This is what I mean brother Saiks. You have very poor examples to demonstrate your anxieties.

[-----Original Message-----  From: samateh saikou <[log in to unmask]>  To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>  Sent: Tue, Aug 30, 2011 12:46 am  Subject: Re: [G_L] Is the African Union still backing Gaddafi? - Inside Story - Al Jazeera English 
Ok Ron,take this one.You hear that Yaya is using white Americans to slaughter Gambians] Saiks

FIRST OF ALL, Yahya does not have the charisma, the wealth, nor the intelligence to use WHITE AMERICANS to SLAUGHTER GAMBIANS. If you know Americans the way I do. Now if you had said Yahya use Black Americans to kill Gambians, well that is worth looking at. So if you come back to me with that scenario, then I will share with you what Gambians ought to do.

[and you wake up in the morning and find that Gambians are roaming the streets of Banjul and serre kunda, Raping American women and slautering American men they come across.] Saiks.

So from my suggestion immediately above, this would be a nightmare you would agree brother Saiks. Let us assume the nightmare could come to pass for fancy brother Saiks and Gambians begin roaming the streets for WHITE AMERICANS to slaughter and or rape. The only Americans you would come across in the streets of Banjul and Serrekunda will be Peace Corps Americans. BLACK AND WHITE AMERICANS working to give the GAMBIANS FOOD and EDUCATION. You tell me brother SAIKS, if you are one of those Gambians roaming for the kill and the pussy, would you kill or rape these RAINBOW AMERICANS???????????????? This nightmare of yours is extremely difficult and cumbersome to come true brother SAIKS. AND if I were a WHITE AMERICAN wanting to kill Gambians, I would not wait for Yahya to use me. I will do it myself. FOR MYSELF. Why would I wanna involve an idiot in my crimes???????

[If you happen to have "Understanding" for this barbaric act of Gambians] Saiks.

Now you know the kind of "understanding" I have for the nightmare scenario you postulate brother Saiks. I hope now the Libya matter can be a bit clearer. At least from my vantage point.

[then we are still far from getting close to each other.] Saiks.

We have been close all along brother Saiks. You were speaking out of Negritude's emoticons. I was speaking from a humanistic prism, with a view to ending your chagrin the quickest way possible. Don't worry about the Libya blogs and social media. They are like you. Speaking out of Rougitude emoticons.

[I am black man and asking me to understand the raping of my sisters,the torturing and murdering of my brothers just because of the colour of their skin,] Saiks.

Settle down brother. I got my brothers and sisters over there too. And I am also Black. I am not asking you to understand any such against our sisters and brothers. I just wanted you to be sure such crime is being committed, by whom, and stop it from being committed against our brothers and sisters in a theatre of WAR.

[Ron to be very honest with you,had I not known you,I would accuse you of having no respect for me.] Saiks.

Oh comon Saiks. Not in this lifetime. I will always respect you. And it is because of this respect that I forgive your undue emotions, extremes, and excitements. Here's what I want you to do; If Telefunken is still in business in Sweden, seek out one of their executives or other who used to work in Libya. Ask him or her to share with you some history of Gadhafi and the mercenary soldiers and family militias. Saiks, if I didn't have Religion (HarunaSilo) or Respect for you, I would have gotten carried away by your genuine error.

Haruna. I love you men.


Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 21:49:22 -0400
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [G_L] Is the African Union still backing Gaddafi? - Inside Story - Al Jazeera English
To: [log in to unmask]

No Saiks. You are off tangent.

1. I have no evidence that Yahya is using ONLY Jolas to kill Gambians. On the contrary, Yahya uses Jolas, Fulas, Mandingos, Manjakos, Sarahules, Serers, Akus, Wollofs, Toucouleurs, and Jahankes to kill Jolas, Fulas, Mandingos, Manjakos, Sarahules, Serers, Akus, Wollofs, Toucouleurs, and Jahankes.

What Yahya is doing however is that he is using MFDC mercenaries to kill, maim, and abduct Gambians.

2. This still does not mean that when you finally rise up against Yahya, that you roam the streets looking for MFDC rebels to kill. MFDC rebels are black just like the Gambians they kill. You will have a hard time identifying them.

I think after you read my response to your response of Kukeh, you will appreciate what I try to share with you. I think you addressed color and racism as opposed to tribe and tribalism in your Libya piece. They are not hte same. You have many clans and tribes within a race of people. I will stop here until after you review my notes on Libya.

Haruna. Thanx for giving me the opportunity to clarify Brother Saiks.

-----Original Message-----
From: samateh saikou <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Mon, Aug 29, 2011 8:54 pm
Subject: Re: [G_L] Is the African Union still backing Gaddafi? - Inside Story - Al Jazeera English

Ron,
Did  you read my response to Brother Jaiteh.Tell me that Yaya is using Jolas to kill Gambian and I should be ok with non Jola Gambians going arround Town killing any body who is Jola and or look like one and yet expect me to have an understanding for such a barbaric act.then we are a long way apart from knowing each other.
For Freedom
Saiks
 

Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 20:46:54 -0400
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [G_L] Is the African Union still backing Gaddafi? - Inside Story - Al Jazeera English
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Aye Aye Kukeh. My sentiments exactly. I hope brother Saiks can reconsider his position vis-a-vis Libyans and their caretaker government the NTC.

Haruna.

-----Original Message-----
From: Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>
To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]>
Sent: Mon, Aug 29, 2011 3:10 pm
Subject: Re: [G_L] Is the African Union still backing Gaddafi? - Inside Story - Al Jazeera English

Saiks,
I believe that the reaction against blacks in Libya had more to do
with the perception of their involvement in Libya as Qaddafi's
mercenaries than the the color of their skin. For years it was common
knowledge within and outside Libya, that Qaddafi employed mercenaries
and a disproportionate number of these are Africans. Given the
undisciplined nature of the rebellion it is understandable to see all
blacks being associated with mercenaries.  I would dare say, had they
been Chinese, the reaction may have been the same.  In America its
called racial profiling. Terrible as it is and very imprecise for most
part, its a common tool used by a fearful threatened population. In
short easy to see, easy to target.

The African Union for its part is and had been acting as if on
Qaddafi's interest. Apart from individual countries evacuating
citizens, I have not heard the African Union leading the way to
protect innocent blacks caught in the middle either by setting up safe
haven within Libya or working with both sides to allow for safe
passage. Now that Qaddafi is on the way out, I wonder how the
no-recognition stance would help convince Libyans that being black
does not equate to pro-Qaddafi.


Malanding Jaiteh

On Mon, Aug 29, 2011 at 9:10 AM, samateh saikou <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Malanding,
> Thanks for this one,but do you expect them to support a rebel force that
> started sluaghtering Africans and now roaming the streets of Tropli looking
> for black skin Africans ?
>
>
> For Freedom
> Saiks
>
>> Date: Mon, 29 Aug 2011 09:06:32 -0400
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>> What a mess.
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>> Malanding
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