Thanks Sariang, Khaleel is no alias then, thanks. But what about Jameel, there seems more to it that than you are volunteering. The only person who is exhibiting intolerance here is Yero. He is the one accusing me of being vindictive just because I question him really knowing Jameel. This is not the first time people are questioning others who they do not know. Fankung was grilled here on a number of occasions and Jameel just had to say he was using an alias and that fact is not beyond questioning. Thank you, Kejau > Yero et al > I just wanted assure everyone both on the Mighty L and Post that Khaleel > is no alias he is a Gambian currently serving in the US Army. I have > visited Khaleel and his family many times while on the east coast. > > Finally, I have been keenly following all the exchanges one thing that > stands out Gambians loved their country. However, we need to exhibit more > tolerance for one another. This to a larger extend encompasses > accommodating folks with divergent views. Finally, we have been debating > for years our current predicament requires action,resolve, and unity not a > particular person going through a litmus test. Thank you. > > Sent from my iPhone > > On Dec 25, 2012, at 2:29 PM, Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > >> Yero, my bad and I stand corrected. So, please disregard my oversight. >> >> Joe >> >> >> >> >> >> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:29:11 -0600 >> From: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [G_L] FW: [G_L] [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The >> Compassionate Letter >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> Joe, >> >> Please read back.....I said US Army. >> >> >> >> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 15:25:28 -0600 >> From: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [G_L] FW: [G_L] [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The >> Compassionate Letter >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> Now, Yero, you threw me in for a loop. Khaleel was a Captain in the >> Gambian Army and none of the many Army guys here know him or of him? >> Kejau was in the Army, I do not know what rank and I would think that >> Kejau would know of Khaleel, no? I guess there is a first in everything >> - Lebanese/Asseryain Gambian in the Gambian Army. Nema Lu Jola Ham Chi >> Warr Fass! >> >> Joe >> >> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:59:21 -0600 >> From: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [G_L] FW: [G_L] [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The >> Compassionate Letter >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> Joe, >> >> Don't worry about a thing.....Kejau's anxiety comes from the military >> lecture that Khaleel gave him here a while back. To his surprise, >> Khaleel rose to the ranks of a captain within the US Army. I find him to >> be a genuine Gambian whose input counts like any other person. >> >> Kejau is welcome to ask and I won't get tired telling him. The only >> frustration I will have is when I have to babysit an adult. >> >> Take care Joe.....enjoy! >> >> >> >> >> >> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 14:52:17 -0600 >> From: [log in to unmask] >> Subject: Re: [G_L] FW: [G_L] [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The >> Compassionate Letter >> To: [log in to unmask] >> >> Kejau, I took Yero's word and relied on his integrity. I think Yero knew >> what I requested and he volunteered his voice. I remember a school mate >> at SAHS by the name Isaac or Isa Khaleel and that is the closest thing >> that I can reference to the name Khaleel. I do not think that fellow is >> here on-line but I may be wrong. Now, I hope when Yero said he knows >> Khaleel, he actually knows him. I know when you collect donations you >> will deal with many aliases especially on matters relating Gambia. There >> are Gambians who have called me on the phone more than once and to this >> day I cannot tell you who they are. I remember asking one fellow who he >> is and all he kept telling me is I know him very well from Banjul and he >> will reveal his name in time and it is now more than ten years and I >> still do not know the fellow. Both Yero and Khaleel carried themselves >> like they know each other and I hope that is the case. >> >> Joe >> >> Yero, >> Anguish? Are you OK? So you really got to meet this Khallel guy? Just >> because he donated? My query was, is his surname really Jameel and did >> you really get to meet him? Anybody can be on freedom commenting and >> donate using any name and since you are the only one able to vouch for >> him just because he donated to your cause and he spoke on radio, this >> raises more questions and does not really answer any of my questions. >> You were telling the whole forum and not only Joe, otherwise you would >> have sent to Joe's private mail. >> Kejau >> >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > Kejau: >> > >> > Wrong again. Please rest down your anguish on it. >> > >> > When I was doing a fundraiser for the two Gambian journalists, Khaleel >> > donated $70.00. It was then I get to know who he is. >> > >> > Besides, he is not hiding. He was on Freedom newspaper commenting like >> any >> > other Gambia. >> > >> > kejau, that is for your information. The rest you can carry on and >> > speculate all you want and trust me, it won't be my business. I hope >> this >> > settles matters for you. Besides, I was telling Joe and Joe believes >> me. >> > Happy holiday Kejau! >> > >> > Yero >> > >> > Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 19:52:22 +0100 >> > >> From: [log in to unmask] >> > Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The Compassionate >> > Letter >> > To: [log in to unmask] >> > >> > Yero, >> > >> > Ebrahim what Jameel, please! I bet Khalell is >> > one of those turncoats most likely Ebou Jallow. Do you really know >> this >> > Khallel guy, Yero? >> > >> > Kejau >> >> Yero, >> > thank for vouching for Khaleel and that you know him. Khaleel, we >> > >> >> can now proceed with the conversation. >> > >> >> Joe >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 11:00:42 -0600 >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> From: [log in to unmask] >> > >> >> Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The >> > Compassionate >> > >> >> Letter >> > >> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Joe, >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Khaleel is the sweatened name for Ebraheem (Abraham), the same way >> > that >> > >> >> Joseph is fondly Joe. I know you will believe me. I can confirm to >> > you >> > >> >> that it is in fact his name. