Yero, 

Anguish? Are you OK? So you really got to meet this Khallel guy? Just because he donated? My query was, is his surname really Jameel and did you really get to meet him? Anybody can be on freedom commenting and donate using any name and since you are the only one able to vouch for him just because he donated to your cause and he spoke on radio, this raises more questions and does not really answer any of my questions. You were telling the whole forum and not only Joe, otherwise you would have sent to Joe's private mail. 

Kejau 

>
>
>
>
>
>
> Kejau:
>
> Wrong again. Please rest down your anguish on it.
>
> When I was doing a fundraiser for the two Gambian journalists, Khaleel
> donated $70.00. It was then I get to know who he is.
>
> Besides, he is not hiding. He was on Freedom newspaper commenting like any
> other Gambia.
>
> kejau, that is for your information. The rest you can carry on and
> speculate all you want and trust me, it won't be my business. I hope this
> settles matters for you. Besides, I was telling Joe and Joe believes me.
> Happy holiday Kejau!
>
> Yero
>
> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 19:52:22 +0100
>
From: [log in to unmask]
> Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The Compassionate
> Letter
> To: [log in to unmask]
>
> Yero,
>
> Ebrahim what Jameel, please! I bet Khalell is
> one of those turncoats most likely Ebou Jallow. Do you really know this
> Khallel guy, Yero?
>
> Kejau
>> Yero,
> thank for vouching for Khaleel and that you know him. Khaleel, we
>
>> can now proceed with the conversation.
>
>> Joe
>
>>
>
>> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 11:00:42 -0600
>
>>
>
>
From: [log in to unmask]
>
>> Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The
> Compassionate
>
>> Letter
>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Joe,
>
>>
>
>> Khaleel is the sweatened name for Ebraheem (Abraham), the same way
> that
>
>> Joseph is fondly Joe. I know you will believe me. I can confirm to
> you
>
>> that it is in fact his name.
>
>>
>
>> Merry X-mas!
>
>>
>
>> Yero
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 11:51:12 -0500
>
>>
>
>
From: [log in to unmask]
>
>> Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The
> Compassionate
>
>> Letter
>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Joe,
>
>> I know for a fact that you do not know me, so where do you want me
> to
>
>> start by telling you who I am? Do you want my biography? The
> relevance of
>
>> which I don't see. What makes you think Khaleel is an alias? I won't
> ask
>
>> you if Joe is on your birth certificate. Just because you do not know
> me,
>
>> you want to write me off as an alias. We can't limit ourselves to
> what we
>
>> think brother. Would it have been better for you if I used Bakary
> Njie,
>
>> Ebrima Drammeh or Foday Fofana which you can see as a common name. I
> am
>
>> certain you know that I can create an email account with those
> common
>
>> names to hide if thats my intent. Brother my maturity is not in my
> name,
>
>> it is in my analytical reasoning, my wisdom to understand differences
> and
>
>> acecpt them and my blessings to withstand adversities. Sending you my
> bio
>
>> won't make any difference to you so lets have a conversation about
> things
>
>> that matters. I have never came up here trashing or attacking people
> so
>
>> what will make me hide is unclear to me. GO back and look at
> everything I
>
>> ever wrote, I am not careless with words. Either way, Khaleel is my
> name
>
>> and I don't need to prove that to you. I had this email account for
> years.
>
>> Is this a tactic to discredit me because I don't agree with you?
> Merry
>
>> Christmas brother!
>
>> Khaleel
>
>>
>
>> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:13:28 -0600
>
>>
>
>
From: [log in to unmask]
>
>> Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The
> Compassionate
>
>> Letter
>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Khaleel, thanks for your wisdom. Can you tell me who you are so we
> can
>
>> continue the conversation. Do you think it is fair for you to hide
> behind
>
>> an alias and have a mature conversation with cowards that at least
> reveal
>
>> their ID? Thank you for your consideration.
