Yero, yes am aware of the fundraising with Banka.. that seems to be a one time designed to help relief the family while Baba is away... This idea is actually a broad base funding for ALL prisioners of conscience... it would be a permanent fund drive if we can get it moving... It is only an idea thrown on the table.. Do we think it is a viable idea doesn't matter where it comes from... if yes, let's show hands... if not the fight against impunity continuous. thanks Demba On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 11:55 PM, Yero Jallow <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > > Mawdo Demba et al; > > Great points. > > With regards to the fundraising, I suggest that any interested in > continuing this effort should link with those who are already doing the > drives, in the persons of Banka Manneh and Baba Hydara last time I checked. > It is proper that we don't operate in small scattered chunks. > > Nyang's points below are worth noting and regardless, we still have to > pursue justice to whatever level we must. > > Best regards, > Yero > ------------------------------ > Date: Thu, 21 Mar 2013 23:44:51 -0700 > From: [log in to unmask] > > Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] Imam Baba Leigh - 10 lawyer & Defense Funds $200 > pledge????? > To: [log in to unmask] > > > Lamin, > > Not only are we confronting the Prefessor at the Courts but we are also > confronting those sitting in the courts. How dare they go down in history > as ruling on continuous detention of citizens? What would that say about > them sitting on those courts? Not that we expect them to rule in our favor > but they will be forced to take a stand.... > > Everyone of them will be accountable for their own action and will pay for > it in one way or another... I say let the brave men and women on those > courts tuck in their tails and succumb to the professor... Their days will > come as well like Moses Richards... > > thanks > > Demba > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 4:14 PM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > > Good question Nyang, but it is absolutely vital that the Professor is > confronted in the courts, and that the spotlight is shone on the judiciary. > I understand your cynicism completely, but absent exceptional > circumstances, exhaustion of domestic recourse is a prerequisite to > admissibility of ECOWAS Court action > > > LJDarbo > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]> > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Sent:* Thursday, 21 March 2013, 22:43 > > *Subject:* Re: [G_L] [>-<] Imam Baba Leigh - 10 lawyer & Defense Funds > $200 pledge????? > > Good suggestion Demba, but if i may ask, what outcome do you expect out of > a court action by even a team of 20 lawyers? I may agree that such an > action may server to raise the plight of Imam Baba Leigh to the forefront > of current national discourse, but what efect or result do yo expect from > such an actio? > I think the case will just be dismissed by the courts or the respondents > simply play innocence just like they did and is still doing in the cases of > Rambo Jatta, Kanyiba Kanyi and Ebrima Manneh. > > *From:* Demba Baldeh <[log in to unmask]> > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Sent:* Thursday, March 21, 2013 5:41 PM > *Subject:* Re: [G_L] [>-<] Imam Baba Leigh - 10 lawyer & Defense Funds > $200 pledge????? > > Yus & Lamin, > > Here is how I think Imam Baba Leigh can be adequately represented in > Gambia without anybody being arrested... I think a group of lawyers can > sign up to represent him as a group.. say the Bar Association appointing 10 > defense lawyers to file a case at the high court.. or 10 brave independent > lawyers come together and sign up to file a case to be heard at the high > court. > > At the very least I don't think they can or will arrest all 10 lawyers for > simply representing a citizen.... > > Another suggestion I have to practically support this case is to urge > Gambians to come up with contributions for Imam Leigh's defense fund... I > would pledge $200 to this fund and if we have 100 - 200 Gambians pledging > minimum of $100 dollars we are looking at $40,000 almost D1.3 million > dalasis for defense fund... Do we have this commitment from our fellow > Gambians on this list to do this project... anybody can lead this effort... > from Europe, US, and anywhere around the world... > > Can we do this, any suggestion from anybody... > > Thanks > > Demba > > On Thu, Mar 21, 2013 at 3:11 AM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > > Yusupha > > The ECOWAS Court is indeed an option, but the Constitution itself offers a > powerful tool to demand Imam Baba Leigh's release from custody. Do you know > anything about the allegation that the family wants no recourse to law in > order "not to offend" Professor Jammeh. > > Imam Baba Leigh is no ordinary Gambian and so my money is still on the > supposition he is alive. > > Like you, I am overwhelmed by his continued disappearance but where is his > congregation? Will anyone taking up his case in The Gambia, including a > legal representative, be arrested, abducted, or disappeared? This is not > inconceivable, and my question remain how we stop fellow citizens from > forcefully disappearing in the country? If we can solve this problem, we > are home free! > > > LJDarbo > > *From:* Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]> > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Sent:* Wednesday, 20 March 2013, 15:03 > > *Subject:* Re: [>-<] Imam Baba Leigh > > LJD: > I think we have to mobilize the resources to file a case against the > dictator to produce Imam Baba Leigh. There is indisputable evidence that he > was abducted by the agents of the state. Let's put pressure on the dictator > in the most meaningful way. This case has to be taken to the ECOWAS court > of law or any international court that will accept the case. This way we > make it clear to him that concrete action will be taken against these type > of arbitrary disappearances any time they happen; and that he will have to > account for these people whether he is in or out of the State House. > > Thanks > Yusupha > > On Wed, Mar 20, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Lamin Darbo <[log in to unmask]>wrote: > > Thanks Yusupha, and my main interest lies in your first point: > > Why the silence about this man's disappearance? Doesn't it affect > your > conscience that a man with kids as young as eight can simply be > taken away > from his family yet Gambians all over the world aren't up in > arms about this? > Does any society that has a collective conscience allow this to > happen? > > I note YJ's arguments, but the theater for these abductions is The Gambia. > Not a day goes by without my thinking about your above, but in all honesty, > I am overwhelmed. I'm sure many Gambians have "conscience" but how do > we energize that "conscience" to protect each other from killings, > abductions, and arbitrary arrests. A solution to this issue means we are > more than 90% nearer our liberation target. > > Any practical ideas on your point number 1? > > > LJDarbo > > > > *From:* Yusupha Jow <[log in to unmask]> > *To:* [log in to unmask] > *Sent:* Tuesday, 19 March 2013, 20:25 > *Subject:* [>-<] Imam Baba Leigh > > The man has been held incommunicado for over 3 months now. His family > and his friends have not heard a word from him in this time. I have a few > questions about this: > > 1. Why the silence about this man's disappearance? Doesn't it affect your > conscience that a man with kids as young as eight can simply be taken away > from his family yet Gambians all over the world aren't up in arms about > this? Does any society that has a collective conscience allow this to > happen? > > 2. What has Imam Baba Leigh done to deserve such a fate? No charges have > been read against him, absolutely nothing. > > I believe we reap what we sow as a society. 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