Joe,
 
Guys like you saying things as they are inspire a lot.  Your consistency and equal treatment of all political leaders and groups even if one do not agree with you is admirable.  Any who stands up and claim to be sacrificing or suffering in the name of the people and keep reminding us of such must be scrutinise.  It is just logical to do so.  The new crop of so-called dynamic  'heavy weights', 'born again' opponents of President Jammeh (ie the Sedat Jobes, AS Jannehs, Buba Baldehs and Co at the moment congregating in Dakar) must be watched.  This lot were 'enablers' and  their utterances about Yahya Jammeh's brutally is no news.  For the past 18 years genuine and dedicated principled Gambians have been talking and doing what they can to change the situation about the cruelty of Yahya whilst these people knowingly enabled Yahya in one way or the other in his oppression and murder of Gambians. 
 
The so-called insider knowledge on Yahya Jammeh's behavior and the way he operates which the opposition may gain from these people as we are made to believe is false and unfounded.  They know nothing new people do not know about Jammeh.  These 'born again' enlightened opponents of Jammeh are just a bunch of unprincipled so-called 'intellectuals' who thought Jammeh was a fool whom they could use.  He stopped them in their tracks hence the bitterness.   
 
Yahya Jammeh only became wicked in their eyes when he turned his gaze at them.  Nimbyism is holding back the struggle against the Madman Jammeh.  Some recognise evil only when it hits home.
 
Joe, keep the up the good work. 
 
Always respect.
 
Best of regards,
Mboge

On Thu, Dec 6, 2012 at 2:54 AM, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
Mbodge, Wahatiko! We are witnessing the height of dishonesty and generations will review our actions when we are on canes. For now, positioning and opportunism is centerstage and any wagon that moves is a ride. When someone tells you they are the most qualified Gambains to be president start running away from them as fast as you can before you become contaminated. What we are witnessing is the stampede of greed and it has gotten so ridiculous that you cannot seperate Sunny form Sammy. Some how, all those recycled material by Yaya have smell death in the air and there is a frenzy. Dakar may be the best thing that ever happen to Yaya in years. How do you get rid of a Dictator by lining the who is who in opportunism that Yaya used and in some cases many times over to form a critical mass? You loose credibility from the jumpstart. The biggest achievement may be just a good time. Mbodge, there is a method to the madness. In time, it will all be exposed and folks would be left standing holding the bucket once again and it will not be the last time for it seems we are forever stuck on stupid. 

Joe 


Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 00:27:40 +0100
Subject: [>-<] Character Assassination or a question of scrutinizing the record and integrity of an ‘enabler’ who fell out with President Yahya Jammeh:
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Character Assassination or a question of scrutinizing the record and integrity of an ‘enabler’ who fell out with President Yahya Jammeh:
 The case of former Professor Dr Amadou ‘Scattered’ Janneh