>
>> Joe
>
>>
>
>> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:13:16 -0500
>
>>
>
>
From: [log in to unmask]
>
>> Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The
> Compassionate
>
>> Letter
>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
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>>
>
>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
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>>
>
>> Gentlemen,
>
>>
>
>> Another interesting and heated debate of opinions and
>
>> perspectives, all of you made some sobering points to this issue. It
> is
>
>> interesting though how some of us can’t disagree on anything
> without
>
>> name-calling and insults. Are we that
>
>> immature and inexperienced? Some of us demonstrate the same traits
> we
>
>> condemn
>
>> in Jammeh perhaps without realizing it.
>
>>
>
>> We are setting a dangerous precedence in that we talk freely
>
>> claiming moral high grounds on issues without any regard to those
> who
>
>> actually live
>
>> those issues. I think Paco hit it right on; to paraphrase, nothing
> is
>
>> stopping
>
>> us from getting off these computers and head back to Banjul and fight
> the
>
>> fight
>
>> rather than being self-righteous behind these machines. Brother Paco
> I
>
>> have to
>
>> admit, you made a lot of sense. Your independent thinking should
> be
>
>> encouraged.
>
>> Some of the hypocrisy here is ridiculous.
>
>> It is much easier to point fingers or to see the wrong of others.
>
>>
>
>> Joe, you made very interesting points and raised very valid
>
>> questions; where is his congregation? Essentially where are the
> Gambian
>
>> people
>
>> who believe in justice for all? If what you asked made any sense, and
> I
>
>> believe
>
>> it does then we must accept that no matter how much we disagree on
> here,
>
>> call
>
>> each other names and insult each other, the resolution of Gambian
> issues
>
>> will
>
>> not be achieved on this forum. So those that claim this high almighty
> line
>
>> of
>
>> logic need to start packing their bags and buy a one way ticket to
> Banjul,
>
>> stand beside those enduring the struggle day in day out then scream
> and it
>
>> will
>
>> make sense to cowards like me. Until then this notion of fighting
> while
>
>> everyone else is laying dormant online is an illusion.
>
>>
>
>> Truth is, we did the same thing during Jawara’s regime
>
>> jumped hastily in the Jammeh camp in 1994 expecting him to be our
> long
>
>> overdue
>
>> savior without taking our time. Now we are claiming that anything
> is
>
>> better
>
>> than Jammeh. I share the wishes of the mass to have a change of
> regime
>
>> sooner
>
>> than later, but the way we are action on these forums frightens me
> for our
>
>> future. Are we capable of understanding that disagreements should
> be
>
>> welcomed
>
>> and tolerated? When we lose wisdom and tolerance and start thinking
> that
>
>> what
>
>> we say as individuals is gospel, our thoughts should be modeled then
> we
>
>> will
>
>> drive this nation to its peril.
>
>>
>
>> The Gambia is our country and if anyone thinks they love it
>
>> more than the other base on big arguments, beating your chest and
> ready to
>
>> curse people out who don’t share your stance can keep on making
> a fool out
>
>> of themselves.
>
>> How do we measure ones love for country? We can’t all be the
> same that is
>
>> why
>
>> it is essential not to condemn or crucify our brethren’s. We
> need to
>
>> extend our
>
>> hands to those that fell from grace and have them march along with
> us.
>
>> Tolerance is essential in any struggle. I am by no means calling for
> Dr.
>
>> Janneh
>
>> to be our exalted leader but do we really need to crush him for
> his
>
>> decision to
>
>> accept to work for Gambia? I said this before and I will say it
> again, I
>
>> really
>
>> don’t believe that Dr. Janneh was in too deep in the
> Jammeh’s trusted
>
>> circle.
>
>> For what its worth lets agree to disagree on issues exercising
> maturity
>
>> and
>
>> tolerance.
