Suma makgi Chongs, Daaggai warroo deh. You are right standards are absent in some people here. Mediocrity and Low Expections drive them. Now 'turn coats' are more respected than the consistent opponents of the criminality of Jammeh. Asking questions and stating facts are equated with character assassination. The Joe Sambous and Prince Obrien Cokers who have been consistent in their opinions and positions concerning things Gambian are insulted for exposing the naked reality of Professor Dr Amadou Scattered Janneh's record. We are being battered with the prison sojourn of Janneh as a sacrifice he paid in the name of the 'people'. Mandela my foot. Dr Janneh is no Mandela and will never be. What kind of nonsense and insult is that. Comparing a 'turn-coat' and treacherous enabler like Janneh with Mandela is a travesty. I just don't get it, have Femi Peters, yourself not gone to prison for your beliefs and stance. The last time i check Peters is still in the Gambia doing what he could to expose Jammeh. You Chongs, have been busy doing what you could to expose Jammeh from your station without diminishing other peoples efforts. Now haven't Darboe, OJ, Halifa and many more not suffered under Jammeh, yet they still are on the ground fighting under very difficult conditions in their own way to free Gambia from the criminal and his supporters. Yet those i see in these forums defending Professor Janneh are the noisiest in shouting down the opposition leaders as selfish, power hungry, tribalists and what have you who put their interest before country. And this based on some warped and distorted understanding of the right to criticise. I am really troubled by the craziness here. Koto Prince Obrien is just putting the record straight concerning these *'Sahi laka lakas'. *I hope he continues the noble process he started in exposing the liKes of Dr Janneh, for as a respected elder we need his guidance in these our troubled struggle. regards to the family, Mboge On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 8:26 PM, Ebrima Chongan <[log in to unmask] > wrote: > ** > Suma rakkaji wahh ga degga. We have a long way to go without standards. > > E I Chongan > ------------------ > ------------------------------ > *From: * Modou Mboge <[log in to unmask]> > *Sender: * The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List < > [log in to unmask]> > *Date: *Sun, 2 Dec 2012 11:06:30 +0100 > *To: *<[log in to unmask]> > *ReplyTo: * The Gambia and Related Issues Mailing List < > [log in to unmask]> > *Subject: *Re: [G_L] [>-<] Dr. Amadou Scattred Janneh > > > Really baffling the inconsistency of some people. They spend a lot of time > shouting, huffing and puffing and exaggerating the spinelessness of the > leaders of the established political parties on the ground in name of > their God given democratic rights to voice their opinions however hackneyed > these may be *[Personally the political leaders on the ground are far > braver and authentic than most of us staying far away from home pretending > to be more concern than any living being about the goings on in the > Gambia]. * > > These lot are ready to accept 'turn-coats and intellectual prostitutes' as > our Mandelas and what not for some strange reasoning. Worrying! It seems > one can go prostitute themselves to the tyrant Jammeh in the name of > contributing their share to national development, then gets thrown out, get > a couple of t-shirts and make attempts to distribute them to a handful of > followers, get arrested and thrownto prison *Waalla yai Jammbarr yeeh > Jamm~yeeh*. > > Now, is it a sin to state facts for posterity and not be tarred > with assassinating the character of Professor Amadou Scattered Janneh and > his likes. Men, what is wrong with stating facts? > > No wonder the messages about Jammeh's brutality are becoming more confused > everyday, reason why many ignore the Gambian diaspora and their concerns. > > Koto Prince I await your next installment. The Wollofs saying *Maag > Maat Naa Baa Si Daakkaa* is apt here. Keep them coming. > > Best, > Mboge > > > > On Sun, Dec 2, 2012 at 3:58 AM, Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Brother George, >> >> Let's just all agree that Dr. Janneh did F....up... And let's also agree >> that so many other Gambians did F- up before Jammeh and continue to F- >> up...while Jammeh is still in power... That is the reason our country is in >> such a disgraceful situation where people who cannot compete in a level >> playing field are left to run our nation... >> >> I am more concern about calling people out when it is convenient and >> muted when the smell is too close... We should probably come up with a list >> of all those who we think F-up and see where we end up as a nation... >> >> This is what yahya Jammeh recognizes and he continuous to humiliate our >> people and play that card... >> >> Demba (Baldeh) >> >> >> On Sat, Dec 1, 2012 at 5:30 PM, George Sarr <[log in to unmask]>wrote: >> >>> See, if you can't explain something to a six year old chances are you >>> don't understand it yourself. We have a