Joe and Kejau No you did NOT loose me; you Just did Not get me. I did not say anywhere in my reply to Suntou that armed struggle is not an option in fact I would argue I am stating the contrary couched in Diplomatic language for even in WAR there is Diplomacy (after all when and if it happens it is within the same House). I would have thought my Touray Kunda fella would back me on this one; any ways to reinforce my point I read somewhere when the question was asked ' How shall freedom be defended?' Answer- 'By arms when it is attacked by arms; by truth when it is attacked by lies; by democratic faith when it is attacked by authoritarian dogma. Always, and in the final act, by dedication and faith.' In one of my submissions on all things jammeh, I did say Gambians are amenable to All Options in pursuit of Our Freedom. But Let US be CLEAR here, we do NOT want a repeat of what happened in July of 1981 in desperation. Shall we keep Our Powder Dry for jammeh We are All in this Together. Respects to Joe; as for kejau you just keep trying me. Thanks, Farang. -----Original Message----- From: kejau <[log in to unmask]> To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]> Sent: Tue, Apr 23, 2013 6:33 am Subject: Re: [>-<] Kukoie Arrested in Dakar Thanks Joe for speaking for me... Sent from Samsung Mobile -------- Original message -------- From: Joe Joe <[log in to unmask]> Date: To: [log in to unmask] Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] Kukoie Arrested in Dakar Farang, you lost me some where. Some diplomat once said that war is an extension of diplomacy. In other wards, you cannot loiter in idle diplomacy to eternity as the misery of a people doubles daily. At some point, the next logical steps must be taken, or we are forever stuck on stupid. Africans watched while Rwandans were massacred; we saw the recent carnage in Mali, Syria, and around the world, all because the world stood and watched. Gambians spent twenty years under this monster, and at the rate we are going, Yaya can do another 30 years on us, easily. Why is an armed struggle not an option if that is the last resort? I see we have danced around this for too long. All these nations that we reside in went to war to be what they are today. Do we know something that they did not know? And so, when Gambians are quick to stampede on any thought that remotely mentions an armed struggle, what do they really want? We certainly do not live in the world of Forest Gump, where life is like a box of chocolate. It is very confusing to have undergone the last 20 years with Yaya with not end in sight and for people to not even think combat is an option. If Gambians have another 30 years to deal with Yaya, they just need to say that, for that is what the current pace suggests. I know some have concerns that if they come outright to call for Yaya's head that may be the end of their visiting Gambia as long as Yaya is there, but we cannot have our cake and eat it too. Yaya has no problem calling for the head of any, why should I loose sleep calling for his head? It is either we are not serious about change or we do not want to confront our reality. Joe > Date: Mon, 22 Apr 2013 14:03:09 -0400 > From: [log in to unmask] > Subject: Re: [G_L] [>-<] Kukoie Arrested in Dakar > To: [log in to unmask] > > Suntou, > I hope with all the desperation we are not encouraging a > repeat of the 1981 reckless accident. Key operational words to put > into consideration- strategy, tact, poise under pressure and fierce > determination to succeed far from Desperation. Thanks. > > Farang. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: suntou touray <[log in to unmask]> > To: GAMBIA-L <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Mon, Apr 22, 2013 6:01 am > Subject: Re: [>-<] Kukoie Arrested in Dakar > > Mr Sanyang, Koukoi's new found fame is indicative of the desperation at > play. I am totally against Senegal extraditing Koukoi to the Gambia. > However, Koukoi cannot be the front for our struggle. With information > coming from his close comrades, it is not encouraging. However, the > lack of progress in tackling the system is reaching the apex of > madness. We will accommodate anybody, be they mad men or chancers. > Apart from Koukoi's human right issue, I am not interested in his > stories. > Thanks > Suntou > > > On Wed, Apr 17, 2013 at 8:03 PM, Edrissa S. Sanyang > <[log in to unmask]> wrote: > Can we set emotions aside of Kukoi issues and look at the Politics in > play here. I was going to ask Kukoi certain questions today through the > outlets he uses to rant his confused political ideology. I have said on > this forum years ago and different print media that Kukoi is Irrelevant > in the Political Discuss of The Gambia. He came back to say I should > not Judge him because I do not know him. The little I know of Kukoi is > enough for me to form an informed opinion about him. Kukoi has shown in > 1981 his Depraved Indifference to Human Life. Kukoi like jammeh has a > lot to Answer to Gambian People, their actions are motivated by narrow > Tribal Interest and personal grievances. Here are two people who have > caused the Two Reckless Accidents in the political transformation of > The Gambia; since, etched in our collective memories. Here is my > questions to Kukoi: > > 1. How is it that kukoi can go in and out of Senegal without being > detained for what he did to the Senegalese soldiers in 1981? > 2. How did he acquire Senegalese ID? > 3. Is Kukoi still a Gambian? > 4. If Kukoi's accomplishes paid their price to The Gambian Society for > what they did in 1981 why should he NOT pay his share of that Price? > > Kukoi might not be in a position to answer these questions today, > but these deserve answers anytime he comes through his current > predicaments. I wish him well for I will like to see him answer to The > Gambia People. > There are more to politics than meets the eye. > > Farang. > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Bolonba <[log in to unmask]> > To: gambiapost <[log in to unmask]> > Sent: Wed, Apr 17, 2013 2:52 pm > Subject: Re: [>-<] Kukoie Arrested in Dakar > > Interesting development. This will demonstrate that, Senegal should be > handle with care. Suntou > > Sent from my iPhone > > On 17 Apr 2013, at 14:58, Matarr Sillah <[log in to unmask]> > wrote: > > > > According to Zikfm in Dakar, Kukoie was arrested at the Leopold Sedar > Senghor Intl airport this morning. > > http://www.seneweb.com/news/S%C3%A9curit%C3%A9/urgent-koukoy-samba-sagna-arrete-a-l-aeroport-de-dakar_n_93445.html > > > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the > Gambia-L Web interface > at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask] > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > > > > -- > www.suntoumana.blogspot.com > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤To > unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L > Web interfaceat: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: > http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-lTo contact > the List Management, please send an e-mail > to:[log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ > To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface > at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html > > To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l > To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: > [log in to unmask] > ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interfaceat: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-lTo contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:[log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interfaceat: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-lTo contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to:[log in to unmask]¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ To unsubscribe/subscribe or view archives of postings, go to the Gambia-L Web interface at: http://listserv.icors.org/archives/gambia-l.html To Search in the Gambia-L archives, go to: http://listserv.icors.org/SCRIPTS/WA-ICORS.EXE?S1=gambia-l To contact the List Management, please send an e-mail to: [log in to unmask] ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