>
>> Khaleel
>
>>
>
>> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 14:59:36 +0100
>
>>
>
>
From: [log in to unmask]
>
>> Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The
> Compassionate
>
>> Letter
>
>> To: [log in to unmask]
>
>>
>
>> Paco Faal, I am not surprise you are itching to shout out your
> filth,
>
>> especially when you see the names of Joe Sambou and the likes. I will
> not
>
>> dislodge myself from any struggle especially when idiots like you
> are
>
>> around. The only way you will not hear me on this forum or any other
> is
>
>> to be delisted. I am not going anywhere. I am not fighting
> anyone's
>
>> struggle and you are right not even my family. They can confirm that
> to
>
>> you. The struggle i am fighting for is my struggle. I represent
> myself
>
>> not cowards like you who do not even have the guts to use their
> proper
>
>> names.
>
>>
>
>> You wrote: "Mboge, the problem you face is, you cannot stop
> Amadou Janneh
>
>> from attending any protest, contributing to or joining any Gambian
> group
>
>> in the diaspora. The most you can do is exclude yourself from the
> process
>
>> or stop associating with groups that include Amadou Janneh in
> their
>
>> midst. That's your only choice and I hope it's one you do not take
>
>> because that is tantamount to being an idiot."
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Paco Faal, you echoing MKJ's lie. In little your little mind, it is
> about
>
>> trying to stop A S Janneh and Co. No surprise, this lie the likes of
> you
>
>> will keep repeating, i tell you what i will throw it back to you. No
> one
>
>> can stop A S Janneh doing anything, but no one as well can stop
> people
>
>> from asking questions about 'Gambia's first real political
> prisoner',
>
>> 'Mandela' or Lui.
>
>>
>
>> I am not associated with any group that is with the likes of A S
> Janneh
>
>> and Co and God forbid, i never will. And oh that is not my only
> choice.
>
>> I determine what my choices are PF.
>
>>
>
>> Keep deluding yourself about Jammeh laughing. Unless we start
> talking
>
>> truth to each other Jammeh will keep laughing seeing the Sedat
> Jobe's, A
>
>> S Janneh's and their tipsy defenders telling us that they are the
> best
>
>> the opposition can come up with.
>
>>
>
>> "Yes, Amadou and his buddies will forever be stained by their
> association
>
>> with Jammeh, but you and Joe are myopic in your views that we ought
> to
>
>> isolate, and insult those who've worked with Jammeh". Aha, did
> you say
>
>> anything about stained. Well it is a lie that I am insulting A S
> Janneh,
>
>> the real insult is the one liars and idiots like you keep telling us
> that
>
>> A S Janneh is our Mandela and the rest of the nonsense i cannot
> remember.
>
>>
>
>> Get a grip Mister, no more hogwashing. Mboge
>
>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 2:17 PM, Paco Faal <[log in to unmask]>
> wrote:
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Everytime Jammeh sees this kind of stuff from the struggle, he pops
> 3
>
>> Ambiens and sleeps until 4pm then convenes a cabinet meeting just to
> see
>
>> which one of his ministers he is going to fire again. With the
> attitude
>
>> I've been seeing in these forums for more than a decade, Jammeh does
> not
>
>> really need to do anything else because we have been continuously
> doing
>
>> the job for him.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Mboge, the problem you face is, you cannot stop Amadou Janneh from
>
>> attending any protest, contributing to or joining any Gambian group
> in the
>
>> diaspora. The most you can do is exclude yourself from the process or
> stop
>
>> associating with groups that include Amadou Janneh in their midst.
> That's
>
>> your only choice and I hope it's one you do not take because that
> is
>
>> tantamount to being an idiot. I suggest you crawl back a couple of
> months
>
>> ago when you had a melt down that you are going to fight the
> struggle
>
>> alone because Gambians are not worth fighting for; not even you
> family.
>
>> I suggest we continue contributing to the struggle based on unity
> because
>
>> neither you nor Joe or anyone of us is yet to come up with a solution
> to
>
>> the quagmire we face as Gambians. Collectively, all our efforts to
> fight
>
>> impunity in the Gambia has failed and this is not the time to fuel
> the
>
>> stereotype that Gambians will rather fight each other than work
>
>> collectively to dislodge jammeh. 19 years in this struggle, I think
> this
>
>> is the loudest noise Gambians have made against Jammeh and if we
> should
>
>> not relent in our efforts by letting our egos get the best of us.
> Yes,
>
>> Amadou and his buddies will forever be stained by their association
> with
>
>> Jammeh, but you and Joe are myopic in your views that we ought to
> isolate,
>
>> and insult those who've worked with Jammeh.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Joe, Baba Leigh was not only an Imam with a congregation, he was also
> a
>
>> human rights advocate. Hamm nga daga barri chahan. It's easy to sit
> next
>
>> to your keyboard and call people cowards because they refuse to take
> to
>
>> the streets. What's stopping any of us from going to Gambia and
> holding a
>
>> protest on the behalf of Baba Leigh for being an honest Imam, a
> human
>
>> rights defender and a man that spoke for himself and also on the
> behalf of
>
>> those in the diaspora that want the dignity of Gambians respected?
> You
>
>> are not satisfied with how Gambians are handling Jammeh, go on the
> ground
>
>> and call for a mass protest. The opposition must be having a field
> day
>
>> reading the Gambiapost in the last couple of months. Remember your
>
>> message of "let the opposition put their differences aside and
> unite"? Oh
>
>> well, in every opposition, there are people like Joe Sambou and Mboge
> who
>
>> will never see the bigger picture that in unity to fight for a
> common
>
>> purpose, differences must be set aside. The common purpose here
> being
>
>> Yahya Jammeh and him only.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Wa Salam.
>
>> Paco
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 6:58 AM, Modou Mboge
> <[log in to unmask]>
>
>> wrote:
>
>>
>
>> Joe, We are engaged with a bunch of confused idiots thinking that
> their
>
>> understanding of compromise, moving on and what have you is the
> gospel.
>
>> In the idiotic minds of this lot the likes of you Joe asking
> questions
>
>> tantamounts to division and holding back the fight against Jammeh.
> This
>
>> is nonsense.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> In as much as we want Jammeh out, i will not wait to protect myself
> from
>
>> infectious filth thrown at me in the name of compromise and moving
> on. I
>
>> refuse to be part of those repeating history in its undesired
> form.
>
>> Remember in our desire to see the PPP and Jawara out of power, we
> failed
>
>> to develop a robust democratic dispensation to talk truth to each
> other
>
>> and thus ended up having a monster usurp power; since then Gambians
> are
>
>> dealing with a nightmare that refuses to go. To me the hypocritical
> call
>
>> for decorum is part of the problem we face.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> It is very strange when the loud mouths on these online forums and
>
>> "Jukeboxes" spend their time doubting the integrities of
> the established
>
>> soldiers in the line of fire, to come and tell us that putting the
> record
>
>> straight about 'turn coats' and 'enblers' like A S Janneh, Sidi
> Sanneh,
>
>> Sedat Jobe, Buba Baldeh and Co is about chasing them from the
> opposition
>
>> to Jammeh.
>
>>
>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> It is a lie and utter rubbish and i will continue to call it what it
> is.
>
>> Let them call it venom, rudeness, spoiling the debate or whatever. I
> hope
>
>> we are not in this to be liked just for the sake of it. For me i am
> not
>
>> involve in any debate, i am exercising my democratic right to state
> to
>
>> the obvious.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Nonsense! How on earth can one let the likes of Mathew K Jallow,
> whenever
>
>> he desires attacks anyone then turn around to tell us that his
> friends
>
>> are the best thing Gambia ever had. And, you have lemmings competing
> to
>
>> tell us that, Oh! please let us move and energise the fight
> against
>
>> Jammeh.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> The fight against Jammeh is alive and well. if these bunch don't
> know.
