Yero and Bro Lad,
 
Quit calling my uncle Kali... He is an elder statesman well experience and needs to be given our traditional courtesy. Yero,you are about to lose a future wife if I hear you call Uncle Matthew Kali one more time!!!. And lad, you know where we have been back in the days... so do as trained from the Island of "obey and complain".  Just a big brother looking out for both sides... I enjoy your humurous exchanges and yes... if you think Gambia is messy now fasten your seat belt... That is what dictators bring to a nation... chaos and breakdown of social command!! Am in for the long haul men.... and will challenge any and all regardless of who or what they have to offer....
 
Demba

On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 9:11 PM, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote
Yero, remember what I said. "Let's Come Together" means come join us. It is what I joke with a friend who is Bahai. They say the Bahai Religion accepts all faiths and have many of the good aspects of other religions. My question is, if you do not think yours is better than all the ones that preceded you, why start one? Why did you not join those others you claim to be good, instead of adding to the confusion? How do folks add to the pile daily, yet, they complain that none is coming together? We have Mandela on the loose; Matthew the most qualified Gambian to be President; Ndoekeh Bayo our new General to lead us to the promised land; and on and on. It is called Race to the Front. The more they say it is not about them, the more it is about them. I better step aside before another rumble to the front crush me with their speed.

Joe

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Subject: RE: [>-<] Where are we heading to with this one?
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 21:55:36 -0500




Lad,
 
Let's say that Kali has a point about what he described as positioning. I will take that as Organization Lesson 101.
 
I am just at a point of confusion.
 
Recall that part of what made our path difficult in all the past elections are problems relating to comprimise over political principle. It comes down to who will be the chosen leader.
 
If all these emerging groups are able to unite around a common purpose for that one Gambia we all love and cherish, that would be great.
 
Thanks guys. I don't expect to have an answer right away.
 
Here is another group and please read....
 
Best regards,
Yero
 
 
 

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JAMMEH MUST GO, A WAY FORWARD

Our people have been the victims of oppression for many centuries by
internal and
external oppressors. Our heroic Ancestors had always resisted against all
types of
oppressors, though this long history of resistance is yet to result to a
permanent
victory. The need to come together and consolidate our forces to permanently
combat the present oppressor and restore social justice is the noble task
ahead of
us.

The APRC state terrorism against the people, cloned with the traits of the
dark past,
is the present stage of our people´s oppression. This despotic regime has
turned
the state into an institution of violence and violation of human rights,
imposing
a state of generalized fear and a program for national disunity.
Consequently, the
lives of our people are characterized by economic underdevelopment, massive
unemployment, social and cultural degradation.

The urgent task that we must carry-out as a people is to defeat the terror
regime
and prevent any subsequent post-APRC terror regime.

It is important as we face the present APRC state of terror, to learn the
lessons of
our past failures. We need to develop appropriate programs, correct
strategies and
tactics, create efficient and effective organizational structures, combined
with a high
level of discipline and dedication that can lead us to defeat the present
oppression
and restore a permanent victory.

The wave of change that has been sweeping dictatorial regimes around the
world
especially in North Africa and the Arab world should not leave Jammeh´s
regime
in the Gambia untouched. We have been witnessing how the reign of
dictatorial
regimes ended in those countries. The same fate awaits Yahya jammeh and his
regime. Even if he runs into a "Dirima dingko" "Pahi dirimo", we will smoke
him out
to face the justice he deserves. This is the time to come together to
remove this
oppressive regime from our backs and restore justice and the rule of law in
our dear
country. Yes, Jammeh must go!

ABOUT THE CONCERNED GAMBIANS

We are a group consisting of well disciplined and focused Gambians who are
willing
to link and network with other Gambians in the diaspora and in the Gambia
with
a common aim to end the decadent regime of Yahya Jammeh. To give support to
the efforts already initiated at home and abroad. We are convinced of the
fact that
without a serious and coordinated initiative, regime change in the Gambia
will take
far too long time to take place. Regime change is a priority. Jammeh must
go! Yes,
Jammeh must!

