Joe: These are genuine questions and thanks for your rejoinders as always. Before getting into it, it might interest you to hear some live updates about the Imam. Minnesota civil rights group just concluded its meeting about three (3) hours ago. It was purposely conducted to see what action Gambians and their friends can take. We also had a conference call with a prominent family member of the arrested Imam (Baba Leigh) in the Gambia on the phone. From his updates, the Imam is still kept incommunicado. No one is allowed to see him. Now that leaves a lot of speculations about his fate. I don't trust this administration and their track record as I keep crying is very dirty. We certainly came up with certain actionable items. We are happy to put that to action in conjunction with what other groups are doing in different states of the US. Joe, you asked about the whereabouts of these special class people if you like. Personally, as an ordinary citizen who doesn't belong to any class, I worry more about what is within my reach and power that I can extend sincerely to our nation and its people especially the oppressed and suffering masses. Belonging to former US President JFK's school of thought, thus "ask not what your country can do for you; but what you can do for your country." What I am trying to say Joe is the fact that we must certainly realize by now that some of these folks you are asking for do not have the same thoughts or believes that you and I have. You do not expect that they will fight the fight you expect them to fight. I am sorry but I thought that you know more than that. That is level I am at. Joe, where this now leads us to: Do you see it genuine then to welcome those that are ready to fight with us? I am not looking for anyone to confuse my points as it is so common for anyone to just get away with any little part to fume these forums or to make certain people the supporters of those who once worked with Jawara or Jammeh. Clearly, I do not belong to any group. I am an independent person and for the most part while stance is different but again it doesn’t mean I am holding brief. Needless to mention, I am equally disappointment lately of some of the tendencies I saw from many people I held so high in this struggle of ours, especially with the defensive nature leading to even getting dirty in this debate. I will be the last person to discourage anyone from debating so again the whole issue is not about not wanting to see people being “scrutinized” and “accounted”. I see some of the problems being pointed out on the other side, but I keep asking, what prescription do we have for a sick person already? I would expect a doctor will heal the sick rather than sitting there blaming him for eating dirty germs that made him sick or having sex with another person that transmitted HIV AIDS to him. Joe, I have a dream that our winning formula against tyranny is unity, compromise, fighting together, and letting some of things come later. If we fail to do this, we must be ready for the long hours of oppression ahead. We must design a winning formula. I am calling for rewarding criminals but I am asking for a system where we can all unite to fight the common enemy and such a system must not marginalize anyone. In the end, some of the folks' whereabouts you are asking might not be far from our reach but if we continue to be intolerant and not welcoming like some of the threatening tendencies I have seen, I am afraid, you and I might be lonely fighters because I don't know about any other person, but personally this is life and death for me. I will fight in secrete and I will fight in the open. I will not worry about who is folding their hands though again it touches my emotions but like the many who wants to do their little, I will do it with them. Joe, we are all citizens. Let us make the best out of these forums with a view for scrutiny, accountability, and points taking rather than having to see any debate get flamed by unnecessary venoms. I understand that you are in Mauritania. I tried calling your magic jack number to no success. I appreciate your steadfastness and being there for the struggle for the longest. My best of regards to your entire family and I wish you a holiday full of love and blessings. Best regards, YeroDate: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:46:41 -0600 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The Compassionate Letter To: [log in to unmask] Yero, the larger question around this saga is where are "the faithful", - his congregation? What do they believe in? If an Imam's rights are being trampled upon with not a muscle twitching, what chance does the ordinary Gambian without a following have? Under such circumstances, what does their core belief inform? Where are his fellow Imams, his counterparts in the Church, etc., forget the average Joe for a second? What do they believe in? Their actions speak volumes. So, what do our people believe in? Daily bread I suppose! Joe Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:52:26 -0600 From: [log in to unmask] Subject: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The Compassionate Letter To: [log in to unmask] Imam Baba Leigh: The Compassionate Letter http://caelos.com/gainako/?p=1613 Folks, I am personally glad to see many continuing to add their voices on Imam Baba Leigh. As of yesterday, a friend updated me that the Imam is hospitalized and families/friends are not allowed to see him. It is suspicious to say the least. While we have heard conflicting theories about him being tortured or not, I am getting more worried about the Imam's fate. I don't trust Jammeh and his terror administration. That is not because I despise them. It is because their track record is what I go by. Moreover, a citizen arrested and kept incomminicadoo without being charged within the constitution's stipulation is a serious violation of his right. That is torture in no small way. The Gambia has come to live under a horrible nightmare and it is time for all citizens to make their voices heard by which ever means available to them. Please pass around this letter from Habib and you can possibly inspire thousand others. Best regards,Yero $B!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!" 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