>
>> Jammeh will go as soon as we're ready to face difficult questions
> about
>
>> ourselves. Joe, keep up the spirit.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Merry Christmas and happy new year. Best regards,Mboge
>
>>
>
>> On Mon, Dec 24, 2012 at 12:24 PM, Joe Joe
> <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Yero, thanks for your response. Yes, anytime a loved one is not
> allowed to
>
>> be seen by these people you know they are doing harm to the person
> the
>
>> reason why they do not want folks to see the damage they are doing or
> have
>
>> done. My questions were not to you personally, nor were they for
>
>> diasporans. Those questions were directed at those on the ground,
>
>> especially those that wear the cloak of holier than thou. Folks in
> that
>
>> country pride themselves as more pious than pious. Now, how come
> the
>
>> person that led them every day is nabbed and everyone is about
> their
>
>> business but the business of their Imam? Is this another one of
> those
>
>> Allah knows best? It is the hypocrisy of our people that I was
>
>> questioning. I am not a muslim but common sense tells me if my Imam
> is
>
>> nabbed by a criminal and we all know what could happen to him, the
>
>> congregation of the faithful should rise up and that nonsense will
> be
>
>> nabbed at the bud. Can you do that in Senegal and that government
> survive
>
>> a day (not the case of Bethou, he was accessory to murder)? No. And
> so we
>
>> run around show casing our piety, but can never see nor hear evil.
>
>> Transitioning from the Imams and their congregation to the Clergy.
> Where
>
>> is their faith? Most of these guys grew up and ran the streets with
> Imam
>
>> Leigh in socialization circles aback in the day and they know what
> is
>
>> happening to him is wrong and should speak up. Their silence
> speaks
>
>> volume. Where is their faith? I see them organize this and that
> interfaith
>
>> dialogue and where it counts the most - caring for your fellow human
> you
>
>> see no evil and hear no evil. This is where I am headed Yero. You
> will
>
>> agree with me that those that can put an end to this injustice right
> now
>
>> as I write are minutes away from Mile Two. Now, if you believe it is
> more
>
>> effective from five thousand miles outside I cannot argue over
> that.
>
>> Diasporans have been doing doing what they can do for their country
> the
>
>> last fifteen years, yet, folks are murdered, tortured, nabbed, shot
> at,
>
>> etc. That abuse will never stop for the action that needs to stop it
> is
>
>> right there and as long as they claim that "Human Rights and
> Civil Rights"
>
>> dont feed them, it will be business as usual. Yesterday it was
> Chief
>
>> Manneh and others, today it is Imam Leigh, tomorrow might be a
> relative,
>
>> brother, or sister near you.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> As to your indirect reference to Amadou, I believe you know what
> needs to
>
>> be done. None is stopping nor can we stop anyone from standing up. We
> some
>
>> of us are demanding is that before any shrub stands up to want to
> lead us,
>
>> they first have to explain their actions and I do not have to bore
> folks
>
>> with that track record. If you say you are neutral and do not belong
> to
>
>> any group, how come I am not reading any where, where you wrote to
> Amadou
>
>> to tell him the basics of common sense - that after he sold his soul,
> the
>
>> right thing to do is to fess up first and before he tells us about
> how
>
>> Yaya (not that there is new science in that anyway) is, we need to
> know
>
>> about him first. But to be an opportunist and took off only to run
> back
>
>> still an opportunist and have the nerve to think that you should be
> seen
>
>> as someone's leader is the height of arrogance. If you are not here
> to
>
>> lead anyone, then why do you want to be our face? Why take such a
> face
>
>> that Yaya discarded to fight Yaya and expect to be taken seriously?
> Now,
>
>> Amadou being part of CCG what has that to do with folks that are
> nabbed in
>
>> Gambia? He was there when folks were being murdered and nothing
> happened.
