http://www.wsws.org/articles/2011/aug2011/liby-a31.shtml On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:46 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > The link where Bill's crap came from. Thank you in advance Nyamorkono. > > Haruna. > > -----Original Message----- > From: Fye samateh <[log in to unmask]> > To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 4:35 pm > Subject: Re: [G_L] Divisions emerge among Libya’s NATO-led “rebels” > > What link r u talking about. ? > > On Wed, Aug 31, 2011 at 10:20 PM, Haruna Darbo <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > >> Nyamorkono, Thanx for sharing. I have read the clueless Bill Van Auken's >> editorial and in order to assist me in doing background research on "The >> Journal", can you please share with us a link to "The Journal". I want to >> share some ideas with Bill Van Auken but I want to do due-diligence before I >> do so. De-Minimis, Bill of Auken is alarmist. At the extreme, he is a liar >> and could belong to Al-Qaa'Ida of his country of origin. He is totally >> clueless about Al-Qaa'Ida and in this piece of crap he's feeding us, he is >> manufacturing further tribal discord among the great people of Libya just to >> satisfy his own dreams. Which can be found in the title of his boat load of >> shit; [Divisions emerge among Libya’s NATO-led “rebels”]. >> >> Could you please inform this idiot for me (before I share ideas with him), >> that there have been divisions and distinctions in Libya since the nation >> was born and well beforehand. They are called Families, Clans, Tribes, >> Trades Unions, Fraternities, Ummah, Sororities, political parties, and >> student unions. There were divisions in Libya during all of Gadhafi's 42 >> years of Dictatorship in Libya. There have been divisions among Bill Van >> Auken's (for brevity sakes, I'd like to know where this fucker is from) >> country's Families, clans, tribes, Trades Unions, Fraternities, Lodges, >> Sororities, political parties, and student unions. What Van Auken is calling >> "Emergence" is the lifting of the lid tha Gadhafi placed on these divisions >> and sat on it. It was because the pressure exerted by the lid has become >> unbearable for these unique peoples of Libya that they conducted his >> surgical removal in the JAMAHIRIYYA REVOLUTION. The revolution was not meant >> to erase the divisions and distinctions among families, clans, tribes, >> trades unions, fraternities, ummah, lodges, sororities, and students unions >> of Libya. The Revolution was a pressure relief valve to set these great >> people, with all their divisions and distinctions FREE. This idiot Bill >> can't tell a terrorist from a freedom fighter if his life depended on it. He >> invokes 9/11 to achieve his goal of alarming other clueless idiots. >> >> Nyamorkono, I will stop here for now until you share the link to Bill's >> garbage with us. I got more to say to this nincangpooh as our friend Sankara >> is wont to quip. We'll take him back to elementary school so he can be a >> born-again HarunaMo. >> >> Haruna. >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Fye samateh <[log in to unmask]> >> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]> >> Sent: Wed, Aug 31, 2011 8:39 am >> Subject: [G_L] Divisions emerge among Libya’s NATO-led “rebels” >> >> Divisions emerge among Libya’s NATO-led “rebels” By Bill Van Auken >> 31 August 2011 >> With the US and its European allies set to install a puppet regime in >> Libya based on the Benghazi-based National Transitional Council, deep >> divisions have emerged among the NATO-led “rebels”. These divisions, which >> include tensions with elements of Al Qaeda, pose the threat of continued >> fighting between rival factions well after the overthrow of the regime of >> Colonel Muammar Gaddafi is completed. >> The head of Libya’s self-appointed National Transitional Council, who has >> been anointed by the NATO allies as Libya's interim leader, Mustafa Abdul >> Jalil, has yet to set foot in Tripoli, where scattered fighting continues. >> The armed bands that have seized control of the Libyan capital have given >> no indication that they accept the NTC’s authority. Many of these elements, >> drawn from the western mountain region and the city of Misrata, have voiced >> contempt for the collection of ex-Gaddafi ministers, like Jalil, CIA and >> other Western intelligence agency assets, and tribal politicians based in >> Benghazi. >> Among those who have come forward as the leaders of “liberated” Tripoli is >> one Abdelhakim Belhadj, who has described himself as the head of the Tripoli >> Military Council, i.e., the “rebel” military commander. >> As the Arabic daily *Asharq Al-Awsat* noted, Belhadj “is also a former >> Emir of the Libyan Islamic Fighting Group (LIFG), which was banned >> internationally as a terrorist organization following the 9/11 attacks.” >> Belhadj began his career as a jihadist fighting alongside Osama bin Laden >> with the CIA-backed Islamist mujahideen in Afghanistan in 1988. He returned >> to Libya in the 1990s, founding the LIFG and launching an armed insurgency >> against the Gaddafi government. >> It was this insurgency that played a large part in pushing the Gaddafi >> regime toward an accommodation with Washington and the other imperialist >> powers. After the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks, the CIA forged close >> ties with Libyan intelligence, collaborating in the suppression of Al >> Qaeda-linked elements in Libya and throughout the region. >> In the period leading up to 9/11, Belhadj was involved in the running of >> two Al Qaeda training camps in Afghanistan. A number of Libyans went on to >> become Al Qaeda’s top commanders in Afghanistan, including Abu Faraj >> al-Libi, who was captured in 2005, and Abu al-Laith al-Libi, who was killed >> in 2008. >> After the October 2001 invasion of Afghanistan, Belhadj went to Pakistan >> and then to Iraq, where he collaborated with the Al Qaeda leader Abu Musab >> al-Zarqawi. Captured by the CIA in 2003 in Malaysia, he was subjected to >> extraordinary rendition to a secret prison in Thailand where he was >> interrogated under torture. He was then turned over to the Gaddafi regime in >> 2004. In 2010, he was released after he and other LIFG leaders renounced the >> armed struggle, except in invaded Muslim countries, including Iraq, >> Afghanistan and Palestine. >> The presence of Belhadj in the command of “rebels” who have been armed and >> trained by NATO and whose entry into Tripoli was made possible by massive >> NATO bombardments raises a number of disturbing questions. >> Not least of them, of course, is the significance, as the 10th anniversary >> of 9/11 approaches, of the CIA and other Western intelligence agencies >> working intimately with a well-known Al Qaeda operative. On the one hand, it >> exposes the gross fraud of the “global war on terror,” in which two wars of >> aggression were justified on the basis of the need to defeat Al Qaeda. On >> the other hand, it points to the extreme recklessness of US and NATO policy >> in Libya. >> It has been widely reported that the LIFG elements led by Belhadj have >> looted immense amounts of armaments from Gaddafi’s stockpiles, including >> surface-to-air missiles. Their ranks have also been swollen by the freeing >> of prisoners from Libyan jails, among them hundreds of Al Qaeda-linked >> militants. >> Belhadj’s role also calls into sharp question the nature of the >> “democracy” that NATO is helping to install in Libya, in which radical >> Islamists are playing a leading role. >> It is widely believed that Islamist elements around Belhadj were >> responsible for the July 28 assassination of the man then designated as the >> NTC’s military commander, General Abdul Fatah Younis, who defected from the >> Gaddafi regime in late February of this year. >> As Gaddafi’s public security minister, Younis had been intimately involved >> in the suppression of Islamist insurgents in the east of Libya, and it is >> widely believed that these elements took their revenge. It was also reported >> that the Islamists suspected the general because of his ties to NATO and >> opposed his attempts to bring the various armed militias under his command. >> The killing has opened up a deep fissure within the Benghazi-based >> “rebels”. Members of Younis’ powerful Obeidat tribe vowed last weekend that >> they would take their own action if the NTC failed to charge the defector’s >> killers. Representatives of Younis’ family gave the Muslim holiday of Eid, >> marking the end of Ramadan, as the final deadline. The holiday passed on >> Tuesday with no apparent action by the NTC. >> The NTC chief Jalil angered members of the Obeidat tribe last week when he >> announced that action would be taken against Younis’ killers “when the >> higher interests of this revolution will not be damaged.” >> Members of Younis’ family charged that the answer indicated the NTC’s >> subservience to the Islamists. “We need to prevent the tyranny of Gaddafi >> turning into the tyranny of those ideological groups,” Mohammed Hamid, >> Younis' nephew, told Reuters. “There are those who want the country to be >> run by militias like Afghanistan.” >> Reuters commented that the case represented “a steep test” of whether the >> NATO-backed council would prove able to “sidestep tribal fault lines that >> could further destabilize the war-battered and heavily-armed country.” >> Meanwhile, protests broke out in the city of Misrata on Monday after the >> NTC announced a decision to install a former general in Gaddafi’s army, >> Albarrani Shkal, as chief of security in Tripoli. >> Hundreds poured into Misrata’s Martyr’s Square, chanting that the >> appointment of Shkal represented a betrayal of the “blood of the martyrs.” >> Before defecting to the anti-Gaddafi side in May, Shkal is believed to >> have been a senior officer in the 32nd Brigade, commanded by Gaddafi’s son >> Khamis, which played a leading role in the siege of Misrata. >> According to the British *Guardian*: “Misrata's ruling council lodged a >> formal protest with the NTC, saying that if the appointment were confirmed >> Misratan rebel units deployed on security duties in Tripoli would refuse to >> follow NTC orders.” >> “Behind the protests is a wider grudge between Misratans and the NTC, >> which many accuse of representing Benghazi rather than Libyans as a whole,” >> the *Guardian* reported, “Misrata’s military council continues to refuse >> to follow orders from NTC army commanders, and some rebels complain that >> Misrata’s units and those from the Nafusa mountains to the west, have not >> been recognized as having been the key to the fall of Tripoli.” >> The controversy calls into question the heart of the strategy announced by >> the NTC, NATO and the United Nations, which is to reconstitute Gaddafi’s >> security forces along with other state institutions under a new >> Western-backed puppet government. >> Washington and its allies are reportedly determined to “learn the lessons >> of Iraq”, which included the disastrous unraveling of the occupation after >> the Bush administration ordered the disbanding of the Saddam Hussein >> regime’s military and police. Attempting the opposite strategy of keeping >> the old regime’s security forces intact, however, may produce equally >> violent results. >> Another front in which divisions have erupted has provoked disquiet within >> one of the Libyan NATO war’s principal constituencies, the major Western >> energy conglomerates. >> “Tensions have surfaced within Libya’s rebel oil circles,” the *Wall >> Street Journal *reported, “underscoring the complexity of any return to >> normal in the North African nation after its regime change.” >> According to sources cited by the *Journal*, the conflict pits “the rebel >> wing of the National Oil Co., or NOC, and the oil and finance ministry on >> the one side and, on the other side, managers of a local state-owned oil >> company that came under the opposition’s control early, the Arabian Gulf Oil >> Co., or Agoco.” >> The report states that “rebels” in the NOC have denounced the >> Benghazi-based Agoco for “not consulting” before making deals with foreign >> corporations. Agoco managers have responded by threatening “to make a >> strike” over the NOC’s interference in their dealings. >> The conflict, which clearly is a falling out over the division of spoils >> that points to a possible break-up of Libya along regional lines, is >> “complicating the task of foreign companies trying to return to the >> country,” the *Journal* reports. >> >> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To >> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html >> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the >> List Management, please send an e-mail to: >> [log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To >> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html >> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the >> List Management, please send an e-mail to: >> [log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >> > > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To > unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web > interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the > List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To > unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web > interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the > List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