Haruna, I will ignore you as you seem to be one wayfaring. Living in an utopia, supporting what ever crap Sountoukung throws out here. So we set the pace for journalistic integrity for the rest of world,even if we are the foundation of mankind on this earth, our democracy is so substandard that it will be wise to follow laws and customs and not impose rules on others based on Sountou's fantasy. You seem to be raring for a fight, I do not have time for that, its an election year and too busy, but thanks anyway. Stop getting me started, Roon, otherwise I like you too. Kejau. Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 16:04:11 -0400 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [G_L] What Are Suntu's Standards? To: [log in to unmask] Kejau is wayfaring. The fact that journalists are not neutral, independent, or unbiased anywhere in the world does not take away from the values of independent thought and journalistic integrity. Kejau you need to check your faculties of sobriety. Otherwise I like you. If you do not reconsider your position, you'll be the winner in the race to the bottom. Haruna. -----Original Message----- From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Wed, Jul 6, 2011 11:55 am Subject: Re: [G_L] What Are Suntu's Standards? Keaju Sadly you jump before looking. Where did i said we should not take alignment from the West on the media matters? I think if you haven't cloud your comment before hand, you'll notice that, what I am alluding to is simply that, if we too reach the level where our institutions can operate without fear of interference from Head Of state and the like, no one will worry about the neutrality and the independence of the Press. However, many a time, folk rush and analyse without looking at deeper reasoning which leads to blind conclusion. In mature democracies, institutions like the courts or the Judicial system can dispense justice against whoever, whilst in our case such cannot happen. The police cannot be use to harass individuals base on their political leanings. If we have reach such level, let an editor openly proclaim the Lordship of a politician of his/her choice. The poeple and the system can accomodate it effortlessly, that is what I meant. Yet you try to take my remarks to an angle completely unrelated. Any how, thanks for yoru valuable comment. Suntou On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:49 AM, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote: Suntou: I did mention here about your protest that papers and journalists should be neutral which is found no where in the world. The utopia you seem to be so clinging to is your found only in your imagination. You said we should not take alignment from the west as they have mature democracies, so who or what do we take as the yardstick? Suntou's? Ndey has all rights just like you, to join any group and it is even desirable that such high profile people take sides in politics. Sent from Kejau's iPhone On 5 Jul 2011, at 14:22, A Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Suntu: > I correctly predicted that the next words off your blabs are that I a member of CCG. Go ahead, call a press conference and satisfy your orgies. Such is your manner of thinking. You like to make things up in your head. > > However, I cannot and do not intend to judge you as a person. Rather the inherent danger in the way you insist and fabricate ideas in your head and put those forward as irrefutable facts. You tend to present yourself, either naively or intentionally, as the most neutral person ever, the most daring ever, the most straightforward when it comes to issues relating how Gambians fight their plight. You present yourself as if you are the one who sets the standards for all to follow. > > With that in mind, I will take a few lines from your most recent posting and follow up with simple questions for you to answer. With this exercise, I am hoping we can all get to know the real Suntu or at least have a better glimpse into how you process your thoughts to help us understand what you are trying to tell us. I truly believe that you are either way too misunderstood because you think faster and wider than everyone else; or you are outright malicious in your uncanny knack for making stuff up. > > Please indulge me: > > 1- You wrote: “…the hopes of our democracy's future depends on the impartiality of our press.” > What is Suntu’s standard(s) for “impartiality of our press?” > > 2- “But that is what live politics breed...individuals always want to take glory whilst the Shack is attacking...” > Can you please share with us the names of the individuals who “always want to take glory…?” And the circumstances you are referring to? > > 3- “....the reason certain newspapers cannot do justice to opposition parties is because they are actively competing with them in other avenues.” > Which newspapers “are actively competing with…” and what is your standard for “doing justice” to opposition parties? > > 4- “….we need our newspapers and the journalist to be free and balance, newspapers and the journalist should control or understand the stage of our politics.” > What is your standard for a journalist to be “free and balance” and how do you think newspapers and journalist are going to be able to “control and understand the stage of our politics.” > > Suntu, in the interest of clarity and fair exchange, I, and I hope many on this forum, would like to know the answers to the questions I posed. If you feel you do not need to answer these questions, then I will have to make my own conclusions on the quoted statements based on how I understand them. 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