>
>> So, he being in Atlanta or Dakar makes no difference. Seriously, we
> need
>
>> to stop this messiah syndrome. This is why we have our share of
> dictators
>
>> in Africa because for some reason we always think that one person is
> it
>
>> and without him the end is near. Reminds me when Jawara set the
> scheme to
>
>> entrap his suspects by announcing his retirement. Legend has it that
> many
>
>> a Alaghi lost their Kala for rolling on the ground, "Nore Paabi,
> Dun Kor
>
>> Have" in a trance. We have far too many credible folks to choose
> from, why
>
>> should we dumb down our standards? Why? Apparently all those that
> came
>
>> here to tell us this is not about leadership were not either in the
> know,
>
>> or were being deceptive. For, Matthew spelt out that Amadou will lead
> us
>
>> whether we like it or not. If any is going to lend their name or
> integrity
>
>> to something, be very mindful that it is something that is worth it.
> Your
>
>> integrity is all you have and without it all is lost.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> "Joe, we are all citizens. Let us make the best out of these
> forums with a
>
>> view for scrutiny, accountability, and points taking rather than
> having to
>
>> see any debate get flamed by unnecessary venoms."
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Yero, what do you mean by the above? It appears you are speaking
> about
>
>> those that do not agree with your position, no? So, can you please
> clarify
>
>> for me who these people are and we can discuss further.
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Regards,
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> Joe
>
>>
>
>
From: [log in to unmask]
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
>> To: [log in to unmask]; [log in to unmask]
>
>> Subject: [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The Compassionate
> Letter
>
>>
>
>>
>
>>
>
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>> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 21:08:02 -0600
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>> Joe:
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>> These are
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>> genuine questions and thanks for your rejoinders as always. Before
> getting
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>> into it, it might interest you to hear some
>
>> live updates about the Imam. Minnesota civil rights group just
> concluded
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>> its
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>> meeting about three (3) hours ago. It was purposely conducted to see
> what
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>> action Gambians and their friends can take. We also had a conference
> call
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>> with
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>> a prominent family member of the arrested Imam (Baba Leigh) in the
> Gambia
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>> on
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>> the phone.
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>
From his updates, the Imam is still kept incommunicado. No one
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>> is
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>> allowed to see him. Now that leaves a lot of speculations about his
> fate.
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>> I
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>> don't trust this administration and their track record as I keep
> crying is
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>> very
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>> dirty. We certainly came up with certain actionable items. We are
> happy to
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>> put
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>> that to action in conjunction with what other groups are doing in
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>> different
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>> states of the US.
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>> Joe, you
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>> asked about the whereabouts of these special class people if you
> like.
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>> Personally, as an ordinary citizen who doesn't belong to any class,
> I
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>> worry
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>> more about what is within my reach and power that I can extend
> sincerely
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>> to our
>
>> nation and its people especially the oppressed and suffering
> masses.
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>> Belonging
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>> to former US President JFK's school of thought, thus "ask not
> what your
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>> country can do for you; but what you can do for your country."
> What I am
>
>> trying to say Joe is the fact that we must certainly realize by now
> that
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>> some
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>> of these folks you are asking for do not have the same thoughts or
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>> believes
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>> that you and I have. You do not expect that they will fight the fight
> you
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>> expect them to fight. I am sorry but I thought that you know more
> than
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>> that. That
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>> is level I am at.
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>> Joe, where
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>> this now leads us to: Do you see it genuine then to welcome those
> that are
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>> ready to fight with us? I am not looking for anyone to confuse my
> points
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>> as it
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>> is so common for anyone to just get away with any little part to
> fume
>
>> these
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>> forums or to make certain people the supporters of those who once
> worked
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>> with
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>> Jawara or Jammeh. Clearly, I do not belong to any group. I am an
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>> independent
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>> person and for the most part while stance is different but again
> it
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>> doesn’t
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>> mean I am holding brief. Needless to mention, I am equally
> disappointment
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>> lately of some of the tendencies I saw from many people I held so
> high in
>
>> this
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>> struggle of ours, especially with the defensive nature leading to
> even
>
>> getting
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>> dirty in this debate. I will be the last person to discourage anyone
> from
>
>> debating so again the whole issue is not about not wanting to see
> people
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>> being “scrutinized”
>
>> and “accounted”. I see some of the problems being pointed
> out on the other
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>> side, but I keep asking, what prescription do we have for a sick
> person
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>> already? I would expect a doctor will heal the sick rather than
> sitting
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>> there
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>> blaming him for eating dirty germs that made him sick or having sex
> with
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>> another person that transmitted HIV AIDS to him.