Doctor who is among the most cited >>> on issues APRC (Aimless People Ruining our Country) made a conscious >>> decision to work for the devil, and got served proper by devil what's on >>> menu, and so for people coming to his defense saying he made a mistake is >>> absolute bullshit. There is a stark difference between mistake and fuckup. >>> The Dr. Fucked up, and no amount of spin will change that. If you walk into >>> my server room and trip a wire and bring this here Mighty Post down, I just >>> made a big mistake, and I might slap you twice. But if you knowingly enter >>> my server, and you see everything in its proper and you start pulling wires >>> and doing crazy things, then you just fucked up, because you knew better. >>> You will end up in jail, like Dr. Janneh. That simple. Let's stop defending >>> the indefensible. Needless to say Dr. Janneh is not a for and is well >>> capable of defending himself. I'm just not going to lie for him. I don't >>> cut corners with the truth, friend or foe. Like I said, wahanteh degga I >>> yuut. Mo nehh Yallah, as old and wise folks would say. >>> ------------------------------ >>> From: Joe Joe >>> Sent: 12/1/2012 7:28 PM >>> To: Gambia Post >>> >>> Subject: RE: [>-<] Dr. Amadou Scattred Janneh >>> >>> Demba, thanks for your thoughts. Am I correct to conclude that a more >>> palatable turn-coat in Amadou is more important than those killed, >>> tortured, maimed, or made to disappear by Yaya while Amadou was SOS and >>> breaking bread with Yaya? You also being a Journalist, does it matter that >>> Amadou was at the table when journalists were worst hit and did nothing to >>> defend them? I am also assuming that you are fine with who Amadou started >>> as, a Professor of Political Science and the Resident Expert on Jammeh, >>> only to be a taker with eyes wide open. You are comfortable with his >>> ethics, yes? Are you also of the opinion that had Amadou not fired that he >>> would not have been with Yaya as I write? Lastly, this issue about Amadou >>> is not about a comparison between Amadou to let's say a Uwaa, FJC, or any >>> of those recycled material. It is about the opportunism that Amadou stands >>> for. It is about a person who does not believe in anything but his personal >>> gain. That is what took him to Gambia in the first place. What some call >>> Amadou's sacrifice in staying after he was fired, the rest of Gambia saw >>> other wise. Where was he to go, to the US, where he could not find the kind >>> of employment he was looking for - Professorship, the reason Yaya became >>> appealing? >>> >>> Yes, Amadou is a Gambian and has a right to associate with whom ever, >>> including Yaya. What he does not have a right to is to speak for Gambians >>> without first coming to terms with his opportunism and it appears he has >>> not lost a beat. One thing is certain, Amadou is going to be reminded who >>> he is and will hear from some of us as long as he continues to be who he is >>> - "a palatable turn-coat". I am noticing a line being slowly visible in the >>> topic of Amadou and I think in the interest of our struggle, folks should >>> volunteer any potential conflicts of interest. If folks want to come to >>> Amadou's defense, they should not cherry pick what they want to present, >>> but look at the sum total of the parts. >>> >>> Joe >>> >>> >>> Date: Sat, 1 Dec 2012 13:31:38 -0800 >>> From: [log in to unmask] >>> >>> Subject: Re: [>-<] Dr. Amadou Scattred Janneh >>> To: [log in to unmask] >>> >>> Hi Everyone, >>> While it is not my intention to defend Dr. Scattred Janneh for whatever >>> role he may have played in helping to prop up the Jammeh regime, but I do >>> agree with some people that the very fact that he did not do as most others >>> before him did, that is to stay mute and expect to be recycled when he was >>> sacked, but instead he came out in the open to try and change the system >>> means that he deserved some respect and commendation. >>> We have seen how so many people who had been sacked and humiliated still >>> not only kept so mute expecting to be recycled but some of them even went >>> ahead to write letters to the president to renew their support and >>> allegiance >>> >>> [The entire original message is not included.] >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> *"Be the change you want to see in the World"* >> > > いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい To > unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web > interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the > List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask]いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい > いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい To > unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web > interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the > List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask]いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい > いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] いいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいいい