Nyang,
You have added no value here but nonsense upon silt. The issue was about electing party officials/leadership and that is what you quoted me as saying in your headline. Check your post again, kid.
Almost all the events you described as pdois party congresses involved no leadership election and therefore render no legitimacy to your party's leadership and that is the crunchy nuts here. You did not denied this because it is an irrefutable fact. You also did not deny the fact that PDois conducted only one leadership election since the birth of the second republic and this was 12yrs ago in Wuli Taibatou because that too is incontrovertible. The UDP conducted two, the last one been only 3yrs ago. You have already conceded that and therefore nothing in contention there.
In a democracy, mandates normally last for only five years, not 12 and that makes people wonder whether Halifa has any legitimacy to continue serving as the secretary general and spokesperson of pdois without submitting himself for re-election especially given that there are no extraneous reasons for his default.
It doesn't matter how you described what happened in brikama or Jarra Soma. The fact remains that it was the ordinary folks who took charge and select the leader and party officials of the UDP at these congresses in accordance with their own Sovereign and unfettered will. Isn't that what democracy is all about?????? To sum it up: the UDP leadership leads according to mandate while Halifa leads on the basis of a self proclaimed destiny.
I have made no mention of 2008 for no UDP congress was held in this year. It must be your dementia that is kicking off there again hence your mixing of apples and bitter lemons.
By the ways; well done for double checking the facts with the Daily News which corroborates my narration and exposes the real lie been confirmed. It also shows that I know my facts whereas you only have Halifa's sermons to cling on.
I will still excuse your insults for I understand this is only because you are inept and lacks a better explanation for Halifa sheer propensity to deceive and manipulate. Or shall I put it down to your dementia???
There is no doubt you are writing with a disturb mind and that is palpably obvious to all here. I shall add no further injury to this self inflicted suffering of yours.
Kindest regards,kid.
Daffeh
On Saturday, 6 April 2013, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> Daffeh, thank you for confirming that you lied, I appreciate that. For that reason I will oblige you and give you the benefit of doubt as to my capacity to discern deception from a far by unmasking your very own attempts at deception right here.
> You said you did not talk about a “tradition of holding congresses” but that of “electing party officials,” Mr. Daffeh, no amount of semantics or word manipulation will save you from your lie that “the UDP is the only party in The Gambia with a tradition of periodically electing party officials.” Is holding a congress in a 13 year time span periodic? By the way, in order to ensure I was not mistaken of the year of the first UDP congress even though I know the time period, I relied on this Daily News report of the 2010 (thanks for correcting me on this one, it was an oversight). Even if your 2008 date stands, my question is still legit. What is periodic in that and what officials were elected? What happened in Jarra Soma in 2010 was a mere shuffling of people around some portfolios.
> I am not interested in all the extra garbage.
> Nyang
> From: UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]>
> To: [log in to unmask]
> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 9:43 AM
> Subject: Re: [G_L] Lie of the Week
>
> Nyang,
>
> You are a manipulated lad who lacks the mental faculty to understand
> the deceptive game Halifa plays on the minds of his disciples and
> party flunkies and for that reason, I will excuse your insults.
> However, in the interest of the truth and for the benefit of the
> readership, I hereby put the records straight.
>
> Firstly, I did not talk about a ‘tradition of holding congresses’
> which is what you are on about but a ‘tradition of electing party
> officials’. So you have mixed your apples and oranges there.
>
> Secondly, The UDP first congress was held in 1998, not 1997 and the
> second was held in 2010, not 2011. The party was unable to hold a
> congress in the period leading to the 2006 elections because of its
> membership of NADD whose code of conduct bars any member party to
> engage in individual party business. You also gave the same reason
> for PDOIS’s default in this respect, and that makes my postulations
> wholly incontrovertible.
>
> Thirdly, out of the numerous congresses you attributed to PDOIS , all
> of which I was aware of but won’t call many of then ‘congress’, the
> PDOIS party conducted leadership election in only one of them; the
> Wuli Taibatou one in 2001, and that was 12yrs ago. This too is an
> incontrovertible fact. The rest were just conferences created
> purposely for Halifa to indoctrinate more of you with his wishful
> ideology and to showcase his delusional greatness. The UDP on the
> other hand, always elect officials in leadership positions whenever
> they hold a congress and in line with the true sense of the term
> ‘Congress’ in politics.
>
> Fourthly, PDOIS also held a so-called congress in 2010 and promised to
> held another one 6 months before the 2011 presidential elections to
> elect the party’s leadership but Halifa failed to honour his promise
> to the general membership and continue to hold the party to ransom on
> the basis that it is his destiny to lead and for the rest to follow.
> You can’t blame that on the coalition talks that preceded the 2011
> Presidential elections because that only began weeks rather than
> months before the elections. I should know better because it was the
> UDP that initiated and organised that talks, not PDOIS.
>
> Finally, some of these events that you called congress were just
> conferences were the party members meet with the leadership to
> discourse policy and strategy rather than electing a leadership. In
> the real world, we call that a ‘Party Conference’ and it is something
> the UDP does all the time. That means your notion of congress is
> different from that of the rest of mankind.
>
> You also said the representational face of PDOIS since1996 have
> changed from Sidia to Halifa-that is a change for the worst- and I am
> sure you won’t say this is what the general membership have decided
> because they haven’t. The change is wholly and entirely based on
> Halifa’s whims and caprices and that raises questions about Halifa’s
> legitimacy to serve as the face of the PDOIS party.
>
> Thanks
> Daffeh
>
>
>
>
> On Friday, 5 April 2013, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>> "the UDP is the only party in The Gambia with a tradition of periodically
> electing party officials..."
>>
>> This bigot and liar thinks that he can forced feed people on false
> narratives as if we were residents of Mars. Informed people on this list
> knows that the UDP first held a congress in 1997 in Brikama and a second
> and last one 14 years later in 2011 in Jarra Soma. in contrast since the
> beginning of the second Republic, PDOIS held congresses in 1997, 1998, 2000
> in Kanifing Serrekunda and in 2001 in Wuli Taibatou , be wherefore it was
> decided that because of the cost involved congresses would be held every
> four years in the year preceding a presidential election.
>> After 2001 beginning in 2002/3 PDOIS was engaged in alliance/coaliation
> talks that led to the formation of NADD for the 2006 presidential election.
> conditions did not allow for the holding of party congress when all efforts
> were focused on the alliance. Past 2006 and into 2011, still engulfed in
> alliance/unity talks a mini congress was convened in Banjul that resolved
> that the party support a united front candidate and not contest the
> election on its own. Besides, the representational face of PDOIS during the
> period 1996 to 2011 has changed from Seedia Jatta to Halifa Sallah.
>> I leave it at this at this moment.
>>
>> Nyang
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