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>> Joe, I have
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>> a dream that our winning formula against tyranny is unity,
> compromise,
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>> fighting
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>> together, and letting some of things come later. If we fail to do
> this, we
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>> must
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>> be ready for the long hours of oppression ahead. We must design a
> winning
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>> formula. I am calling for rewarding criminals but I am asking for a
> system
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>> where we can all unite to fight the common enemy and such a system
> must
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>> not
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>> marginalize anyone.
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>> In the end,
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>> some of the folks' whereabouts you are asking might not be far from
> our
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>> reach
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>> but if we continue to be intolerant and not welcoming like some of
> the
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>> threatening
>
>> tendencies I have seen, I am afraid, you and I might be lonely
> fighters
>
>> because
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>> I don't know about any other person, but personally this is life and
> death
>
>> for
>
>> me. I will fight in secrete and I will fight in the open. I will not
> worry
>
>> about who is folding their hands though again it touches my emotions
> but
>
>> like
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>> the many who wants to do their little, I will do it with them.
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>> Joe, we are
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>> all citizens. Let us make the best out of these forums with a view
> for
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>> scrutiny,
>
>> accountability, and points taking rather than having to see any
> debate get
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>> flamed by unnecessary venoms.
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>>
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>> I
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>> understand that you are in Mauritania. I tried calling your magic
> jack
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>> number
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>> to no success. I appreciate your steadfastness and being there for
> the
>
>> struggle for the longest. My best of regards to your entire family
> and I
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>> wish you a
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>> holiday full of love and blessings.
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>> Best
>
>> regards,
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>>
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>>
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>> Yero
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>> Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 17:46:41 -0600
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From: [log in to unmask]
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>> Subject: Re: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The Compassionate Letter
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>> To: [log in to unmask]
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>>
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>> Yero, the larger question around this saga is where are "the
> faithful", -
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>> his congregation? What do they believe in? If an Imam's rights are
> being
>
>> trampled upon with not a muscle twitching, what chance does the
> ordinary
>
>> Gambian without a following have? Under such circumstances, what
> does
>
>> their core belief inform? Where are his fellow Imams, his
> counterparts in
>
>> the Church, etc., forget the average Joe for a second? What do
> they
>
>> believe in? Their actions speak volumes. So, what do our people
> believe
>
>
>> in? Daily bread I suppose!
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>>
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>> Joe
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>>
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>> Date: Wed, 19 Dec 2012 09:52:26 -0600
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From: [log in to unmask]
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>> Subject: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The Compassionate Letter
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>> To: [log in to unmask]
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>> Imam Baba Leigh: The Compassionate Letter
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>> http://caelos.com/gainako/?p=1613
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>> Folks, I am personally glad to see many continuing to add their
> voices on
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>> Imam Baba Leigh. As of yesterday, a friend updated me that the Imam
> is
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>> hospitalized and families/friends are not allowed to see him. It
> is
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>> suspicious to say the least. While we have heard conflicting
> theories
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>> about him being tortured or not, I am getting more worried about
> the
>
>> Imam's fate. I don't trust Jammeh and his terror administration. That
> is
>
>> not because I despise them. It is because their track record is what
> I go
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>> by. Moreover, a citizen arrested and kept incomminicadoo without
> being
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>> charged within the constitution's stipulation is a serious violation
> of
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>> his right. That is torture in no small way. The Gambia has come to
> live
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>> under a horrible nightmare and it is time for all citizens to make
> their
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>> voices heard by which ever means available to them.
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>> Please pass around this letter from Habib and you can possibly
> inspire
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>> thousand others. Best regards,
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>> Yero
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> $B!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"!"
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>> (B
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