Kejau
Sadly, you are failing to discern without borrowing from those intent on falsifying what is obvious. So much gikan buyaa...I wonder if you are trying to say too I don't care about Amadou? If so, you need helping on many issues. What I am against is those who wish to pretend that, the organisation rambling about on Dr Janneh have done certain things that could have avoided the scenario,
Whilst the over the top pretense is on going Ala Mandela and the rest of the accolades, a man is held by someone who is no stranger to infiltrating cheap talking Gambians, including member of the arm forces...
Therefore, no one is accepting the unlawful arrest and imprisonment of Dr Janneh. What happen to him is un-called for. We condemned it. However, what you are merging yourself in is that, it is the so-call friends of Dr janneh that start talking well before anyone knows the heads or tail of his arrest, direct your advise to them.
In simple terms, this is not about Dr Janneh, it is about his friends who are where? try to figure that out before siding with those unwilling to let those fact emerge.
 
1. You are suppose to a military expert, how do you think the public can capably rise up against a despotic regime?
2. Kejau, you were train in a prestigious military academy, please tell us, how many Gambian soldier are arrested without a shot being fired on suppose allegations that, they want to over throw Jammeh? and What is your solution to militarily dislodging Jammeh, that can be the easy and quick option. The Ivorians did it, It happen in Guinea Conakry, so please educate us on that.
3. Do you think one man can ably urge a sleeping public to rise up with helpers thousand of miles away?
So please don't even dare assume that, some of  us who see the larger issues of Dr Janneh's plight don't sympathise with him and his family. And beside, you can even believe in that hype if you want.
Suntou

On Thu, Jul 7, 2011 at 11:45 AM, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
That's the magic word. Temporally seizing to work as a journalist not permanently as you seem to think. Sometimes what you write falls into wrong hands and endanger lives. Remember asking about invetogating Laye Fish even though he is down in jail for treason. What goes around comes around so be careful Balanba you should call yourself as it seems you never agree so I quit trying to convince you. Just remember next time someone is jailed by Yaya think before you write. 

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On 7 Jul 2011, at 11:09, suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

Kejau
Good to see that, you have picked up some stuff from our exchanges. I was making the same points you made. If a journalist compete in politics, do you think he will write things about his rivals that can undermine his/her efforts?
Remember when former BBC corespondent contested as an Independent candidate, he stop journalism for that period. However, when Editors and Proprietors wine and dine with senior politicians, do you think they will not be compromise? The issue is, we can disagree, mud slide, but what remain factual is that, if the head of a media organisation engages with people whose interest is power, he/she will slowly erode the principles and ethics of her profession.
You cannot eat your cake and have it. Thanks in any case. Read Peter Oborne's take on media I forwarded.
Bolonba

On Wed, Jul 6, 2011 at 8:49 PM, Kejau Touray <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Sutnou, 

Independence, professional, fair reporting and unbiased coverage is a prequisite for any media. That is why they are called the fourth estate, the other three being the judges, the government and the parliament. In the same vein the constitution preserves the rights of individual to form peaceful associations and meet and disseminate their ideas without interference from work or government. That is a fundamental and an absolute right and it is and has to be different from your professional role, if you choose to be an employee or even a journalist. Not everyone can be a businessman or a practitioner, to enter politics, do they? That is why we have ethics, some administrative rules and regulations that govern those professional actions and the rule of law to ensure people should excuse themselves if they have interest in some cases. 
You see not everything is black and white. This is the same bullshit, excuse my french, that Yaya uses to fire civil servants and control the whole executive. You cannot go to party or be members of a party or any group for that matter as it will interfere with your duties! Think about it for once. This is partly why we are in this mess. Politics has to be limited to a few entrepreneurs only, the chosen few in The Gambia, as you cannot even have a job in the bank, lest the bankers are labelled disloyal to the dictator.   

Good positive action for talking to Malick. Touray never let down! 

Thanks/




Date: Wed, 6 Jul 2011 08:55:14 -0700
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [G_L] What Are Suntu's Standards?
To: [log in to unmask]


Keaju
Sadly you jump before looking. Where did i said we should not take alignment from the West on the media matters? I think if you haven't cloud your comment before hand, you'll notice that, what I am alluding to is simply that, if we too reach the level where our institutions can operate without fear of interference from Head Of state and the like, no one will worry about the neutrality and the independence of the Press.
However, many a time, folk rush and analyse without looking at deeper reasoning which leads to blind conclusion.
In mature democracies, institutions like the courts or the Judicial system can dispense justice against whoever, whilst in our case such cannot happen. The police cannot be use to harass individuals base on their political leanings. If we have reach such level, let an editor openly proclaim the Lordship of a politician of his/her choice. The poeple and the system can accomodate it effortlessly, that is what I meant.
Yet you try to take my remarks to an angle completely unrelated. Any how, thanks for yoru valuable comment.
Suntou

On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 9:49 AM, [log in to unmask] <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Suntou:
I did mention here about your protest that papers and journalists should be neutral which is found no where in the world. The utopia you seem to be so clinging to is your found only in your imagination. You said we should not take alignment from the west as they have mature democracies, so who or what do we take as the yardstick? Suntou's?
Ndey has all rights just like you, to join any group and it is even desirable that such high profile people take sides in politics.

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On 5 Jul 2011, at 14:22, A Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> Suntu:
> I correctly predicted that the next words off your blabs are that I a member of CCG. Go ahead, call a press conference and satisfy your orgies. Such is your manner of thinking. You like to make things up in your head.
>
> However, I cannot and do not intend to judge you as a person. Rather the inherent danger in the way you insist and fabricate ideas in your head and put those forward as irrefutable facts. You tend to present yourself, either naively or intentionally, as the most neutral person ever, the most daring ever, the most straightforward when it comes to issues relating how Gambians fight their plight. You present yourself as if you are the one who sets the standards for all to follow.
>
> With that in mind, I will take a few lines from your most recent posting and follow up with simple questions for you to answer. With this exercise, I am hoping we can all get to know the real Suntu or at least have a better glimpse into how you process your thoughts to help us understand what you are trying to tell us. I truly believe that you are either way too misunderstood because you think faster and wider than everyone else; or you are outright malicious in your uncanny knack for making stuff up.
>
> Please indulge me:
>
> 1-    You wrote: “…the hopes of our democracy's future depends on the impartiality of our press.”
>         What is Suntu’s standard(s) for “impartiality of our press?”
>
> 2-    “But that is what live politics breed...individuals always want to take glory whilst the Shack is attacking...”
>         Can you please share with us the names of the individuals who “always want to take glory…?” And the   circumstances you are referring to?
>
> 3-    “....the reason certain newspapers cannot do justice to opposition parties is because they are actively competing   with them in other avenues.”
>       Which newspapers “are actively competing with…” and what is your standard for “doing justice” to opposition parties?
>
> 4-    “….we need our newspapers and the journalist to be free and balance, newspapers and the journalist should control or understand the stage of our politics.”
>        What is your standard for a journalist to be “free and balance” and how do you think newspapers and journalist are going to be able to “control and understand the stage of our politics.”
>
> Suntu, in the interest of clarity and fair exchange, I, and I hope many on this forum, would like to know the answers to the questions I posed. If you feel you do not need to answer these questions, then I will have to make my own conclusions on the quoted statements based on how I understand them. Is that fair enough?
>
> -Laye
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