Brother Khaleel,

You  cannot say it any better. In the life of me I don't understand how
President Jammeh thinks and reason. There is some consistency here that
supports what his critics have been saying... First the President owns a
commercial business bringing in his own rams to sell to the public, and
then he issues a loan from public coffers for citizens to purchase those
rams from him at a profit...

This has been his tactic from the inception...
He brings in his own cattle from public funds to supplement the cost of
meat and the funds goes into his pocket,
He brings in rice from Taiwan and sells at a discount to the public
enriching himself.
He cultivates his own farm and earns yields more than any other citizen...
He has his baking factories and sells bread at a discount.
He uses public funds D85 million dalasis from Social Security and Housing
corporation and constructed a housing project in Kanilai.. (how many civil
servants in Kanilai can afford to pay for a housing project)?
He built his own health centers brings in drugs and put in there...
He buys camera's for GRTS and donate vehicles to numerous department and
claim they are his..

Now my question to any sensible supporter of President Jammeh or the
APRC... Is this not corruption at the highest order? Is this not claiming
and taking ownership of a country?

What is going on?

Thanks

Demba

On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:54 AM, Khaleel Jameel
<[log in to unmask]>wrote:

>  Demba,
>
> I think you said it all. Jammeh has suffered a lack syndrome for so long
> in life that when he clinch to power in Banjul and realized that he can
> claim everything, put his stamp on them and get away with it; he did just
> that and don't know when and how to stop. You are right giving ram loans
> are not new but this is used by organizations to alleviate tobaski expenses
> on employees, understanding the financial burden they shoulder during this
> time.
>
> Governments do not sell their products and services for profit because
> that will without a doubt create serious conflict between what they are
> hired to do and what they are doing. I honestly don't know what Jammeh's
> idea is about giving a ram loan to the civil servants; is the loan interest
> free? was the money used to buy these sheep from the government and the
> profits intended to pay down national debt? The story did not give a lot of
> information but if he is doing it to gain personal profit then it adds to
> his sickness. If he were concerned about affordability for the civil
> servants or feel that they may need help maybe he should have put some
> measures in place in terms of price reduction or availability, affecting
> supply to drive down demand thus pushing prices low.
>
> The only proper function of any government of a free country is to act as
> an agency which protects the individual citizens rights, and the most
> important thing in every leaders mind should be how to stay in touch with
> those they affect most. Jammeh lost the Gambian people but he is too self
> centered to realize it. These are his last ditch efforts to enslave those
> in need. Need is a dangerous playground to play in. Need can make some
> people accept things in essence they can never phantom. Unfortunately for
> us Gambians, we have a leader that does not understand the characteristics
> of an effective leader. He uses the needs of his people as means to control
> their life and destiny, sad case for any leader. May Allah bless the Gambia
> and her people and free us from this tyrant!
>
> Khaleel
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 08:43:29 -0700
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] Fwd: Does the end justify the means?
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>
> Mr. Sisay,
>
> I concur with you. Giving tobaski ram loans to staff is not new in Gambia.
> In fact I want to believe that it was started by some successful
> parastatals such as Gamtel, Civil Aviation, the Ports Authority in their
> glorious days. The interesting difference here as Dr. Jaiteh noted is the
> ownership or politicization of the process.
>
> I honestly wonder what pride President Jammeh has if he puts his name
> against everything that belongs to the public. People who tend to take
> ownership of public properties simply manifest that they had inherited
> nothing that belongs to them thus they snatch as much as possible to boost
> their lack and social status. This is what this President Manifest by
> claiming to own GRTS cameras, giving cars by using public funds and taking
> over holly places.
>
> As the old fula proverb said "Wonna koh maieh tan yurmeknee" translation -
> Not only the dead are worth sympathizing.
>
> Thanks
>
> Demba
>
>
>
> On Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 8:12 AM, Sainey Sisay <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>  eThis is nothing new; it used to be called one by six. One get a loan
> equivalent to one's one month salary payable over a period of six months.
> This was a benefit available to all civil servants, who choose to ultilize
> it. I wonder why Jammeh is taking a credit for it; it is reported as if he
> is the one provided the loan. One wonders where he is able to accumulate
> all that money.
> Sainey
>
> ------------------------------
> Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2012 10:51:52 -0400
> Subject: [>-<] Fwd: Does the end justify the means?
> From: [log in to unmask]
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>
> You got to love Babili Mansa sometimes. It would be nce to know the
> interest rate on this loan. From president to a loan shark!, unbelievable
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ----------
> From: *Malanding Jaiteh* <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tue, Oct 9, 2012 at 10:07 AM
> Subject: Does the end justify the means?
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>
>  This is getting very complicating for me.
>
> Courtesy of the Point Newspaper -
> http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/article/jammeh-offers-tobaski-rams-to-civil-servants-others-on-loan
>
> Malanding Jaiteh
>
> Jammeh offers Tobaski rams to civil servants, others on loan
> africa <http://thepoint.gm/africa/news> » gambia<http://thepoint.gm/africa/gambia/news>
>  Tuesday, October 09, 2012
>  President Yahya Jammeh will provide Tobaski rams to civil servants and
> members of the armed and security services on loan payable within six
> months, a dispatch from the Office of the President said Monday.
> This, according to the dispatch, will be on a first come first serve basis.
> “Civil servants who are interested should contact their heads of
> department, while members of the armed and security services should get in
> touch with the ministry of defence or the army headquarters,” the dispatch
> stated.
> According to the dispatch, all heads of departments should work with the
> treasury department so that the repayment can be properly effected.
> A special account, it said, will be created where all payments will be
> deposited.
> The dispatch noted that the list of all interested persons should be
> submitted to the Office of the President or the Secretary General not later
> than Thursday 11th October 2012.
>
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