Joe,

I have to second that, NTCG deadline has passed and for some reason everyone has been quite about it. Shows the graciousness of our people. I will call it a failed plan in the sense that Jammeh is still president of Gambia and not even a leaf shook in Banjul. Since NTCG failed, I ask that we consider refining our strategy of tough talk on Jammeh which yield nothing and focus on helping the Gambian people even if we have to engage the Jammeh administration to make this happen. Health care is nonexistence, (I saw a video on youtube about a hospital in Basse which is in dire need of assistance), our education system is in shambles and our communities are being torn. If we can accept that conflict should not be a viable option, then we need to attempt to have one organization with offices in different cities, states and countries with a main focus of raising funds to help build schools in the Gambia, lobby scholarships for graduates of our university to study overseas, work with opposition parties in integrating younger Gambians in the political scene, transform the lives of the future generation to set conditions for better Gambia. I have no doubt with the diverse people on the L and successful Gambians all over the diaspora, we can at least try instead of making up reasons why we can't or won't succeed. Before we know it another 7 years will pass with Jammeh still in power and our families still struggling while we are still calling Jammeh everything but a child of God. I honestly think we need an organization in the diaspora that can engage Jammeh administration in skilled, intelligent negotiations with respect to issues that matters to us.

Khaleel

Date: Tue, 20 Nov 2012 19:23:47 -0500
From: [log in to unmask]
Subject: Re: [G_L] NTCG Transition Period
To: [log in to unmask]

Joe, don't mind honorable bamba.... They put the cart before the horse... Sidia bayo can only replace lawyer darbo... I hope he does that soon

On Tuesday, November 20, 2012, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Bamba, I'm a bit tied up but will be right back with you. Today is November 20 and counting and the 10th was the deadline, s'up? Before I depart, something struck me as odd here and I want your thoughts. My assumption and that of many Gambians I would think is that you all had constituted an army in the first place before you put an ultimatum on the table. Just as you divied up minesterial posts before you even take over. I am a bit confused to read about you all now calling for the willing and able to volunteer, when all gave you space and left you alone to start your march. What is going on bro? It appears my reference to Jaffo and Nyambi Bu Wexh did not sit well with you, but please do not let that distract you. This is not about Bamba or Joe. I have to be honest with you that what you all promised is looking like a hoax and planting a lot of doubt in many that took you all seriously. You are doing no different from the Joe you accuse of doing nothing and who does not have an army. If you do not have an army when you gave the ultimatum, what on earth is going on? Gambia is not owned by any group, thus, if any stands to do anything in the name of Gambians, Gambians will check your every word and action.
> Joe
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> Date: Sun, 18 Nov 2012 10:04:55 +0000
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [G_L] NTCG Transition Period
> To: [log in to unmask]
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> Brother Kejaw,
> Joe is entitled to his opinion and I have do doubt his thoughts would to be the same even if we had gone ahead with our plans without inviting interested Gambians to join the free Gambia Army. This Joe despite his intelligence has been on the L for ages yet one constructive idea of saving Gambian from the clutches of tyranny, he could not bring forth. If Joe Sambou says he does not see Yankuba or myself chewing Jambakatang in the bush, I find such statement to an irresponsible statement from some one who equally want to see Jammeh gone.
> How would he want to achieve that? Gambians want to know because for eighteen years sitting behind computers writing beautiful ideas but no proper implementation of them due to constant infighting and personal grudges against one another is now unanimously seen and believed to have contributed even more to keeping the dictator in power together with our great opposition leaders back home's failure to see the bigger Gambian picture rather than individual party ideologies. They and we have all failed the suffering Gambians on whose plight we said we stand to expose the Tyrant.
> Joe Sambou is Gambian like all of us so let him go home and do his quota in his effort to save the Gambia. If he cannot do that then he is amongst the say all and do nothing group. He is with no short term agenda and should therefore allow his brothers and sister to try their plan. If we fail, then it is our failure not his. But where his failed we may succeed. Why would he not want anyone else to try is a big question? Do not tell me he now condoned the brutalities meted out to his brothers and sisters back home because he has lost all hope of seeing a free Gambia where a Mandingo could freely chew Jambakatango in the bush and brother Manjakos would freely hunt bush pigs for a good fine boy meal? Because despite our individual differences, I have known Joe to be an advocate for a change of regime in Banjul like me!
> I challenge to a debate on any online national Radio of his choice for Gambians to listen to both our cases and make constructive judgement as to our individual aims and objectives to bringing sanity to the shores of our motherland. After all Gambians are the choice makers not Joe and I. Our plans in our constitution is a proposed constitution and Gambians have a right to reject it or ask for amendments.
> You are great despite yourself
> Thanks Janyanfara
> king
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> Date: Sat, 17 Nov 2012 11:48:22 +0100
> From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: NTCG Transition Period
> To: [log in to unmask]
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> Who else feels the transition period of two years stipulated by the NTCG is too long and out of fashion? The NTCG has started recruiting military trained Gambians to enlist in the free Gambia Army, so as not to deprive anyone of joining in to liberate the Gambia, according to Yanks Darboe. That is laudable as Joe Sambou said, he does not see Yanks and Bamba chewing Jambakatang in the bush and so the people, especially those who will be doing the real fight, sacrificing their limbs and lives should be given the right to say how long the term limits are going to be. After my last radio interview with Freedom, I received numerous calls from Gambians enlisted in to British Armed Forces ready to join us fight dictatorship, so I am sure there will be a lot of volunteers including myself. Please do spread the word.
> Thanks,
> K Touray.
>> Ron,
>> What do you mean;
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>> "But because he is African, and illiterate on top of that, there is no way
>> Yahya can think such complex thoughts."
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>> Am I not an African and I do read Fanon.dont just go
>> Senghore(Njobor),before I bring you Jobe.
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>> For Freedom
>> Saiks
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>> Date: Fri, 16 Nov 2012 20:42:40 -0600
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> From: [log in to unmask]
>> Subject: Re: [G_L] Gambians Stranded in Libya & Niger
>> To: [log in to unmask]
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>> Haruna:
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>> Good to see your lines. I didn't see you congratulate Obama or sympathize
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