Demba, Please did not see the insinuations. Please keep your lectures to yourself. Mboge On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 7:41 PM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > ** > Mboge, please let's allow the debate to continue without dismissing > others' positions.. Your points are as important as anybody's.. Let's not > take this issue personal... Please. > > Thanks > Sent via BlackBerry from T-Mobile > ------------------------------ > *From: * Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> > *Sender: * The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List < > [log in to unmask]> > *Date: *Wed, 5 Dec 2012 17:39:40 +0100 > *To: *<[log in to unmask]> > *ReplyTo: * The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List < > [log in to unmask]> > *Subject: *Re: [G_L] Character Assassination or a question of > scrutinizing the record and integrity of an ‘enabler’ who fell out with > President Yahya Jammeh: > > Wonder who is calling for perfection. Rubbish allusion. Perfection is a > myth. Only in the minds unreaistic dreamers. > > Mboge > > On Wed, Dec 5, 2012 at 4:42 PM, Malanding Jaiteh <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > >> And when we cut-off our malignant arms and legs, our perfectly rounded >> torso will writhe itself down the streets of Banjul. >> >> Perfection must not be the enemy of good. >> >> Malanding Jaiteh >> >> >> On 12/4/2012 6:27 PM, Modou Mboge wrote: >> >> *Character Assassination or a question of scrutinizing the record and >> integrity of an ‘enabler’ who fell out with President Yahya Jammeh: >> The case of former Professor Dr Amadou ‘Scattered’ Janneh* >> >> By Momodou Olly Mboge >> >> The heated argument that erupted following the excellent factual scrutiny >> of Dr Amadou ‘Scattered’ Janneh’s record both before and during his tenure >> as one of President Yahya Jammeh’s State Ministers or Secretaries rumbles >> on. The defenders of Janneh or should I say the ‘critically minded >> analyst’ or the ‘the politically incorrect’ as one claimed, believe that >> Prince Obrien-Coker and those who agree with his analogy are engaged in >> assassinating the good character of Janneh as well as trying to elbow him >> (and ‘turn coats like him’) out from the ranks of the opposition. Their >> arguments are becoming hysterical and incoherent the more they come out >> swinging in defense of Janneh. >> >> Those who agree with Prince instead believe that it is prudent, fair, and >> wise to be reminded of the ‘turn coats’ among the opponents of Jammeh who >> are being compared with ‘Mandela’ as well as being positioned as the new >> enlightened ‘saviours’ and champions of the struggle to rid the Gambia of >> Sheikh His Excellency President Alhagi Dr Professor Yahya Jammeh. Since I >> consider myself among those who agree with Prince Obrien-Coker’s >> observation, I am apt to think that he is asking and trying to answer the >> ‘never again’ question so as not to let future generations of Gambians >> being led astray in the struggle against tyranny in their country. The >> Nigerian critic, Chinweizu, who has had many an intellectual battle with >> Wole Soyinka cautioned against not asking and trying to answer the ‘never >> again’ question in the analogy below. He writes: >> >> “Consider a man who has just escaped, half mauled, from the den of a pack >> of hungry lions. If he is wise, his first order of business is to vow >> “Never again!” and ask how he strayed there in the first place, and then to >> take steps never again to make that mistake. If he does not do this, if he >> fails to learn from his harrowing experience, he is stupid and deserves to >> become the dinner for the next lion that comes his way. By failing to ask >> and answer that “never again” question, Black Africa’s “independence” >> generation let Black Africa down and led us astray.” Chinweizu (2008) >> >> Indeed the Gambian opposition to SHEPAD Jammeh has been mauled more than >> one time by pretenders and opportunists. It is way beyond the point it >> should have asked the ‘never again’ question and to find answers to such a >> crucial question. It will be more than stupidity not to do so. Prince >> Obrien-Coker has cued us. We should be having more of the type of scrutiny >> he has made on the records of Dr A S Janneh. Dr Janneh sullied his own >> integrity by dining and enabling the devil. As one observer on the online >> forums the good Dr ‘assassinated his own character’ and I should add he has >> done a damn good job. No spinning can change that. >> >> The lead defender of Amadou Scattered Janneh, Mathew Jallow whose >> narcissism and charlatanry are legendary tells us that what Prince >> Obrien-Coker wrote about his friend Janneh is just the ‘fertile >> imagination’ of the gentleman devoid of evidence. He wants us to believe >> that Dr Janneh and his likes were actually in the government system to >> subvert President Jammeh’s efforts. In the words Mathew Jallow: “From the >> day of his appointment to the day of his dismissal, Dr. Janneh worked >> actively but clandestinely every opportunity he had to undermine the Yahya >> Jammeh regime”. Jallow goes on to cite some evidence for this, one of >> which was when Janneh was accused of working for foreign agents. The >> funny thing about Mathew’s rebuttal of Prince Obrien-Coker’s facts is that >> he would not divulge certain information because if does he will be >> endangering some lives in the Gambia. Standard evasiveness. Well, to be me >> this is an absurd excuse. If Mathew and his friends are serious in their >> claim that people are trying to ‘assassinate the character’ of the good Dr >> or shall I say Professor A S Janneh. I think they should be more >> convincing in their arguments than hiding behind flimsy and preposterous >> excuses which no one can verify or substantiate. Mathew, the man who has >> bamboozled us with his skills and intellectual acumen as well as being the >> ‘most qualified Gambian to be President’ should stop taking people for >> being stupid. Most Gambians are discerning and are engaged critically at >> all levels with the struggle to get rid of Jammeh. >> >> As I hurriedly stated in a response (full of errors) to an editor of one >> of the Gambian online papers the idea that Dr Amadou S Janneh is a Mandela >> figure who has suddenly brought to light the conditions in Gambian prisons >> is I repeat a fallacy and ‘nonsense on stilts’ which obviously means >> nonsense upon nonsense. Any honest person following what is going on in >> the Gambia knows that Foroyaa has spent a lot of ink and paper concerning >> the conditions in Gambian prisons. Halifa Sallah, yes Halifa Sallah whose >> mention stirs a lot anger and vitriol from some of his so-called, >> self-ascribed ‘critical scrutinisers’ has continuously spoken and written >> about Gambian prison conditions. Many other people with experience of >> those conditions have spoken about it. The conditions in Gambian prison >> have not changed since Dr Janneh’s sojourn. Dr Janneh suffered for no >> one. Though I agree he was wrongly incarcerated, he did not go to prison >> for the ‘people’. >> >> Furthermore, the idea that we can learn from Dr A S Janneh’s proximity to >> President Jammeh is neither here nor there. There is nothing we do not >> know about Jammeh that we can learn from Dr Janneh so that argument should >> be thrown where it belongs in the trash can. >> >> For what it is worth, no one is denying Dr Amadou Scattered Janneh or >> people like him the right to oppose President Jammeh. He has all the right >> to do so. Equally no one should try to stop people scrutinising the >> integrity of persons like him based on facts about their record. >> >> In the mean time I eagerly await more installments from Prince >> Obrien-Coker of the type on Amadou S Janneh. >> >> >> >> >> >> >> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To >> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html >> >> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact >> the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >> [log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >> >> >> ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To >> unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web >> interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html >> >> To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: >> http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact >> the List Management, please send an e-mail to: >> [log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ >> > > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To > unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web > interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the > List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To > unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web > interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the > List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