Nyang, The facts are incontrovertible and they are not on your side. The UDP has two leadership elections in their records while PDOis has only one. We both alluded to the constrain our parties faced as a result of their membership of NADD whose code of conduct prevented UDP from holding another congress in the period leading to the 200 presidential6 election where it would have conducted another leadership election as per its tradition. That means the UDP not only have a tradition of electing party officials as I have postulated, it also has an entrenched culture of the same. I am not able describe PDOIS as a party with a tradition of electing party officials because that wouldn't be borne by facts. PDOIS conducted leadership election only once since the birth of the second republic and this was never repeated. In english we call that a fluke, not a tradition. So I am only saying it as it is, which is; the UDP is the only party in The Gambia with a tradition of periodically electing party officials. That is an incontrovertible fact. I know you are demented but try not to loose sight of the fact that UDP was only formed in 1996 while PDOIs is almost three decades old with very little to show. Oh! I almost forgot; Halifa also went on to the media and proclaimed himself as the spokesperson of the G6 when in fact, the G6 has no spokesperson or spokesperson position to fill. And when he realised he was about to be called out, he dropped his self-aggrandised title and ran back to his comfort zone- the PDOis slum- to avoid embarrassment. This is his problem; he does not believe in mandate. He thinks it is his destiny to be anything he wants to be. He is arrogant, a dictator, a control-freak and is worst than Laurent Gbargbo of Ivory Coast. I will excuse your insults for I understand the facts are not on your side and therefore, you needed something to compensate your inadequacy. Once again, my kindest regards Daffeh n Saturday, 6 April 2013, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Mr. Daffeh Call it whatever you want to and me as many names as you wish, the point reason for writing was to show that you lied that "“the UDP is the only party in The Gambia with a tradition of periodically electing party officials.” This is a lie and i have pointed it out for every clearly for everyone to see. > > > Nyang > > From: UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]> > To: [log in to unmask] > Sent: Saturday, April 6, 2013 2:01 AM > Subject: [G_L] Lie of the Week > > Nyang, > > You have added no value here but nonsense upon silt. The issue was about electing party officials/leadership and that is what you quoted me as saying in your headline. Check your post again, kid. > > Almost all the events you described as pdois party congresses involved no leadership election and therefore render no legitimacy to your party's leadership and that is the crunchy nuts here. You did not denied this because it is an irrefutable fact. You also did not deny the fact that PDois conducted only one leadership election since the birth of the second republic and this was 12yrs ago in Wuli Taibatou because that too is incontrovertible. The UDP conducted two, the last one been only 3yrs ago. You have already conceded that and therefore nothing in contention there. > > In a democracy, mandates normally last for only five years, not 12 and that makes people wonder whether Halifa has any legitimacy to continue serving as the secretary general and spokesperson of pdois without submitting himself for re-election especially given that there are no extraneous reasons for his default. > > It doesn't matter how you described what happened in brikama or Jarra Soma. The fact remains that it was the ordinary folks who took charge and select the leader and party officials of the UDP at these congresses in accordance with their own Sovereign and unfettered will. Isn't that what democracy is all about?????? To sum it up: the UDP leadership leads according to mandate while Halifa leads on the basis of a self proclaimed destiny. > > I have made no mention of 2008 for no UDP congress was held in this year. It must be your dementia that is kicking off there again hence your mixing of apples and bitter lemons. > > By the ways; well done for double checking the facts with the Daily News which corroborates my narration and exposes the real lie been confirmed. It also shows that I know my facts whereas you only have Halifa's sermons to cling on. > > I will still excuse your insults for I understand this is only because you are inept and lacks a better explanation for Halifa sheer propensity to deceive and manipulate. Or shall I put it down to your dementia??? > > There is no doubt you are writing with a disturb mind and that is palpably obvious to all here. I shall add no further injury to this self inflicted suffering of yours. > > > Kindest regards,kid. > Daffeh > > On Saturday, 6 April 2013, Modou Nyang <[log in to unmask]> wrote: >> Daffeh, thank you for confirming that you lied, I appreciate that. For that reason I will oblige you and give you the benefit of doubt as to my capacity to discern deception from a far by unmasking your very own attempts at deception right here. >> You said you did not talk about a “tradition of holding congresses” but that of “electing party officials,” Mr. Daffeh, no amount of semantics or word manipulation will save you from your lie that “the UDP is the only party in The Gambia with a tradition of periodically electing party officials.” Is holding a congress in a 13 year time span periodic? By the way, in order to ensure I was not mistaken of the year of the first UDP congress even though I know the time period, I relied on this Daily News report of the 2010 (thanks for correcting me on this one, it was an oversight). Even if your 2008 date stands, my question is still legit. What is periodic in that and what officials were elected? What happened in Jarra Soma in 2010 was a mere shuffling of people around some portfolios. >> I am not interested in all the extra garbage. >> Nyang >> From: UDP United Kingdom <[log in to unmask]> >> To: [log in to unmask] >> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 9:43 AM >> Subject: Re: [G_L] Lie of the Week >> >> Nyang, >> >> You are a manipulated lad who lacks the mental faculty to understand >> the deceptive game Halifa plays on the minds of his disciples and >> party flunkies and for that reason, I will excuse your insults. >> However, in the interest of the truth and for the benefit of the >> readership, I hereby put the records straight. >> >> Firstly, I did not talk about a ‘tradition of holding congresses’ >> which is what you are on about but a ‘tradition of electing party >> officials’. So you have mixed your apples and oranges there. >> >> Secondly, The UDP first congress was held in 1998, not 1997 and the >> second was held in 2010, not 2011. 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