having a United Opposition
against APRC.
>>
>> Good weekend
>>
>> Sanusi
>>
>>
>>
>> --- On Fri, 29/4/11, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subject: [>-<] Re: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
>> To: [log in to unmask], [log in to unmask]
>> Date: Friday, 29 April, 2011, 15:14
>>
>> This is a disappointing news for our area people. Wulli East area has
always gone for the incumbent party, since the times of Sainey Singhateh,
Malang Saho etc. Wulli West is the more determine and militant region of the
two. Suwaibou is well known in that area, I wonder what he should do to
penetrate the elders and their local structures. I am sad for him, because
he would have been a good MP.
>> I wonder whether his campaign team made use of the more active militants
in Nyaikoi area. The signs were there that, going for the incumbent is a
harden mole in Wulli East, I thought the Agenda 2011 would have dislodged
such mindsets. Seriously, I was expecting a narrow marginal win for
Suwaibou, but hey next time. I wish him all the best for the upcoming
general elections.
>> Suntou
>>
>> On Thu, Apr 28, 2011 at 11:13 PM, M. Gassama <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> Hi!
>> The results have just been announced on GRTS confirming Gainako's
>> figures. Have a good evening.
>> Buharry.
>>
>> ----Original Message----
>> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Date: 2011-04-28 23:52
>> To: <[log in to unmask]>
>> Subj: Unofficial results of the Bye-elections leaked!!!
>>
>> Unofficial results of the bye-elections in Wuli East has been
>> leaked!
>>
>> Results at: http://www.gainako.com/news/
>> Thanks
>>
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