By Momodou Olly Mboge
The heated argument that erupted following the excellent factual scrutiny of Dr Amadou ‘Scattered’ Janneh’s record both before and during his tenure as one of President Yahya Jammeh’s State Ministers or Secretaries rumbles on.  The defenders of Janneh or should I say the ‘critically minded analyst’ or the ‘the politically incorrect’ as one claimed, believe that Prince Obrien-Coker and those who agree with his analogy are engaged in assassinating the good character of Janneh as well as trying to elbow him (and ‘turn coats like him’) out from the ranks of the opposition.  Their arguments are becoming hysterical and incoherent the more they come out swinging in defense of Janneh. 
Those who agree with Prince instead believe that it is prudent, fair, and wise to be reminded of the ‘turn coats’ among the opponents of Jammeh who are being compared with ‘Mandela’ as well as being positioned as the new enlightened ‘saviours’ and champions of the struggle to rid the Gambia of Sheikh His Excellency President Alhagi Dr Professor Yahya Jammeh.  Since I consider myself among those who agree with Prince Obrien-Coker’s observation, I am apt to think that he is asking and trying to answer the ‘never again’ question so as not to let future generations of Gambians being led astray in the struggle against tyranny in their country.  The Nigerian critic, Chinweizu, who has had many an intellectual battle with Wole Soyinka cautioned against not asking and trying to answer the ‘never again’ question in the analogy below.  He writes:
“Consider a man who has just escaped, half mauled, from the den of a pack of hungry lions. If he is wise, his first order of business is to vow “Never again!” and ask how he strayed there in the first place, and then to take steps never again to make that mistake. If he does not do this, if he fails to learn from his harrowing experience, he is stupid and deserves to become the dinner for the next lion that comes his way. By failing to ask and answer that “never again” question, Black Africa’s “independence” generation let Black Africa down and led us astray.” Chinweizu (2008)
Indeed the Gambian opposition to SHEPAD Jammeh has been mauled more than one time by pretenders and opportunists.  It is way beyond the point it should have asked the ‘never again’ question and to find answers to such a crucial question.  It will be more than stupidity not to do so.  Prince Obrien-Coker has cued us.  We should be having more of the type of scrutiny he has made on the records of Dr A S Janneh.  Dr Janneh sullied his own integrity by dining and enabling the devil.  As one observer on the online forums the good Dr ‘assassinated his own character’ and I should add he has done a damn good job.  No spinning can change that.
The lead defender of Amadou Scattered Janneh, Mathew Jallow whose narcissism and charlatanry are legendary tells us that what Prince Obrien-Coker wrote about his friend Janneh is just the ‘fertile imagination’ of the gentleman devoid of evidence.  He wants us to believe that Dr Janneh and his likes were actually in the government system to subvert President Jammeh’s efforts.  In the words Mathew Jallow: “From the day of his appointment to the day of his dismissal, Dr. Janneh worked actively but clandestinely every opportunity he had to undermine the Yahya Jammeh regime”.  Jallow goes on to cite some evidence for this, one of which was when Janneh was accused of working for foreign agents.   The funny thing about Mathew’s rebuttal of Prince Obrien-Coker’s facts is that he would not divulge certain information because if does he will be endangering some lives in the Gambia. Standard evasiveness.  Well, to be me this is an absurd excuse. If Mathew and his friends are serious in their claim that people are trying to ‘assassinate the character’ of the good Dr or shall I say Professor A S Janneh.  I think they should be more convincing in their arguments than hiding behind flimsy and preposterous excuses which no one can verify or substantiate. Mathew, the man who has bamboozled us with his skills and intellectual acumen as well as being the ‘most qualified Gambian to be President’ should stop taking people for being stupid.  Most Gambians are discerning and are engaged critically at all levels with the struggle to get rid of Jammeh.
As I hurriedly stated in a response (full of errors) to an editor of one of the Gambian online papers the idea that Dr Amadou S Janneh is a Mandela figure who has suddenly brought to light the conditions in Gambian prisons is I repeat a fallacy and ‘nonsense on stilts’ which obviously means nonsense upon nonsense.  Any honest person following what is going on in the Gambia knows that Foroyaa has spent a lot of ink and paper concerning the conditions in Gambian prisons.  Halifa Sallah, yes Halifa Sallah whose mention stirs a lot anger and vitriol from some of his so-called, self-ascribed ‘critical scrutinisers’ has continuously spoken and written about Gambian prison conditions.  Many other people with experience of those conditions have spoken about it.  The conditions in Gambian prison have not changed since Dr Janneh’s sojourn.  Dr Janneh suffered for no one.  Though I agree he was wrongly incarcerated, he did not go to prison for the ‘people’.
Furthermore, the idea that we can learn from Dr A S Janneh’s proximity to President Jammeh is neither here nor there.  There is nothing we do not know about Jammeh that we can learn from Dr Janneh so that argument should be thrown where it belongs in the trash can.  
For what it is worth, no one is denying Dr Amadou Scattered Janneh or people like him the right to oppose President Jammeh.  He has all the right to do so.  Equally no one should try to stop people scrutinising the integrity of persons like him based on facts about their record.
In the mean time I eagerly await more installments from Prince Obrien-Coker of the type on Amadou S Janneh.
 
 
 
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