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Merry X-mas! >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Yero >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 11:51:12 -0500 >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> From: [log in to unmask] >> > >> >> Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The >> > Compassionate >> > >> >> Letter >> > >> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Joe, >> > >> >> I know for a fact that you do not know me, so where do you want me >> > to >> > >> >> start by telling you who I am? Do you want my biography? The >> > relevance of >> > >> >> which I don't see. What makes you think Khaleel is an alias? I won't >> > ask >> > >> >> you if Joe is on your birth certificate. Just because you do not know >> > me, >> > >> >> you want to write me off as an alias. We can't limit ourselves to >> > what we >> > >> >> think brother. Would it have been better for you if I used Bakary >> > Njie, >> > >> >> Ebrima Drammeh or Foday Fofana which you can see as a common name. I >> > am >> > >> >> certain you know that I can create an email account with those >> > common >> > >> >> names to hide if thats my intent. Brother my maturity is not in my >> > name, >> > >> >> it is in my analytical reasoning, my wisdom to understand differences >> > and >> > >> >> acecpt them and my blessings to withstand adversities. Sending you my >> > bio >> > >> >> won't make any difference to you so lets have a conversation about >> > things >> > >> >> that matters. I have never came up here trashing or attacking people >> > so >> > >> >> what will make me hide is unclear to me. GO back and look at >> > everything I >> > >> >> ever wrote, I am not careless with words. Either way, Khaleel is my >> > name >> > >> >> and I don't need to prove that to you. I had this email account for >> > years. >> > >> >> Is this a tactic to discredit me because I don't agree with you? >> > Merry >> > >> >> Christmas brother! >> > >> >> Khaleel >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Date: Tue, 25 Dec 2012 10:13:28 -0600 >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> From: [log in to unmask] >> > >> >> Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The >> > Compassionate >> > >> >> Letter >> > >> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Khaleel, thanks for your wisdom. Can you tell me who you are so we >> > can >> > >> >> continue the conversation. Do you think it is fair for you to hide >> > behind >> > >> >> an alias and have a mature conversation with cowards that at least >> > reveal >> > >> >> their ID? Thank you for your consideration. >> > >> >> Joe >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Date: Mon, 24 Dec 2012 18:13:16 -0500 >> > >> >> >> > >> > >> From: [log in to unmask] >> > >> >> Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] RE: [G_L] Imam Baba Leigh: The >> > Compassionate >> > >> >> Letter >> > >> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Gentlemen, >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Another interesting and heated debate of opinions and >> > >> >> perspectives, all of you made some sobering points to this issue. It >> > is >> > >> >> interesting though how some of us can’t disagree on anything >> > without >> > >> >> name-calling and insults. Are we that >> > >> >> immature and inexperienced? Some of us demonstrate the same traits >> > we >> > >> >> condemn >> > >> >> in Jammeh perhaps without realizing it. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> We are setting a dangerous precedence in that we talk freely >> > >> >> claiming moral high grounds on issues without any regard to those >> > who >> > >> >> actually live >> > >> >> those issues. I think Paco hit it right on; to paraphrase, nothing >> > is >> > >> >> stopping >> > >> >> us from getting off these computers and head back to Banjul and fight >> > the >> > >> >> fight >> > >> >> rather than being self-righteous behind these machines. Brother Paco >> > I >> > >> >> have to >> > >> >> admit, you made a lot of sense. Your independent thinking should >> > be >> > >> >> encouraged. >> > >> >> Some of the hypocrisy here is ridiculous. >> > >> >> It is much easier to point fingers or to see the wrong of others. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Joe, you made very interesting points and raised very valid >> > >> >> questions; where is his congregation? Essentially where are the >> > Gambian >> > >> >> people >> > >> >> who believe in justice for all? If what you asked made any sense, and >> > I >> > >> >> believe >> > >> >> it does then we must accept that no matter how much we disagree on >> > here, >> > >> >> call >> > >> >> each other names and insult each other, the resolution of Gambian >> > issues >> > >> >> will >> > >> >> not be achieved on this forum. So those that claim this high almighty >> > line >> > >> >> of >> > >> >> logic need to start packing their bags and buy a one way ticket to >> > Banjul, >> > >> >> stand beside those enduring the struggle day in day out then scream >> > and it >> > >> >> will >> > >> >> make sense to cowards like me. Until then this notion of fighting >> > while >> > >> >> everyone else is laying dormant online is an illusion. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> Truth is, we did the same thing during Jawara’s regime >> > >> >> jumped hastily in the Jammeh camp in 1994 expecting him to be our >> > long >> > >> >> overdue >> > >> >> savior without taking our time. Now we are claiming that anything >> > is >> > >> >> better >> > >> >> than Jammeh. I share the wishes of the mass to have a change of >> > regime >> > >> >> sooner >> > >> >> than later, but the way we are action on these forums frightens me >> > for our >> > >> >> future. Are we capable of understanding that disagreements should >> > be >> > >> >> welcomed >> > >> >> and tolerated? When we lose wisdom and tolerance and start thinking >> > that >> > >> >> what >> > >> >> we say as individuals is gospel, our thoughts should be modeled then >> > we >> > >> >> will >> > >> >> drive this nation to its peril. >> > >> >> >> > >> >> The Gambia is our country and if anyone thinks they love it >> > >> >> more than the other base on big arguments, beating your chest and >> > ready to >> > >> >> curse people out who don’t share your stance can keep on making >> > a fool out >> > >> >> of themselves. >> > >> >> How do we measure ones love for country? We can’t all be the >> > same that is >> > >> >> why >> > >> >> it is essential not to condemn or crucify our brethren’s. We >> > need to >> > >> >> extend our >> > >> >> hands to those that fell from grace and have them march along with >> > us. >> > >> >> Tolerance is essential in any struggle. I am by no means calling for >> > Dr. >> > >> >> Janneh >> > >> >> to be our exalted leader but do we really need to crush him for >> > his >> > >> >> decision to >> > >> >> accept to work for Gambia? 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