Long live the Gambia! Power to the people! Regime change now!

THE CONCERNED GAMBIANS


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--Forwarded Message Attachment--

JAMMEH MUST GO, A WAY FORWARD

Our people have been the victims of oppression for many centuries by internal and
external oppressors. Our heroic Ancestors had always resisted against all types of
oppressors, though this long history of resistance is yet to result to a permanent
victory. The need to come together and consolidate our forces to permanently
combat the present oppressor and restore social justice is the noble task ahead of
us.

The APRC state terrorism against the people, cloned with the traits of the dark past,
is the present stage of our people�s oppression. This despotic regime has turned
the state into an institution of violence and violation of human rights, imposing
a state of generalized fear and a program for national disunity. Consequently, the
lives of our people are characterized by economic underdevelopment, massive
unemployment, social and cultural degradation.

The urgent task that we must carry-out as a people is to defeat the terror regime
and prevent any subsequent post-APRC terror regime.

It is important as we face the present APRC state of terror, to learn the lessons of
our past failures. We need to develop appropriate programs, correct strategies and
tactics, create efficient and effective organizational structures, combined with a high
level of discipline and dedication that can lead us to defeat the present oppression
and restore a permanent victory.

The wave of change that has been sweeping dictatorial regimes around the world
especially in North Africa and the Arab world should not leave Jammeh�s regime
in the Gambia untouched. We have been witnessing how the reign of dictatorial
regimes ended in those countries. The same fate awaits Yahya jammeh and his
regime. Even if he runs into a "Dirima dingko" "Pahi dirimo", we will smoke him out
to face the justice he deserves. This is the time to come together to remove this
oppressive regime from our backs and restore justice and the rule of law in our dear
country. Yes, Jammeh must go!

ABOUT THE CONCERNED GAMBIANS

We are a group consisting of well disciplined and focused Gambians who are willing
to link and network with other Gambians in the diaspora and in the Gambia with
a common aim to end the decadent regime of Yahya Jammeh. To give support to
the efforts already initiated at home and abroad. We are convinced of the fact that
without a serious and coordinated initiative, regime change in the Gambia will take
far too long time to take place. Regime change is a priority. Jammeh must go! Yes,
Jammeh must!

Long live the Gambia! Power to the people! Regime change now!

THE CONCERNED GAMBIANS

 
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 22:24:04 -0400
Subject: Re: [>-<] Where are we heading to with this one?
From: [log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]
CC: [log in to unmask]

Kali;
When did you become Chomsky?Its sad that kali cannot mobilize anything anymore and now resort to this English professorship .
Its really amazing !!!!

On Thursday, November 1, 2012, Y Jallow wrote:


Thanks for the input, Kali.
 
May I say good luck to all in seeing everyone on the same table. There is no news that is better than that.
 
That said, I saw two pieces, one that is from concerned Gambians and another in the link below. I am starting to think that it is more worrying on jammeh's aftermath than getting rid of Jammeh. I don't think we need any more groups especially if it will make unity difficult.
 
Anyway, my sincere advice to any of these players is that we should be serious players, move beyond the partisan level and avoid making any of these organizations a friendship show. That has proved not to work in the past.
 
The compromise over principle will be an important factor.
 
Best regards,
Yero
 

 
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 13:41:54 -0700
Subject: Re: Where are we heading to with this one?
From: [log in to unmask]
To: [log in to unmask]

Yero this is called positioning. It is when differents band together to create a force that can be counted when the distribution of power comes. It is mormal though and natural might I add so dont be alarmed.
On Nov 1, 2012 6:01 PM, "Y Jallow" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
 
Folks,
 
Where are we heading to with this one? There ate too many organizations to keep a track of.
 
Best,
Yero
 
 
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